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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    A jail term of 15 months? For killing somebody? What a joke!

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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    Quote Posted by gypsybutterflykiss (here)
    Yea, was there even a driver? His entire death could have been staged.

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    You must've posted this just as I was posting
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    Quote Dr. John Mack died on September 27, 2004, aged 74. He was hit by a drunken driver late in the evening while on a crosswalk in London. The driver, Raymond Czechowski, 52, of Elstree, England, was later apprehended by the police and entered a plea of guilty “by careless driving whilst under the influence of alcohol”.

    Dr. Mack's family wrote to the Crown Court asking for leniency. "Although this was a tragic event for our family, we feel Mr. Czechowski's behavior was neither malicious nor intentional, and we have no ill will toward him since we learned of the circumstances of the collision,” the letter said. “We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail. As for ourselves, our grief will not be lessened by knowing that he is incarcerated – in fact, we would wish that he not be.” Nevertheless, Mr. Czechowski was sentenced to a jail term of 15 months.
    Taken from http://projectcamelot.org/mack.html
    Interesting, Paul Burrell, Lady Di's Butler, who tried to save some of her personal belongings from being destroyed by the Queen and her sister in law (I think, according to Chris Everard) had his store fire-bombed by a 'mentally ill' Bulgarian National who couldn't be charged as he was found 'unfit' to stand trial, and I think a previous security guard she may have had an affair with had a tragic 'car accident' as well, it's amazing how these 'eastern european 'crazies' just pop out of the woodwork at these timely moments... even the Queen herself made reference to "dark and mysterious forces"

    here's a quote, what's weird is they just kept getting more and more 'lenient' with him...

    "Mitev, 50, of Wood Green, London, had been due to face a criminal trial earlier this year but was found unfit to plea by Judge Elgan Edwards, Recorder of Chester. This meant he couldn't be jailed but could be detained in hospital after a jury at Chester Crown Court found the case against him proved. However, Judge Edwards, considering sentencing on Friday, ruled out a hospital order in favour of a supervision order after taking into account the latest medical evidence."

    Now let's think about this, insane or not (not) - this guy has got such a 'hate on' that he firebombs a store, and also calls up Burrell and tells him that he has 'kidnapped' his wife, on top of that just for dramatic effect Burrell even stated he heard a woman's voice in the background 'crying' ...pretty detailed props for a 'crazy' I would say, and even if he did actually 'orchestrate' such a charade, that would make him psychologically cruel in the least and dangerously pathological in the worst case. The judge's response doesn't make any sense within this context, which he completely overlooks, and gives the guy the absolute minimum... supervision? and the icing on the cake is they have Burrell arrested (no leniency) and they have the press set on destroying his life as well

    Maybe it is just me, but I just don't trust cops, lawyers, judges, even doctors today,
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    Yea, was there even a driver? His entire death could have been staged.

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    Quote Dr. John Mack died on September 27, 2004, aged 74. He was hit by a drunken driver late in the evening while on a crosswalk in London. The driver, Raymond Czechowski, 52, of Elstree, England, was later apprehended by the police and entered a plea of guilty “by careless driving whilst under the influence of alcohol”.

    Dr. Mack's family wrote to the Crown Court asking for leniency. "Although this was a tragic event for our family, we feel Mr. Czechowski's behavior was neither malicious nor intentional, and we have no ill will toward him since we learned of the circumstances of the collision,” the letter said. “We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail. As for ourselves, our grief will not be lessened by knowing that he is incarcerated – in fact, we would wish that he not be.” Nevertheless, Mr. Czechowski was sentenced to a jail term of 15 months.
    Taken from http://projectcamelot.org/mack.html
    15 months for taking a human life, and the usual term is about one third, if it is anything like in Canada, so maybe half a year? Do you think it is possible the lawyers had any influence on this arrangement?
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    At the time it happened I was reading Paola Harris' post about how she was so shocked at the way Dr. Mack was crossing the roads
    when he met with her in Rome she thought at the time 'this guy is going to be run over one day'.
    So she was convinced it was a real accident, nothing staged.

