ET vs terrestrials

[Tangri]

I have a little story for you to filtrate.

A fox, gathered 10 chicken and a couple rooster and told them he is going to give them big barn which will provide safe and warm environment from outside's danger and inconveniences. They thought it would be fun and safer.

Meanwhile previous occupant of the barn, there were a turtle and a Labrador dog
with them.

After few years the Barn was full of the chicken and rooster. He success he could take out sick and death ones from herd then rest will be healthier and food will be more accessible. They accept the offer which would give more space and they will not run more.
edited dec23,2013

A young rooster glances a strange face nearby to his beak he says
Hi,

The turtle replies
Hi,
R- I hope, I am not cutting of your way, I was just looking some snack.
T- No not at all, I do not do snack between meals, these days ,if you like to have some clover leaves, there are plenty under that north-east pillar.
The rooster thanks to turtle and goes that pillar. After nice snacking he picks a nice worm on his return path for turtle.
R- I want to thank you with this worm for tour tip that you gave me earlier.
The turtle smiles
-Oh! thanks, I am a vegetarian, I eat only leaves.
R- I am surprised, I thought all chickens eat worms.
T- I am an egg layers like chickens, but have a little different life style than you


One day a vegetarian Eagle saw this place and told the fox, to leave the herd alone.

Fox replies
-They are happy here and they chose their life style. If I let them outside they are
going to be terrified from your appearance..

edited after Carmody's contribution
Eagle found some curious hen at the one of top windows dreaming somethings different than others. She lands nearby without showing herself and have a chat with it. Eagle finds out that life at the barn seems symbiotic relation at the beginning background it turns parasitic life style and bird kinds does not deserve it.
She tells the hen they are all bird with different size and ability and go back to the rest and give the news to the rest, birds are very lucky animals which can use their wings and legs.

Eagle says
- They are bird, I am a bird and vegetarian. release them immediately.
Fox replies with a greedy voice,

-if you come to close here I am going to burn the barn and told them you did it. They all borne here and do not now the outside and will be vulnerable there without flying ability.

Here my questions for you;

What can the eagle do after this point ?

Development of the story after Skipy's sad video

I need to clarify the vegetarian eagle.
They(it is easier then he/she dilemma) religiously believe below code of conduct

-Demonstrate honesty and integrity
-Respect differences in animals, their ideas, and their opinions
-Treat one another with dignity and respect at all times, and especially when there is disagreement
-Respect and treat others fairly, regardless of, for example, race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, religion, gender, sexual orientation, age, or disability
-Respect the rights of others
-Show proper care and regard for wild property and the property of others
-Take appropriate measures to help those in need
-Seek assistance from a member of the wild life, if necessary, to resolve conflict peacefully
-Respect all members of the wild life, especially persons in positions of authority
-Respect the need of others to work in an environment that is conducive to learning and teaching

Maybe this can help you to develop an empathy for the eagle.

[Flash]

eat the fox, cause his nature will come back.

[Tangri]

Posted by Flash (here)
eat the fox, cause his nature will come back.

Not that easy answer

The eagle is vegetarian.

[Carmody]

the eagle must enter the barn.

[Tangri]

Posted by Carmody (here)
the eagle must enter the barn.

Chickens are not ready yet

[Carmody]

Then... the complex answer,

the prelude to the last resort of entering the barn: Which is to hint. to infiltrate, to make noises on the roof. to show through windows, to be seen and not seen. To let the chickens build their own understanding.

The slow build to an appearance. An appearance with is a last resort, if all else fails.

To tie up the fox in games, as part of that method.

(accidentally edited before I read your last post below) Not forgetting that the Labrador dog is there, of course. Or the turtle. The Labrador dog is going to be barking a warning, possibly.

[Tangri]

I have compelled to add a turtle and a Labrador dog to the story without them story would be half spoken, even though they do not add any to the barn life ,and scare from the birds.

[Freed Fox]

Posted by Flash (here)
eat the fox, cause his nature will come back.

Then you must think the human race deserves extinction.

Human nature is to take, take, take. Endless selfish consumption at the expense of the planet and everything else on it.

[Flash]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
eat the fox, cause his nature will come back.

Then you must think the human race deserves extinction.

