Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case.

[heyokah]

* I'd like to start this discussion with a series documentaries from which I borrowed the title of this thread.
The different subjects presented in this documentary can be discussed seperately of course.

PLAUSIBLE POINTS FOR THE REPTILIAN CASE

This documentary explores the phenomenon of the "Reptilians" from a different point of view than most.
The film makers attempt to bring forth the most compelling evidence for the existence of the "serpent race" in an organized and serious manner.

It seems the idea of Reptilians or other worldly themes within the "truth movement" is a dividing point for some people.

This documentary tries to examine this subject completely and unbiased .

Are these entities known as Reptilians or Reptoids actually real?
It is up to you to decide!"

Here is the link to a playlist with the 22 videos.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DFqfA...4XDDDs&index=1

* 1.) INTRO with narrator: Mindseye Mike

* 2 and 3.) REPTILIAN MYTHOLOGY FOUND IN EVERY ANCIENT CULTURE ON EARTH - https://youtube.com/watch?v=m5L0Z...=share&index=2

* 4 and 5.) REPTILIAN TRAITS FOUND IN HUMANS: BRAINS, BLOOD and TAILS - https://youtube.com/watch?v=9iNvf...4XDDDs&index=3

* 6.) TROODON and THE DINOSAUROID HYPOTHESIS - https://youtube.com/watch?v=AHy9k...=share&index=5

* 7.) REPTILIAN SYMBOLISM: OLD and NEW - https://youtube.com/watch?v=fi--E...4XDDDs&index=6

* 8 and 9.) JULES VERNE, the GOLDEN DAWN and HOLLOW EARTH THEORY - https://youtube.com/watch?v=SNoIa...4XDDDs&index=7

* 10, 11 and 12.) POP-CULTURE REPTILIANS - https://youtube.com/watch?v=aSTcw...4XDDDs&index=9

* 13.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: JOHN MACK, MD - https://youtube.com/watch?v=D7JQN...XDDDs&index=12

* 14.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: JOHN RHODES - https://youtube.com/watch?v=dXnAw...share&index=13

* 15.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: DR. ARTHUR DAVID HORN - https://youtube.com/watch?v=Htaf4...share&index=14

* 16.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: ALEX COLLIER / MICHAEL TSARION - https://youtube.com/watch?v=H1nAc...XDDDs&index=15

* 17.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: JORDAN MAXWELL - https://youtube.com/watch?v=5D4Oh...XDDDs&index=16

* 18.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: STEWART SWERDLOW / RED ELK - https://youtube.com/watch?v=lzx85...share&index=17

* 19.) RESEARCHERS and ENCOUNTERS: DAVID ICKE - https://youtube.com/watch?v=EyXbH...XDDDs&index=18

* 20.) THE EYES HAVE IT - https://youtube.com/watch?v=kZqcS...XDDDs&index=19

* 21 and 22.) CONCLUSION and EPILOUGE Q&A with NARRATOR and PRODUCER - https://youtube.com/watch?v=YoXMU...share&index=20

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DFqfAh8J2hA

[Becky]

Here's another one to add to the list ...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

[Freed Fox]

Since David Icke is one of those being cited, and because he is one of the leading proponents of this theory, here are a couple of quotes from him to keep in mind;

(From an interview video):

Posted by David Icke
I don’t want to demonize the entire reptilian race, because it’s just a genetic stream in the great forever. I’m talking about a small number of this reptilian race that is behind the manipulation, not the race in general. Indeed, many of the reptilian stream both in physical bodies and in other dimensions are working now to help humanity win their freedom… to win our freedom back.

And from his book, Human Race Get Off Your Knees;

These entities who are manipulating and controlling the reality on this planet are actually what can be thought of as outcasts of the reptilian race.

[feltip]

I would also say Pierre Sabak makes a compelling argument for the reptilian case in his book "Murder of Reality"...a detailed study of language and how it points specifically to reptilian origins.

