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    Article from Reuters on contractors recruiting homeless people to work at Fukushima and how criminal gangs control labour in the Japanese construction industry...

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    Special Report: Japan's homeless recruited for murky Fukushima clean-up
    By Mari Saito and Antoni Slodkowski. December 30th, 2013.


    Seiji Sasa hits the train station in this northern Japanese city before dawn most mornings to prowl for homeless men.

    He isn't a social worker. He's a recruiter. The men in Sendai Station are potential laborers that Sasa can dispatch to contractors in Japan's nuclear disaster zone for a bounty of $100 a head.

    "This is how labor recruiters like me come in every day," Sasa says, as he strides past men sleeping on cardboard and clutching at their coats against the early winter cold.

    It's also how Japan finds people willing to accept minimum wage for one of the most undesirable jobs in the industrialized world: working on the $35 billion, taxpayer-funded effort to clean up radioactive fallout across an area of northern Japan larger than Hong Kong.

    Almost three years ago, a massive earthquake and tsunami leveled villages across Japan's northeast coast and set off multiple meltdowns at the Fukushima nuclear plant. Today, the most ambitious radiation clean-up ever attempted is running behind schedule. The effort is being dogged by both a lack of oversight and a shortage of workers, according to a Reuters analysis of contracts and interviews with dozens of those involved.

    In January, October and November, Japanese gangsters were arrested on charges of infiltrating construction giant Obayashi Corp's network of decontamination subcontractors and illegally sending workers to the government-funded project.

    In the October case, homeless men were rounded up at Sendai's train station by Sasa, then put to work clearing radioactive soil and debris in Fukushima City for less than minimum wage, according to police and accounts of those involved. The men reported up through a chain of three other companies to Obayashi, Japan's second-largest construction company.

    Obayashi, which is one of more than 20 major contractors involved in government-funded radiation removal projects, has not been accused of any wrongdoing. But the spate of arrests has shown that members of Japan's three largest criminal syndicates - Yamaguchi-gumi, Sumiyoshi-kai and Inagawa-kai - had set up black-market recruiting agencies under Obayashi.

    "We are taking it very seriously that these incidents keep happening one after another," said Junichi Ichikawa, a spokesman for Obayashi. He said the company tightened its scrutiny of its lower-tier subcontractors in order to shut out gangsters, known as the yakuza. "There were elements of what we had been doing that did not go far enough."

    OVERSIGHT LEFT TO TOP CONTRACTORS

    Part of the problem in monitoring taxpayer money in Fukushima is the sheer number of companies involved in decontamination, extending from the major contractors at the top to tiny subcontractors many layers below them. The total number has not been announced. But in the 10 most contaminated towns and a highway that runs north past the gates of the wrecked plant in Fukushima, Reuters found 733 companies were performing work for the Ministry of Environment, according to partial contract terms released by the ministry in August under Japan's information disclosure law.

    Reuters found 56 subcontractors listed on environment ministry contracts worth a total of $2.5 billion in the most radiated areas of Fukushima that would have been barred from traditional public works because they had not been vetted by the construction ministry.

    The 2011 law that regulates decontamination put control under the environment ministry, the largest spending program ever managed by the 10-year-old agency. The same law also effectively loosened controls on bidders, making it possible for firms to win radiation removal contracts without the basic disclosure and certification required for participating in public works such as road construction.

    Reuters also found five firms working for the Ministry of Environment that could not be identified. They had no construction ministry registration, no listed phone number or website, and Reuters could not find a basic corporate registration disclosing ownership. There was also no record of the firms in the database of Japan's largest credit research firm, Teikoku Databank.

    "As a general matter, in cases like this, we would have to start by looking at whether a company like this is real," said Shigenobu Abe, a researcher at Teikoku Databank. "After that, it would be necessary to look at whether this is an active company and at the background of its executive and directors."

    Responsibility for monitoring the hiring, safety records and suitability of hundreds of small firms involved in Fukushima's decontamination rests with the top contractors, including Kajima Corp, Taisei Corp and Shimizu Corp, officials said.

    "In reality, major contractors manage each work site," said Hide Motonaga, deputy director of the radiation clean-up division of the environment ministry.

    But, as a practical matter, many of the construction companies involved in the clean-up say it is impossible to monitor what is happening on the ground because of the multiple layers of contracts for each job that keep the top contractors removed from those doing the work.

    "If you started looking at every single person, the project wouldn't move forward. You wouldn't get a tenth of the people you need," said Yukio Suganuma, president of Aisogo Service, a construction company that was hired in 2012 to clean up radioactive fallout from streets in the town of Tamura.

    The sprawl of small firms working in Fukushima is an unintended consequence of Japan's legacy of tight labor-market regulations combined with the aging population's deepening shortage of workers. Japan's construction companies cannot afford to keep a large payroll and dispatching temporary workers to construction sites is prohibited. As a result, smaller firms step into the gap, promising workers in exchange for a cut of their wages.

    Below these official subcontractors, a shadowy network of gangsters and illegal brokers who hire homeless men has also become active in Fukushima. Ministry of Environment contracts in the most radioactive areas of Fukushima prefecture are particularly lucrative because the government pays an additional $100 in hazard allowance per day for each worker.

    Takayoshi Igarashi, a lawyer and professor at Hosei University, said the initial rush to find companies for decontamination was understandable in the immediate aftermath of the disaster when the priority was emergency response. But he said the government now needs to tighten its scrutiny to prevent a range of abuses, including bid rigging.

    "There are many unknown entities getting involved in decontamination projects," said Igarashi, a former advisor to ex-Prime Minister Naoto Kan. "There needs to be a thorough check on what companies are working on what, and when. I think it's probably completely lawless if the top contractors are not thoroughly checking."

