Keshe 5kw Plasma Generator Sales December 2012

[Cristian]

how long is "a bit more" Raf? 2 weeks, two months ...? When exactly are you going to decide?

[RMorgan]

Posted by Chris82 (here)
how long is "a bit more" Raf? 2 weeks, two months ...? When exactly are you going to decide?

Hey mate,

Well, I´m not even worried about that, because I haven´t invested a penny in his device.

Would it even matter if I considered him a scam or not? I guess it wouldn´t.

All I know is that he´s postponing the actual demonstration of his technologies since 2009. Since then, he´s missing one deadline after another. He was supposed to demonstrate his lift (anti-gravity) technology in five continents in 2010, just for you to have an idea.

There is also this stuff about him accepting reservations for a 10 hours flight over 60 km above Earth for 19.000 Euros, and 50.000 Euros for a trip to the moon, that allegedly will happen between 2015 and 2017.

Man, all of this is at least very, I mean, VERY suspicious.

So far, it´s just unfulfilled promises, one after another.

Like we say here in Brazil, mentiras tem pernas curtas (lies are short legged), meaning that lies can´t go very far. We´ll see soon enough.

The question is, would you invest your hard earned money in a project, without seeing any real evidence that it actually works, besides some cool speeches and powerpoint slides? I wouldn´t.

Honestly, I don´t know how he´s got so far showing zero evidence that his technology actually exists.

Raf.

[Cristian]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
The question is, would you invest your hard earned money in a project, without seeing any real evidence that it actually works, besides some cool speeches and powerpoint slides ?

nope

also we say the same here in Romania : minciuna are picioare scurte "mentiras tem pernas curtas" must be our common latin origin

[TargeT]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
mentiras tem pernas curtas (lies are short legged), meaning that lies can´t go very far. We´ll see soon enough.

what always got me was the level of arrogance I saw displayed over just a bunch of talk and confusing as hell patents.

if it works, great, so far though.... I don't see anything to get too excited over.

[TargeT]

We have been informed this week that the manufactures of the reactors would resolve the last problems of the production the coming week and then the systems will be ready to be handed over for the initial testing of the non-nuclear based technology for 3kW power system.

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/sho...ull=1#post9577

So I would assume in the next couple of weeks that we will hear more news.

[Gardener]

Just to chip in on this thread with some musings about free energy device production. This is subjective thought which is part of the problem, and these are just ideas.
In the longer term we likely will move into a phase change in energy supply because we will understand more deeply the implications of our existence in light and frequecy.

We are not quite there yet, for a numer of reasons.
1. The oil based economics are massive and their supporters/benefactors will go to any length to hold the status quo. Many have died or suffered huge deafeats, confiscations and personal loss at the hands of these monolithic monsters.
2. Our (everyone on earth) collective frequency is being artificially held in many ways in a miasma which many call the matrix, affecting our personal ability to transcend oppression, and access this fine energy.

I believe we are on the right road, the thoughts, ideas, and inventions coming forward are an indication this is so. Humanity in general does not yet have the stability and heart centered intentions to take the next step, even though some do, they are rare, there is still a need for humanity (you and I) to clean its house to access that from which this energy will come.

I sometimes (sadly) think that we need some form of global event which puts out the current phase energy for people to get into their heart and see what really matters. Take power away from the monolithic self obsessed oligarchies, level the playing field. See what we are left with in this hologram and work our way through it.

[TargeT]

New date for Info: End of May

The Keshe Foundation making the following announcement regarding the development of the power generator.

The non-nuclear reactor that is the basis of the power generator was received from the manufacturers this week.

The reactor will be put through the setting and start-up processes in the next 2- 3 weeks.

Following this the Foundation starts the full testing of the new system and during this phase starts developing the plasma in the core using the non-nuclear material core.

We will report the results to the forum by the end of May.

From time to time we will post on this forum videos of the tests or pictures of the results from the Foundation’s lab.

As we promised, we gave the USB sticks to governments and waited for their response.

Last year we started negotiations with several organizations and governments to bring the power generator into mass production in different nations and into the hands of the public.

Now in most cases the technology has gone from government to industrial partners and from this point on the technology is in the hand of each nation.

The scientists from these nations will come to the Foundation research center or we will go to them and they will develop their own prototype for their nation.

The Foundation with their commercial partners has guaranteed mass production in six nations.

The next step after June will be the process of certification in each nation.

From this point on the knowledge and know-how is in the hands of more than 100 scientists around the world and the new technology is available to the world of science.

In time we will make the technology available to the general public.

From now on it is the responsibility of the commercial partners in each nation to announce who they are and where they are with regard to the commercialization.

As part of our agreement with all partners, the Foundation will deliver power generators to those who do not have the financial resources to afford them easily and thus the technology will reach the poor at the same rate as the rich.

Thus class division will be overcome through science and we will allocate all profits from our commercial stake in the production of the generators in each nation to the benefit of its own citizens, so that the comfort of all will be improved at the same speed.

