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    I am interested in learning more about what Chris Thomas has to say, but not so much what you have to say, Turiya, particularly when you set yourself up as an authority, a superior person who knows what another's path should be at any given time.
    I respectfully suggest that if you would like more participation in this thread, you curtail telling any of us what you think you know about us, and just continue reporting what Chris Thomas has to say.
    Many threads/members on Avalon have gone by the wayside with that kind of behavior.
    I thought that CT's information was the point of this thread, in any case, or was I wrong about that?
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    I am interested in learning more about what Chris Thomas has to say, but not so much what you have to say, Turiya, particularly when you set yourself up as an authority, a superior person who knows what another's path should be at any given time.
    This is your interpretation, onawah.
    From the beginning with you, onawah, I have suggested to you to obtain Chris Thomas' material for yourself. I suggested this because I sensed then where this would eventually end up, imo.
    I will again repeat what I said in Post #164:
    "Consider obtaining this information yourself, then you would not have to rely on a third person's interpretation, you would have the information yourself - Not having to depend on another...."
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    I respectfully suggest that if you would like more participation in this thread, you curtail telling any of us what you think you know about us, and just continue reporting what Chris Thomas has to say. Many threads/members on Avalon have gone by the wayside with that kind of behavior. I thought that CT's information was the point of this thread, in any case, or was I wrong about that?
    I will take your remarks to me as another "bump" for the thread. Thank you for that.

    It is nice to know you appreciate the information that Chris Thomas has provided for those that have an interest in such things. Now, consider buying at least one of Chris' books. If you have listened attentively to any of the interviews, then you know the man is not a wealthy man. He is not making "tons" of wealth off of his efforts to report what he has found from his research of the Akashic (as Observer has alleged). He has, in fact, opened himself up as a target & has received several death threats.

    Oh, yeah, speaking of Observer... I want to thank you for your attempts on enticing him to come on this thread in an attempt to create argument & conflict over Chris' material. It was duly noted.

    I knew quite well what I was getting into when I posted Chris' material here. Most of the Avalon community here, imo, has drunk much from that Zecharia Sitchin/Annunaki/Nibiru/Gold-mining Koolaid punchbowl, to the point where many can't see straight, imo. And it was obvious to me that many were going to be quite upset with the material available on this thread. So, onawah, your attack is nothing that was unexpected.

    onawah wrote:
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    ...just continue reporting what Chris Thomas has to say...
    Certainly I will keep posting Chris' material as it comes up on the internet. But it won't because of your insistence that I do so, onawah.

    I have pointed out to you in Post #205, onawah, by saying:
    "Chris Thomas' most central message here is found in the 'Give-Away'. It is a method of cleansing one's own body-mind of emotional garbage that causes blockages, dis-ease & obscures one's ability to clearly see, feel & access the truth for oneself."
    onawah wrote:
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    "I've been cleaning house" since I was in my 20s and I'm in my 60s now..."
    You say this as to imply that you already have done your homework, onawah. And, it appears that you were a bit upset that I would suggest that it is something that is a needed thing to be done (by you).

    Well, I suggest that you take another look, onawah.
    Because, you just missed a great opportunity to do & feel the power of doing an authentic "Give-Away" for yourself. If there was something you had disliked in any of my comment(s) back to you. Then, you just have missed a great opportunity to do what Chris Thomas has suggested people do. The Give-Away... to go into your own space and blow off pent-up emotions in a way that cleanses the body-mind mechanism. Chris suggests using pencils & newsprint to get out the emotional garbage. He doesn't suggest going on a Project Avalon forum and blow it out in a written form that can be read back... and most certainly you have probably read back what you have written several times over by now.

    Obviously, You missed a great opportunity, onawah... plain & simple.
    You could have done much better than that, imo.

    As I suggested before from Post #140...
    Take it from the redneck in the video below... find a place, a space to go and really give it away! Give-it away as totally & as completely as possible. Pull out all the stops and blow it out in a way that others will not be effected by it, blow it out in a way that others don't have to hear about it. Do it in a way that people will not have to read about it. Blow it out in a way that leaves you absolutely clean, emptied of all, every last bit of the emotional garbage that lies within, within the body, within the subconscious.

    Chris Thomas suggests writing your unresolved issues out, using a pencil & old newspaper (emotions that are held within the body-mind mechanism) as a way of "clearing out" the clutter that is contained within. Pencil & old newspaper, because then, whatever was written out, cannot be read back, or re-ingested back within. There are stronger methods of doing this. Especially for people that are holding onto alot for a long time, like many years of suppression & repression... that have it built-up inside, pent-up within.

    I remember a video that offered a way of doing this in a more physically expressive manner. I think it is important, for many, to find ways of vocalizing, especially, anger that is pent-up inside the body & subconscious part of the mind. Take the following redneck rant as a method that could be quite useful. The idea is to clean-out the emotional crap without affecting others, or injuring oneself & others while doing so.

    This can be viewed as a very effective way of preparing oneself for receiving the entire soul to enter one's physical body. Destroy anything, that has little or no value (note: In the laundry room scene, the Redneck destroys a broken "made-in China" transistor radio), do it in a private setting. This kind of thing can be made into a meditation... making sure to allow for a period afterwards (15 minutes or so) to sit & connect with the silence that is left behind that will come in the wake of expressing one's fury.

    And, the best part is when he goes to the laundry room...


    Your message tells me that there is still quite a bit that is laying in the "basement" of that house. The "basement" of the house means the subconscious mind. That is just my opinion.

    And, If you are again disturbed by what I have just now written, here, then use it as an opportunity to do the "Give Away". Don't miss the opportunity again.