    The Ministry of Environment announced on Thursday that work on the most contaminated sites would take two to three years longer than the original March 2014 deadline. That means many of the more than 60,000 who lived in the area before the disaster will remain unable to return home until six years after the disaster.

    Earlier this month, Abe, who pledged his government would "take full responsibility for the rebirth of Fukushima" boosted the budget for decontamination to $35 billion, including funds to create a facility to store radioactive soil and other waste near the wrecked nuclear plant.

    ‘DON'T ASK QUESTIONS'

    Japan has always had a gray market of day labor centered in Tokyo and Osaka. A small army of day laborers was employed to build the stadiums and parks for the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo. But over the past year, Sendai, the biggest city in the disaster zone, has emerged as a hiring hub for homeless men. Many work clearing rubble left behind by the 2011 tsunami and cleaning up radioactive hotspots by removing topsoil, cutting grass and scrubbing down houses around the destroyed nuclear plant, workers and city officials say.

    Seiji Sasa, 67, a broad-shouldered former wrestling promoter, was photographed by undercover police recruiting homeless men at the Sendai train station to work in the nuclear cleanup. The workers were then handed off through a chain of companies reporting up to Obayashi, as part of a $1.4 million contract to decontaminate roads in Fukushima, police say.

    "I don't ask questions; that's not my job," Sasa said in an interview with Reuters. "I just find people and send them to work. I send them and get money in exchange. That's it. I don't get involved in what happens after that."

    Only a third of the money allocated for wages by Obayashi's top contractor made it to the workers Sasa had found. The rest was skimmed by middlemen, police say. After deductions for food and lodging, that left workers with an hourly rate of about $6, just below the minimum wage equal to about $6.50 per hour in Fukushima, according to wage data provided by police. Some of the homeless men ended up in debt after fees for food and housing were deducted, police say.

    Sasa was arrested in November and released without being charged. Police were after his client, Mitsunori Nishimura, a local Inagawa-kai gangster. Nishimura housed workers in cramped dorms on the edge of Sendai and skimmed an estimated $10,000 of public funding intended for their wages each month, police say.

    Nishimura, who could not be reached for comment, was arrested and paid a $2,500 fine. Nishimura is widely known in Sendai. Seiryu Home, a shelter funded by the city, had sent other homeless men to work for him on recovery jobs after the 2011 disaster.

    "He seemed like such a nice guy," said Yota Iozawa, a shelter manager. "It was bad luck. I can't investigate everything about every company."

    In the incident that prompted his arrest, Nishimura placed his workers with Shinei Clean, a company with about 15 employees based on a winding farm road south of Sendai. Police turned up there to arrest Shinei's president, Toshiaki Osada, after a search of his office, according to Tatsuya Shoji, who is both Osada's nephew and a company manager. Shinei had sent dump trucks to sort debris from the disaster. "Everyone is involved in sending workers," said Shoji. "I guess we just happened to get caught this time."

    Osada, who could not be reached for comment, was fined about $5,000. Shinei was also fined about $5,000.

    'RUN BY GANGS'

    The trail from Shinei led police to a slightly larger neighboring company with about 30 employees, Fujisai Couken. Fujisai says it was under pressure from a larger contractor, Raito Kogyo, to provide workers for Fukushima. Kenichi Sayama, Fujisai's general manger, said his company only made about $10 per day per worker it outsourced. When the job appeared to be going too slowly, Fujisai asked Shinei for more help and they turned to Nishimura.

    A Fujisai manager, Fuminori Hayashi, was arrested and paid a $5,000 fine, police said. Fujisai also paid a $5,000 fine.

    "If you don't get involved (with gangs), you're not going to get enough workers," said Sayama, Fujisai's general manager. "The construction industry is 90 percent run by gangs."

    Raito Kogyo, a top-tier subcontractor to Obayashi, has about 300 workers in decontamination projects around Fukushima and owns subsidiaries in both Japan and the United States. Raito agreed that the project faced a shortage of workers but said it had been deceived. Raito said it was unaware of a shadow contractor under Fujisai tied to organized crime.

    "We can only check on lower-tier subcontractors if they are honest with us," said Tomoyuki Yamane, head of marketing for Raito. Raito and Obayashi were not accused of any wrongdoing and were not penalized.

    Other firms receiving government contracts in the decontamination zone have hired homeless men from Sasa, including Shuto Kogyo, a firm based in Himeji, western Japan.

    "He sends people in, but they don't stick around for long," said Fujiko Kaneda, 70, who runs Shuto with her son, Seiki Shuto. "He gathers people in front of the station and sends them to our dorm."

    Kaneda invested about $600,000 to cash in on the reconstruction boom. Shuto converted an abandoned roadhouse north of Sendai into a dorm to house workers on reconstruction jobs such as clearing tsunami debris. The company also won two contracts awarded by the Ministry of Environment to clean up two of the most heavily contaminated townships.

    Kaneda had been arrested in 2009 along with her son, Seiki, for charging illegally high interest rates on loans to pensioners. Kaneda signed an admission of guilt for police, a document she says she did not understand, and paid a fine of $8,000. Seiki was given a sentence of two years prison time suspended for four years and paid a $20,000 fine, according to police. Seiki declined to comment.

    UNPAID WAGE CLAIMS

    In Fukushima, Shuto has faced at least two claims with local labor regulators over unpaid wages, according to Kaneda. In a separate case, a 55-year-old homeless man reported being paid the equivalent of $10 for a full month of work at Shuto. The worker's paystub, reviewed by Reuters, showed charges for food, accommodation and laundry were docked from his monthly pay equivalent to about $1,500, leaving him with $10 at the end of the August.

