The "Hitler" Speech They (Don't) Want You To Hear..!

[GoodETxSG]

In 70 years even with the hours of video and other "Physical Evidence" there will be people that will argue that there the Twin Towers never existed in New York... That there was never an attack be it by hijacked planes or a false flag mini-nuke inside job. All of the evidence will be argued to be manufactured and all that lived and witnessed the event will either be dead or extremely old and marginalized. With the technology that may be around then how easily will they be able to explain away every argument? CGI will be like dubbing video tapes with razors and scotch tape to them... maybe.

That is how the "Big Lie" theory of manipulation and re-writing of history works. You wait until most of the people die off, there for the emotion of the event fades (Think Pearl Harbor and D-Day)... then slowly start making subtle changes to main stream school curriculum. Then after a couple of generational revolutions (1960's, 1970's etc...) each with its own piffy name... Generation X, The Lost Generation etc... Then you see how over time governments and fascist groups plant seeds of doubt... begin to change history, create their own perceptions and open fresh new generations for brainwashing.

I have witnessed this occur in my short lifetime in our own country and while watching the fall of the "Iron Curtain" and the evolution of the "New Europe".

I do not suppose that my grandparents and great uncles (Had hard numbers on paper) who were Navy Intel and Army Intel during WWII in both the Pacific and European Theaters and a few cases arrived directly after the liberation of some of these death camps. But when I and my cousins grew up listening to the stories of dead emaciated bodies stacked like wood, and the cremation area's where they breathed in the ashes and stepped on teeth and bone fragments knee deep I have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Was there an exaggerated number of both the Nazi and Stalin's tens of millions murdered? Maybe, but these people in my family saw enough mass death and had to do reports on so many mass graves and kill sites that I do not think the number could have been greatly exaggerated (It haunted them until their deaths as old men). You do not see the films of the dead being pushed around with bulldozers into pile so high that it is hard to tell they are human anymore.

You may think that my example of the Twin Towers is ridiculous (And insensitive)... But if you were to suggest 60 years ago that so many thousands of people under a certain age from so many countries today not only entertain the idea that not only are the numbers of the "Holocaust" incorrect but that it did not happen at all they would feel pretty much the same way.

I understand xenophobia is out of control in the region especially after the creation of Israel post WWII and the Israel's LEADERSHIP has not helped its PEOPLE or made any friends (Illuni-Nazi/Neo-Con Zionists are NOT the Jewish People! They are infiltrators with a dark agenda just like they are here in America IMHO)...

But think about it people. What other atrocities and crimes against humanity have been white washed from the historical record? If the Nazi Crimes and The Crimes of Stalin and other Fascist's can be questioned and erased after just a few generations just so the same cycles can be repeated... What hope do we have of bringing the current Illumi-Nazi Cabal to justice for their crimes against humanity (Their Victims include these deaths/murders and many hundreds of millions more unto the current era)?

They will figure, look... we just give a few soldiers over to be hanged and then wait the world out for a few generations and start the manipulation and process all over. Where would be the justice for all of those murdered (Jewish, Muslim, Christian, White, Black, Hispanic... Every Genetic Tree of Our Race Has Paid through torture and murder)?

This is a stomach turning/sickening topic my friends... Something to think about IMHO... OR, something to just pick at and argue about like the scattered race we are.

[Andrew]

Why did the Tibetans trust the Nazi's? You would of thought if any peoples on this planet would be able to sense evil or wrong doing it would be them, yet they allowed them much access to there sacred works and there was even monks found in Berlin at the end of the war.

[Andrew]

I found this film on youtube and Hitler sounds like the people protesting about the policies of the leaders of today yet this was in 1940's

Today history is repeating it's self again but with no Hitler hmm

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PfMvwTZgiKQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_tmi4aNGoAo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9rbxpGX-BKU

[Agape]

I think that they were all profoundly wrong ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oL_KS6pQxe4

the wars as bizarre as peoples ideas about their true ethnicity and true religion
and those fighting each other
equally mistaken .

Just letting some African rap through and in here . Coughing and tired so won't make a great point today but I made an effort to find out how did the Hebrews look like for all the talk about race and caste .

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Andrew (here)
Why did the Tibetans trust the Nazi's? You would of thought if any peoples on this planet would be able to sense evil or wrong doing it would be them, yet they allowed them much access to there sacred works and there was even monks found in Berlin at the end of the war.

They were not on the list. Why be afraid?

