Chris Thomas

[OnyxKnight]

turiya, you have thrown that rude "koolaid" statement around way too much, towards way too many people, in absence of actual depth to your arguments, other than quotes from Chris Thomas, and occasionally throwing a quote or two from others.

If you continue, I will report you to the moderation team. I've received infractions for far less myself. If you want to discuss, discuss the topic, not anyone's supposed lack of knowledge of it via snotty comments like that. I'm "bumping" the thread so that people can hear differing views. If you don't like it, you are not obliged to comment, keep doing what you do, and I'll keep doing what I do, everybody satisfied.

While I do have a lot of respect for Bill and his work, I think (and many here share the same opinion) that a lot of the sources he extracts information from are suspicious. Quite a few people have turned out to be "tricky players" in the "game" (that's exactly how they see it). That is not to say that the claim of channeled material through Sitchin is not true, but one has to take in consideration all the available aspects of a certain claim. You have arrived at the conclusion that Sitchin has channeled that material, and therefore the material is invalid, and that is completely fine by me. I do find it weird that you would accept another person's channeled material as valid though, but that is also your right to do so, and completely fine by me. I have arrived at a different conclusion, based not on channeling, or other people's channeling, but by different means. So your Sitchin scam argument here is invalid.

Genetics will always win an argument against channeled material. I'm sorry, but that's not a claim, that's a fact. Maybe an inconvenient one, but there's nothing we can do about that.


This is not how a spiritually enlightened, consciously evolved individual treats fellow discussants. I don't claim to be one, far from that, but I know the difference since I know many other such people.



PS: For your information, just for a fun fact, unlike the USA, where you reside, here in my country the water doesn't get fluoridated . And we don't have 'Koolaid' either.

[Robin]

Posted by turiya (here)
Obviously, you must have missed the part about Bill Ryan's post whereby he said that according to a fellow researcher - someone that had directly worked with Sitchin - that he [Sitchin] did not actually translate the Sumerian Tablets, but on the contrary, was "channeled" that material by an Annunaki [Velon] entity. And to top it off, he was paid a stipend by the NSA to keep them abreast of that information as it came to him.

I really don't want to argue on your own personal thread...but I feel the need to as you are now attacking people when they speak objectively on your thread. You attack members even when they take Chris Thomas's information seriously, but discredit a portion of it out of common sense and evidence.

He said/she said/they said. Same old story. Do you base all of your thoughts on what other people say? Though this Sitchin story may be true, and I am speaking objectively as I do not necessarily follow Sitchin, how do you know that these things were not said to purposely discredit Sitchin? You are contradicting yourself incessantly when you claim that Sitchin channeled material and that he was purposely given false information about the Anunnaki, but claim that Chris Thomas spews out pure information.

Once again, I respect that you "resonate" with Chris Thomas, but it seems that you get offended by any other source of information. I think looking at things objectively can be very beneficial. Even Bill Ryan does not have all the answers...and he is capable of being misled as we all are.

We must look inside ourselves for answers.

[turiya]

Posted by Delight (here)
I appreciate the transcriptions and collations,the additional questions and the answers.
It is possible to disbelieve everything CT says is true and still find it exactly the way it needs to read for us as a story. I am also reminded of a book by Bob Frissell called "Nothing in this book is true but it is exactly the way things are"....

This paradox of reception and transmission of information is to hold the impossible in one's mind. What is the truth in stories? I am pretty sure that the way we read the story is what is true. And what is true is surfacing to be acknowledged.

I have to admit that the number one reason CT's work cannot be true for me is that his facts include the possibility of victimization as attack. Attack cannot be true when love is all that is....but when we are attached to the belief of victimization, attack is exactly the way things are. There is no separation between "races" as all are one but we split off attributes and that made the whole FALSE story possible.

We are trying to find truth in stories when the only place the TRUTH lies is beyond all story in being TRUE to Thyself.