    The man turned up broke and homeless at Sendai Station in October after working for Shuto, but disappeared soon afterwards, according to Yasuhiro Aoki, a Baptist pastor and homeless advocate.

    Kaneda confirmed the man had worked for her but said she treats her workers fairly. She said Shuto Kogyo pays workers at least $80 for a day's work while docking the equivalent of $35 for food. Many of her workers end up borrowing from her to make ends meet, she said. One of them had owed her $20,000 before beginning work in Fukushima, she says. The balance has come down recently, but then he borrowed another $2,000 for the year-end holidays.

    "He will never be able to pay me back," she said.

    The problem of workers running themselves into debt is widespread. "Many homeless people are just put into dormitories, and the fees for lodging and food are automatically docked from their wages," said Aoki, the pastor. "Then at the end of the month, they're left with no pay at all."

    Shizuya Nishiyama, 57, says he briefly worked for Shuto clearing rubble. He now sleeps on a cardboard box in Sendai Station. He says he left after a dispute over wages, one of several he has had with construction firms, including two handling decontamination jobs.

    Nishiyama's first employer in Sendai offered him $90 a day for his first job clearing tsunami debris. But he was made to pay as much as $50 a day for food and lodging. He also was not paid on the days he was unable to work. On those days, though, he would still be charged for room and board. He decided he was better off living on the street than going into debt.

    "We're an easy target for recruiters," Nishiyama said. "We turn up here with all our bags, wheeling them around and we're easy to spot. They say to us, are you looking for work? Are you hungry? And if we haven't eaten, they offer to find us a job."

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    Quote Posted by panopticon (here)
    There is also the potential of a false flag operation around the removal process. The risk of terrorist strikes has been mentioned on a number of occasions in press releases from TEPCO, Japan's Nuclear Agency and Government.
    -- Pan
    I think the Fukushima topic has lost traction, (again, let me emphasis "think"; since I don't watch TV anymore I could be wrong) it doesn't seem to be getting play anymore and it didn't cause much of a reaction in the main stream; so much like the push to go to war with Syria it apparently has been dropped as a focal point.

    I predict fukushima gets resolved (at great cost, since that's what nuclear regulation is mostly about), and slowly fades away to a "nothing to see here" situation.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I think the Fukushima topic has lost traction, (again, let me emphasis "think"; since I don't watch TV anymore I could be wrong) it doesn't seem to be getting play anymore and it didn't cause much of a reaction in the main stream; so much like the push to go to war with Syria it apparently has been dropped as a focal point.

    I predict fukushima gets resolved (at great cost, since that's what nuclear regulation is mostly about), and slowly fades away to a "nothing to see here" situation.
    Yeah, I agree with you Target. That's why those who have the most to lose have been trying to make a recurrent mystery steam leak into the end of the world. I get a bit frustrated when suddenly people are running around waving their arms in the air or covering themselves in ashes talking about the end of the world. There are real problems that need to be looked at and mentioned in relation to Fukushima Daiichi and most of those have very little to do with radiation levels (though some exist because of them) and more to do with the problems we've already talked about in relation to the government, nuclear agency, corporation, contractors and workers.

    At the end of all this, when the melted cores are confirmed as stabilised and water stops moving caesium etc underground into the ocean, I hope that there will be a reliable way of looking at the facts of this accident and what happened after.

    I also hope that the anonymouse youtubers who have spread so much fear and disinformation are remembered and wiped from the virtual world for good.

    Hey, a blokes gotta have dreams...

    Anyway, I'd like to thank everyone who has participated in this thread over the last 4 months and kept it on topic with only occasional moments of semi-panic interspersed with long periods of statistical reference, discussion, pertinent articles and videos. It has been a real pleasure and I hope that there will be other informative threads like it on Fukushima over the coming months and years.
    Happy New Year everyone. May you all have many more.

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    Fukushima Responders Starting To Get Sick



    Published on 29 Dec 2013


    "Within weeks of setting off a geiger counter and scrubbing three layers of skin off
    his hands and arms, former Navy quartermaster Maurice Enis recalled being
    pressured to sign away U.S. government liability for any future health problems.

    Enis and about 5,000 fellow sailors aboard the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier
    had finally left Japan, after 80-some days aiding victims of the March 11, 2011,
    Fukushima earthquake and tsunami, and were about to take a long-awaited port
    call in Thailand."

    Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03...

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    Published on 29 Dec 2013

    [...]

    Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03...
    the read more to the Huffington Post page is giving me a 404 (not found) error - do you have a revised link to the article? tnx

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    Quote Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Published on 29 Dec 2013

    [...]

    Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03...
    the read more to the Huffington Post page is giving me a 404 (not found) error - do you have a revised link to the article? tnx
    The link on the Young turk U/Tube seems to refer to an earlier article
    I cannot find on the Huffington post main page.

    There are several other links, but have not found original source.


    http://www.againstcronycapitalism.or...ncerned-video/

    http://consciouslifenews.com/fukushi...-sick/1169212/
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    Published on 29 Dec 2013

    [...]

    Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03...
    the read more to the Huffington Post page is giving me a 404 (not found) error - do you have a revised link to the article? tnx
    Is this the one you're after Bobd?

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    Fukushima And The Navy: Sailors Sue Japan Nuclear Plant Owner, Saying Disaster Made Them Sick
    by Lynne Peeples, 11th March 2013.
    Former Navy quartermaster Maurice Enis described the health problems, including hair loss, that he's suffered since working in radioactive plumes after the Fukushima disaster.

    Within weeks of setting off a geiger counter and scrubbing three layers of skin off his hands and arms, former Navy quartermaster Maurice Enis recalled being pressured to sign away U.S. government liability for any future health problems.