    When I brought up what she had said during a conversation I had with Dr. Brian O'Leary
    he became quite emotional and nearly raised his voice and said: "Of course, they killed him.
    They chose the accidental driver thing because they always study their victim's behavior
    before they do it to make it look more real."
    For what it's worth.

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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    Or... the very fact the driver was DUI made it easy for puppeteers to drive him and his vehicle around... the very thing J.E. Mack was spilling the beans about.

    See this post and about the whole thread it's in.

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    As far as prison terms go in Canada for the same crime, it's a joke too. Yes, I do believe that lawyers did influence this arrangement, if not the judge himself.

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    At the time it happened I was reading Paola Harris' post about how she was so shocked at the way Dr. Mack was crossing the roads
    when he met with her in Rome she thought at the time 'this guy is going to be run over one day'.
    So she was convinced it was a real accident, nothing staged.

    When I brought up what she had said during a conversation I had with Dr. Brian O'Leary
    he became quite emotional and nearly raised his voice and said: "Of course, they killed him.
    They chose the accidental driver thing because they always study their victim's behavior
    before they do it to make it look more real."
    For what it's worth.
    thanks for that Ulli... there's no question I agree with Dr O'Leary, brilliant insight on his part, and he has written a book on the subject if I'm not mistaken, perfect example of how the answer is contained in the 'puzzle'... makes absolutely perfect sense...

    Dr Mack was brilliant, but there may have been some naivety, look at the kind of privileged life he lead, he was a scientist, an analytical thinker, a problem solver, world renowned, he knew he had the scientific acumen to apply a level of scientific methodology to this phenomena in a manner that would be very compelling, his adversaries were no doubt aware of this too. I don't think he was considering why this hadn't been done before, I don't think he was focusing too much on the conspiratorial aspect, he was focused on the science, working furiously to bring this to the public.

    A legal/intellectual attack would be in his ball court, but being an assassination target, how could he know that what he was onto would be that hot?, again, I think the real threat was his undisputed credibility. That was bullet proof, he looked to be one of those rare souls with an incredible intellectual constitution. An achiever, there is no doubt he would have successfully brought this into the mainstream awareness.

    Sagan (a famous outspoken critic, at the time) knew his credibility was on the line,

    Dr. John E. Mack exposes Carl Sagan on alien contactees
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=qDA136FKVgk

    he would have been one of the first people to be made a complete fool of... Think of the implications, think how long the line of people who would have been exposed, NASA, the astronauts (Freemasons), the Vatican (still positioning themselves...) talk about a hornet's nest.
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    We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail.

    Really? if someone ran over your mother or father (or even yourself) I am sure this is how all of you would feel too right? I have directly seen lawyers, over a period of several months, literally talk their client (a relative) into paying thousands of dollars to an insurance company when at the pre-trial, it was clearly stated there was no evidence, no witnesses and the insurance company didn't even send a lawyer (hint hint), but only a representative (as they knew they had no case) And when I pointed this out to my relative and questioned his own lawyer I found out within 10 minutes that the lawyer had not mentioned any of these factors to him and for several months had withheld a letter written by a key party that would have further proven his innocence. This same lawyer had insisted on telling him to 'let him look after it' for the several months. And was encouraging this relative to pay several thousands to the insurance company and himself. Unfortunately this relative was so enamoured with the attention the 'important' lawyer was showering on him, that he was completely mesmerized. I have seen this happen to many people when an 'important' lawyer is talking to them. There was no question the lawyer was colluding with the insurance company explaining how brilliantly naive my relative was!
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    Thanks.

    He was a genuinely brave and nice man. I was very suspicious when I heard of his death.

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    I intend to investigate Dr Mack`s death as I live in London and have just retired and now have the time thank You for this post it has given me somewhere to start

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    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    Quote Posted by gypsybutterflykiss (here)
    Yea, was there even a driver? His entire death could have been staged.

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    You must've posted this just as I was posting
    Quote Posted by bmdb (here)
    Quote Dr. John Mack died on September 27, 2004, aged 74. He was hit by a drunken driver late in the evening while on a crosswalk in London. The driver, Raymond Czechowski, 52, of Elstree, England, was later apprehended by the police and entered a plea of guilty “by careless driving whilst under the influence of alcohol”.