[Cidersomerset]

I watched this movie earlier and its set in a front line Trench in WW1 on the eve of
the battle of the Somme where 60,000 British soldiers were either killed or
wounded in the first 2hrs. It stars Daniel Craig and is a realistic view of the
atmosphere between ranks and gives you a feel of the conditions. Hitler would have
had similar experiances to the 'Tommies' portrayed here. There are a few graphic
scenes ,but most is about the tensions, fears of the young men getting ready for
the coming,supposed 'walk over' as the pre bombardment lasting days was
designed to kill all the germans or drive them them from the front. Ironically what
the generals did not take into account was the german bunkers were built deeper
and more solid than the allied ones and it turned into one of the bloodiest battles in history..



The Trench [Full movie]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_QUld96TzJs

[Cidersomerset]

It depends what you believe .....Himmler was involved with trying to find
the true source of the Aryan race. His SS were to be the new Tutonic
nights, guardians of the 1000 year Reich. There contact with the ET's
thru the Vrill society is an important part of this. Hitler does not seem
to have shared Himmlers ideas.

A side bar....The elites have always used shamans, priests and more
recently mediums to contact spirits from the astral plain and some
still do, for guidance and planning.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l6DhIsLjkQ0

This seems to be the official film of the expedition, interresting if there is an
English subtitled version...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2DyTUz_9grs

[Tony]

To holocaust deniers.

You may dismiss the suffering of others
for your own ideas or rather the ideas of others.

However you cannot deny that we as humans
can cause atrocious and terrible suffering
on other humans or creatures, and are still doing so.

If someone writes, “I am suffering.”
Do you dismiss it, because you haven't actually met them?
Or do you spontaneously feel empathy and compassion?

Never forget your true nature.
Never forget.
One day they may come knocking on your door.




Tony

[Milneman]

GoodeTXSG:

AMEN!!!!!

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Posted by Andrew (here)
Why did the Tibetans trust the Nazi's? You would of thought if any peoples on this planet would be able to sense evil or wrong doing it would be them, yet they allowed them much access to there sacred works and there was even monks found in Berlin at the end of the war.

Well, without having any actual evidence, off hand I can say this....

If you understand the Tibetan concept of compassion, and just how important compassion is on such a deeply spiritual question, you've answered your question.

They didn't trust the Chinese. Just saying.

[Cidersomerset]

The Nazi was not the only regime by any means to cull captured/conquered peoples.
There is no argument that millions were murdered in the wake of the advancing
armies. The Russian NKVD murdered millions prior to the German invasion and
many saw the them as liberators particularly in the Ukraine and the Baltic states
who also saw the Jews and Russians as oppressors. The whole thing is
complicated and many SS guards and security forces were not German. They
exploited already festering wounds and historic anti semetic animosities eventually
organising the killings more efficiently.

The Rumanian regime were quite complicit in the murder of their Jewish population
and did it eagerly to please their German allies, as was the case by most of the
puppet regimes under control for that brief period of only aprox 3 years much
less in some cases.


Einsatzgruppen - German Death Squads Part I: Mass Graves (1941-1942

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=j566WQquCbM

Published on 5 Oct 2013


In June 1941, German mobile killing squads, known as Einsatzgruppen, were
dispatched throughout Eastern Europe. By the spring of 1943, the 3000 members
of the Einsatzgruppen, led by highly-educated officers and aided by local
collaborators in each country, had systematically murdered over a million Jews and
tens of thousands Roma, handicapped, partisans and non-combatants. Who were
these men who organized and carried out mass murder at close range?

Prazan's definitive masterwork is one of the essential films documenting the
Holocaust and features a powerful array of astounding, never-seen-before film and
photographs (some in color) discovered by the filmmakers in Eastern European
archives. Prazan interviews a slate of internationally renowned historians, including
Christopher Browning, Christian Ingrao, Martin Dean and Ralf Ogorreck, along with
Holocaust survivors, witnesses and perpetrators (several filmed using hidden
cameras).

The film's scope is broad, treating the Einsatzgruppen's leadership, rank-and-file
and collaborators, the machinations of their operations and the attempts soon after
to dig up and destroy the evidence. The later part of the film explores efforts to
bring members of the Einsatzgruppen to justice. Benjamin Ferencz, prosecutor of
the Einsatzgruppen trial, is interviewed at length.

