The Guts and the Glory of the Georgia Guidestones

[MargueriteBee]

I think depopulation can happen naturally. Out of 12 women who live the closest to me, 11 did not have children, and neither did I.

[gripreaper]

Chris Thomas wrote:

The population has been dropping radically. From a high of around 7.4 billion in 1996, the total world population has, at the start of 2011, dropped to around 3.8 billion and is continuing to fall.

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Uh, this does not lend credibility to Chris Thomas. How does he figure this to be true?

Posted by turiya (here)
Get a grip, reaper... You need a good brainwash, imo. Chris says he has been born 'hard-wired' connected with the Akashic.

Ah, OK. Must have missed how the population dropping in HALF in the last fifteen years or so was due to Chris’ ability to read the Akashic. My bad….

I should have also noticed how resources are piling up at all the loading docks and shipping channels, and how corporate inventories have quadrupled in the last couple years too. Maybe I should also notice how half the homes in my neighborhood are empty, how all the homeless shelters are empty, and…

Every western country is having to bring in migrant workers just to sustain the current workforce levels.

Yea, with 350 million people in the US, about 25% of them elderly and another 25% children, that leaves a workforce of 175 million people. Now, since over 91 million eligible workers in the US are NOT working, I guess I can see how one would need to import workers.

But the real clincher that did it for me, while I was waiting in line to fill up my car with biofuel, I noticed all the body bags piled up and down the sidewalks in every town.

Oh, and don’t forget, John Lennon commissioned the Georgia Guidestones…

[ceetee9]

Posted by T Smith (here)
This is the main issue I take with the Georgia Guidestones. Who is the subject? Humanity at large? Or some controlling elite? Perhaps some controlling non-human force? Whom is the object? Are they one and the same? Does the non critical observer simply assume subject and object are one in the same?

This dynamic is very ambiguous. Put another way, who is to effect the action verbs, to maintain, to guide, to unite, to rule, to protect, to let, to avoid, to balance, to prize, to be? Who is to determine what course is even necessary to effect such action? Is this left to subjective interpretation of an ever elusive subject? Which again leads us back to the question, who is the subject?

I don't take issue with the directives by themselves. Who can argue that each one of them is not a noble tenet to help guide our species' to achieve a harmonious and symbiotic relationship with this planet?

I can argue with each one of them and I did. This is exactly how we've been controlled for who knows how long. Nobody in their right mind would buy into statements that come outright and tell you you're a slave, incapable of taking care of your own life and, thus, need to be controlled and this is how we're going to do it--at least, I hope no one would. They HAVE to make statements that appear to be benevolent so they can get you to buy into the messages they are putting forth.

As you stated, who is behind the edicts and what is their ultimate goal? Yes, many of the edicts sound good (and are given no explanatory comment as to how they will be achieved), but given the fact that we've always had rulers who, out of the goodness of their enormous heart, would "show us the way" there is no doubt in my mind that this is just more of the same "trust us, we will take care of you" garbage.

IMHO, we have everything we need to take care of ourselves and our families with little to no need for any leaders to "guide" us onto the correct path. And by that statement I don't mean to imply that each of us can do everything that we need to do to survive in a comfortable and easily sustainable way with no help from others--unless, of course, we wish to regress to our Neanderthal days (and even then it would not be easy). But rather what I mean is, if we choose to take responsibility for ourselves and our species (rather than abdicating our responsibilities to "authority figures" like the majority of society has done for centuries) then we have a very good chance at living very comfortably and in peace and harmony with each other and nature. I doubt there are many who would argue that we haven't arrived there yet because we just haven't found the right leader(s) yet to bring us to the "promised land"--at least, no non-religious person would.

No, it would not necessarily be easy to achieve nirvana as it will take a paradigm shift in our thinking to achieve. But that is only because we've been brainwashed to believe in, and adhere to, everything we've been taught since birth (i.e., to be good little slaves, I mean, citizens) so that we may live the "good" life.

I truly feel sorry for those who believe they don't have the intelligence or ability to think and do for themselves. And, for me, this is why we have the world we currently live in. The majority have bought into the programming and are ready, willing and able to believe more in the "authorities" and "experts" then themselves. This is truly sad and our downfall--IMO.

How can we wake these sleeping masses so we can ALL enjoy a peaceful, harmonious, and beautiful world is the $64,000 dollar question. I wish I had the answer.

[Delight]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
I admire the folks who were behind the Geogia Guidestones !!!

The messages on the stones are in my view wise and come from a place of compassion for the Earth.
It is perhaps only fear of what we project onto these messages and their creators, that is of greatest concern to me.