    Dr. Mack's family wrote to the Crown Court asking for leniency. "Although this was a tragic event for our family, we feel Mr. Czechowski's behavior was neither malicious nor intentional, and we have no ill will toward him since we learned of the circumstances of the collision,” the letter said. “We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail. As for ourselves, our grief will not be lessened by knowing that he is incarcerated – in fact, we would wish that he not be.” Nevertheless, Mr. Czechowski was sentenced to a jail term of 15 months.
    Taken from http://projectcamelot.org/mack.html
    15 months for taking a human life, and the usual term is about one third, if it is anything like in Canada, so maybe half a year? Do you think it is possible the lawyers had any influence on this arrangement?
    no, no lawyers arangements for lenient sentences. In Canada, sentences are very tiny for drunk driving, this is a regular sentence that is given to drunk drivers killing people. There is actually some social movements trying to change this, at least for multiple offenders (yes, multiiple killings while drunk driving), in Quebec. If you are a drunkard and want to drive whomever you put at risk is irrelevant, you better do it in Canada....
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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    When I saw this 'thread' all I could think about was the Daniel Boone (Theme Song)

    So naturally I replaced Daniel Boone's name with John Mack's...

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    John Mack was a man,
    Yes, a big man!
    With an eye like an eagle
    And as tall as a mountain was he!

    John Mack was a man,
    Yes, a big man!
    He was brave, he was fearless
    And as tough as a mighty oak tree!

    From the coonskin cap on the top of ol' John
    To the heel of his rawhide shoe;
    The rippin'est, roarin'est, fightin'est man
    The frontier ever knew!

    John Mack was a man,
    Yes, a big man!
    And he fought for America
    To make all Americans free!

    What a Mack, what a do-er,
    What a dream come-er true-er was he!
    Sounded 'Right' to me...

    PS - For the Record - I thought John Mack was 'Suicided by the PTB' the second I heard the news of his untimely death..!

    R.I.P
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    What is really impressive is the lengths that the PTB will go to safeguard true truth of reality.

    Those that try and report true reality are killed.

    The masters who control the "real reality" are so skilled that they can crush us like a bug and get away with it.

    awareness is amazing, and it is always great to keep in mind.....Life is an amusement park.

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    Quote I intend to investigate Dr Mack`s death as I live in London and have just retired and now have the time thank You for this post it has given me somewhere to start
    Philip Kain
    I am glad this has struck a cord, I can't get it out of my mind, and looking back, the man had so much character, it really haunts me for some reason, I think Ulli's comment about her conversation with Dr. Brian O'Leary is the most incisive statement I was looking for and summarizes it like no other...

    Quote When I brought up what she had said during a conversation I had with Dr. Brian O'Leary he became quite emotional and nearly raised his voice and said: "Of course, they killed him. They chose the accidental driver thing because they always study their victim's behavior before they do it to make it look more real."

    Quote I was reading Paola Harris' post about how she was so shocked at the way Dr. Mack was crossing the roads when he met with her in Rome she thought at the time 'this guy is going to be run over one day'. So she was convinced it was a real accident, nothing staged.
    - in this part, I question Paola Harris' unusual naivete in this particular observation' ... think about it this way... (I have finally seen the 'logical flaw' in this line of thought) ok, so he is a typical 'New Yorker', and has a tendency to navigate traffic a little more fearlessly then typical pedestrians, I can totally relate as I do this myself. But I find that others are actually being overly fearful and their perception of my behaviour is more subjective than anything, in any event, the car he now gets run over by, just ALSO happens to be a 'drunk' driver... too 'convenient' AND he gets the 'lenient' treatment? Let's not forget from the University to the cops to the judge, you have the potential of a solid chain of Freemasons... and that in my opinion is why they are DANGEROUS.