    The opportunity is constantly presenting itself daily to everyone that lives in this world. But most choose to blow their emotional garbage out on other people - their family members, their neighbors, the people they work with. All this does is that people keep passing their emotional crap onto others, and those people will end up passing what they have just collected & blow it onto still more other people. As if this is a way the world would become a better place? Most certainly Not! - The buck can stop with you & me & anybody else that chooses to be responsible & wants to make this a better world. Simply being responsible, to oneself, or to others within a community that one lives in. Just be responsible - that is Chris' message, as well.

    If you don't like what someone is saying, then be more responsible with yourself. Passing on pent-up emotions onto others is not being responsible. And if you really had a "clean house" then you would understand that you wouldn't be effected by what others are saying. Because, if you really "know" who you are, then it really doesn't matter what others think about you.
    If you really know who you are, then that should be enough unto oneself. Depending on what others "think" about you is ludicrous.

    If you are hurt by what others say, if you are angered by what another says... then, its obvious - you don't know who you are. You know who you are according to what others think about you. And, is that anyway to live a life?

    Best regards - turiya
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    #22: I have posted on the thread regarding Clark’s Research. It is posted below:

    A cross-post from another thread: An Update On Our Evolution by Chris Thomas
    I find this interview, along with the recent "Annunaki in the Nevada Desert Conference", and the many Jeff Rense recent interviews with Preston James, Jim Marrs, Michael Cremo & others, including the recent Gordon Duff article (Chinese allied w/ aliens) & Kerry Cassidy's recent Shell Game blog article, not to forget to mention the recent Pattie Brassard so-called whistle-blow, and probably countless of others that I haven't heard about yet - really how much Zecharia Sitchin/Annunaki/Nibiru/Gold Mining Koolaid has been ingested out there. I simply find it amazing how glazed over much of the population - those that think they are awake & aware, AND many who identify themselves as 'scientists' - have gone completely head over heels regarding this particular subject matter. Is one's own life really that boring, or is it all due to the resultant effects of so much fluoride in the drinking water?

    It is truly Unbelievable.
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    Chris Thomas writes:
    "The purpose of looking at these issues discussed with this chapter is to point out that we are being deliberately misled into believing events that are totally untrue. These deliberate lies are being made to distract us from our true purpose and fulfilling our true potential.

    There are many reasons for these lies (see Poject Human Extinction), but what is important to remember is that if you have chosen to undergo our current shift in consciousness then what you need to do for yourself is paramount, otherwise, you will get left behind.

    This means ignoring what is happening in the world, to a greater extent, as the energies for change are exposing all of the corruption and lies that have underlain our society for centuries. As we progress through the coming year(s), the world is going to become much worse - try not to become distracted from you true purpose."

    Source: Synthesis by Chris Thomas (pages 115-116).
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    I just re-read over this and started digging. When you get to the point that you start referencing material in your own thread, you know you have a long thread. Have you noticed how much this puppy has grown? Good common sense...

    BTW, it's not an either/or thing...it's boring/distracted lives and fluoridated water.

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    Devas are nature spirits that tend the plants kingdom.
    At least, that's what they call them at Findhorn
    See:
    http://www.recreatingeden.com/index....=04&episode=53

    I can sense energies, but I'm not that visual.

    I don't think there's anything more important than mankind learning to live in harmony with Nature, and recognizing the Earth as our Mother.
    I used to feel we were going to have to just forgo all the technology to get to that point, but it seems other civilizations have learned to have both, and perhaps that is our destiny too.
    If it weren't for the fact that apparently we have to go that way to protect ourselves from ET incursions, personally, I wouldn't mind going back to a more primitive kind of lifestyle.
    It seems to be a question of finding the balance so Nature and technology can coexist.
    But we have to get the whole planet on the same page somehow.
    I followed your link, Onawah, but it says it is parked with GoDaddy. Devas sound a lot like Faeries.

    I'm the hyper-sensitive type, picking up and absorbing other peoples' feelings/moods. I had a lot of trouble as a child, carrying around my parents issues, unable to understand what was happening to me or clear out their accumulated garbage.

    I agree with the nature/technology balance comment but, I also recognize that, if our technology, such as it is, harms or hurts the Earth, it needs to be altered or discontinued. I am curious, however, about your "ET incursions" comment. Are you afraid of another invasion like CT's Velon (quiet time travel & channeling disinformation) or, perhaps, a hostile, in-your-face overt invasion? Do you not believe CT's explanation that the other races are benevolent?

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It would be interesting to do some cross referencing between this thread and Observer's thread at:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...773#post763773
    Well, that did not turn out positive. Perhaps crossing threads is okay for independent, specific reference, germane to the conversation...not so good to tangle up two different conversations (I should have known better but, I participated, as well; mea culpa).

    I've never sat down and actually read Sitchin's books but, I have heard many, many, interviews, over the years, on C2C AM regarding the material...way before I ever stumbled across Chris's views. There's always been something about the Annunaki story that didn't sit well with me (I was actually aware of the story before I even knew who Sitchin was). I also found it interesting that the people who believed the story/Sitchin's material were obsessed with it...to the point of making it very similar to a religion. That also didn't sit well with me. There's a reason why Chris is/was so reluctant to talk about Jesus in his interviews (I really hope he covers Jesus more thoroughly in one or more of his books...gotta get those). He stated that he didn't want to go there and that he got into a lot of trouble for discussing it.

    People do not like their "faiths" messed with. The Annunaki story is a "faith", not unlike Christianity or Judaism. A god is a god is a god...what/who shall we worship today? The folks in the Annunaki threads might as well be discussing Jesus.