There is a guts and a glory in my eyes in the message and the maker of the stones.

"1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY - IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

3. UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING NEW LANGUAGE

4. RULE PASSION - FAITH - TRADITION - AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON

5. PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS

6. LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES IN A WORLD COURT

7. AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS OFFICIALS

8. BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH SOCIAL DUTIES

9. PRIZE TRUTH - BEAUTY - LOVE- SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE

10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH - LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE - LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE."

What we see as evil, must first have passed through the veil of our own projections and our own ignorance !

I feel love for what you see in the monument.

I want to start with the last guideline about cancer.
cancer is the eternal manifestation of proliferation without purpose. It is what the "archons" represent. That is why i do not see cancer as a fearsome enemy but calls for communication in the body with all the cells so every aspect regains it's "consciousness". To be a cancer is shamed needlessly because it serves to call forth our PRESENCE as aware cooperative members of life.

Then the guide number 9 moves next to speak of ideals. I feel that is what we miss when we see everything as trivialized. I cannot imagine the emptiness of feeling no ideal to draw us forward. We have to take the symbols back, take the meanings of the "words"and make them full for life to thrive....We have to speak the words!!!! We have to act from the ideals because what is in spirit is spoken and acted out in form. make this count and then the rest will follow.

See how everything gets first legalistic then more grounded as it gets formed. If we are immersed in our own purpose creating with I AM, we behave in relationship.

What if I revealed now...the guidestones are the teaching of the ancient Euchee nomads. They were the medicine men and traders who crossed the world with the original teachings in their packs. These words were whispered, sung and danced by the flower warriors.

Imagine yourself sitting between your grandparents. they are teaching you what they learned had been useful. They say" these are the teachings we have to give you. Now you will write the new wise teachings wen you have a grandchild like we have you." These grandparents love you dearly.

The words are inscribed in Elberton georgia in local hard marble. Iimagine the monument was erected by the hoard of treasure the Yuchees left in the North Georgia foothills. Dahlonega gold paid for that marker. It is a modern ancient archeoastronomy site our very own grandparents left to us.

Mysterious it is! overlighted by the ancient ones: Nûñnë'hï or immortals, the "people who live anywhere". The magic is that it is an ethos stone and will reveal our beliefs to our very own mind. The Yuchi swords cutting to the quick of what matters the warriors see will themselves in the ideas.

One will meditate on the ideas and turn one to another and ask questions. They are guides only but were meant as sincere help.

We cannot go wrong if we find our purpose and feel our devotion to our ideals (and Gaia is intimately feeling of us as we feel)It does not matter that the ideas were twisted up. Our innocence was stolen but now we can have a new communication with the world.

[turiya]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Ah, OK. Must have missed how the population dropping in HALF in the last fifteen years or so was due to Chris’ ability to read the Akashic. My bad….

Apology accepted...



UN Calls for Population Control as Global Birthrates Decline
5/11/11

ASIA:


THAILAND:
Bearing the consequences of population policy in Thailand
December 29th, 2011

UKRAINE:
Ukraine's Population in Rapid Decline
May 11, 2012


JAPAN:
Population suffers biggest annual drop yet
August 28 2013

GERMANY:
Germany Fights Population Drop
August 13, 2013

RUSSIA:


SPAIN:
Population drop in Spain a bad omen for Europe
Apr. 25 2013

CANADA:
Quebec Census Population Numbers Show Continuing Demographic Decline
04/ 4/2012

BRITISH COLOMBIA:
School population to drop for 2013/14
Aug 28, 2013

ROMANIA:
Romania’s population dropped by 539 people in July 2013, a smaller drop than June
September 11, 2013

BOLIVIA:
Where Have All the Indigenous Gone? Bolivia Sees 20 Percent Drop
8/12/13

INDIA:
India’s plummeting birth rates illustrate the coming population decline

LATVIA:
Latvia struggles with 'demographic disaster'
22/05/2012

BULGARIA:
Bulgaria's Population Declines by 164 People a Day
September 15, 2013


PUERTO RICO:
Puerto Rico's population drops as economy wobbles
Sep 10, 2013

ESTONIA:
Estonia's population decline and the supposed accompanying problems

NEW BRUNSWICK
New Brunswick sees population drop

TASMANIA:
State records another population drop
DEC 5 2013

U.S.:
White Share of U.S. Population Drops to Historic Low

CHINA:
China's working-age population drops in 2012
January 19, 2013


EUROPE:
Fertility Decline in Western Europe

TIME MAGAZINE ARTICLE:
Overcrowding? Nah — the World’s Population May Actually Be Declining
January 11 2013