This principle of spending of profits on its citizens is written into the mandate for the commercial activities of the companies in each country and hence our ethos is adhered to.
M T Keshe

Director of the Keshe Foundation

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/sho...ll=1#post10153

5 months over due isn't terrible I suppose for what this generator could do.

[sygh]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)
Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

5,000W is 5kW, and is more than enough to power a home, especially with energy saving appliances, correct lighting, good insulation, and passive solar design. Have you done an energy audit of your home? The biggest power consumption comes from heating or cooling anything, be it the house, water or, drying clothes. Generally, we don't have all appliances running at the same time. And, if the power is clean, cheap and convenient who give a darned, right?

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/r...lclulator.html

3-4 kW is actually plenty, as long as heating coils aren't involved. Heck, we could even build a plasma generator into a heating and cooling circuit, or cooking units, etc... with a separate plasma generator for the rest of the home. There are all sorts of possibilities.

The electricity produced by the Keshe plasma generator is D/C. The two things about D/C is the fact that one, it doesn't travel long distances very well and two, because we created a utility grid based on centralized generation, we don't have a lot of D/C appliances. But even the utilities know centralized power and the energy grid is obsolete. (It should have been obsolete a long time ago but...) Since we can make one of these or purchase one already made, we don't need to convert D/C to A/C, we just need more D/C appliances to be offered at a lesser cost to the customer. And again, a small generator could literally be built into the appliance. It's a fricking hit!

Keshe is an absolute hero of humanity and the planet at large. If you go to the foundation website, you will see there are all sorts of plasma generating patents coming form all sorts of companies and some individuals who are just waiting for the governments who are holding it back to give the OK. We need to call our government's hand by demanding the technology! We have got to stand behind, in front of, and to the side of Keshe. This could be one thing or, it could be another but I've taken the time to read some of his (long) patents. I was coming to some of these same conclusions myself, probably from the higher shared consciousness; I've decided to back Keshe 100%, and am asking everyone on Avalon and Camelot to back him as well.

Its has taken a long time to get here and some convoluted travels but... I have come to the conclusion that the deliberate bust of 2008 definitely, and maybe even 2001, has everything to do with this. We've known the technology has played a part but we didn't really know just how much this all played into it but we did - but we didn't, know what I mean? (LOL) TPTB wanted to control the technology, or destroy us, or both. In 2008 they reaped our lands and our savings and have condensed fiscal holdings into a few hands. However, as with any family, as the generations grow, the split gets smaller, and we've seen that come about as well. Yet another reason to want more from Joe and Jill.

As to the decent ones in a position of power and control, they're probably trying to figure out how this is all going to work. I say, play it as it lays and find out first hand!

[sygh]

The basic unit of Keshe's unified theory is the neutron as described
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8UFCYwXi1Vs

and this link... it moves quickly so you will have to watch it several times and stop it occasionally. I'm sure this has been posted here before but the explanation is so good, it can be posted again. This is the most exciting information ever to be put out to the public!



https://youtube.com/watch?v=XHqd8BkNZpw

This lecture below is great.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CRBjtYW6qI4

[Jean-Luc]

Latest news about the Keshe Generator

Announcement by the Keshe Foundation in respect to the 3_4 KW power generators.

Following the development and testing of new materials for space reactor technology for production of plasma in a non-nuclear reactor in the past months, the Keshe Foundation has achieved successful testing in creating and maintaining plasma in these new generation of reactors that we are satisfied to precede with the production of the power generators using the new phenomena.

As the result of this success, the development and preproduction of commercial energy units in conjunction with the keshe Foundation Italy team has started.

The full production phase will follow in the first weeks of 2014.

The Foundation informs the less than one hundred people around the world who have reserved these power units; the delivery of their systems will be fulfilled as systems are produced in February -March 2014.

We thank you for your patience and trust in the work of the Foundation.

Attaining the national certificate for entry and use of these systems will be up on each individual purchaser.

For European users, they can choose to wait for the delivery up on the Foundation submitting and receiving EU certification or they can arrange for the certification by themselves.

Now that the energy unit tests are completed, The Keshe Foundation will start negotiation with governments around the world for the use and implication of the space Magravs systems for motion in early 2014.

This section of the technology will be released first to governments for them to be able to put effective regulations in place for their further use for transportation and cross borders control.

The reason for this move by the Foundation is that the flight systems can involve national securities and we make sure that no nation is left out or can be affected negatively through this development.

We would like to thank members of the Keshe Foundation Italian team, whom have supported us in finishing the last stages of this reactor devlopment.

At the same time, they have become the developers and the producers, and they will carry out the commercialization of power generators in Italy for the Italian nation.

M T Keshe
The director of the Keshe Foundation
Dec 19,2013

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...0271#post30271

Rome wasn't built in a day.

This isn't the first promise.
But there has been reasons for the latest 1 year delay, namely the redesign of the generator with 100% non-nuclear items.

Let's see how things develop.