    Enis and about 5,000 fellow sailors aboard the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier had finally left Japan, after 80-some days aiding victims of the March 11, 2011, Fukushima earthquake and tsunami, and were about to take a long-awaited port call in Thailand.

    But first, they were told they needed to fill out some paperwork.

    "They had us sign off that we were medically fine, had no sickness, and that we couldn't sue the U.S. government," Enis told The Huffington Post, recalling widespread anger among the sailors who saw it as "B.S." but who also felt they had little choice.

    On Monday, the two-year anniversary of the Fukushima disaster, Enis joined a lawsuit with more than 100 other service members who participated in the rescue mission and who have since developed medical issues they contend are related to radioactive fallout from the disabled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Rather than targeting the U.S. government, the federal lawsuit names plant owner Tokyo Electric Power Co. the defendant.

    TEPCO, as the company is known, provided false information to U.S. officials about the extent of spreading radiation from its stricken reactors, according to Roger Witherspoon on his blog Energy Matters.

    Among the lawsuit plaintiffs is Enis' girlfriend, Jaime Plym, who also served as a quartermaster on the aircraft carrier, a position that involves guiding the ship and spending significant time on deck. The couple had been looking forward to leaving the military and starting a family. Now, Enis said, they don't know if children will be an option due to health problems they've both developed since signing away government liability. They've both been honorably discharged from the military and don't know how they will pay for medical treatment.

    Plym has a new diagnosis of asthma and her menstrual cycle is severely out of whack. Enis has lumps on his jaw, between his eyes and on his thigh. He's also developed stomach ulcers and lung problems, and is losing weight and hair.

    There's a tradition of growing out your hair and beard after leaving the Navy, explained Enis, to make up for all the time spent with a buzzed head. He said at a press conference in New York on Monday that he's hesitant to comb or wash his head of black curls lest he speed up the loss.

    It was more than a month after arriving off the coast of Japan -- and circling at distances of one to 10 miles from the crippled reactors -- when sailors aboard the carrier got word that a nuclear plant had been affected, according to Plym. "Even then, it was rumors," she said. And it wasn't until the USS Ronald Reagan had left Japan and sailors were scrubbing down the ship that they were offered radiation protection. Enis said the enlisted sailors were never offered any iodine. He said he later learned the "higher ups" -- officers and pilots -- had received the tablets to protect their thyroids from radiation damage.

    Enis said no one collected samples of sailors' blood or urine for tests. Neither Enis nor Plym have been fully evaluated by a doctor.

    In his series detailing the sailors' situation, Witherspoon highlighted questionable U.S. government decisions that followed Fukushima, such as the halt of a federal medical registry planned for nearly 70,000 American service members, civilian workers and their families who may have been exposed. The Department of Defense "concluded that their estimates of the maximum possible whole body and thyroid doses of contaminants were not severe enough to warrant further examination," Witherspoon reported.

    Without the registry, Witherspoon added, there will be "no way to determine if patterns of health problems emerge" as a result of radiation exposure among military personnel stationed in Japan, or among those just offshore with the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group 7.

    Enis recalled one day that convinced him of a connection.

    He described at the press conference retrieving the American flag that had flown atop the carrier to give to the people of Japan as a ceremonial gesture. The wind, he recalled, caused the flag to flap around his body as he brought it down by rope. Only later did he realize the flag and the rope were probably highly contaminated with radiation.

    After folding the flag, he went out to eat with his buddy. The two joked about growing extra fingers and toes, Enis said. Talk of a radiation leak had begun spreading onboard, despite being downplayed by officials. On a whim, the friends decided to get checked for radiation. His friend tested clean, but the geiger went crazy on Enis' hands.

    "Instantly, we went from smiling to just being nervous and scared," Enis recalled. "No one told me at the time what was going on."

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    Yup - that could very well be it - it looked like the link wasn't formed in the original post. Appreciate it tnx

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    There's also reference made to this NY Post report:

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    Navy sailors have radiation sickness after Japan rescue
    By Laura Italiano and Kerry Murtha. December 22nd, 2013.


    Crew members scrub contaminated snow off the deck of USS Ronald Reagan in March 2011 during a humanitarian mission off tsunami-stricken Japan.

    Navy sailor Lindsay Cooper knew something was wrong when billows of metallic-tasting snow began drifting over USS Ronald Reagan.

    “I was standing on the flight deck, and we felt this warm gust of air, and, suddenly, it was snowing,” Cooper recalled of the day in March 2011 when she and scores of crewmates watched a sudden storm blow toward them from the tsunami-torn coast of Fukushima, Japan.

    The tall 24-year-old with a winning smile didn’t know it then, but the snow was caused by the freezing Pacific air mixing with a plume of radioactive steam from the city’s shattered nuclear reactor.

    Now, nearly three years after their deployment on a humanitarian mission to Japan’s ravaged coast, Cooper and scores of her fellow crew members on the aircraft carrier and a half-dozen other support ships are battling cancers, thyroid disease, uterine bleeding and other ailments.

    “We joked about it: ‘Hey, it’s radioactive snow!’ ” Cooper recalled. “I took pictures and video.”

    But now “my thyroid is so out of whack that I can lose 60 to 70 pounds in one month and then gain it back the next,” said Cooper, fighting tears. “My menstrual cycle lasts for six months at a time, and I cannot get pregnant. It’s ruined me.”

    The fallout of those four days spent off the Fukushima coast has been tragic to many of the 5,000 sailors who were there.

    At least 70 have been stricken with some form of radiation sickness, and of those, “at least half . . . are suffering from some form of cancer,” their lawyer, Paul Garner, told The Post Saturday.

