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    A local school in Antwerp, Belgium, has seen no way out but to close its doors (at least until September) after uproar broke out when several parents started noticing inappropriate sexual behaviour in their toddlers.

    Some of these kids appeared to have even developed strange genital infections. Some parents say they had already reported this at an earlier stage to the principal but nothing happened.

    Two people are said to have officially filed a complaint but the DA says no evidence has been found so far for the allegations.

    The teacher, a young 23-year old lady, has been taken into protection by the police for fear the angry parents should harm her.

    And the principal has declared that she needs a time-out and wishes to leave the country asap.


    Full stories (run through goggles translate):
    - http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/det...30617_00626636
    - http://www.knack.be/belga-algemeen/antwerps-parket-nog-geen-aanwijzingen-van-misdrijf-op-kleuterschool-de-blokkendoos/article-4000332646610.htm
    - http://www.standaard.be/cnt/DMF20130620_00629920
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    Default Re: School closes doors after allegations of child sex abuse

    Hey Violet, just a little tip when posting a link. Leave the minus sign out(-) when putting the "http" on it. Try this and see.
    http://www.standard.be/cnt/DMF20130620_00629920

    Oops they pulled it down, never mind.

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    There was a story in Germany recently where a mum went to pick her toddlers up from kindergarden earlier than usual, dropped into the classroom and found the teacher with the children, all facing each other and showing each other's genitals. She inquired and it turns out to be part of the curriculum to start teaching children early... I wonder who that suits if children consider sexuality completely normal at a young age...

    There is some pretty horrific things happening in schools as well. Sex education is taking place earlier and earlier and in some pretty freaky ways as well. Parents would do well to inquire with their schools on how exactly they are doing it, I suppose, and to ask their children carefully if things like that happen in their classrooms

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    There was a story in Germany recently where a mum went to pick her toddlers up from kindergarden earlier than usual, dropped into the classroom and found the teacher with the children, all facing each other and showing each other's genitals. She inquired and it turns out to be part of the curriculum to start teaching children early... I wonder who that suits if children consider sexuality completely normal at a young age...

    There is some pretty horrific things happening in schools as well. Sex education is taking place earlier and earlier and in some pretty freaky ways as well. Parents would do well to inquire with their schools on how exactly they are doing it, I suppose, and to ask their children carefully if things like that happen in their classrooms


    Wow.

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    Default Re: School closes doors after allegations of child sex abuse

    This is all designed to suit the perverts

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    Default Re: School closes doors after allegations of child sex abuse

    And now, about a week later, and one soothing speech from the Moroccan ambassador later (most kids in these school are Moroccan) story has successfully gone silent.

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    Thanks for posting this information - it just goes to show that when enough parents and people ask enough questions - then the school closes. If there was evidence you can bet someone in a position of authority wanted it kept quiet. It is all about people in positions of authority not wanting to have to take the blame.

    When Children go to school and have 'strange' genital infections you can bet the word strange translates to - sexually transmitted disease. If medical professionals tested the Children then there would be evidence. I imagine the school closed to avoid a public scandal and to avoid large payouts to parents for the schools lack of Duty of Care. Sad to say but paedophiles and predators gravitate towards schools and unless parents and people speak up - loud and long - then the paedophiles will keep winning and the authorities who protect them will never be made to stand trial for their complicity.

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    Well, Amanda, I have sad news, especially for the parents involved.

    The investigation reaches an end now and the verdict in today's headlines: "No child abuse by kindergarten teacher"

    Full article: http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/989/Bin...e-school.dhtml
    You can run a gogglestranslate. Here's some excerpts:
    • "There is no evidence whatsoever that a criminal offence has been committed."
    • "Absolutely no form of child abuse has taken place."

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    Update 1: Mayor encourages citizens to file lawsuits against (victims') parents who made row about nothing (as appears from verdict) thus disturbing public order needlessly. (http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/989/Bin...ervolgen.dhtml)

    Update 2: Leading parent is now said to belong to extremist islamist group and accused of having set this whole stir up in cooperation with Sharia4Belgium to radicalise the local Muslim community. (http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/1344/On...-Sisters.dhtml)

    Update 3: School to re-open and change name to "Creatopia" (http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20130715_00659380) or "Creatopolis" (http://www.knack.be/nieuws/belgie/pi...0351217138.htm)