Don't let the squirrels drive you nuts said the small chipmonk. Love, Maggie

'Disbelief' is on the other side of the coin to 'Believing'. Lao Tzu also wrote a book with the title Tao Te Ching. The first sentence of that book is translated as:

THE TAO THAT CAN BE TOLD OF
IS NOT THE ABSOLUTE TAO.

Lao Tzu makes the reader alert to the fact that whatsoever can be said cannot be true.

What you say I am in agreement.

...the only place the TRUTH lies is beyond all story in being TRUE to Thyself.

Truth lies beyond all the words that can be said. Truth lies within, which is beyond words & thought.

So, being here in this thread, within this forum, it is a game... a word game, then it is understood, the truth is found not in what is said. It lies behind that which is said, it lies in-between the words that are written, between the lines of words seen on the page/screen.

Not to 'Believe', or 'disbelieve', but to 'know' for oneself... to 'know' one's self.

And, if it is understood that one has an infinite depth, is continuously changing (without end), then the phrase "to know oneself" is not enough. Because 'to know' implies that knowing has come to a completion, to an end. Which can not be the case.
The correct word choice is to have a 'knowing' oneself, which is without an end. It continues on & on... into infinity, as one continuously changes, it is an ongoing process never-ending process, which continues on into infinity. An infinite being which changes infinitely.

cheers

[turiya]

For those that only have a cursory view of this thread, I will again post what Bill Ryan has written (Post #3) in another thread called The Anunnaki, their history on earth, where are they today? which was started by Ernie Nemeth in February of this year:

Bill Ryan wrote (here):

"According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true." (Underlined emphasis is mine.)

Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011

From the above quoted posted message (if taken as a true statement), it is obvious that this leaves plenty of doubt as to whether Zecharia Sitchin had actually ‘translated’ the Sumerian Tablets himself, but rather, points to a rather surprising alternative in that he was actually being fed this material through “channeled” means from an Annunaki [Velon] entity. As the Annunaki are a sub-race of the race of Velon, according to Chris Thomas.

Enjoy...

[OnyxKnight]

Has Chris Thomas said why this planet? Gold may be rare, but its not that rare that beings from another galaxy would come waaay over here to get it.

Has his (also) channeled material brought some solid answer to this?

[turiya]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
Has Chris Thomas said why this planet? Gold may be rare, but its not that rare that beings from another galaxy would come waaay over here to get it.

Has his (also) channeled material brought some solid answer to this?

OnyxKnight, thanks for your sincere interest.

Chris Thomas says that from birth he found that he has been "hard-wired" with a direct connection to the Akashic. He says that he doesn't need to go into a trance-like state, or even into a meditative state to have this direct connection. Its almost like pretty-near an instantaneous connection. Chris has never claimed that he has ever received "channeled" information from any entity whatsoever.

Unlike someone else who claims to be able to access the Akashic & calls himself the "Galactic Historian". From his own words, in a recent interview with Lance White, he, himself, has said he has communicated with the "Ashtar Command". Now, from what little I understand about the "Ashtar Command", to communicate with such an entity known as the "Ashtar Command", it means one has to channel that connection.

Chris Thomas says the "Ashtar Command" is but only one of the personas that the Velon have used to "channel" messages to gullible human beings.

As far as 'WHY' the Annunaki/Velon come to Earth to acquire gold, now, as Chris Thomas has explained, this is just part of the "Annunaki/Velon Fantasy Story". It is all a fictional story created by the Annunaki/Velon to fool people on this planet into believing that they are our creator gods. So, there is no answer to this part of your question. Its BS fantasy fiction, plain & simple.

Now where else, OnyxKnight, would you have gotten the idea that human beings have Annunaki genes in them? Except from the Zecharia Sitchin material. And, if Bill Ryan is true to his word, and I don't think there are many people that would think otherwise, then its very possible that the information that you had gotten (i.e. from Zecharia Sitchin's material) about the idea that human beings have Annunaki genes, then the very source of that idea could very well be "channeled" information.

Now, you have stated in Post #236:

"Genetics will always win an argument against channeled material. I'm sorry, but that's not a claim, that's a fact."