    Again probabalistically, it is to say someone calls in to work and says they are sick and can't come in, then go on to say they have a massive migraine headache, AND a terrible stomach flu, AND they are suffering dizzy spells... it's called OVERKILL, it's a bit of a giveaway. I think it would have been LESS suspect if he was just 'run over' but no, it was a 'drunk' driver, an immigrant with questionable credentials 'drunk' driver...
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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    Quote Posted by gypsybutterflykiss (here)
    Yea, was there even a driver? His entire death could have been staged.

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    You must've posted this just as I was posting
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    Quote Dr. John Mack died on September 27, 2004, aged 74. He was hit by a drunken driver late in the evening while on a crosswalk in London. The driver, Raymond Czechowski, 52, of Elstree, England, was later apprehended by the police and entered a plea of guilty “by careless driving whilst under the influence of alcohol”.

    Dr. Mack's family wrote to the Crown Court asking for leniency. "Although this was a tragic event for our family, we feel Mr. Czechowski's behavior was neither malicious nor intentional, and we have no ill will toward him since we learned of the circumstances of the collision,” the letter said. “We have had several talks as a family over the past year, and especially during these past few weeks as we anticipate the time for sentencing, and we all believe John Mack would not want Mr. Czechowski to go to jail. As for ourselves, our grief will not be lessened by knowing that he is incarcerated – in fact, we would wish that he not be.” Nevertheless, Mr. Czechowski was sentenced to a jail term of 15 months.
    Taken from http://projectcamelot.org/mack.html
    Interesting, Paul Burrell, Lady Di's Butler, who tried to save some of her personal belongings from being destroyed by the Queen and her sister in law (I think, according to Chris Everard) had his store fire-bombed by a 'mentally ill' Bulgarian National who couldn't be charged as he was found 'unfit' to stand trial, and I think a previous security guard she may have had an affair with had a tragic 'car accident' as well, it's amazing how these 'eastern european 'crazies' just pop out of the woodwork at these timely moments... even the Queen herself made reference to "dark and mysterious forces"

    here's a quote, what's weird is they just kept getting more and more 'lenient' with him...

    "Mitev, 50, of Wood Green, London, had been due to face a criminal trial earlier this year but was found unfit to plea by Judge Elgan Edwards, Recorder of Chester. This meant he couldn't be jailed but could be detained in hospital after a jury at Chester Crown Court found the case against him proved. However, Judge Edwards, considering sentencing on Friday, ruled out a hospital order in favour of a supervision order after taking into account the latest medical evidence."

    Now let's think about this, insane or not (not) - this guy has got such a 'hate on' that he firebombs a store, and also calls up Burrell and tells him that he has 'kidnapped' his wife, on top of that just for dramatic effect Burrell even stated he heard a woman's voice in the background 'crying' ...pretty detailed props for a 'crazy' I would say, and even if he did actually 'orchestrate' such a charade, that would make him psychologically cruel in the least and dangerously pathological in the worst case. The judge's response doesn't make any sense within this context, which he completely overlooks, and gives the guy the absolute minimum... supervision? and the icing on the cake is they have Burrell arrested (no leniency) and they have the press set on destroying his life as well

    Maybe it is just me, but I just don't trust cops, lawyers, judges, even doctors today,
    Recently, I wrote about how someone was obviously mentally deficient was sent to confront me, twice, in a store. Twice, in the same store visit.

    Another time a few years back, walking through a major city, in the same spot, twice, a 'raver' a person who had a Tourette's-like(ish) syndrome and never stops talking (try to watch that film from the start, it is quite good), they swore and spoke to me of the thoughts running through my mind. Once on the way to my destination, and once on the way back.

    In my understanding there is no big deal to the idea of using a minor member of the organization to take someone down, via being a drunk driver. The indication are in the western world, one in six cops being members of the Freemasons, and somewhere near 100% of all police department heads and the chief and all the local judges being Freemasons. That is the norm. So no, it is not out of place to consider that he was taken out.
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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    when i was 15 years old i walked into a bookstore and bought his first book they looked at me like I'm crazy i can tell you that was funny , john mack somehow dismantled a lot of disinformation and was on a way to some really important information i guess thats why they killed him and i bet he was warned off before.

    if you read his first book and afterwards some of his latest interviews you can see that his opinion on the case changed, he was on something for sure.
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    Default Re: The man who got away: the 'drunk' driver that killed John Mack

    Thank you so much for your persistence here, Sigma. I share your concerns; it doesn't exactly add up, does it?