    Update 4: Allegations of a conspiracy led by Sharia4Belgium to radicalise the local Muslim community is re-enforced by now claiming that a second member of the group is also leading an online hate campaign against the school. (http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...15_Blokkendoos)
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    Update 5: A 36-year old man has been arrested for threatening the kindergarten teachers on his Facebookprofile. He is also said to have been spotted at Sharia4Belgium gatherings (Read: possibly dealing with terrorist profile). (http://www.gva.be/regio-antwerpen-st...okkendoos.aspx)

    Update 6: The 36-year old man is said to have ties to the Brussels extremist Jean-Louis Le Soumis, "the godfather of Belgian jihad". (http://www.gva.be/regio-antwerpen-st...extremist.aspx)

    Update 7: Following the consecutive findings of the prosecutor, Antwerp mayor, B. De Wever, says he is very curious as to what more the investigation will surprise us with. (http://www.gva.be/regio-antwerpen-st...extremist.aspx)

    Well, mister mayor, we too, are very anxious for the next update, so please, don't have us wait all too long.

    In a nutshell, and much to many spectators' expectations, the focus has successfully shifted from a child abuse allegation to the idea of a fabricated conspiracy by extremists of the Sharia4Belgium movement.

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    If I went into a classroom and found the teacher and the kids exposing their genitals, for whatever reason, there would be hell to pay! Sick.
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    If you have no tangible evidence, and it is "just" what you saw with your own "subjective" eyes, then you cannot be sure that the situation will not be turned around as has happened in this specific case.

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    Update 8: 36-year old suspect sentenced to 1 year jail and 600 EUR fine + 650 EUR damages per victim (http://www.gva.be/regio-antwerpen-st...-jaar-cel.aspx)

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    the translation:
    Quote Threatener teachers Blokkendoos gets year in prison

    threatener teachers blocks gets year in prison

    9:20 Kiel (2020 ) The Antwerp criminal court , the 36 -year-old Kamal A. from Bergen Tuesday condemned because he had threatened three teachers of preschool and primary school 'De Blokkendoos ' ( now Creatopia , ed) on his blog and on their Facebook pages. He got a year in prison , six months effective , and 600 euro fine . He must also pay 650 euros in damages . Every teacher


    The Blokkendoos ended in late June in a media storm after some parents had three teachers accused of sexually abusing six pupils . Through the commotion, the management decided to send the children prematurely. Holiday

    A. Kamal , who calls himself an amateur journalist , became fascinated by the story and invited the parents on a barbecue . He got them from police reports and medical documents from the file and reported about it on his blog . The accused also wanted to hear the story of the teachers and placed under the alias Abu Dawud messages on their Facebook pages , which were threatening them .

    " Your part of the child is very large . We know all about you , and we will focus all our arrows at you if you do not want to cooperate. We know that you're protecting others. Cooperate or carry any responsibility," sounded his message . The accused , who is being linked to the activities of Sharia4Belgium , was traced and is since the end of August in custody
    So, nobody has been inquiring about the children abuse it seems. And those who did are punished...... I don't quite follow what truly happened.

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    Quote Posted by Soulboy (here)
    There was a story in Germany recently where a mum went to pick her toddlers up from kindergarden earlier than usual, dropped into the classroom and found the teacher with the children, all facing each other and showing each other's genitals. She inquired and it turns out to be part of the curriculum to start teaching children early... I wonder who that suits if children consider sexuality completely normal at a young age...

    There is some pretty horrific things happening in schools as well. Sex education is taking place earlier and earlier and in some pretty freaky ways as well. Parents would do well to inquire with their schools on how exactly they are doing it, I suppose, and to ask their children carefully if things like that happen in their classrooms


    Wow.

    Well, guess who is behind "early" sex education...

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    [...]

    From Sue Arrigo:

    [...]

    The third piece of disinformation that the CIA fed therapists in journals to fool them and the parents is a bit subtler. The disinformation said "There is no normal age at which children should be told about sex. Sex education can occur at any age — it is up to the parents to decide. And sex education may be bad for kids so maybe we shouldn’t have it in our schools..."

    The CIA spent a lot of money to convince parents, churches, and schools not to have real sex education classes. The reason was that when kids were allowed to freely talk in a group about their sexual experiences or fantasies or theories of sex, the kids themselves could see that some of them had very different levels of exposure to and sophistication in these matters.

    So if sex education had to be taught the CIA wanted canned talks in which the kids were not allowed to talk. It thus trained sex educators to control the amount kids could talk and tried to make it taboo for the kids to talk to each other afterwards.

