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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    Dots to connect ....

    USA wants (needs) Alberta tar sands oil. People don't want more pipelines, because they are generally an ecological nightmare. Groups and the public have spoken.
    How does the oil move now? By train. I saw Obama recently having the costs of oil transport by train vs pipeline be looked at for consideration into the debate.
    Quebec oil train magically derails, explodes, and kills 40 people and causes an ecological disaster in the wake of Obama's cost investigation order.

    Big oil 1 point, everyone else 0, with 40 people sacrificed for rich peoples business ventures ...

    My 2 cents.

    We really need free energy ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Dots to connect ....

    USA wants (needs) Alberta tar sands oil. People don't want more pipelines, because they are generally an ecological nightmare. Groups and the public have spoken.
    How does the oil move now? By train. I saw Obama recently having the costs of oil transport by train vs pipeline be looked at for consideration into the debate.
    Quebec oil train magically derails, explodes, and kills 40 people and causes an ecological disaster in the wake of Obama's cost investigation order.

    Big oil 1 point, everyone else 0, with 40 people sacrificed for rich peoples business ventures ...

    My 2 cents.

    We really need free energy ...
    thank you for putting this into context for us.
    I knew something seemed wrong about it all.

    we are being herded and blinded by political manipulators.

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

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    Lots of train, bridge, industrial, oil related disasters lately imo
    Are you aware of the serious infrastructure problems we face in this country? There is no malicious intent here that I see only a lack to maintain proper structure.
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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    In that case, perhaps our country might consider cutting back the war budget and repairing our bridges.

    There are people who are paid to maintain these things and we are approaching a level of criminal negligence that boggles most American minds.

    like that bridge on I-5 that collapsed a bit ago. Who was responsible to fix that?



    Anyhow, maybe we'll make enough breakthroughs in 3D printing and such, that formerly expensive structures will become child's play to produce and maintain.

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/30/us/nor...html?hpt=hp_t2

    North Dakota train wreck ignites oil cars
    By Steve Almasy, CNN
    updated 6:48 PM EST, Mon December 30, 2013


    (CNN) -- A wreck involving two trains, one of which was carrying oil, sparked a large fire that sent huge flames and dangerous smoke into the sky, North Dakota authorities said.

    There were no reports of injuries from the accident, said Sgt. Tara Morris with the Cass County Sheriff's Office, but "with the oil on fire there are hazardous conditions, and we are directing all people in the area to shelter in-place and stay indoors."

    The incident occurred near Casselton, a town of 2,300 residents about 25 miles west of Fargo. Huge plumes of smoke could be seen for miles, according to CNN affiliate KVLY.
    There is a Code Red alert for people who are within a 2-mile radius of the fire, the station said.

    KVLY reported that the wind was out of the northwest, so the smoke may miss Casselton.

    Morris said it was unclear how the accident happened and authorities are trying to determine whether one of the trains derailed before they collided.
    About 10 of the cars on the train carrying oil were fully engulfed in flames. At least a dozen firefighters are involved, she said.

    An official with the Federal Railroad Administration said it will support a National Transportation Safety Board investigation of the accident.
    CNN's Aaron Cooper and Carma Hassan contributed to this report.

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    Quote Posted by Tesla_WTC_Solution (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Dots to connect ....

    USA wants (needs) Alberta tar sands oil. People don't want more pipelines, because they are generally an ecological nightmare. Groups and the public have spoken.
    How does the oil move now? By train. I saw Obama recently having the costs of oil transport by train vs pipeline be looked at for consideration into the debate.
    Quebec oil train magically derails, explodes, and kills 40 people and causes an ecological disaster in the wake of Obama's cost investigation order.

    Big oil 1 point, everyone else 0, with 40 people sacrificed for rich peoples business ventures ...

    My 2 cents.

    We really need free energy ...
    thank you for putting this into context for us.
    I knew something seemed wrong about it all.

    we are being herded and blinded by political manipulators.
    To blow the dust off this comment from way back (since I see you dusted off the thread), The train that exploded in Quebec has all sorts of mystery surrounding it. It was an American transport company that owned the train, the was some lack of clarity surrounding who the owner was and who showed "pay" for the damages.

    Shortly after, I read in some local media about an investigation that was taking place into that accident. The investigators found that the oil should not have exploded as it did -- oil tends to burns slowly, and that they found residues of an accelerant and/or solvent all over the scene. They were about to take their findings to officials last I heard, then nothing. Not a peep further ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    It sounds a lot like how they show pipelines being compromised in James Bond: a "pig" with explosives etc. can be passed through an oil or gas pipeline very easily.

    The same plot could be used on a train, i.e. filling an oil or gas train with illegal substances in order to worsen an explosion

    Anyone still tracking Nabucco implosion/TANAP developments? Darn BP...

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/31...in-derailment/

    Evacuation lifted for Casselton, ND following fiery train derailment
    Published December 31, 2013FoxNews.com

    CASSELTON, N.D. – A southeastern North Dakota town narrowly escaped tragedy when a train carrying crude oil derailed and exploded nearby, the mayor said Tuesday, calling for changes in how the fuel is transported across the United States.