    “We’re seeing leukemia, testicular cancer and unremitting gynecological bleeding requiring transfusions and other intervention,” said Garner, who is representing 51 crew members suing the Tokyo Electric Power Co., which operates the Fukushima Daiichi energy plant.

    “Then you have thyroid polyps, other thyroid diseases,” added Garner, who plans to file an amended lawsuit in federal court in San Diego next month that will bring the number of plaintiffs past 70.

    Senior Chief Michael Sebourn, a radiation-decontamination officer, was assigned to test the aircraft carrier for radiation.

    The levels were incredibly dangerous and at one point, the radiation in the air measured 300 times higher than what was considered safe, Sebourn told The Post.

    The former personal trainer has suffered a series of ailments, starting with severe nosebleeds and headaches and continuing with debilitating weakness.

    He says he has lost 60 percent of the power in the right side of his body and his limbs have visibly shrunk.

    “I’ve had four MRIs, and I’ve been to 20 doctors,” he said. “No one can figure out what is wrong.”

    He has since retired from the Navy after 17 years of service.

    Even as the Reagan was steaming toward the disaster, power-company officials knew the cloud of steam they were releasing — in order to relieve pressure in the crippled plant — was toxic, the lawsuit argues, a claim that has also been made by the Japanese government.

    Tokyo Electric Power also knew that radioactivity was leaking at a rate of 400 tons a day into the North Pacific, according to the lawsuit and Japanese officials.

    “We were probably floating in contaminated water without knowing it for a day and a half before we got hit by that plume,” said Cooper, whose career as a third-class petty officer ended five months after the disaster for health reasons.

    The toxic seawater was sucked into the ship’s desalinization system, flowing out of its faucets and showers — still radioactive — and into the crew member’s bodies.

    “All I drink is water. You stay hydrated on that boat,” said Cooper, who worked up to 18 hours at a time on the flight deck loading supplies onto a steady stream of aid helicopters for four days, all the while drinking out of the two-gallon pouch of water hooked to her gear belt.

    By the time the Reagan realized it was contaminated and tried to shift location, the radioactive plume had spread too far to be quickly outrun.

    “We have a multimillion-dollar radiation-detection system, but . . . it takes time to be set up and activated,” Cooper said.

    “And then we couldn’t go anywhere. Japan didn’t want us in port, Korea didn’t want us, Guam turned us away. We floated in the water for two and a half months,” until Thailand took them in, she said.

    All the while crew members had been suffering from excruciating diarrhea.

    “People were s- -tting themselves in the hallways,” Cooper recalled.

    “Two weeks after that, my lymph nodes in my neck were swollen. By July, my thyroid shut down.”

    Cooper, the single mother of a 4-year-old girl named Serenity, says her biggest worry is that she will get cancer. Her own mother died recently of breast cancer at age 53.

    “This isn’t about financial gain,” Cooper said of the lawsuit. “This is about what’s going to happen while I’m sick, and then after I’m gone.”

    “I worry,” she added, her voice choking, “because I have a daughter. And I’m so sick.”

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    For those who might be interested in the 26th November 2013 ruling on the initial 'Cooper et al v. Tokyo Electric Power Company, Inc. et al' case, by Judge Janis L. Sammartino, it can be found here:

    http://media.utsandiego.com/news/doc...2/17/TEPCO.pdf

    The refiling will extend the plaintiff list and endeavour to overcome jurisdictional problems used to dismiss the original case.

    BTW, the image of "snow" that appears in the video and the article looks more like detergent used to scrub the deck. Here's another angle of the same thing.



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    Interview/comments from USS Ronald Reagan personnel & lawyers acting on their behalf:


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    Quote Posted by panopticon (here)
    BTW, the image of "snow" that appears in the video and the article looks more like detergent used to scrub the deck. Here's another angle of the same thing.

    -- Pan

    Kind of makes you wonder about these sources eh? (it was detergent, there was no snow.. they tried to decontaminate the deck with soap).

    as to: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DSz1wGc1PcU

    and these claims about a dozen or less people being involved in this (not even all of them from the same boat.. we don't even know the location or exposure of these other ships) and the claim that a sailor is blind and has a brain tumor, all the issues he mentions...

    well he clearly outlines his use of the logical fallacy "Correlation does not equate to causation" that these medical issues (none seem to be the same) are "have to be" due to fukushima because they "don't have a family history" of them; at this point I honestly question the whole issue. The lawyers even admit that the exposure was low dose radiation,though they caviot that it was "repeated over days".

    This interview, at about 6:00 really shows what this whole situation is about; there is a reservist marine telling the camera that they replaced entire engines because they shows radio active, he guessed that personally he replaced 16 engines.. that's MILLIONS of dollars.

    Fukushima was a money grab for the military industrial complex, and TEPCO has offices in Washington DC as well? GEE what a coincidence..

    The lawyers go on to say at 10:04 "what we do know, is that the only standard that has been accepted world wide is that there's no safe level of radiation" HOLY CRAP, SOMEONE TELL HIM HE'S STANDING DIRECTLY IN SOLAR RADIATION WHILE GIVING THIS SPEECH! (he even has sunglasses on...)

    "we could tell there was a plum because there was some warm air" and "it tasted like aluminum foil" and "we were being chased by a death sentence" ..... this whole video just makes me



    and of course the video wraps up with the logical fallacy : Appeal to emotion.

    Is this suppose to work, are we this easily manipulated?
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    Thanks Targe , Pan and others for keeping this thread up to date. I don't know if
    this is scare mongering or that the levels of radiation will be diluted in sea and
    atmosphere, but worth monitoring the situation.