[ghostrider]

the reptoids have pulled the devils trick , convincing people they don't exsist ... after seeing so many , I quit looking or speaking about them ...the mental block to their exsistence is powerful , a veil that is not easily removed ... it' all up to the individual and their own personal awareness ...

[Sith73]

The reptoids here on Tera have been pulling the strings and dominating this world for some time. When Atlantis fell this world became easy to control. Keep in mind you have your good and the bad when it comes to reptoids. The main race that's been here for some time are the Alpha Draconians. Yes they are very much real, heck fighting the Dracoians goes all the way back to the Orion wars which is a long story in it self. The signs are everywhere on this world and one only needs to look around to see that. I acknowledge them and know they exist along with their Grey partners in crime that have been here. The Alpha Dracoians as an empire are sneaky bastards and it would be foolish to not acknowledge them because they are very much real. If you like true freedom than you should stand your ground to fight tyranny because they are all about dominating and control and eating us in so many ways. I will stand my ground against them.

[karelia]

Please, all, change your language. You cannot fight for peace, so don't say you fight. Yes, of course the reptilian races exist, and many of them value the polar opposite of what humans value: deceit, lies, control, manipulation. But as long as you fight them, this war will continue. Be aware of them, yes! And do stand your ground! But not by seeing them as an enemy. Instead, offer to share your own joy of living with them. Show them that life without negative values can be so much more rewarding than what they are going through right now. Show them there is a way to come out of their darkness. Then we may get somewhere, to something resembling peace, on this planet.

You'll be amazed what can happen if you approach things in a peaceful manner. Do try it for yourselves.

[feltip]

Posted by karelia (here)
Please, all, change your language. You cannot fight for peace, so don't say you fight. Yes, of course the reptilian races exist, and many of them value the polar opposite of what humans value: deceit, lies, control, manipulation. But as long as you fight them, this war will continue. Be aware of them, yes! And do stand your ground! But not by seeing them as an enemy. Instead, offer to share your own joy of living with them. Show them that life without negative values can be so much more rewarding than what they are going through right now. Show them there is a way to come out of their darkness. Then we may get somewhere, to something resembling peace, on this planet.

You'll be amazed what can happen if you approach things in a peaceful manner. Do try it for yourselves.

well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

[karelia]

Posted by feltip (here)
well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

You know within yourself that your flippancy regarding tea and toast and light and love are nothing but hollow words. Nobody but yourself can change your stance, but the truth stands tall on its own.

You may find some satisfaction over 'winning the fight' for an hour, or a day, or even a month. But know that the Joy of having aided someone out of the darkness lasts for eternity. I know which one I prefer.

[feltip]

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by feltip (here)
well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

You know within yourself that your flippancy regarding tea and toast and light and love are nothing but hollow words. Nobody but yourself can change your stance, but the truth stands tall on its own.

You may find some satisfaction over 'winning the fight' for an hour, or a day, or even a month. But know that the Joy of having aided someone out of the darkness lasts for eternity. I know which one I prefer.

I only "won" the fight because it did not go on for a second longer - me thinks

fighting means starving the beast within - that means not feeding ego while in an "alive" awaken state of consciousness

my point was not to be flippant - my point was this creature wanted nothing to do with anything I had to offer - it wanted the Light I was stewarding - that was all it wanted...me being cast into the abyss for all eternity was merely collateral damage - kinda like throwing an empty beer can out the window.

there was no reasoning - no opportunity to reason.

we must lay siege during our awaken hours - we must starve the beast while moving through our daily lives - we must crucify our ego - so that when we each face this creature when we "die" - (shed our skin) - it will be as weak as we have made it while "alive".

I have no business aiding anyone out of darkness - nor do I hubristically believe I could even if I wanted to.

this is an individual fight.