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Einsatzgruppen - German Death Squads Part II: Funeral Pyres (1942-1945)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PiwCGp6PBnA

These are harrowing documentaries and without the 'gas' chambers show how
cruel humanity can be at its worse. There is no doubting Hitler led an evil regime.
That is not to say others were not as bad.




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Rumania another willing and complicit ally....




Antonescu (left) was an ally of Hitler on the Russian front



Roma Holocaust victims speak out

Holocaust Memorial Day on 27 January is an occasion for Jews and Roma (Gypsies)
to remind the world how their families were terrorised and butchered by the Nazis
in World War II. The Roma people of Vlasca - traditional metal workers called
Kalderash - are closed and inward-looking. They are reluctant to talk to anyone
from outside the community.

It took weeks of negotiation to hear the accounts of Holocaust survivors in the village.


The wartime suffering of many Roma villagers is not well documented

Roma in Vlasca, a village in southeastern Romania, told the BBC's Delia Radu about their wartime ordeal.

Read more...



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7844797.stm

[Milneman]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
To holocaust deniers.

You may dismiss the suffering of others
for your own ideas or rather the ideas of others.

However you cannot deny that we as humans
can cause atrocious and terrible suffering
on other humans or creatures, and are still doing so.

If someone writes, “I am suffering.”
Do you dismiss it, because you haven't actually met them?
Or do you spontaneously feel empathy and compassion?

Never forget your true nature.
Never forget.
One day they may come knocking on your door.

Tony

THANK YOU TONY! Very well said.

[Milneman]

I was listening to a lecture the other night and something the lecturer said struck me as really significant to this conversation.

So I'm going to include a very, very disturbing image to make a point. I think it's time we start looking at this issue right in the eye people.



This is a horrific image, and it's going to be offensive to some people and I hope it is! And yet, if you look at the picture of this lynching, there are people in the crowd smiling. There are literally dozens of images of lynchings in the south, and in almost every picture to some greater or lesser degree, people are smiling.

Because in their world view, what's happened is normal.

Do you think this is normal?

Is there a difference between people lynching and sending people in box cars to killing factories? Well, there are differences in numbers to be sure. I started out a few posts into this thread asking, are we seriously having this conversation? And again, I ask you to look at that picture, and tell me this never happened.



This never happened?



This never happened?



This never happened?

.

This never happened?



This never happened?



This never happened?



This never happened?

[Milneman]

This never happened?



This never happened?



It didn't happen.



Its a conspiracy.



It was done for other reasons than what you're saying.



Those are marks made by human beings, trying to claw their way out of the gas chamber. Let that sink in before you reply to this thread. Really. LET IT SINK IN.


For every one of those rings, there's a human being...and maybe children. Let that sink in before you post again.



Did this never happen?



Never happened.

[Milneman]

Its a conspiracy, right?



The global elite did it.



They exaggerated the numbers.



They exaggerated.



Can't be six million.



Maybe four million?



One hundred fifty thousand, that's all there was.



Didn't the Germans give them the chance to get out? Didn't they want them in Palestine?



Hitler wasn't that bad, he did a lot of good for the German people.



Still think it didn't happen?

Does it make it any better if you can't see the people in the picture smiling?

If anything good has come out of this thread, it's that it's pointed out the fact that there are still people who smile. You just can't see them because they got smart, and got behind the camera.

Again, I ask...and more emphatically....

Are we seriously having this conversation?

God help us if we are.

[Cidersomerset]

As time goes by many wonder why the Jews & others did not fight back. There are
many reasons for this, communications were not like they are today, it happenened
in a relatively short period of time, in a lot of cases the local security forces were
complicit, deception was excellent, captive civilians did not expect to be shot, and
were being rounded up to be relocated.As it went on it got more elaborate until it
becomes unbelievable.

Recently its estimated 100,000's of civilians have died in Iraq, Syria, Libya and
the genocides in Rwanda , Cambodia, Mau's China some of these were over
very short periods. Bosnia, Vietnam, Lebanon , Palestine Shri Lanka , Tibet
and others. Millions have be caught up in ethnic conflicts and murdered by
one side or another.

Hitler was right about international Zionism controlling the banking system
thus the world. But that was no excuse to do what he did.

There were pockets of resistance and some who could did fight back..
This movie is based on a true story of one such group that managed to
escape to the forests of Bello Russia.

The main para military resistance in Eastern Europe were the Partisans
who did tie down many axis security divisions and disrupted supply lines.