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    36 Signs The Media Is Lying To You About How Radiation From Fukushima Is Affecting The West Coast, USA

    Thursday 2nd January 2014 at 04:42 By David Icke





    ‘The west coast of the United States is being absolutely fried by radiation from the
    Fukushima nuclear disaster, and the mainstream media is not telling us the truth
    about this. What you are about to see is a collection of evidence that is quite startling.

    Taken collectively, this body of evidence shows that nuclear radiation from
    Fukushima is affecting sea life in the Pacific Ocean and animal life along the west
    coast of North America in some extraordinary ways. But the mainstream media
    continues to insist that we don’t have a thing to worry about. The mainstream
    media continues to insist that radiation levels in the Pacific and along the west
    coast are perfectly safe. Are they lying to us? Evaluate the evidence compiled
    below and come to your own conclusions…’



    Read more: 36 Signs The Media Is Lying To You About How Radiation From
    Fukushima Is Affecting The West Coast, USA

    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/36-si...t-coast_012014

    Fukushima radiation hits San Francisco! (Dec 2013)



    Published on 24 Dec 2013


    This shocking video was taken December 23rd 2013 with a quality Geiger Counter
    south of Pacifica State Beach (Surfers Beach) California.

    Background radiation reading is 30 CPM. Near the ocean it's 150 CPM. The moister
    coming from the ocean waves seems to be what makes the Geiger Counter jump up
    5X. This is not normal at all. More thorough readings need to be done. Where is the
    useless government/media? Thanks to rense.com for originally publishing this video.

    Location:
    https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Half+Mo...

    more details on U/Tube
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    Fukushima: Global Elite Political Theater

    Thursday 2nd January 2014 at 04:42 By David Icke




    ‘Something is far beyond contaminated and glow-fishy about the Fukushima
    meltdown. For two years it has been discussed and swarming with expertise, but
    with no limiting or actual efforts to stop the radiological contaminants from being
    released into the Pacific and all other connected oceans, the largest food and
    oxygen sources on the planet. Yet, surfers are surfing, swimmers are swimming,
    children are playing on beaches, and restaurants all over the earth are eating
    Pacific fish and also contaminated Atlantic fish according to multiple reports.

    Also never actually disclosed or addressed is that perhaps as many as 1500 nukes
    have been tested in the world’s oceans, which also might have
    produced “contamination” since nuclear pollution doesn’t ever really go away. So,
    at this juncture I ask myself, where is the left hand and what might it be doing?
    Politics, as we know, has new meaning in the global world of corporate-political
    elites. Their political intentions were always based in deceptions from the earliest
    planning stages to today, for one hundred if not two hundred years. The UN Agenda
    21 blueprint has never been fully disclosed in truth or in the open.’

    The 47 U.S. Biosphere Reserves are still completely under the veil for 90% of
    American people who have still never heard of them; same with the World Heritage
    Sites, and they are totally in the dark regarding the 620+ global reserves.
    Stratospheric Aerial Geoengineering and Solar Radiation Management
    (chemtrailing) are only just now kind of/sort of acknowledged as “possibly”
    damaging the planet for 35 years or more as well as the super-secret global HAARP
    facilities, which happen to super-heat the atmosphere, while aerial spraying traps
    the “warming” on the ground beneath the artificial, metallized, and very noxious
    and debilitating clouds and haze that laid across the skies, globally. And suddenly,
    we have another global crisis, publicized, with people sick, dying badly, and with
    sea life really, really sick and dying, and with worsening news and contamination
    pouring into the Pacific every day. Instead, a handful of “experts” are studying,
    having meetings and press conferences, pondering, coordinating thoughts and
    ideas, kicking the dirt, etc., etc. What we are witnessing is political theater. The
    problem is we, too, are getting sicker and sicker. Fukushima is, after all, not just an
    oceanic problem. Radioactive ocean water evaporates and rains down…on
    everything…over the entire planet, and it just so happens that the nano-particulates
    of aluminum, barium, strontium and other concoctions sprayed from jets and
    commercial planes, globally, also rain down, blow in the wind…nano-sized mind
    you…which means their ingredients are wholly and completely unavoidable. Even
    your N95 masks, coats, gloves, hats and safety glasses cannot protect you, and
    these nano-particles are in your homes, your cars, all over your children, stores,
    pets, possessions, lawns, trees, forests, in all watershed systems, and all over the
    nation and world’s crop fields (think Monsanto “aluminum resistant” seeds).
    Consider well the over 1400 global seed vaults. I fear we are experiencing a double-
    whammy. I am also thinking that a “global” crisis or crises are forthcoming, which
    will put “global” power centers front and center and in full-force all over the entire
    world. I equally think that global health may be collapsing as we speak, as global
    nature is demonstrating. Billions of fish and sea creatures dying, billions of birds,
    hundreds of trillions of insects and amphibians, and even large sea and forest
    mammals, far larger than human beings, are dying all around the world…and badly.
    Hundreds of millions of forested acres are burning, annually and globally, while
    global aquifers are being privatized and locked down from most of humanity.
    Depopulation was always part and parcel of the original plan by globalism’s
    authors, and certainly a mass die-off of humanity cannot appear as genocide or
    democide in a mass-media whistleblowing world, not when the orchestrators are so
    terribly few, but a left-right punch from global catastrophic “events”, especially
    ones we choose to ignore with our best ignorance, could be our undoing. When we
    choose to ignore Fukushima and allow governments to ignore mass-
    extinction “events”, and when we steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that we are
    sprayed like insects for 35+ years, seeing it above our heads for days and weeks
    on end, because we “don’t want to think about it,” well…maybe we prove what
    elites have always believed, that we are “useless”, “ignorant”, “costly”, and “too
    common” for their many bottom lines. As history has demonstrated century after
    century after century, when there are too many poor people, human culling occurs,
    which means they are murdered. I fear history, once again, is upon us. When
    whales, dolphins, deer and trillions of other animals and mammals and plants are
    biting the dust and all at the same time, we’re next…especially because we eat
    these plants and animals, actually resulting in a third-whammy to humankind.
    Truth is, folks, we are being in-toxic-acted from every direction humanly possible.
    What is happening to the world is not an accident. We are getting hit from all
    angles. - See more at: http://govtslaves.info/global-elite-....lnaqwZLS.dpuf