[heyokah]

Posted by Becky (here)
Here's another one to add to the list ...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...erta_files.htm

****

I add a short video version.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xxXoccSw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ib24DJkrbZ8

[Sith73]

karelia,

I'm sorry I can't tolerate when others suffer under tyranny, oppression manipulation, children and adults being eaten like livestock. Earth isn't the only planet that has suffered from their manipulations of dominance and control. I think peace should be the goal bottom line, but when a race has been told to leave and the crap they have done just puts me over the edge. No being should suffer in the universe, but it goes on. When peace fails and they don't listen what do you do? Do you sit back and do nothing? Believe me I hate war...... fighting and all that stuff, but if fighting meant the difference from being free and being a slave I would fight.

I have a heart of a warrior and its in my nature to help others and fight if necessary so there can be peace.

[karelia]

Dear Sith73,

We are on the same page. I cannot tolerate such horrific acts either.

They may have been told to leave, but it was done very half heartedly, don't you think? Considering that there are still a lot of HUMANS who do their bidding, or even imagined bidding, with some kind of utterly demented pleasure, why would the dracos see the need to leave?

Peace will not fail. But we need to get over ourselves and focus on the task. And that cannot be done with fighting but only with peace bringing.

Posted by Sith73 (here)
karelia,

I'm sorry I can't tolerate when others suffer under tyranny, oppression manipulation, children and adults being eaten like livestock. Earth isn't the only planet that has suffered from their manipulations of dominance and control. I think peace should be the goal bottom line, but when a race has been told to leave and the crap they have done just buts me over the edge. No being should suffer in the universe, but it goes on. When peace fails and they don't listen what do you do? Do you sit back and do nothing? Believe me I hate war...... fighting and all that stuff, but if fighting meant the difference from being free and being a slave I would fight.

I have a heart of a warrior and its in my nature to help others and fight if necessary so there can be peace.

[Natalia]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
Since David Icke is one of those being cited, and because he is one of the leading proponents of this theory, here are a couple of quotes from him to keep in mind;

(From an interview video):

Posted by David Icke
I don’t want to demonize the entire reptilian race, because it’s just a genetic stream in the great forever. I’m talking about a small number of this reptilian race that is behind the manipulation, not the race in general. Indeed, many of the reptilian stream both in physical bodies and in other dimensions are working now to help humanity win their freedom… to win our freedom back.

And from his book, Human Race Get Off Your Knees;

These entities who are manipulating and controlling the reality on this planet are actually what can be thought of as outcasts of the reptilian race.

That is so nice to read David saying that, I've never heard him say it before and at times he did give the impression (and/or myself and others got the impression) that he was demonizing the whole race...

I believe that it's the same with the annunaki as well...some are benevolent and different in natures compared to some others from the same race...

~love~

[heyokah]

Posted by feltip (here)
I would also say Pierre Sabak makes a compelling argument for the reptilian case in his book "Murder of Reality"...a detailed study of language and how it points specifically to reptilian origins.

Thank you feltip, for mentioning this writer.
Here's something about the book you mentioned.

http://www.pierresabak.com/newsite/v...php?page_id=12

The Murder of Reality: Hidden Symbolism of the Dragon

Pierre Sabak cites from more than twenty dictionaries and compares the same worded puns found in Greek, Latin, Chinese, Persian, Japanese, Hebrew, and Arabic, revealing a uniformity of belief evident in the Classical world.
He analyzes the Serpent’s clever manipulation of collective reality through the study of language and etymology and shows:

* Correlations between U.F.Os and Angels based on the study of Ancient Arabic and Aramaic.

* How an alien race seeded planet earth.

* Evidence showing that the Caucasian race originated from Mars.

* Conclusive proof that the White priesthood of Israel is linked to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party.

* The Hidden Matriarchal priesthood: Information on how men are excluded from the highest forms of initiation permitted only to women, children and castrated Eunuchs.

* The purity of the angelic bloodline protected by the priestess.