[Kimberley]

Thank you Jean-Luc! I have a hard time navigating the Keshe forum since it changed...

I have been so looking forward to this news!

[aviators]

Mr. Keshe the world is waiting. Hope you come through and have a lot of benevolent
help.

Looks like this technology will bring star travel and healing too. Below is a new video on the First Public Health Workshop. Godspeed

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7PCO2BUFzQ0

[13th Warrior]

Sygh,

You can pretty much do this now with solar panels and a wind generator...and most likely even cheaper by the time Keshe gets anything to market...

Hell; I could buy a 4kw gas generator for $300.00 and build an ethanol still for many thousands of dollars less...

[Kimberley]

Thank you aviators for posting the workshop...wow over 4 hours...It will take me a while to get through the whole thing...so until then can you give us a synopsis aviators?

Thank you!

[aviators]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Thank you aviators for posting the workshop...wow over 4 hours...It will take me a while to get through the whole thing...so until then can you give us a synopsis aviators?

Thank you!

Kimberley sorry if I dropped such a big one here.
At best I could go back and and take some cliff notes on this skipe interview.
Too much to cover for now.
He appears to be onto some universal principals that perhaps were known at one time and forgoten or suppressed. Another Tesla type (way outside the box)
Mr Keshe views on science is profound and if proven to be true will rewrite science
as we know it. The feeling I get is everything is connected and if you know how to create the right conditions you can cure anything. Create and move mater. Etc....
What I like most about his message is he wants to share all his work with the world!

[Nick Matkin]

So... are we really, Really, REALLY going to see something from Keshe early in 2014? If not then perhaps it's time to call it a day. I mean, how many release dates have to be missed before someone has the guts to stand up and shout "this is all bollocks!"

Nick

[aviators]

[QUOTE=Nick Matkin;775787]So... are we really, Really, REALLY going to see something from Keshe early in 2014? If not then perhaps it's time to call it a day. I mean, how many release dates have to be missed before someone has the guts to stand up and shout "this is all bollocks!"

Nick[/t QUOTE]

Well I agree seting dates that don't come true is a let down. No one wants to be let down over and over.
I believe this technology exist. Most likely ancient civilizations had it at some point Even here on earth. If all party's get it we will have to work together and not weaponize It. So let's hope 2014 is the year! man needs some help though.

[Nick Matkin]

All that Keshe have to do is demonstrate a small version. For goodness sake if they can do this stuff at 4 kW then how about something that produces just a few watts? Let physicist examine it close up to satisfy themselves it's not a hoax. Easy-peasy if they really can do what they claim. But, no. Nothing.

And if any of this over-unity/free energy was real, don't you think by now some maverick students in some university would have made themselves famous by demonstrating it? I'm sure they'd be more than happy with just the fame of releasing the information to the world and to hell with the consequences. So why hasn't it happened?

Well, perhaps it's because:

1) Students believe it's impossible so haven't even tried. But just a minute; students achieve all sorts of stuff that their elders say is 'impossible'. That's what students are good at.

2) They are all terrified that if they do it 'The Powers That Be' will destroy them and all their work. Well, I think bright students could organise their work and the release of data on such a scale that 'The Powers That Be' would be helpless.

3) Young physics students 'discover' the technology regularly, but always get bought off so it's never publicly revealed. You believe that ...?

4) The technology is so advanced that mere physics students don't have access to the knowledge or materials to make it work. This I could believe. But the hundreds of free energy websites and videos suggest it's the sort of thing you can do at home. Just look up the Henderson Generator - and that's just one.

No, sorry. I really doubt that his sort of thing could be hidden and not rediscovered by scientists somewhere, like, say... North Korea?

Nick

[RMorgan]

Well...Everything indicates that Keshe is a snake oil salesman...There are just too many lies and suspicious events in his "career"...Too many to go unnoticed.

Honestly, I don't even know how he managed to gather followers without ever showing even something remotely close to evidence about his "work".

If you're interested in "free" energy devices, stay tuned to Andrea Rossi and his e-cat device; He's much closer to making really efficient energy a reality.

[aviators]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)

No, sorry. I really doubt that his sort of thing could be hidden and not rediscovered by scientists somewhere, like, say... North Korea?

Nick

Good post and discussion. We are rediscovering hidden technology all the time now.It is much harder to keep the lid on with the internet. Just look at the rediscovery of the Bosnia pyramids. Much larger and older than Giza.
Shirley a technology we don't see being used today. So have we lost past technology ?
Some say Nikola Tesla wanted to share his work with the world and only a small fraction made it to the public.
I'm sure some at the time said he was crazy. Could Mr. Keshe really have something? I don't know?
He sounds like a brilliant man. If you listen to the skipe cast above (sorry its so long) he explained how Iran tried to conform to the UN's transparency request on nuclear energy until there scientist started getting killed one by one. No wounder Iran doesn't want to play by the rules now.

So the question for me is not if its possible,but when are we going to see it? Hopefully soon!
Every week I drive on the highway and think to myself "this is insane"