    I recently saw a post on Facebook from a bunch of Hindus talking about how Jesus was a "blown-out-of-proportion" story that the Vatican created. You would not believe the vitriol. Were they right? Is the Jesus story made up by the Vatican to "control" people with religion? That is a topic for another thread but, you can bet your hiney that I won't visit a Jesus thread and pose those questions. Ever seen Linus when his blanket was stolen by Snoopy?

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    I have not been relying on your interpretation of anything, Turiya, I have only been availing myself of the opportunity to read some of the CT info as it has been copied or linked to on the thread by you and Herbert, for which I have expressed my appreciation, and collating, comparing, contrasting, and deciding for myself what I think is likely.
    No different than most Avalonains are doing, though some are convinced that one particular source is right and/or only they themselves are right.
    I keep an open mind, though I have opinions like anyone else.

    As I stated before, I do not have the funds to purchase books at this time. I am a single disabled woman living on Social Security Disability and from month to month, I can barely keep food on the table and pay my electric bills.
    You may have noticed that many people in this economy are in the same position.
    One of the services that Avalonians have kindly performed for others is providing information in such a way so that those who cannot buy books will still have access to information that may be important in understanding some of the non-mainstream information that we are focusing on here.

    I certainly can appreciate that CT is not a wealthy man.
    But Avalon was not created to advertise books, and if that is the true mission of this thread, then it may well become an issue for the Mods to address.
    If CT is interested in getting his information out there more for a higher purpose, even to people who cannot afford to buy expensive books, then perhaps he might consider joining Avalon and starting a thread for members only, like Simon Parkes has done.
    In fact, Simon might be very helpful in giving him some tips on how to protect himself, as Simon has also suffered attacks, and had threats on his life, and yet he is very generously offering his time to help and answer questions from Avalonians without any remuneration.

    As regarding Observer, your accusation is simply wrong.
    I had no intention of enticing anyone to do anything.
    I was just excited that there was new information from CT ( as well as from Simon) on the subject of the Annunaki, and wanted other members to be aware of that.
    And I thought that anyone interested in the subject of the Annunaki, as Observer and readers of his thread seem to be, then they might be interested in the new info from CT being presented in your thread.
    You seem to be rather paranoid on this subject, as if there is some kind of conspiracy.
    You also assume that I have taken all of Sitchin's work as gospel, which is also not the case, as I have stated before, though I cannot speak for anyone else regarding that.
    Perhaps others have-- I don't really know; I don't belong to any “camps” in this regard.
    Nor does it mean that if I present questions as to what CT's explanations might be about the Annunaki, or what physical proof there might be to back them up, that I am questioning CT's credibility.
    I am simply interested in knowing what evidence there is, what theories there are, and what conclusions may logically be drawn.
    Your remarks about people leading distracted lives with numbed thinking due to fluoridated water are most discourteous, if you are directing that at Avalonians.
    Avalonians for the most part are very focused on learning the truth, and quite aware of the dangers of fluoride and other toxins we are being bombarded with.
    If you think so poorly of Avalonians, then why are even posting here?

    I certainly never insisted that you continue to post CT's info here.
    I did request that you continue to do so, and several times expressed my interest and appreciation for you doing so, which you apparently failed to notice.
    You attribute a lot of attitudes and intentions to me that simply do not exist.
    I have never been upset about anything CT has written; on the contrary, I am quite interested.
    Whether I agree or not remains to be seen, as I keep an open mind and my impressions often change on any given topic as I absorb new information, otherwise, no learning could take place.
    I'm just not interested in your personal opinions about me, which, in the main, have been quite inaccurate, and your expression of them have seemed to be very condescending and superior.
    Furthermore, where I am on my personal path is absolutely none of your business.
    I doubt very much that you are so clairvoyant that you really know anything about that subject, though you seem to have a lot of opinions and judgments about it.
    But it is pretty much universally agreed that giving unsolicited advice to others is not a good idea, and it seems quite appropriate to point that out.
    I think everyone will agree that no one here is done with doing their homework or "cleaning house", Turiya, and that includes you, so why even get into making such accusations?

    I was not hurt by any of your rather condescending remarks, and, contrary to what you assume, I am quite interested in trying out the technique that CT recommends.
    The technique reminds me of the one that Castenada's teacher Don Juan Matus called "erasing personal history", which I have practiced and found to be effective.

    If I haven't done so as yet, and if that is unacceptable to you and not in keeping with the timetable you seem to have created for me, then I suggest you stop creating standards and schedules for other people to live up to.

    What I do object to is the way that you seem to be trying to take a ride on CT's coattails to attract attention to yourself, to your opinions and observations, as if the advice and information from CT needs your repeating of it or your interpretation of it, as if you are some kind of clearing house, and everything has to be filtered through you as far as this info is concerned.
    It looks to me like you are just shooting yourself in the foot by continuing to put all your opinions and observations in this thread, when what most people will be coming here for, I would think, is simply to read CT's info and decide for themselves what to think about it.
    And I think you are doing a disservice to the information in that regard.
    I don't think his info needs your protection at all—it stands alone quite well on its own; whether right or wrong, I think he has done his best to write down the truth as he sees it, and that requires no defense.

    Now as far as I am concerned, we've taken up quite a lot of space on this thread that might have been put to much better use if more of CT's information had been recorded here instead, and so I am done with this conversation.


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    I am interested in learning more about what Chris Thomas has to say, but not so much what you have to say, Turiya, particularly when you set yourself up as an authority, a superior person who knows what another's path should be at any given time.
    This is your interpretation, onawah.
    From the beginning with you, onawah, I have suggested to you to obtain Chris Thomas' material for yourself. I suggested this because I sensed then where this would eventually end up, imo.
    I will again repeat what I said in Post #164:
    "Consider obtaining this information yourself, then you would not have to rely on a third person's interpretation, you would have the information yourself - Not having to depend on another...."
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I respectfully suggest that if you would like more participation in this thread, you curtail telling any of us what you think you know about us, and just continue reporting what Chris Thomas has to say. Many threads/members on Avalon have gone by the wayside with that kind of behavior. I thought that CT's information was the point of this thread, in any case, or was I wrong about that?
    I will take your remarks to me as another "bump" for the thread. Thank you for that.