    The CIA also found out that there was a best age for sex education –about the start of puberty. So then they fostered some campaigns to force the education to be earlier. The reason for that was that some young child whose native curiosity would not lead to sophisticated knowledge of sexual action, were coming out with it in front of parents and therapists.

    It was better for the CIA if they could say that the kid learned it in a sex education class than from CIA prostitution of them. So although it sounds contradictory, the CIA’s bottom line on sex education disinformation was—don’t have sex education classes, but if you must have them have them very early and don’t let kids talk at them. Make it a more taboo subject by the way you skirt it or only allow it to be taught in a very short segment and never referred to again.

    The CIA sponsored conferences for sex educators under a front company call “First Dating Experiences” if I remember correctly. Or maybe just “First Experiences”. When the abstinence only people objected the name of the front company was called something like “Wait for Marriage, Inc."

    It was the same front. The same staff, address etc. The CIA also pushes abstinence and marital fidelity fronts while not practicing these things themselves. It does that to increase the effectiveness of its blackmail ops.

    Sexual blackmail only works when the society is condemning towards others. It is not the abstinence of fidelity that the CIA is after, it is the condemning of others it is after.

    Condemning is a form of hate and the CIA provokes hate and condemning as a way of controlling others. It is a mind control technique that can then be used to get people to fight wars etc against their best interests.

    [...]

    The actual results were that the CIA training was not adequate in amount or quality to do anything to train a kid in pushing. So the experiment was not a test of that at all. The experiment was a cover story for how to get the kids into one’s hands.

    [...]

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    the translation:
    Quote Threatener teachers Blokkendoos gets year in prison

    threatener teachers blocks gets year in prison

    9:20 Kiel (2020 ) The Antwerp criminal court , the 36 -year-old Kamal A. from Bergen Tuesday condemned because he had threatened three teachers of preschool and primary school 'De Blokkendoos ' ( now Creatopia , ed) on his blog and on their Facebook pages. He got a year in prison , six months effective , and 600 euro fine . He must also pay 650 euros in damages . Every teacher


    The Blokkendoos ended in late June in a media storm after some parents had three teachers accused of sexually abusing six pupils . Through the commotion, the management decided to send the children prematurely. Holiday

    A. Kamal , who calls himself an amateur journalist , became fascinated by the story and invited the parents on a barbecue . He got them from police reports and medical documents from the file and reported about it on his blog . The accused also wanted to hear the story of the teachers and placed under the alias Abu Dawud messages on their Facebook pages , which were threatening them .

    " Your part of the child is very large . We know all about you , and we will focus all our arrows at you if you do not want to cooperate. We know that you're protecting others. Cooperate or carry any responsibility," sounded his message . The accused , who is being linked to the activities of Sharia4Belgium , was traced and is since the end of August in custody
    So, nobody has been inquiring about the children abuse it seems. And those who did are punished...... I don't quite follow what truly happened.

    Ever so thanks for this effort, Flash.

    I don't know about the real story either. I think that the details of the prosecution research will remain private for obvious reasons of privacy protection but still...It all went so fast.

    Oh, another smaller update but it's in the article: the man got 1-year of which 6 months effective.

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    Default Re: School closes doors after allegations of child sex abuse

    What was that other coverup that happened in Belgium regarding sexcrimes, Detroux? This seems very reminiscent.
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    Source: Watch on Vimeo



    When I heard the promo for this series on a local radio station, I first thought it was a joke. I immediately had to think of that one eloquent mother that stood up so firmly in this case of alleged child abuse (supra).

    Just hearing it on the radio (with no images) the resemblance was extraordinary.

    Doing more research and seeing the visual trailer and the actors, and reading the plot it does look somewhat different, but that radio promo initially shocked me the first time I heard it because (in the assumption it was merely "creative" advertising for the upcoming elections - which perhaps in the end it is, who knows) I thought it was very respectless towards the parents of those children.

    All-in-all it does look like local TV picked this story up, romanticised it, whitened the characters a bit/lot, and made a good deal of money out of it.

    Any fellow Belgians that want to share their views?

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    Update 3 (repost): School has reopened under new name Creatopia. (source: http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/re...rpen/1.1719857)

    Update 9: Accused school teacher reveals identity and (!) comes with new information: she says that she suspects child abuse indeed took place but by whom?
    (source: http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/vi...land/1.2540341 (interview in Flemish))

    Update 10: Court decision follows on 4/2/16. Court announced that if teacher is acquitted of all charges, it will consider the case closed. Despite update 9. Court says that during the investigations there were no such indications as to support this new statement of the teacher.
    (source: http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/binnenland/1.2541123)
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