US HONEY BEE PRODUCING COLONIES:



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turiya

[Rosieposie]

Hehe I think a small, kind and intelligent population with a beautiful planet buzzing with life to explore, nurture, create with and exist with is ideal in my mind. I'm sure the world can hold a large population but personally i detest cities and love the idea of free spirited people with a long life span and a truly abundant life. I don't agree with control agendas and believe everyone should be self empowered with respect to natural laws (like not imposing your will on others) so I am not entirely sure about the tone of the guide stones which sort of implies humans need to be controlled instead of guided to self discovery. But hey they have people thinking as I am sure is the purpose of the thread so that can't be a bad thing!

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Bright Garlick (here)
I admire the folks who were behind the Geogia Guidestones !!!

You are admiring deluded masonry in that case.

[Kalamos]

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[observer]

Posted by turiya (here)
For the content of turiya's comment #45, please click-on the forwarding icon.

A look at the depopulation chart found at Wikipedia closely matches the list of countries you have chosen to cite as examples in your comment supporting Chris Thomas' proclamation of a nearly 50 percent ! drop in global population, turiya.

With just a glance at the Wikipedia Chart, one will see the leading cause of decline in these cited countries is due to shifting populations, i.e. emigration, and low immigration. Low birthrates are also cited in that chart. These conclusions are confirmed by clicking on many of the links which you provided in your comment.

These statistics have nothing to do with declining global population. They are region-sensitive data.

Just a glance at the World Population Clock, will clearly indicate an ever-growing population.

It would appear Mr. Thomas' reading comprehension skills are somewhat lacking in his interpretations of these alleged Akashic Records.

[observer]

Since there appear to be some members supporting the idea of population control - eugenics by any other name - I nominate all those in favor of depopulating the planet as guardians of the "depopulation switch".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PVhE3Muh3co

Who gets to choose ?

[OnyxKnight]

I agree with observer. Those who want less population, and support that ridiculous objective - have one kid. Better yet, have no kids. Show how much you want that. Otherwise you'd be just hypocrites with spare time to rant on an idea you do not comprehend.

[thunder24]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
I agree with observer. Those who want less population, and support that ridiculous objective - have one kid. Better yet, have no kids. Show how much you want that. Otherwise you'd be just hypocrites with spare time to rant on an idea you do not comprehend.

or they could just quit breathing, to help the rest of us out...

[turiya]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by turiya (here)
For the content of turiya's comment #45, please click-on the forwarding icon.

A look at the depopulation chart found at Wikipedia closely matches the list of countries you have chosen to cite as examples in your comment supporting Chris Thomas' proclamation of a nearly 50 percent ! drop in global population, turiya.

With just a glance at the Wikipedia Chart, one will see the leading cause of decline in these cited countries is due to shifting populations, i.e. emigration, and low immigration. Low birthrates are also cited in that chart. These conclusions are confirmed by clicking on many of the links which you provided in your comment.

These statistics have nothing to do with declining global population. They are region-sensitive data.

Just a glance at the World Population Clock, will clearly indicate an ever-growing population.

It would appear Mr. Thomas' reading comprehension skills are somewhat lacking in his interpretations of these alleged Akashic Records.

Thanks for your comment, Observer.
I find it quite amusing when I find so many shout out & lambaste the PTB conspirators for attempting to promote a eugenics agenda & then turn around and use their very own tools that are used (in this case a computer generated World Population Clock) to brainwash the unthinking public masses to show just how the world is so overpopulated.

In an unconscious state, one will more than likely be acting as an agent of those they are attempting to appear to fight against.

Cheers - turiya

P.S. A Gary Null trailer...

DEATH BY MEDICINE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CPNDL4M4qC4

[Robin]

This post is directed towards specifically onawah and turiya or anybody else who follow Chris Thomas. I'd love to hear everybody's input on this, however:

I know about the thread on Chris Thomas. I check in on the thread when it is updated out of curiosity and to keep an open mind...though I do not take his words into much consideration as fact. I notice that those who frequently comment in his thread bring his revelations and Akashic readings into other threads...which I welcome and appreciate. But we should be careful.

I just want to reiterate that we all should not reach final conclusions from anybody, but rather look at what they say and see if we can discern anything relevant and apply it to the jigsaw puzzle of truth.

I think that those who read the Akashic records--or claim to read the Akashic records--should be reviewed and analyzed differently from, say, contactees such as Simon Parkes and researchers such as Zecharia Sitchin. I say this because Sitchin transcribed the Sumerian tablets from an objective standpoint, though may have embellished the story too. Simon, and other contactees provide subjective experiences and we must take their word...it can be rather easy to discern whether somebody is fabricating a contactee story, in my opinion.