    It is nice to know you appreciate the information that Chris Thomas has provided for those that have an interest in such things. Now, consider buying at least one of Chris' books. If you have listened attentively to any of the interviews, then you know the man is not a wealthy man. He is not making "tons" of wealth off of his efforts to report what he has found from his research of the Akashic (as Observer has alleged). He has, in fact, opened himself up as a target & has received several death threats.

    Oh, yeah, speaking of Observer... I want to thank you for your attempts on enticing him to come on this thread in an attempt to create argument & conflict over Chris' material. It was duly noted.

    I knew quite well what I was getting into when I posted Chris' material here. Most of the Avalon community here, imo, has drunk much from that Zecharia Sitchin/Annunaki/Nibiru/Gold-mining Koolaid punchbowl, to the point where many can't see straight, imo. And it was obvious to me that many were going to be quite upset with the material available on this thread. So, onawah, your attack is nothing that was unexpected.

    onawah wrote:
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    ...just continue reporting what Chris Thomas has to say...
    Certainly I will keep posting Chris' material as it comes up on the internet. But it won't because of your insistence that I do so, onawah.

    I have pointed out to you in Post #205, onawah, by saying:
    "Chris Thomas' most central message here is found in the 'Give-Away'. It is a method of cleansing one's own body-mind of emotional garbage that causes blockages, dis-ease & obscures one's ability to clearly see, feel & access the truth for oneself."
    onawah wrote:
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    "I've been cleaning house" since I was in my 20s and I'm in my 60s now..."
    You say this as to imply that you already have done your homework, onawah. And, it appears that you were a bit upset that I would suggest that it is something that is a needed thing to be done (by you).

    Well, I suggest that you take another look, onawah.
    Because, you just missed a great opportunity to do & feel the power of doing an authentic "Give-Away" for yourself. If there was something you had disliked in any of my comment(s) back to you. Then, you just have missed a great opportunity to do what Chris Thomas has suggested people do. The Give-Away... to go into your own space and blow off pent-up emotions in a way that cleanses the body-mind mechanism. Chris suggests using pencils & newsprint to get out the emotional garbage. He doesn't suggest going on a Project Avalon forum and blow it out in a written form that can be read back... and most certainly you have probably read back what you have written several times over by now.

    Obviously, You missed a great opportunity, onawah... plain & simple.
    You could have done much better than that, imo.

    As I suggested before from Post #140...
    Take it from the redneck in the video below... find a place, a space to go and really give it away! Give-it away as totally & as completely as possible. Pull out all the stops and blow it out in a way that others will not be effected by it, blow it out in a way that others don't have to hear about it. Do it in a way that people will not have to read about it. Blow it out in a way that leaves you absolutely clean, emptied of all, every last bit of the emotional garbage that lies within, within the body, within the subconscious.

    Chris Thomas suggests writing your unresolved issues out, using a pencil & old newspaper (emotions that are held within the body-mind mechanism) as a way of "clearing out" the clutter that is contained within. Pencil & old newspaper, because then, whatever was written out, cannot be read back, or re-ingested back within. There are stronger methods of doing this. Especially for people that are holding onto alot for a long time, like many years of suppression & repression... that have it built-up inside, pent-up within.

    I remember a video that offered a way of doing this in a more physically expressive manner. I think it is important, for many, to find ways of vocalizing, especially, anger that is pent-up inside the body & subconscious part of the mind. Take the following redneck rant as a method that could be quite useful. The idea is to clean-out the emotional crap without affecting others, or injuring oneself & others while doing so.

    This can be viewed as a very effective way of preparing oneself for receiving the entire soul to enter one's physical body. Destroy anything, that has little or no value (note: In the laundry room scene, the Redneck destroys a broken "made-in China" transistor radio), do it in a private setting. This kind of thing can be made into a meditation... making sure to allow for a period afterwards (15 minutes or so) to sit & connect with the silence that is left behind that will come in the wake of expressing one's fury.

    And, the best part is when he goes to the laundry room...


    Your message tells me that there is still quite a bit that is laying in the "basement" of that house. The "basement" of the house means the subconscious mind. That is just my opinion.

    And, If you are again disturbed by what I have just now written, here, then use it as an opportunity to do the "Give Away". Don't miss the opportunity again.

    The opportunity is constantly presenting itself daily to everyone that lives in this world. But most choose to blow their emotional garbage out on other people - their family members, their neighbors, the people they work with. All this does is that people keep passing their emotional crap onto others, and those people will end up passing what they have just collected & blow it onto still more other people. As if this is a way the world would become a better place? Most certainly Not! - The buck can stop with you & me & anybody else that chooses to be responsible & wants to make this a better world. Simply being responsible, to oneself, or to others within a community that one lives in. Just be responsible - that is Chris' message, as well.

    If you don't like what someone is saying, then be more responsible with yourself. Passing on pent-up emotions onto others is not being responsible. And if you really had a "clean house" then you would understand that you wouldn't be effected by what others are saying. Because, if you really "know" who you are, then it really doesn't matter what others think about you.
    If you really know who you are, then that should be enough unto oneself. Depending on what others "think" about you is ludicrous.

    If you are hurt by what others say, if you are angered by what another says... then, its obvious - you don't know who you are. You know who you are according to what others think about you. And, is that anyway to live a life?