By now, you have no doubt read what Bill Ryan has said about Zecharia Sitchin receiving "channeled" material from the Annunaki through the method of 'automatic writing', so then please tell me, SamwiseTheBrave, Observer, & everyone else that comes to read this thread: From WHERE did you get your FACT(s) that human beings on planet Earth have Annunaki genes?

Do you, yourself, have the "hard physical evidence" that Annunaki genes are part of human DNA?

If you don't absolutely know this for yourself, and you got this information from someone else, from somewhere else, on the web, heard it on radio or read it in a book - perhaps, a book written by Zecharia Sithin, then you are being fed information that you are "believing" to be factual, and/or could very possibly have come (according to Bill Ryan) from a "channeled" source via Zecharia Sitchin's books.

Belief often time trumps truth. One can believe it to be factual, but believing it as such doesn't make it so.

Now, I am not believing, nor disbelieving what Chris Thomas is saying - in fact, leave Chris Thomas totally out of our little discussion altogether, here (between me & you), all I am doing, here, is simply questioning whether the Zecharia Sitchin material should be accepted as scientific fact, when a very reliable authority on scientific fact has come forth & said that Zecharia Sitchin really didn't translate the Cuneiform Tablets but, on the contrary, received "channeled" material from an Annunaki [Velon] entity, and then put that channeled information into his books & presented it as fact - for so many, many, many people to read & "believe" & take as fact.

That's all what this is about.
Just something to consider on this "stuff", is all I am saying here.

cheers

[Delight]

Turiya, Thanks again. I think I have learned from Chris Thomas.

I tried to use CT's newspaper clearance process but could no longer find newsprint in my world or pencils!
Luckily there are many ways to clear our attachments.

Alan Watts is just a joy to me as a story teller. The notion of the world as dramatic play for us and cyclic time are to be taken into account. He says the complaint as long as we have been seeing a story line (history) is that we are always in the Kali Yuga. That made me laugh!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E3Y0bGUk4Dg

[FireHorse]

I'd like to jump into this, if you don't mind...got a couple/three points to make.

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
Has Chris Thomas said why this planet? Gold may be rare, but its not that rare that beings from another galaxy would come waaay over here to get it.

Has his (also) channeled material brought some solid answer to this?

As far as 'WHY' the Annunaki/Velon come to Earth to acquire gold, now, as Chris Thomas has explained, this is just part of the "Annunaki/Velon Fantasy Story". It is all a fictional story created by the Annunaki/Velon to fool people on this planet into believing that they are our creator gods. So, there is no answer to this part of your question. Its BS fantasy fiction, plain & simple.

Point One
Page 1 of this very thread covers your question, Onyx (go read a little...):

This is what the Akashic has to say about the Annunaki. They originate in a solar system that has two suns, around these two suns orbit eight planets; three planets orbit one sun whilst four orbit around the other; the eighth planet orbits around both suns, taking the equivalent of 3,600 Earth years to do so. This eighth planet is known to its inhabitants as Anu as well as Nibiru.

This is obviously where the Annunaki originate although their solar system is known as Velus, after the primary solar system consciousness, and the inhabitants of the solar system are known as Velon.

The Velon peoples are semi-physical in energy patterns and so are much less physically dense than we are. Although collectively they are known as Velon, they have divided up themselves into six different races. These are: Oa, Mila, Jjundaa, Johnaan, Hathor and Annunaki.

Most of the population live on the main planet called Velus but also inhabit several of the other planets as well. Some time ago, a disaster happened in the Velus system where one of the planetary moons collided with one of the planets (see my books for full details) causing a great deal of destruction and the population of that planet moved to other planets in the Velus system to avoid the catastrophe.

The home world of the Annunaki, called either Anu or Nibiru, has an atmosphere which is very dense in order to keep the surface habitable as the planet travels the vast distances as it orbits around both suns. The nearest description of what this dense substance is made from would be gold.

[Emphasis mine...]