    The 'kid gloves' treatment of the killer is the giveaway. Where is he now?

    Normally, someone who causes the death of a prominent person - a Harvard professor no less - would be run through the legal mill and incarcerated indefinitely. WhoTF was this guy's lawyer? How did he manage this kiss off? Drunk driving, at minimum, is an f-u offense: you're in the slammer, sucker, especially/particularly if you kill someone... So what happened here?

    Most curious indeed.

    I am also intrigued by the family's generous posthumous statement. Who, exactly "encouraged" them to come forward and say such "nice things" aka "sign here, we're 'helping you.....'"? No kidding. Oh piss; any normal family would share the same suspicions - who cleaned them out with Californian New Age generosity?

    Cheers,

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    Growing Up Alien, by Alexa Clay

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    Quote My younger brother and I called him ‘the old lizard’ (on account of his reptilian resemblance — and to irk our mother, his partner at the time). To his enemies, he was a crackpot, fraud, and a cheat. And to his patients, and many of his friends, he was a source of support, an open listener, a sage and protector.

    Dr John E Mack was many things to many people. A Harvard-trained psychiatrist, tenured professor, and one of the founders of the Cambridge Hospital Department of Psychiatry (a teaching hospital affiliated with Harvard University), John held an impressive command and was respected in his field. After an early career spent working on issues of child development and identity formation, he won the Pulitzer Prize in 1977 for his psychoanalytic biography of Lawrence of Arabia, entitled A Prince of Our Disorder (1976). Then, in the late 1980s, John put his reputation on the line when he started investigating the phenomenon of alien abduction.

    It all started innocently enough. He began holding sessions with patients or ‘experiencers’ (as they’re called) who believed they’d been abducted. He ran hypnotic regressions from our home, and he gradually came to furnish enough evidence for a book, Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens (1994). This was followed in 1999 by Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters. His standard line with the outside world was (as given to the BBC): ‘I would never say, yes, there are aliens taking people. [But] I would say there is a compelling powerful phenomenon here that I can’t account for in any other way, that’s mysterious… I can’t know what it is but it seems to me that it invites a deeper, further inquiry.’

    In the privacy of our home, where he was a regular presence, John was bolder in his claims. Aliens were real — it was just that their existence threatened the dominant logic of our worldview. John attributed society’s failure to account for the abduction experience as a cultural failing. Alien abductees weren’t deranged or mentally ill — we just didn’t have a way of interpreting and understanding what they’d been through. Rather than label these peoples’ experiences as a new disorder or syndrome, John argued that we had to probe into and change our perception of reality to account for this phenomena. The subtext: we had to allow for the existence of aliens.

    For more than a decade, from the time I was eight until I was of legal age, I was witness to these debates and to the politics surrounding John’s ‘coming out’ in support of abduction phenomena. My mother, an anthropologist by training, was John’s primary research assistant. They bought a house together in Cambridge, Massachusetts and my brother and I visited them once a month and during school holidays. The rest of the time we lived with my father and stepmother in Arlington, Virginia.

    Like many of his colleagues, I viewed John with a mixture of scepticism and intrigue. Part of my scepticism can be put down to the fact that he was dating my mom; but a good fraction of it owed to my sense of reality being overturned by the postulation of ‘greys’ — a particular manifestation of extraterrestrials, known for their large heads, huge almond eyes, and shortened, pretty much featureless bodies.



    The late John E. Mack – a Harvard psychiatrist who put his professional reputation on the line. Photo © John E Mack Archives LLC. Courtesy of Mack family The late John E. Mack – a Harvard psychiatrist who put his professional reputation on the line. Photo © John E Mack Archives LLC. Courtesy of Mack family

    At eight, and still learning to distinguish between fantasy and reality, the imposition of adults who believed in aliens was confusing and anxiety-provoking, but adventurous and thrilling too. I was fairly sure that Santa Claus wasn't real. But I wouldn’t have bet my life on it. My stuffed animals and toys had only just lost that animistic quality — becoming mere playthings, instruments of the imagination, as opposed to real creatures with essences all their own. As for aliens, I couldn’t be sure. Flying on airplanes between my parents’ houses I'd sometimes be on the lookout for a hovering metallic orb.