    Read more …

    http://govtslaves.info/global-elite-political-theater/
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    Posting it here as well:

    U.S. government orders 14 million doses of potassium iodide


    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
    FBO.gov, Fri, 06 Dec 2013 15:35 CST



    © Seerpress, Potassium Iodide

    Solicitation Number: 14-284-SOL-0015A

    Notice Type: Combined Synopsis/Solicitation Synopsis:
    Added: Dec 06, 2013 3:35 pm (i)

    This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for a commercial item prepared in accordance with FAR Subpart 12.6, as supplemented with additional information in this notice.

    This announcement constitutes the only solicitation; proposals are being requested and a written solicitation will not be issued.

    (ii) The solicitation number is 14-284-SOL-0015A. This solicitation is issued as an Request for Quote (RFQ).

    (iii) The corresponding NAICS code is 325412 and the small business standard size is 750 employees.

    (iv) The contract line item number, item, quantity and unit of measure is:

    Line No. 001; potassium iodide tablet, 65mg, unit dose package of 20s; 700,000 packages (of 20s)

    (v) Delivery is required on or before February 1, 2014.
    Delivery will be made to:
    DHHS, SSC
    Bldg #5 Receiving Dock
    Perry Point,MD 21902

    (vi) The provisions of FAR 52.212-1, Instructions to Offerors - Commercial Items; 52.212-2, Evaluation - Commercial Items; and FAR 52.212-5, Contract Terms and Conditions - Commercial items apply to this acquisition. The Government will awad a contract resulting from this synopsis/solicitation to the responsible offerror whose offer conforms to the solicitation and provides the best value to the Governemnt - price and other factors considered.

    (vii) Quotes are due Tuesday, December 23, 2013 by 3:30 pm, EST, electronically to the Contracting Officer at timothy.bouchelle@psc.hhs.gov.

    (viii) Contact Timothy R. Bouchelle, Contracting Officer, at timothy.bouchelle@psc.hhs.gov regarding this solicitation number 14-284-SOL0015A.
    Phone inquiries can be made at 410-642-1382.
    Contracting Office Address:
    Building 14
    Perry Point, Maryland 21902
    Place of Performance: DHHS
    SSC, Bldg #5 Receiving Dock

    Perry Point, Maryland 21902
    United States
    Primary Point of Contact:
    Timothy R. Bouchelle timothy.bouchelle@psc.hhs.gov
    Phone: 4106421382

    _____________________________

    Alarmist title of "14 million doses", that's 1 pellet inside a bag of 20... reduces to 7ooK bags... let's say 2 bags per individual... that's for only 350,000 people...
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    US Government Orders 14 Million Doses of Potassium Iodide

    Thursday 2nd January 2014 at 04:42 By David Icke






    Paul Joseph Watson
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    January 1, 2014

    ‘The Department of Health and Human Services has ordered 14 million doses of
    potassium iodide, the compound that protects the body from radioactive poisoning
    in the aftermath of severe nuclear accidents, to be delivered before the beginning
    of February…

    … Potassium iodide helps block radioactive iodine from being absorbed by the
    thyroid gland and is used by victims of severe nuclear accidents or emergencies.
    Under current regulations, states with populations living within 10 miles of a
    nuclear plant are encouraged, but not required, to maintain a supply of potassium iodide.

    A search of the FedBizOpps website returns no other results regarding the purchase
    of potassium iodide from any government agency, suggesting that the DHHS bulk
    buy of the tablets is unprecedented in recent times.’

    Read more …

    http://www.infowars.com/us-governmen...assium-iodide/
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    This may have all ready been posted, I just saw it on info wars link, so posted it.
    Again , if's , whats and maybes, and its impossible to evacuate the west coast
    unless there is real evidence, or warning by then it will be probably to late.

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    Top Scientist: Another Fukushima Quake Would Mean US Evacuation, ‘Bye Bye Japan’


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    Award winning scientist says another 7.0 earthquake hitting Fukushima would mean US evacuations, ‘bye bye Japan’.

    Anthony Gucciardi
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    Award winning scientist David Suzuki has gone on record in a public talk
    posted online just days ago in saying that in the event of another seven
    or above earthquake, which he says has about a 95% chance of occurring
    over the next three years, it would mean a complete evacuation of North
    America and ‘bye bye Japan’.






    http://www.infowars.com/scientist-an...cuation-japan/
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    I posted similar stuff on another thread but there are supplements that can be taken to protect yourself. This link has a very large collection of such foods/supplements.

    http://www.safespaceprotection.com/H...tion-diet.aspx

    I bought some icelandic kelp recently very cheaply. $5 for 1000 doses. As with all things don't over do it, especially if you already have thyroid problems.
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    G'day Steve,

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Thanks Targe , Pan and others for keeping this thread up to date. I don't know if this is scare mongering or that the levels of radiation will be diluted in sea and atmosphere, but worth monitoring the situation.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    36 Signs The Media Is Lying To You About How Radiation From Fukushima Is Affecting The West Coast, USA
    No worries Blue. I'm having a bit of a problem with the "36 Signs" though...

    I posted about it yesterday in another thread:

    Quote Posted by panopticon (here)
    There are so many inaccurate or misleading statements in the above quote that it's hard to know where to start...