Point Two

As far as their solar system itself is concerned, the primary solar system consciousness, Velus, appears to have lost interest in its solar system as the suns are slowly dying.

The Velon are a peoples who have kept themselves very much to themselves with very little contact with any of the other races. In fact, they seem to have remained very much within their home galaxy and not ventured outside of it very much at all. However, about 1,000 years ago one of the Velon ships broke through the energy boundary of their home galaxy and discovered an energy flow.

Throughout this universe, there are always free moving energies. Some of these energy flows are targeted at specific regions to, say, help in that region's development. Unfortunately, for us, the energy flow detected by the Velon ship was the primary energy flow directed at our solar system (this energy is intended to help us in our experiment on Earth and is directed at Silbury Hill in Wiltshire).

The reporting of this energy flow caused a massive revelation within the Velus system and sparked a race to try to be the first of the six Velon races to arrive at the end of this energy flow. The Velus consciousness seems to have had some kind of strange “religious” moment at this news and began to see the Velon as “God‟s chosen people” who should live on “God's chosen planet”. In other words, the Velon should move to Earth.

[Emphasis mine...]

Posted by turiya (here)
Now, I am not believing, nor disbelieving what Chris Thomas is saying - in fact, leave Chris Thomas totally out of our little discussion altogether, here (between me & you), all I am doing, here, is simply questioning whether the Zecharia Sitchin material should be accepted as scientific fact, when a very reliable authority on scientific fact has come forth & said that Zecharia Sitchin really didn't translate the Cuneiform Tablets but, on the contrary, received "channeled" material from an Annunaki [Velon] entity, and then put that channeled information into his books & presented it as fact - for so many, many, many people to read & "believe" & take as fact.

That's all what this is about.
Just something to consider on this "stuff", is all I am saying here.

cheers

Point Three
One of the interviews I listened to, Chris clearly stated that he read Sitchin's material but, that he did not believe that Sitchin was deliberately misleading anyone (I am paraphrasing what follows...). He stated that he [Sitchin] translated just fine but, the story was just wrong. He also stated that Sitchin was an excellent Cuniform translator and spoke highly of him in that regard. If someone in the scientific community has come forward and said that Sitchin channeled, not translated, it had nothing to do with Chris. And, to add to that, Chris, on this very subject, agrees with Sitchin in that the Annunaki do exist...just not exactly as Sitchin has described. There is a connection between these two men because they are (were in Sitchin's case) talking about the same thing, just coming at it from different directions.

I hope that helps a bit, Onyx...

~FireHorse

[FireHorse]

Posted by observer (here)
Allow me to first of all state, for the record, that I am a researcher of evidence. I look primarily for objective evidence. I take my effort very seriously, and I am personally offended when someone attacks the conclusions I offer without first looking at the evidence associated to those conclusions.

Haven't you done the very same thing with this material? Attacking the conclusions without first looking at the evidence associated to the conclusions?

Posted by observer (here)
There is no credible evidence that the Akashic Records (*) are anything more than what many call the Astral Plane. Now, one may argue there is a difference, however, I would then suggest for one to show us the proof of this difference. Perhaps a broken fragment of an artifact from antiquity.... an historic reference.... anything one might hold and examine to demonstrate the validity of this claim.

1. Sanskrit is very old. Akashic is Sanskrit. Is there a Sanskrit word for Astral Plane?
2. Historic reference...Nostradamus was, perhaps, an Akashic reader? [Just a thought]
3. Hold and examine to demonstrate validity...can you hold love?

Posted by observer (here)
What Mr. FireHorse has quoted from one of the many comments one might find regarding my experience is accurate. I spent over thirty years of my adult life subscribing to Telepathically Implanted Messages. Many of those years were subscribing to the interpretations of Edgar Cayce, one of the worlds most famous interpreters of the alleged Akashic Records.

For this reason, I have no desire to waste hours of my precious time researching the work of your Mr. Thomas which, to me, reads like a cheep fiction novel. Because this is the case, I'm certain you will add me to your reject list, if you are a man of your word.