    Best regards - turiya
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    Sorry about that bad link. To read about Findhorn and devas, fairies, etc. see:
    http://www.findhorn.org/aboutus/visi.../#.UqL2kdJDsoM
    I agree, technology should be safe for the whole planet, and not wasteful of natural resources.

    I think there are both benevolent and aggressive ET races.
    It seems that the benevolent ones are only willing to go so far to protect us from the latter, however, and so we are probably going to have to learn how to protect ourselves.
    Not so much by attacking, engaging in space wars, etc.,, but by knowing how to defend ourselves.
    I think if we just learn how to live harmoniously with our planet and all her life forms, we will have gone a long way toward that goal.
    That alone will make us tremendously powerful, maybe so powerful that we wouldn't need weapons.
    I think we have to start with ourselves, with our personal evolution; we are more powerful than we know.
    That is probably the biggest lesson in all for us to learn from this mess we are in right now with the aggressive ET s.


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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Devas are nature spirits that tend the plants kingdom.
    At least, that's what they call them at Findhorn
    See:
    http://www.recreatingeden.com/index....=04&episode=53

    I can sense energies, but I'm not that visual.

    I don't think there's anything more important than mankind learning to live in harmony with Nature, and recognizing the Earth as our Mother.
    I used to feel we were going to have to just forgo all the technology to get to that point, but it seems other civilizations have learned to have both, and perhaps that is our destiny too.
    If it weren't for the fact that apparently we have to go that way to protect ourselves from ET incursions, personally, I wouldn't mind going back to a more primitive kind of lifestyle.
    It seems to be a question of finding the balance so Nature and technology can coexist.
    But we have to get the whole planet on the same page somehow.
    I followed your link, Onawah, but it says it is parked with GoDaddy. Devas sound a lot like Faeries.

    I'm the hyper-sensitive type, picking up and absorbing other peoples' feelings/moods. I had a lot of trouble as a child, carrying around my parents issues, unable to understand what was happening to me or clear out their accumulated garbage.

    I agree with the nature/technology balance comment but, I also recognize that, if our technology, such as it is, harms or hurts the Earth, it needs to be altered or discontinued. I am curious, however, about your "ET incursions" comment. Are you afraid of another invasion like CT's Velon (quiet time travel & channeling disinformation) or, perhaps, a hostile, in-your-face overt invasion? Do you not believe CT's explanation that the other races are benevolent?

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    The Near Future

    Chris Thomas wrote:

    This is the most likely scenario in the short term:
    - There will be a great deal of trauma as the old regimes collapse.
    - There will be a large number of deaths as those who have chosen not to stay fulfill those choices.
    - There will be disruption to how we currently live our lives as those who try to maintain the past are forced into letting go.
    - There will be confusion & fear.
    Despite all of this, there will be many millions of people who complete the process of re-merging the soul back into the body.
    Excerpt: Synthesis by Chris Thomas (page 137)
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    "Understand, all civilizations which are ‘thinking based’ – constantly driving you to think, think, think, think, think, and feels that thought is equal to productivity, is going to just disappear into depression.

    You need to understand it very clearly: All the civilizations & societies which goes on emphasizing on thinking, where ‘thinking’ is celebrated, where ‘thinking’ is equated to productivity, where thinking is equated to being alive. Even for entertainment ‘thinking’ is important. Thinking becomes an entertainment…

    So, all ‘thinking based’ civilizations is going to hit one of the worst depressions. It means it will be “doomsday” for them. All civilizations which prepares human beings to be comfortable with the ‘non-thinking’ zone, that ‘being’ zone, the ‘unclutched’ zone, [non attachment zone], for them its going to be the greatest celebration & liberation.

    Be comfortable with that less thought/more action space – that is all you need, this is the greatest preparation, best preparation for the coming years.

    All thinking based civilizations & societies will face terrible depression. Because they won’t know what to do when automatically the number of thoughts is reducing on their nervous system. They think they are becoming inefficient & depressed. They are going to use all kinds of medicines, and alcohol & addictive drugs & everything. And going to get into self-destruction, destroying their body & mind.

    All thinking-based civilizations are predicting doomsday. All being-based civilizations are predicting enlightenment. Actually, both are true. If you are a thought-based person, unable to catch up with the reality of less thoughts, it is going to be “doomsday”… heavy depression & there’s going to be huge mass suicides."
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    Less thoughts seems to me like enlightenment in ignorance.

    "Ignorance is bliss".

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    There is a thoughtless awareness where what is necessary is known without concepts, belief systems and programming, everything is seen as fresh alive and in its true state-- there is no egoic judgement, yet that which is life supporting is obvious.
    Right action happen effortlessly.
    That is, I suspect, the next stage of evolution.
    The enlightened are the fore runners of this state.

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    Quote Less thoughts seems to me like enlightenment in ignorance.
    "Ignorance is bliss".
    On the contrary, with more thoughts, the thicker is the veil that lay between true reality & dreamstate. And, less available it is to access the source of one's intelligence. With 'no-thought' [Zen people call it state of 'No-Mind'], there is only pure conscious awareness - meaning, there are no waves of thought(s) to obscure experiencing of truth.

    hint: intellect & intelligence are polar opposites when it comes to experiencing true reality.

    cheers turiya
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    And most seemed to find the woman was just not at all credible with her claim that she was an Reptilian Hybrid Human (Good job Avalonians). As, this was supported by Chris in the recent Robert Stanley interview, in which Chris Thomas explains that an Reptilian Hybrid Human being is simply not possible.