* The Catholic Church and its collaboration with fallen angels.

* Child Sacrifice and the worship of Yahweh

* The illegitimacy of Abraham’s son Isaac.

* Incorrect translations of Hieroglyphs and the hidden connection between the Jewish and Egyptian priesthood.

* Relationships between the Islamic and Egyptian Mystery Schools.

As is said: This is the book the priesthood does not want you to Read!

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I also add a two part interview with Pierre Sabak.

"We delve deep into the realm of Illuminotics. Exploring the relationship with monarchical bloodlines and the many ancient account of the serpent preisthood. Covering much important etymology & symbolism both within the lodge & the corporate world. Pierre touches on new information & concepts until now not expressed within the public domain. This interview is a must listen for all truth seekers driven to dig beneath the surface of the alternative media. You will learn much from this fascinating discussion."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJtWSdZars

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cUZPB5Tj2qw

[heyokah]

MORE PLAUSIBLE POINTS: EVIDENCE FOR THE SERPENT RACE.
The follow-up to "Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case."

'More Plausible Points' takes a deeper look at "the reptilians", an ever-growing phenomena that has shaped our history, myths, religions and culture.
This objective and meticulously researched documentary speculates on the possible existence of an advanced inter-terrestrial, extra-terrestrial, or inter-dimensional reptilian species.
The film makers beg the question: "Did a prehistoric serpent race once walk the Earth...and if so, do they still exist?".

-Saga A
Intro
Chapter 1- MORE Reptilian Mythology I
Chapter 2- MORE on the "Dinosauroid" hypothesis
Chapter 3- The Reptilian Past: Imprints of Dragons & Dinosaurs
Chapter 4- MORE Inner Earth: Underground Bases, DIA, & Phillip Schneider
Chapter 5- Lizard Language: Serpent Etymology
Chapter 6- MORE Reptilian Mythology II
Chapter 7- Ophiolatreia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qV0odkZuqzE

-Saga B
Chapter 8- MORE Inner Earth: Underground Bases, DIA, & Philip Schneider (2/2)
Chapter 9- MORE Reptilian Symbolism: From Past to Present
Chapter 10- Draco=Dracula: The Dragon Order & the Reptilian/Vampire Connection
Chapter 11- Other Dimensional Reptilians?
Chapter 12- Ophiuchus & Other Astrological Serpent Symbolism
Chapter 13- William Henry

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EIbTR1EZUqY

[Spellbound]

Posted by heyokah (here)

Posted by Becky (here)
Here's another one to add to the list ...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...erta_files.htm

****

I add a short video version.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xxXoccSw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ib24DJkrbZ8

Is this Lacerta interview for real?? Or is it dubunked??

Dave - Toronto

[heyokah]

Posted by Spellbound (here)

Posted by heyokah (here)

Posted by Becky (here)
Here's another one to add to the list ...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...erta_files.htm

****

Is this Lacerta interview for real?? Or is it dubunked??

Dave - Toronto

Yes, that's the question.

I have been searching on the Internet for what I could find about these 'Lacerta Files.'

Here is the article : "The Lacerta Files debunked?" - February 21, 2012, from the "Alternative Realities" site.

The comments are interesting as well!
_

"The Lacerta Files"

If you have not already seen it there is a 2 hour long audio version of the lacerta interview on youtube transformed into audio by us here at Alternative Realities .Click HERE to view it.
We have had a pdf copy of this since ages and decided to transform it into audio. It's a great story about an alleged interview in Sweden with a reptilian woman belonging to an advanced underground "reptilian race" with super natural abilities and advanced technology.