1. Interesting you should say those exact words...during one of Chris's interviews, he states that he knows that his information sounds like a cheap sci-fi novel. It's ironic, don't you think?
2. Re-read my first answer above. Here's an idea...grab some coffee, go to YouTube and listen to all of the videos you can find with Chris Thomas in them. You will only lose a day. What could that hurt? At least, you will have tried instead of just dismissing Chris outright because of your past history with Edgar Cayce's material.
3. Don't overlook the fact that Chris's information is not diametrically opposed to Sitchin's. He just has additional information. That's what Onawah was trying to share on your thread...additional information.
4. I'm answering you here so that I won't be accused of being hostile.

~FireHorse

[Kalamos]

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[Gardener]

It is however inaccessible to the above average clairvoyant, but only accessible by Highly Evolved persons on this Earth and above, who are considered not to speak of or release the information there outside of the authority of the Planetary Hierarchy.

That was my understanding also Calamus. The astral is not the akashic, the akashic has a complete personal record and a complete record of everything in the cosmology of the All. Access is earned through quality of consciousness and cannot be altered, that was my understanding. I could of course be wrong.

Regarding the difference of opinions on the 'annunaki' there is quite a bit of' 'vested interest' in them. In the same way that egyptologists are not keen to alter their 'current information'. It would be quite inconvenient.

I tend to agree with CT on this one.

[Kalamos]

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[Kalamos]

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[FireHorse]

I just had to post this. I was just reading a synopsis of an interview on C2CAM from this past Thursday:

The Gifted Generation

The reason I find this fascinating is because Chris has mentioned in one of his interviews that there has been a wave of children born with longer strands of DNA (hence memories of the past lives).

Just throwing that out there...

~FireHorse
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===Update/Edit===

Here we go:

Posted by turiya (here)
Chris Thomas wrote:

As we undergo change, our DNA is expanding. Over the past twenty-five years, there has been talk of many children being born with an additional four or five strands of DNA that activate at birth (in addition to the usual two). These are the so-called 'Indigo' or 'Star' children. The extra DNA represents more memory contained within the body and gives these children their 'advanced' capabilities. Our full compliment of DNA will eventually be thirteen strands to the helix. The same is true for adults. The more 'demolition' work we do – the more we clear out – the more DNA we build as the Higher Self downloads more of itself into the body.

The next few years may well be traumatic and we need to put these future events into perspective – they are symptoms of change. The more we accept and work with these changes, the faster we will catch up with our children.
©2006 by Chris Thomas.
SOURCE

DNA Evidence for "the New Human"
by Mary Rodwell:

The DNA evidence has been really important for me. And I've got now from a credible scientist's information about the changes in DNA. For example, Dr William Brown in Hawaii has actually qualified the fact that our DNA is changing. And I've got an amazing quote from him that I can share with you where it qualifies what an experiencer was telling me 10 years ago about the changes in DNA for the "new human". And, to have that now qualified by a scientist, a geneticist, that is saying, "Yes, this is what I believe is going on , as well." That's when people can start saying, "Well, if scientists are now saying this, at least the more forward thinking scientists, then maybe I can take this on board and start to put this into a bigger paradigm that is not the same as the old one.

What changes have they noticed?
Tracy Taylor told me ten years ago:

"The new race of beings on this planet, increasing in numbers, are visually & physically no different to most humans, and they are here to guide the awakening terrestrial consciousness."

Source: At the 43 minute mark of the video below.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5YajMvsCotE

turiya

[turiya]

The Gifted Generation

Thanks, FireHorse, I found the C2C program that you referenced on youtube. However, C2C has been taking down youtube videos that have been posting their shows. I did find another interview with another Radio Show Host w/ an interview of P.M.H. Atwater called Miracle Children & Mars.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=c6M5G34rZGo

turiya

[FireHorse]

Posted by turiya (here)
The Gifted Generation

Thanks, FireHorse, I found the C2C program that you referenced on youtube

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hzEvb8Z6kQU

turiya

EEK. YouTube took it down...copyright claim from Premiere Radio Networks. Let me see if I can download and attach. I'm a Coast Insider.