    Chris Thomas explains in the Robert Stanley interview:
    None of the other races interbreed with each other, as it were. And its physically impossible for them to interbreed with people on Earth. Because… the Seven Semi-Physical races would be the only ones that could ever possibly do that. And, they don’t even reproduce because they are immortal. So they don’t reproduce, at least not in the same way that we do, anyway. And therefore, how could you create an Alien Hybrid – an Alien Human Hybrid? You can't!
    Source: Robert Stanley / Chris Thomas interview Post #112


    posted by turiya

    edit:After reviewing another interview Erin Green Hicks had with
    Erica Goetsch on The Galactic Connection Radio which can be found HERE, I now find she specifically states that she is a Reptilian Hybrid Human, as opposed to what I originally posted (An Annunaki Human Hybrid). And as Chris Thomas has stated in that Robert Stanley Interview that there are no Reptilian Races that exist within this Universe according to what he sees in the Akashic. There is a Reptilian race that exists in another universe next to ours which is in process of collapsing. Fourteen Faction energies have a Reptilian quality, so many human beings were effected by that energy, but as far as an actual Reptilian race - No!
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    I appreciate the transcriptions and collations,the additional questions and the answers.
    It is possible to disbelieve everything CT says is true and still find it exactly the way it needs to read for us as a story. I am also reminded of a book by Bob Frissell called "Nothing in this book is true but it is exactly the way things are"....

    This paradox of reception and transmission of information is to hold the impossible in one's mind. What is the truth in stories? I am pretty sure that the way we read the story is what is true. And what is true is surfacing to be acknowledged.

    I have to admit that the number one reason CT's work cannot be true for me is that his facts include the possibility of victimization as attack. Attack cannot be true when love is all that is....but when we are attached to the belief of victimization, attack is exactly the way things are. There is no separation between "races" as all are one but we split off attributes and that made the whole FALSE story possible.

    We are trying to find truth in stories when the only place the TRUTH lies is beyond all story in being TRUE to Thyself.

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    We are all 'annunaki' hybrids, I'd rather believe genetics, rather than the self-proclaimed true story based on channeling of a random person. The occasional gigantism, extreme paleness, polydactilism (mainly the 6 fingered hand), and the double teeth set, all imply we draw genetics from them.

    And they are extremely long-lived, not immortal. None of the original tribes-people that spawned the legends and creation myths are alive today, for example. The planetary system information has faults in it as well.

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    Greetings Avalonians,

    I sense a dominating reptilian energy and deception in this thread.
    I cannot tell what and how that is my sensing.

    When I feel such energy I leave the game to others.
    I follow with greybread.

    If you sense any of the following:
    • fear
    • domineering
    • patronizing
    • polarization (good against evil)
    • victimization
    • separation
    The information source is not serving you.

    Once with this list, read the bible again.
    Good luck with your path.
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    Quote Posted by FireHorse (here)
    For the content of FireHorse's comment #194, please click-on the forwarding icon.
    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    For the content of turiya's reply #198 to FireHorse's comment, please click-on the forwarding icon.
    I will make only one more statement here, turiya, because you have compelled me to return with the above noted 'chatter' directed at me, and additionally, the snide remarks that I have not referenced in this comment. You are not going to like what I have to say, so I expect you will add me to your reject list, just as you have promised.

    Allow me to first of all state, for the record, that I am a researcher of evidence. I look primarily for objective evidence. I take my effort very seriously, and I am personally offended when someone attacks the conclusions I offer without first looking at the evidence associated to those conclusions.

    The quotes that FireHorse has discovered are accurate, they were made by me. I invite any member to go through the site and review any quote I've made. I also suggest to any member wishing to discredit my research to follow any link (i.e. "do the research") - which I always provide when making a point. These such links, in their combined entirety, represent a path to the "evidence" to which I speak, and to which there is a speculation of doubt in words expressed within this thread.

    Onward to my comment:

    There is no credible evidence that the Akashic Records (*) are anything more than what many call the Astral Plane. Now, one may argue there is a difference, however, I would then suggest for one to show us the proof of this difference. Perhaps a broken fragment of an artifact from antiquity.... an historic reference.... anything one might hold and examine to demonstrate the validity of this claim.

    (*)Contrary to my earlier stipulation not to use that term "Akashic Records", further research has proven your conclusion that the word "Akashic" translates to mean "Record" has very little foundation in the material I have reviewed, such as here. So, with or without your permission, I will continue to use the term "Akashic Records".

    Any individual interpretation of these alleged Akashic Records are a concoction of individuals who have fallen into the trap of listening to their telepathically manipulated thoughts. (a.k.a. channeling - or any other of the myriad of names applied to this phenomenon) I might point-out, "remote viewing" is another among this myriad of names, a term which Mr. Thomas refers to himself as.

    With regard to the Archons, they were not created in modern times on the internet.

    There is record of these Archons dating back to the Nag Hammadi Library, and I could find evidence of reference to them dating back further than that. The Nag Hammadi Library is one of the only remaining shards of evidence left behind by followers of the ancient religion of (True) Gnosticism. The understanding of Archons goes far back into antiquity.

    By the best description, the Archons are soulless biological robots that were created by the Reptoids to do their work. They are hyperdimensional, meaning they have the ability to materialize in-and-out of this particular dimension. Their description in the Nag Hammadi Library leads one to interpret these conclusions. I suggest one should read the material for themselves and make their own conclusions. (Referenced below)

    With regard to Sitchin's work, clearly, if one had reviewed the Gerald Clark interviews that were linked in the OP of my thread, one would have no confusion regarding how Clark's research relates to Sitchin. Gerald Clark draws his conclusions from a myriad of ancient text - beyond the Sumerian Tablets - and his conclusions merely vindicate much of Sitchin's work. No one is maintaining Sitchin's work is flawless, unlike the theme of this thread, where it appears as though the word of Mr. Thomas is the Gospel Truth.