To describe it shortly it is about a Swede named Ole K., who by a friend is told that he had met a reptile woman in south of Sweden and Ole was to be permitted to interview the woman which he later did at two occasions, 16 December 1999 and 24 April 2000.
The interviews takes place in an unnamed town in southern Sweden. The woman, who calls herself Lacerta (Latin for reptile) has a reptile-like appearance, but, with the help of her abilities she make people see her in human form. She says she belongs to an ancient race that lived underground for millions of years and hidden openings of their caves can be found in Sweden and lots of other places throughout the world. Further she says that some of the flying saucers we humans are seeing does belong to her reptilian race. She travels to the surface now and then to study humans but does not normally allow open contact with anyone or let anyone see her in her true reptilian form.

Now there are some websites out there claiming to have some sort of copyright on this transcript that was granted by some Swedish guy named Jimmy Bergman.
Problem is that when researching this, it shows that Jimmy Bergman is just a fictional person. And the only explanation is that certain websites made that name up so that it would appear like they had been granted the copyright. Which is not the case there is no Jimmy Bergman to be found that claim to be the author or original receiver of this transcript that appeared about 10 years ago!
In the end this name seems to have been constructed for one purpose only! Namely a lame copyright scam attempt, which is really hilarious since the transcript says it should be spread far and wide and shared via e-mail and printed copies etc... This transcript was also spread that way from the beginning, and also via various file sharing networks such as dc++ in pdf format
There are 14008 persons in Sweden with the last-name: Bergman and 17274 persons with the name: Jimmy. which gives you a hint of that this is not a very unusual Swedish name

The only traces of what could possibly be the original source of this transcript that has been in circulation for about 10 years now and has become known as The Lacerta files. Is a man named Jo Conrad a controversial German author of conspiracy and New Age literature.Jo Conrads books are pretty much taboo in Germany because of him being accused of "antisemitism" and being "nazi friendly".

Well enough of that, (and back on topic) in Jo Conrads book Ursprünge (released 2000) he has a chapter about Lacerta. Further more when asked Jo Conrad has said that he had a very brief e-mail correspondence with a Swede named Ole K., who at the time seemed scared and after a while the correspondence ceased without explanation....and Jo Conrad never heard from him again and has nothing more to say about it?
Another trace of the The Lacerta files origin is www.sabon.org. At the time of the Lacerta Files publishing on the page it was registered on Rico Kolodzey and still is, Rico a German mystic who is mostly known for his claims to be able to feed and live of sunlight and water only! A claim he applied to prove on "The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge" but was pretty much laughed at and he was not allowed to participate.
Rico is not replying on any questions concerning the files or from where he first got them. thats just about as deep as you can get in the search for the true origins of "The Lacerta Files"

Now you tell me if I ruin people´s fun? with expressing my own little theory: That just maybe Jo and Rico the two controversial Germans happen to friends? And just maybe Jo Conrad the AUTHOR of conspiracy and New Age literature is my main suspect of who is the creator of this transcript.
We will probably never know and I guess thats just like those behind it wants it.

Fact or fiction it´s for you to decide.

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READ MORE
http://www.alternativerealities.org/...-debunked.html

[Spellbound]

Thx Heyokah,
Yes, I saw that last night as I was surfing the internet trying to find out more info on the Lactera interview....but the above doesn't really do much to debunk (or verify) the interview. I know that Bill has said that some sort of "interview with an alien" was in fact debunked...but not sure it was this specific interview. It's a fascinating read (or listen). I wish we knew more about this.

If anyone has any more info here....please let us know.

Dave - Toronto

[heyokah]

Posted by Spellbound (here)
Thx Heyokah,
Yes, I saw that last night as I was surfing the internet trying to find out more info on the Lactera interview....but the above doesn't really do much to debunk (or verify) the interview. I know that Bill has said that some sort of "interview with an alien" was in fact debunked...but not sure it was this specific interview. It's a fascinating read (or listen). I wish we knew more about this.

If anyone has any more info here....please let us know.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave,

I think you are referring to the Lawrence Spencer's 'ALIEN INTERVIEW', which was talked about in this thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-is-a-hoax-BR-

This was not about the Lacerta Files.