Human nature is to take, take, take. Endless selfish consumption at the expense of the planet and everything else on it.

No, I do not see human nature like that at all.

I see a subset of human as take take take, not the whole human race, just a subset. Most people would be quite benevolent if given the choice, except for a few sick ones, mentally disabled sociopath and psychopath who actually have the upper hand.

So, no extinction. Except for a few undesirable ones maybe.lol

[ghostrider]

The eagle can fly elsewhere ...

[Tesseract]

Seems like the eagle could solicit the testimony of the turtle and labrador that the fox didn't build the barn, thus exposing the fox to be deceitful liar.

[skippy]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hYJIAHpDRMs

[Freed Fox]

Posted by Flash (here)
No, I do not see human nature like that at all.

I see a subset of human as take take take, not the whole human race, just a subset.

I strongly disagree, and history disagrees with you as well.

Funny how these 'subsets' have been in all the positions of power from the beginning of recorded history, isn't it?

The truly compassionate, and the very few selfless individuals, have been those who managed to rise above human nature.

Look at the Amazon rain forest; the lungs of the Earth, and we are still eating it away.

Look at Fukushima. Did that incident teach us a lesson? No; we're still building MORE OF THEM.

And exactly how many species have we hunted into extinction, or otherwise driven to that point with our expanse and 'conquest' over nature?

But I guess when we're gasping our last dying breaths, we can rest assured that if we were given the choice, we would have been benevolent.

Edit - the fox in the OP, incidentally, is treating the chickens with more kindness and decency than thousands of HUMANS treat animals in the modern meat industry. But kill him, right? He's not human so who cares? We're so above that sort of thing.

[Tesseract]

[QUOTE=Freed Fox;773670]

Posted by Flash (here)
the fox in the OP, incidentally, is treating the chickens with more kindness and decency than thousands of HUMANS treat animals in the modern meat industry.

Not sure we can trust you for unbiased commentary on Foxes...

[Carmody]

Try not to be the chicken.

Ask yourself: what would eagle do?

(I ponder this question often. it seems to be writ on the world situation, at large. Both subtle and not.) (it is a good exercise. It's about adopting the thing that your are not, so perspective can change)

[Freed Fox]

Posted by Tesseract (here)
Not sure we can trust you for unbiased commentary on Foxes...

Well, that made me smile, so cheers.

But the point is valid. The barn is described as big and warm, and the chickens were given a choice. I'm not even advocating vegetarianism/veganism here, just a shred of decency and compassion. There are any number of horrific expose videos online which illustrate the truly awful conditions animals such as chickens and cattle have to endure in the most 'industrial' facilities.

And Flash, I'm not trying to pick on you. I'm sorry if it seems that way. I admit that I'm presenting a rather pessimistic perspective right now, but that certainly doesn't mean it isn't also realistic.

One thing about being grounded; you tend to get dirty.

Err - down to earth, rather.

[Tangri]

As far as this is just a story, nothing wrong to put some personal detail on the eagle's portfolio.
Now we learned their code of conduct in the story.
I know it makes the answer more complicated, but I am telling you this is the story.

Clue; If you can not create an empathy for eagle it is almost impossible to get understand.
Is there any solution to make eagles be little flexible on their code of conduct ?

[Carmody]

Eagle must find those who wish to leave the barn. surely there must be some. it's a big barn, fox cannot see around all corners at all times. Find the chickens who want something else.

Then, send them back into the barn, with stories of eagle. The chickens must ask for eagle.

(the variations are almost limitless. The point is to pick away at fox's 'loose ends', all the corners that fox cannot cover)

(let me put it to the general reader this way: the higher I get, the further I go, the more often I run into UFO's and 'outsider' contact)

[Hervé]

I am probably hallucinating... but... IIRC... there used to be a monster thread about that subject, although less metaphorical...

See, there were these guys arguing about what to do, etc... one of the guy's name was Bill... the other one had a number of handles... Atticus... Charles... Stephen...

... and the story went that although the crow saved Bill's life, it was still after him and trying to corner him... but then the crow went to nest somewhere else...

[haibane]

Posted by Tangri (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
the eagle must enter the barn.

Chickens are not ready yet

Says who? The fox?