    With regard to what Mr. Thomas is doing, he is reporting on the telepathically implanted thoughts within his own head. There is no specific "Record" to read. He is reading a Field of Infinite Potential, and there would be an infinite number of understandings if everyone were capable of reading these alleged records.

    Everyone would be seeing a totally different reality when collapsing this Field of Infinite Potential by observing, were it not for the fact that this Field of Infinite Potential is heavily manipulated into a commonality which is shared by us all. It is additionally heavily manipulated to express a particular point of view - the Reptoid point of view.

    Another way of expressing the concept of a Field of Infinite Potential, is to call it the Quantum Field. It is the closest understanding from the scientific community that describes what the ancients called the Astral Plane. Individual interpretations of the Quantum Field are specious - at best.

    As an example of how this Quantum Field can be misinterpreted, I draw your attention to a quote you made in another thread:

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Chris Thomas wrote:
    The population has been dropping radically.

    From a high of around 7.4 billion in 1996, the total world population has, at the start of 2011, dropped to around 3.8 billion and is continuing to fall. Yet, despite a virtual halving of the world's population, most have not noticed and/or even continue to believe that we have a rising population.

    Synthesis by Chris Thomas (page 136)
    turiya
    Clearly, any rational individual can see the world population is increasing and is more than a million above 7 billion. I site this as just one example of the confused message one gets from a self-proclaimed psychic, or any psychic, for that matter.

    What Mr. FireHorse has quoted from one of the many comments one might find regarding my experience is accurate. I spent over thirty years of my adult life subscribing to Telepathically Implanted Messages. Many of those years were subscribing to the interpretations of Edgar Cayce, one of the worlds most famous interpreters of the alleged Akashic Records.

    For this reason, I have no desire to waste hours of my precious time researching the work of your Mr. Thomas which, to me, reads like a cheep fiction novel. Because this is the case, I'm certain you will add me to your reject list, if you are a man of your word.

    I have no problem with that, I would simply ask, as I did in my reply #187:

    Quote "To any members interested in the information I can offer from my vast databank on the subject of telepathically implanted thoughts, please refer all future comments or replies directed at me to the following thread:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ent-Disclosure
    ....where I will be happy to debate them using valid trails of evidence.

    Research Resources:

    Jay Weidner - Rise of the Archons:
    http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html

    The Nag Hammadi Library -
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/na...i/contents.htm
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    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    Quote Posted by FireHorse (here)
    For the content of FireHorse's comment #194, please click-on the forwarding icon.
    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    For the content of turiya's reply #198 to FireHorse's comment, please click-on the forwarding icon.
    I will make only one more statement here, turiya, because you have compelled me to return with the above noted 'chatter' directed at me, and additionally, the snide remarks that I have not referenced in this comment. You are not going to like what I have to say, so I expect you will add me to your reject list, just as you have promised.

    Allow me to first of all state, for the record, that I am a researcher of evidence. I look primarily for objective evidence. I take my effort very seriously, and I am personally offended when someone attacks the conclusions I offer without first looking at the evidence associated to those conclusions.

    The quotes that FireHorse has discovered are accurate, they were made by me. I invite any member to go through the site and review any quote I've made. I also suggest to any member wishing to discredit my research to follow any link (i.e. "do the research") - which I always provide when making a point. These such links, in their combined entirety, represent a path to the "evidence" to which I speak, and to which there is a speculation of doubt in words expressed within this thread.

    Onward to my comment:

    There is no credible evidence that the Akashic Records (*) are anything more than what many call the Astral Plane. Now, one may argue there is a difference, however, I would then suggest for one to show us the proof of this difference. Perhaps a broken fragment of an artifact from antiquity.... an historic reference.... anything one might hold and examine to demonstrate the validity of this claim.

    (*)Contrary to my earlier stipulation not to use that term "Akashic Records", further research has proven your conclusion that the word "Akashic" translates to mean "Record" has very little foundation in the material I have reviewed, such as here. So, with or without your permission, I will continue to use the term "Akashic Records".

    Any individual interpretation of these alleged Akashic Records are a concoction of individuals who have fallen into the trap of listening to their telepathically manipulated thoughts. (a.k.a. channeling - or any other of the myriad of names applied to this phenomenon) I might point-out, "remote viewing" is another among this myriad of names, a term which Mr. Thomas refers to himself as.

    With regard to the Archons, they were not created in modern times on the internet.

    There is record of these Archons dating back to the Nag Hammadi Library, and I could find evidence of reference to them dating back further than that. The Nag Hammadi Library is one of the only remaining shards of evidence left behind by followers of the ancient religion of (True) Gnosticism. The understanding of Archons goes far back into antiquity.

    By the best description, the Archons are soulless biological robots that were created by the Reptoids to do their work. They are hyperdimensional, meaning they have the ability to materialize in-and-out of this particular dimension. Their description in the Nag Hammadi Library leads one to interpret these conclusions. I suggest one should read the material for themselves and make their own conclusions. (Referenced below)

    With regard to Sitchin's work, clearly, if one had reviewed the Gerald Clark interviews that were linked in the OP of my thread, one would have no confusion regarding how Clark's research relates to Sitchin. Gerald Clark draws his conclusions from a myriad of ancient text - beyond the Sumerian Tablets - and his conclusions merely vindicate much of Sitchin's work. No one is maintaining Sitchin's work is flawless, unlike the theme of this thread, where it appears as though the word of Mr. Thomas is the Gospel Truth.

    With regard to what Mr. Thomas is doing, he is reporting on the telepathically implanted thoughts within his own head. There is no specific "Record" to read. He is reading a Field of Infinite Potential, and there would be an infinite number of understandings if everyone were capable of reading these alleged records.