    No one was hurt in Monday's derailment of the mile-long train that sent a great fireball and plumes of black smoke skyward about a mile from the small town of Casselton. The fire had been so intense as darkness fell that investigators couldn't get close enough to count the number of burning cars.

    Worries about the smoke plume prompted officials to ask Casselton's 2,400 residents to voluntarily evacuate Monday evening, and most did. The recommendation was lifted Tuesday afternoon, but officials were urging residents south of the derailment to remain vigilant about changing conditions, Cass County Commissioner Ken Pawluk said.

    Residents said the blasts endured for hours after the derailment, shaking their homes and businesses. A BNSF spokeswoman said 18 tanker cars burned.

    Pawluk estimated that the fire was about 80 to 90 percent burned out by Tuesday afternoon.

    National Transportation Safety Board officials on the scene said the agency's investigation would examine the train recorder, the signal system, the condition of the train operators, train and tracks, as well as the response to the derailment.

    Board member Robert Sumwalt said the tankers involved were DOT-111s, a model that has shown a tendency to rupture in other accidents, but he said it wasn't immediately clear if they were newer, safer DOT-111s or the older models.

    The rail tracks run straight through the middle of Casselton, a town of 2,400 people about 25 miles west of Fargo. Mayor Ed McConnell estimated that dozens of people could have been killed if the derailments had happened within the town. He said it is time to "have a conversation" with federal lawmakers about the dangers of transporting oil by rail.

    "There have been numerous derailments in this area," he told The Associated Press. "It's almost gotten to the point that it looks like not if we're going to have an accident, it's when. We dodged a bullet by having it out of town, but this is too close for comfort."

    A train carrying crude from North Dakota's Bakken oil patch crashed in Quebec last summer, bursting into flames and killing 47 people.

    Shipping oil by pipeline has to be a safer option, McConnell said Tuesday.

    North Dakota is the No. 2 oil-producing state in the U.S., trailing only Texas. The state's top oil regulator said earlier this month that he expected as much as 90 percent of North Dakota's oil to be carried by train in 2014, up from 60 percent.

    Ron Ness, president of the North Dakota Petroleum Council, called the derailment "extremely unfortunate."

    "We're glad no one was hurt," said Ness, whose Bismarck-based group represents several hundred companies working in the state's oil patch. "I certainly think we'll see some continued efforts on safety to the rail system and rail cars."

    North Dakota oil drillers increasingly use trains to ship crude to locations not served by pipelines, in part because of the difficulty in securing permits for the structures, Ness said.


    "For every action, there is a reaction or counter-action," he said. "Getting any product to market from North Dakota always has been a challenge, whether it is oil, sugar beets or beef. And we have been able to find good markets because the rail industry has responded."

    The number of crude oil carloads hauled by U.S. railroads surged from 10,840 in 2009 to a projected 400,000 this year. Despite the increase, the rate of accidents has stayed relatively steady. Railroads say 99.997 percent of hazardous materials shipments reach destinations safely.

    Authorities haven't yet been able to untangle exactly what caused the derailment. BNSF spokeswoman Amy McBeth said another train carrying grain derailed first, and that this knocked several cars of the oil train off adjoining tracks.

    BNSF said each train comprised more than 100 cars.

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    P.s.

    did you know BP was the reason = THE REASON = we "hate" communists in USA?

    just read this:

    Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company

    Coup[edit]
    Main article: 1953 Iranian coup d'état
    Britain was unable to subvert Mossadegh as its embassy and officials had been evicted from Iran in October 1952, but successfully appealed in the U.S. to exaggerated anti-communist sentiments, depicting both Mossadegh and Iran as unstable and likely to fall to communism in their weakened state. If Iran fell, the "enormous assets" of "Iranian oil production and reserves" would fall into Communist control, as would "in short order the other areas of the Middle East".[19] By 1953 both the US and the UK had new, more anti-communist and interventionist administrations and the United States no longer opposed intervention in Iran.

    The anti-Mossadeq plan was orchestrated under the code-name 'Operation Ajax' by CIA, and 'Operation Boot' by SIS (MI6).[20][21][22] In August the American CIA with the help of bribes to politicians, soldiers, mobs, and newspapers, and information from the British embassy and secret service, organized a riot which gave the Shah an excuse to remove Mosaddeq.

    The Shah seized the opportunity and issued an edict forcefully removing the immensely popular and democratically-elected Mosaddeq from power when General Fazlollah Zahedi led tanks to Mosaddeq's residence and arrested him. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to death but his sentence was later commuted to three years' solitary confinement in a military prison followed by life in prison. He was kept under house arrest at his Ahmadabad residence, until his death, on 5 March 1967.[23][24][25][26]

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    Default Re: Two Train Collisions, Two Bridge Collapses, Within One Week. BADLY BUILT?

    Posted this in another thread about similar events:

    .....Atlas shrugged.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/31...in-derailment/

    Evacuation lifted for Casselton, ND following fiery train derailment
    Published December 31, 2013FoxNews.com

    CASSELTON, N.D. – A southeastern North Dakota town narrowly escaped tragedy when a train carrying crude oil derailed and exploded nearby, the mayor said Tuesday, calling for changes in how the fuel is transported across the United States.[..]
    Also in Current News great minds think alike - thanks for the updates

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