~FireHorse

[Delight]

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Posted by FireHorse (here)
turiya

EEK. YouTube took it down...copyright claim from Premiere Radio Networks. Let me see if I can download and attach. I'm a Coast Insider.

~FireHorse

FYI, here is a post of that segment

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=i6sdiUbcVfs

PMH Atwater says many new humans have been incarnating since the mid 1800's but an uptick happened in 1982. I know I am one of these new people born to a family who were changing in genotype as evidenced by characteristics. Some might think this is "off planet" intervention but it does not matter. We are. I claim it, I love it, I will be able to help by knowing who I am. Here are some ideas about a "Fifth Root" expression....

Always, when trying to verify predictions, movements, and cycles, look for correlations—the microcosm always reflects the macrocosm, and vice versa. Since 1982, the following has either been newly discovered, revealed, or occurred en masse: Fifth Communication Wave (personal computers); Fifth Brain (the heart); Fifth Brain Wave Frequency (gamma); Fifth Basic Force (torsion waves); Fifth Destiny (the rise of female power); Fifth Discipline (businesses as learning centers); Fifth Element (ether); Fifth Dimension (freed from time/spaces states, intention rules).

Toss the labels of indigo, crystal, starseed, rainbow, and psychic, as they mislead and exaggerate (also discard “golden indigos”). Then, bunch together the characteristics these labels supposedly describe, and you have the pattern of the “new” kids—a pattern around for a while in the gene pool of the human family that has finally overspread landmasses—and moved into ascendancy. http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/blog.a...926&blogid=445

[FireHorse]

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by FireHorse (here)
EEK. YouTube took it down...copyright claim from Premiere Radio Networks. Let me see if I can download and attach. I'm a Coast Insider.

~FireHorse

FYI, here is a post of that segment

[Video]

PMH Atwater says many new humans have been incarnating since the mid 1800's but an uptick happened in 1982. I know I am one of these new people born to a family who were changing in genotype as evidenced by characteristics. Some might think this is "off planet" intervention but it does not matter. We are. I claim it, I love it, I will be able to help by knowing who I am. Here are some ideas about a "Fifth Root" expression....

Always, when trying to verify predictions, movements, and cycles, look for correlations—the microcosm always reflects the macrocosm, and vice versa. Since 1982, the following has either been newly discovered, revealed, or occurred en masse: Fifth Communication Wave (personal computers); Fifth Brain (the heart); Fifth Brain Wave Frequency (gamma); Fifth Basic Force (torsion waves); Fifth Destiny (the rise of female power); Fifth Discipline (businesses as learning centers); Fifth Element (ether); Fifth Dimension (freed from time/spaces states, intention rules).

Toss the labels of indigo, crystal, starseed, rainbow, and psychic, as they mislead and exaggerate (also discard “golden indigos”). Then, bunch together the characteristics these labels supposedly describe, and you have the pattern of the “new” kids—a pattern around for a while in the gene pool of the human family that has finally overspread landmasses—and moved into ascendancy. http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/blog.a...926&blogid=445

Thanks, Delight. I just found out the hard way that I can't attach MP3s. I'd have to upload them somewhere else and then link. Don't have an account anywhere to upload to, to link back here.

~FireHorse

[turiya]

Posted by Calamus (here)
There seem to be a lot of dynamics at play, and really, as I casually examine 'these things' I find CT coming out with the most sensible information (...). It's a weird game that 'something' is playing.

I'm seeing a MASSIVE new Paradigm, an Ideology where people are being LED to believe there are ALIENS that are physically present (they may be, though I've not seen any myself), as well as present behind the scenes, and controlling our Governments in through a Cabal (by very possibly dark magical powers/astral forces, built up to new and dangerous levels by new technology?)