    Take this:

    Quote #15 According to an absolutely shocking report put out by the National Academy of Sciences, it has been proven that Pacific Bluefin tuna have transported radioactive material “across the entire North Pacific Ocean”…

    “We report unequivocal evidence that Pacific Bluefin tuna, Thunnus orientalis, transported Fukushima-derived radionuclides across the entire North Pacific Ocean.”
    This is quoting a journal article titled 'Pacific blue fin tuna transport Fukushima-derived radionuclides from Japan to California' (source).

    Simple enough, except it doesn't pass mention that the report indicated that naturally occurring radionuclides were of a higher concentration than the combined Caesium 134 & 137. To quote the same scientists in a report titled 'Evaluation of radiation doses and associated risk from the Fukushima nuclear accident to marine biota and human consumers of seafood':

    Quote PBFT captured off California in August 2011 contained activity concentrations below those from naturally occurring radionuclides. To link the radioactivity to possible health impairments, we calculated doses, attributable to the Fukushima-derived and the naturally occurring radionuclides, to both the marine biota and human fish consumers. We showed that doses in all cases were dominated by the naturally occurring alpha-emitter 210 Po and that Fukushima-derived doses were three to four orders of magnitude below 210 Po-derived doses...
    ... doses are comparable to, or less than, the dose all humans routinely obtain from naturally occurring radionuclides in many food items, medical treatments, air travel, or other background sources.
    Source
    So yes, detected levels were higher (up from 1.5 Bq kg-1 in 2008 to 6.0 Bq kg-1 in 2011) but this is no-where near even the levels of naturally occurring polonium-210 in the same fish samples...

    From the same report:

    Quote Dose to Humans. Consumption of 200 g (a typical restaurant-sized serving) of PBFT contaminated with 4.0 Bq·kg -1 dry weight of 134 Cs and 6.3 Bq·kg -1 dry weight of 137 Cs (mean values for PBFT caught off San Diego in August 2011) resulted in committed effective doses of 3.7 and 4.0 nSv, respectively (Table 1). To put this into perspective, the combined dose of 7.7 nSv from these two Cs isotopes is only about 5% of the dose acquired from eating one uncontaminated banana (assuming 200 g weight) and absorbing its naturally occurring 40 K (28), and only about 7% of the dose attributable to the 40 K in the PBFT (Table 1). More strikingly, the dose from both Cs isotopes is only 0.2% of that attributable to the naturally occurring 210 Po from ingesting the fish (Table 1). Furthermore, in August 2012, PBFT off California were found to have less than half the levels of radioactive Cs than were found in August 2011 (29), which would result in even lower doses to human consumers.
    Source
    So, to be clear, if you sat down and ate a 200 gram serving of tuna with the quantity of Caesium 134 & 137 mentioned in the first article that would be about 5% of the equivalent dose from an average banana (ie eat twenty 200 gram servings of "contaminated" Tuna in one sitting and you've got the same equivalent dose as you'd get from eating one banana).
    To be crystal clear I repeat: 'More strikingly, the dose from both Cs isotopes is only 0.2% of that attributable to the naturally occurring 210 Po from ingesting the fish.'

    There are some parts of the "36 Signs" etc that are almost valid but when the sort of logic and obvious misrepresentation of the research is used to justify it how can anyone take it seriously?

    Take the reference to the personnel from the USS Ronald Reagan who are taking action against TEPCO.

    Quote #4 71 U.S. sailors who assisted with the initial Fukushima relief efforts have developed serious diseases such as testicular cancer, thyroid cancer, Leukemia, “unremitting gynecological bleeding” and brain tumors since that time as a result of exposure to radiation coming from Fukushima.
    They were within one to ten miles of the Fukushima Daiichi plant during the explosion of #3. The water they drank and washed in was desalinated sea water that would have been contaminated by radionuclides. The fact that radiation levels were low is really meaningless as it is the consumption of high emission alpha & beta particles that cause the most problems. If the water consumed by the personnel contained higher than normal quanitities of alpha & beta emitting particles and the personnel were not able to gain access to clean (uncontaminated) water to flush their system with (ie make use of the biological half-life of most radionuclides that we've mentioned before on this thread) then there would likely be an increase in cellular mutation amongst the personnel so affected. This also applies to particles on the deck area being inhaled and why personnel should have been given respirators if particle concentration was as high as claimed (the fact they weren't seems odd if air-borne concentration was actually high enough to register concern).

    Note that my above statement has nothing to do with the US coast line and was only possible because of the close proximity of the USS Ronald Reagan to the source of the radionuclides (ie Fukushima Daiichi).

    Target made some excellent points in his post above and while I disagree on aspects of some parts of it I would like to see the medical information on the USS Ronald Reagan personnel effected presented (if anyone has seen a link to that I'd appreciate it). I admit an audible groan when the lawyer mentioned correlation and causation in the same sentence... Truly amazing stuff...

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    The only consequence is what we do."

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    and of course the video wraps up with the logical fallacy : Appeal to emotion.
    Is this suppose to work, are we this easily manipulated?
    Well said Target. The tactics used were very transparent.

    I admit a shaking of the head and audible groan in places.

    Again the argument used is "all radiation is bad" because they will be using the LNT model in any case that gets to be heard. Wise tactic as it relies on accepted precedence and industry standards.

    The main problems facing the case is attributing these cases to TEPCO not providing sufficient information to the US government and this being the only reason that the personnel were not withdrawn from the area sooner. If TEPCO can show that they gave reasonable warning of levels, or that the US government would have in all likelihood not withdrawn the vessel & personnel even if the level reported was higher than what was recorded, then (as far as I can tell) there appears to be no case.

    -- Pan
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