    Everyone would be seeing a totally different reality when collapsing this Field of Infinite Potential by observing, were it not for the fact that this Field of Infinite Potential is heavily manipulated into a commonality which is shared by us all. It is additionally heavily manipulated to express a particular point of view - the Reptoid point of view.

    Another way of expressing the concept of a Field of Infinite Potential, is to call it the Quantum Field. It is the closest understanding from the scientific community that describes what the ancients called the Astral Plane. Individual interpretations of the Quantum Field are specious - at best.

    As an example of how this Quantum Field can be misinterpreted, I draw your attention to a quote you made in another thread:

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Chris Thomas wrote:
    The population has been dropping radically.

    From a high of around 7.4 billion in 1996, the total world population has, at the start of 2011, dropped to around 3.8 billion and is continuing to fall. Yet, despite a virtual halving of the world's population, most have not noticed and/or even continue to believe that we have a rising population.

    Synthesis by Chris Thomas (page 136)
    turiya
    Clearly, any rational individual can see the world population is increasing and is more than a million above 7 billion. I site this as just one example of the confused message one gets from a self-proclaimed psychic, or any psychic, for that matter.

    What Mr. FireHorse has quoted from one of the many comments one might find regarding my experience is accurate. I spent over thirty years of my adult life subscribing to Telepathically Implanted Messages. Many of those years were subscribing to the interpretations of Edgar Cayce, one of the worlds most famous interpreters of the alleged Akashic Records.

    For this reason, I have no desire to waste hours of my precious time researching the work of your Mr. Thomas which, to me, reads like a cheep fiction novel. Because this is the case, I'm certain you will add me to your reject list, if you are a man of your word.

    I have no problem with that, I would simply ask, as I did in my reply #187:

    Quote "To any members interested in the information I can offer from my vast databank on the subject of telepathically implanted thoughts, please refer all future comments or replies directed at me to the following thread:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ent-Disclosure
    ....where I will be happy to debate them using valid trails of evidence.

    Research Resources:

    Jay Weidner - Rise of the Archons:
    http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html

    The Nag Hammadi Library -
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/na...i/contents.htm
    Updating your link here, Observer: How The Anunnaki Prevent Disclosure

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Sorry about that bad link. To read about Findhorn and devas, fairies, etc. see:
    http://www.findhorn.org/aboutus/visi.../#.UqL2kdJDsoM
    Thank you for that link. Dorothy's comments about the plants coincide with some things CT has said. Also, I see that "Deva" is Sanskrit just like "Akashic". Very interesting.


    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It seems that the benevolent ones are only willing to go so far to protect us from the latter, however, and so we are probably going to have to learn how to protect ourselves. Not so much by attacking, engaging in space wars, etc.,, but by knowing how to defend ourselves.
    CT mentions that in the Red Ice Radio interview with Henrik. Other races are aware of what the Velon (Annunaki/Hathor/The Other Four) are up to but, are only observing...waiting to see how all of this plays out, I guess. Even Henrik comments to CT, something along the lines of "...gee. thanks a lot. we need some help down here..." It's the free will thing at work. They want us to wake up, remember, own up and clean up our own mess.


    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I think if we just learn how to live harmoniously with our planet and all her life forms, we will have gone a long way toward that goal.
    That alone will make us tremendously powerful, maybe so powerful that we wouldn't need weapons.
    Hey, CT's description of us with full soul integration would make us very powerful, indeed. It's no wonder the Velon want to distract, lie and force. They know what we are capable of and I think they are desperate to stop our evolution at all costs.


    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I think we have to start with ourselves, with our personal evolution; we are more powerful than we know.
    That is probably the biggest lesson in all for us to learn from this mess we are in right now with the aggressive ETs.
    No one else can do it for us. As long as we believe that "outsiders" are going to come in and fix everything, we will continue to wallow in misery.

    Think of it like driving a car...if you are in the driver's seat with the steering wheel in your hands, any attempt to have someone else steer, that isn't in your unique position, can be hazardous to your health and, possibly, that of the interloper.

    ~FireHorse

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    Quote Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
    We are all 'annunaki' hybrids, I'd rather believe genetics, rather than the self-proclaimed true story based on channeling of a random person. The occasional gigantism, extreme paleness, polydactilism (mainly the 6 fingered hand), and the double teeth set, all imply we draw genetics from them.

    And they are extremely long-lived, not immortal. None of the original tribes-people that spawned the legends and creation myths are alive today, for example. The planetary system information has faults in it as well.
    Thank you, OnyxKnight, for the continued "bump" of this thread.
    But from your latest comment, you should be advised that its been suggested that the Koolaid you've been drinking has been spiked with fluoridated water... in which case you should consider cutting yourself off, as each of us is endowed with the principle of the 'Freedom of Choice' that underlies the Universe we presently exist in.

    Obviously, you must have missed the part about Bill Ryan's post whereby he said that according to a fellow researcher - someone that had directly worked with Sitchin - that he [Sitchin] did not actually translate the Sumerian Tablets, but on the contrary, was "channeled" that material by an Annunaki [Velon] entity. And to top it off, he was paid a stipend by the NSA to keep them abreast of that information as it came to him.

    Yeah, that's right. But you will have to do the work yourself in order to find that quote, as its been posted here on this thread more than once - you shouldn't have much trouble finding it. Just lay off that Koolaid, and you eventually should be able to navigate yourself to one of its proper locations.

    However, I do offer this "Cheers" to toast your next glass of Sitchin/Annunaki/Nibiru/Gold-Mining Koolaid that you will probably no doubt decide to consume, despite the forewarning of doing so. (some habits are tough to break)

    So, again, 'Cheers' to you - turiya
    Last edited by turiya; 8th December 2013 at 15:52.

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