Do we see how HUGE this new Religion is? Where man is God, but being Abused and controlled by a Higher Power -- Aliens?? same f'ing game, new characters

EVERY Channeled piece is a voice of the New Prophets of a Grand Deception. All the Velon and Annaunki and, (I'm just going off here) the whole conspiracy theory ranks, ALL of it falls under a new paradigm, and as we BELIEVE it, and pass it on, and jump from one alien to another, one informant to another, we are giving it power.

I COULD BE WRONG! But it's weird, and it might be leading to something grand coming, or just making people to look like fools in the long run, as nothing pans out, but we keep getting dragged along from one Government regime to another, a few years a time.

I think I just threw up (figuratively). I'm just observing and trying to figure it out, while not biting down hard on anything, you know.

I'm standing by my theory still that all of this is by design and being watched over by Benevolent AND Malevolent forces, that are as old as literal dirt. There is purpose, and while some of us are on to the game, we are being deterred left and right from finding the truth, because the truth is, we're supposed to be asleep like the MASSES! It's leading to something... maybe ... I f'ing hope.

Wow, I got emotional. :D
turyia, please excuse my rant. I'll limit my posts here to honest questions and discussion of CT's material.

Not a problem at all, Calamus. Enjoyed your input. I sense there is some resonance within with what you are relating. Cuz its seems the same with me. And its growing. I sent an email to Herbert today saying the same. How huge is this channeling religion? Nobody has a clue, but it is quite huge. Something certainly... something coming & on the way with all this... is what I too sense. Just feel compelled with providing this information in this thread, that seems so many appear to be oblivious to.

Anyway, enough for now.
Please feel free to throw up (figuratively) any time the urge comes.

Cheers - turiya

[turiya]

Posted by FireHorse (here)

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by FireHorse (here)
EEK. YouTube took it down...copyright claim from Premiere Radio Networks. Let me see if I can download and attach. I'm a Coast Insider.

~FireHorse

FYI, here is a post of that segment

[Video]

PMH Atwater says many new humans have been incarnating since the mid 1800's but an uptick happened in 1982. I know I am one of these new people born to a family who were changing in genotype as evidenced by characteristics. Some might think this is "off planet" intervention but it does not matter. We are. I claim it, I love it, I will be able to help by knowing who I am. Here are some ideas about a "Fifth Root" expression....

Always, when trying to verify predictions, movements, and cycles, look for correlations—the microcosm always reflects the macrocosm, and vice versa. Since 1982, the following has either been newly discovered, revealed, or occurred en masse: Fifth Communication Wave (personal computers); Fifth Brain (the heart); Fifth Brain Wave Frequency (gamma); Fifth Basic Force (torsion waves); Fifth Destiny (the rise of female power); Fifth Discipline (businesses as learning centers); Fifth Element (ether); Fifth Dimension (freed from time/spaces states, intention rules).

Toss the labels of indigo, crystal, starseed, rainbow, and psychic, as they mislead and exaggerate (also discard “golden indigos”). Then, bunch together the characteristics these labels supposedly describe, and you have the pattern of the “new” kids—a pattern around for a while in the gene pool of the human family that has finally overspread landmasses—and moved into ascendancy. http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/blog.a...926&blogid=445

Thanks, Delight. I just found out the hard way that I can't attach MP3s. I'd have to upload them somewhere else and then link. Don't have an account anywhere to upload to, to link back here.

~FireHorse

Yes, I noticed the Haggmann & Hagmann video sitting there when I did a youtube search for "The Gifted Generation"
Seems the C2C administrative guys, and/or youtube itself, have become quite hawkish in order to shut down anyone that attempts to post any of George Noory's radio show programs. It only makes good business sense to do so. Ripping audio & creating youtubes is becoming more & more of a fine art. In this case, I like the concept - place the image of Haggmann & Haggmann as the video screen image, then place the C2C program as the audio & add plenty of empty audio at the end. Got to give credit to the video maker for showing a way to avoid an instantaneous 'copyright infringement' deletion. We shall see how long it remains available to view & listen to.

turiya