But the Akashic records...oh my. There are so many people who claim to be able to read the Akashic records...and perhaps they all do! I think the best, most concise definition of the Akashic Records is from this website. The Akashic records are...

an energetic imprint of every thought, action, emotion, and experience that has ever occurred in time and space.

Looking at this definition, the Akashic records are everything that was, is, and will be. Quantum physics has a remarkable amount of evidence to suggest that the universe is infinite. There are an infinite amount of timelines an individual can go on, and likewise, humanity can go on.

That being said, lets bring up Chris Thomas and Andrew Bartzis. Chris Thomas claims that Bartzis is incorrect. Well...why can't Chris Thomas be incorrect? Resonating with information does not mean something is true!

To be honest, I think that they can both be right and wrong. And why not? I would assume that tapping into the Akashic records is a very difficult thing to do that may lead to some wrong turns and misunderstanding to those who do not possess the right faculties of the mind to read them.

It could be that:

• They are both correct giving the infinity of the universe. Both Chris and Andrew are tapping into the Akashic records and seeing two different timelines of time/space and space/time relating to Earth and humanity.
• Both are purposely misguided by entities.
• Both are misguided out of naivety.
• Both have some parts right and some parts wrong.

To summarize my point, I think that the Akashic records can be read from many angles and directions given the infinite nature of the multi-universe we are part of. It is possibly to tap into different timelines in points of time and space.

Perhaps Chris Thomas is looking at a different timeline than we are currently on now....which may explain his claim that Earth is inhabited by 3-4 billion humans. In this case...he would be incorrect, though unknowingly and justifiably.



p.s. I also posted this comment on the thread: How The Anunnaki Prevent Disclosure

[OnyxKnight]

One needs to know what timeline he/she is reviewing and commenting on, because if everybody assumes one person being right about their time spent on Akashic Records readings, and then another fella appears with a different story, conflict situations happen. The larger public loses the most for it. Conflicting stories don't help. They just make people less likely to believe any kind of story, and in sense, make desired negative impact on disclosure and awareness.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
One needs to know what timeline he/she is reviewing and commenting on, because if everybody assumes one person being right about their time spent on Akashic Records readings, and then another fella appears with a different story, conflict situations happen. The larger public loses the most for it. Conflicting stories don't help. They just make people less likely to believe any kind of story, and in sense, make desired negative impact on disclosure and awareness.

heheh...

sorry dude so many are trying to paint a bleak picture ahead, but maybe it is the brush if positive yang is stronger than the negative, the future looks incredibly bright, and if all I hold is a brush for a brilliant future for this world...

none of they neysayers can paint a picture we can't paint over.

I invite all who have a picture needing repainting, we are the gifted, we paint deserts green when it is important.

We have gathered to change this world, it is time, and it is us...

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I invite all who have a picture needing repainting, we are the gifted, we paint deserts green when it is important.

See, there's this awesome genetically modified bacterium (not the bad GM stuff), that can munch on sand grains and produce humus as a byproduct that an also be used for ...


Nevermind.



I'll save this for some random post in Futuretalk.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so this humus created by sand becomes nutrients so a desert can become a green crop productive area...

I like it...

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
so this humus created by sand becomes nutrients so a desert can become a green crop productive area...

I like it...

You got the basic, gist of the idea . That could be our "brush".

[Robin]

Posted by turiya (here)
Chris Thomas wrote:

The population has been dropping radically.
From a high of around 7.4 billion in 1996, the total world population has, at the start of 2011, dropped to around 3.8 billion and is continuing to fall. Yet, despite a virtual halving of the world's population, most have not noticed and/or even continue to believe that we have a rising population.
Synthesis by Chris Thomas (page 136)

turiya

Hi turiya,

I think that the real population of humans on Earth would be rather difficult to fabricate and keep secret, but I will still keep an open mind about it.

My only issue with Chris Thomas's claim is that he seems to be the only person to make the claim. Conspiracy theories are normally backed by people from different backgrounds who all come to the same conclusion independently. If the theory is not backed up by many people, especially people who specialize in the area of interest, then it should not be stated as fact.

Why have there not been others to make this claim of a smaller human population size? There are tons of scientists, sociologists, and other researchers who specifically tackle issues such as human population. There are even many amateur researchers who look into these matters objectively and report it to the public at large.

Why hasn't anybody else made this claim? Or am I missing something...?