The full movie was on U'tube , but seems to have been taken down.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yw6Rwum7zcU

You have to sign in to watch this link..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ziOM3QJCQpY

Uploaded on 15 Nov 2011


Based on an extraordinary true story, Defiance is an epic tale of family, honour,
vengeance and salvation in World War II. The year is 1941 and the Jews of Eastern
Europe are being massacred by the thousands. Managing to escape certain death,
three brothers take refuge in the dense surrounding woods they have known since
childhood. There they begin their desperate battle against the Nazis. Daniel Craig,
Liev Schreiber and Jamie Bell star as brothers who turn a primitive struggle to
survive into something far more consequential- a way to avenge the deaths of their
loved ones by saving thousands of others

[Milneman]

And now I'm going to tell you a story about why I never fought back.

When I was growing up, I was bullied. Terribly. Seems that everyone else at my school knew I was gay before I did. Every day I was told I should've been a girl. I found it easier to hang out with girls because they weren't as cruel to me. But they were still cruel.

Then I was abducted. This did not make things easier. LOL

Then I came to the realization that I was living in a home with alcoholism.

So I learned a way to survive. It wasn't healthy. But I could survive. Barely.

Why didn't I fight back? I did only once. I punched a bully who started out as a friend squarely in the stomach and he never said anything to me again. But up until that point, how could I fight back? I was a queer! I was a cock-sucking faggot! Nobody was on my side...nobody told me it was ok to be queer, I had no idea it was ok. This is what guts me about this...is that LGBT people went to the gas chambers for the same reason as the Jews, and the countless others who were in the way of the ideology. The idea. They were in the way of a fricking idea.

So is it reasonable today to say, you shouldn't get to live because you love people of the same gender? Or because you have certain religious beliefs? Or because you happen to make money at what you do?

Guys, where do we draw the line? When do we say, yes...it's wrong people are doing this, but it's time we take the high road and turn the other cheek!

There was resistance. People did fight back. Escapes and revolts took place at Sobibor, Treblinka, and Auschwitz.

I think what I find so frustrating is how easy it is to look at the facts in such a way as to make one's point more flavorful, while ignoring the rotting corpses and emaciated bodies that line up at one's feet.

Thanks for contributing here Cider.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Milneman for sharing your story, prejudices come in all shapes and forms,
and all were treated equally harshly under the Nazi's and other Regimes. Sexuality
is as old as the human race, and many Great Heroes were not averse to intimate
relationships with their fellow comrades/companions , and is true today.

Luckily a lot has changed for the good , but there are many conservative minded
people who are still , against many aspects of an open society. All over the world
some faction or other will yearn for some aspect of an authorative state, whether
monarchy , Dictatorship or communist based. I watched part of the BBC Question
time from South Africa last night talking about Nelson Mandelas legacy and there
is still much animosity , with the black population still living well below expectations,
though as usual there is an elitist ruling class among the black politicians.

I digress a bit, but as I mentioned on an earlier post, history has been repeating
itself and we are still in these cycles of war & peace. Still being manipulated
for the profit and control of a very small minority of people.

This is where I look at conventional history like evolution with a different slant
and is why I'm on here......

[OnyxKnight]

Here's another good enough reason for them not to touch the Tibetans.

- They had the same off-world 'friends'. Why be enemies?

[Cidersomerset]

Here's another good enough reason for them not to touch the Tibetans.

- They had the same off-world 'friends'. Why be enemies?

They both did if we are to believe those sources, although it did
not help either in the long run. Unless there is still a twist to come.

Then you go into the Ant Antarctica base, Nazi saucers, whether Hitler
survived the war.The take over of of NASA , whether the US is the 4th Reich
and much more, with Joseph Farrells and others work.

Then you really come away from conventional history..LOL...

[Tony]

Just in case you forgot the plot of the story- HOW TRUTH GETS CHANGED.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K1fTL9jlj4Q

In George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Ministry of Truth is Oceania's propaganda ministry. It is one of the four ministries that govern the nation. As with the other Ministries in the novel, the Ministry of Truth is a misnomer and in reality serves the opposite of its purported namesake: it is responsible for any necessary falsification of historical events. The book describes a willful fooling of posterity using doctored historical archives to show a government-approved version of events.
As well as administering truth, the ministry spreads a new language amongst the populace called Newspeak, in which, for example, "truth" is understood to mean statements like 2 + 2 = 5 when the situation warrants.
In Newspeak, the ministry is known as Minitrue.