    It was 1992 when John entered our lives. Bill Clinton was president, and Kurt Cobain dominated the airwaves. It was the end of the Cold War stand-off, and the political scientist Francis Fukuyama had just published his book The End of History and the Last Man, where he wishfully predicted that human evolution had come to an end with the triumph of Western liberal democracy. Everything was smooth sailing. We no longer had the threat of communists, but we didn’t yet have the threat of terrorists. In need of a symbolic enemy, aliens personified an important ‘other’ — a dystopian warning to our Western culture’s all too eager triumphalism.

    On television, the paranormal soon paraded around on shows such as Roswell and The X-Files, which explored extraterrestrial phenomena in the shadow of government cover-ups and conspiracy. Flip channels and you might have caught Arthur C Clarke’s equally other-worldly 26-part series Mysterious Universe . It’s no wonder that the 1990s saw a rush of alien appearances in the popular imagination. The impending millennium brought with it the arrival of a future that had always been distant. As the political scientist Jodi Dean, author of Aliens in America (1998), articulated at the time, the appearance of aliens corresponds to our ‘anxieties over technological development and our growing consciousness of ourselves as a planet and our fears for the future at the millennium’.

    There is some truth here. When I asked my mom and John growing up what the aliens intended (subtext: ‘Do they come in peace or should I be really scared?’), they said that many experience’s felt that aliens communicated an environmental message about the urgency of saving the planet.

    At the same time, many of the abductees that John interviewed attested to the technological superiority of the alien race. I was told stories about patients who experienced aliens that could pass through walls, were able to communicate with extrasensory perception (ESP) and mind-reading, and perform medical experiments on humans without invasive surgery. In this light, aliens provided an outlet for all our fears of technological domination. To have an experience of aliens was to realise that the human race might not represent the pinnacle of evolution, that we were perhaps inferior to extraterrestrial life.

    In daylight, I was sceptical (the good little rationalist), but night-time brought with it a tide of magical thinking

    But as a kid largely ignorant of grander sociological forces, aliens were only one thing: scary. They had large black eyes and androgynous forms. And they were real — like ghosts and witches and monsters. In daylight, I was sceptical (the good little rationalist), but night-time brought with it a tide of magical thinking. I used to lie in bed and worry that maybe I would be abducted. I would even make supplicating promises of better behaviour in the hope of bartering with these outsiders — ‘I’ll be good, just leave me alone.’ In my secular progressive household, aliens offered a moral disciplining authority, an invisible spectator to police my actions.

    After many years elapsed without any sign of extraterrestrial visitation, I began to feel ignored. My fears turned to pangs of dejection: ‘Wasn’t I special?’ ‘Shouldn’t I be a chosen ambassador for the human race?’ Or even: ‘If the aliens were really out to create a master race (as I overheard), didn’t they want my DNA?’

    John had many of the same laments. They weren’t the ego bruises of a child in pursuit of some fantastical ambassadorial calling, but they were in the same genre. He felt passed over. He longed for an encounter. He was the public face of this movement and yet he had only secondary experience of the abduction phenomena. Having spent more than 15 years listening to other people’s encounters with these mythical beings, he wanted some evidence beyond the testimonials he gathered from his patients. He wanted to be visited. We all did.

    Just as important, a visitation would have answered the growing chorus of critics lining up on the ‘respectable’ side of John’s working life. Many of his colleagues thought he’d gone crazy. He, in turn, felt betrayed by those academic collaborators who failed to support his work. John's biggest critics called into question his use of hypnosis. In keeping with Freud’s theory of ‘repression’ — which held that the mind can banish traumatic memories to prevent us from experiencing anxiety — much of John’s research invoked the idea of recovered memory, whereby, through hypnosis, you could get a patient to go back into repressed traumas and recall their abduction experiences.

    I remember one summer evening in a beach house on Martha’s Vineyard when I was about 11, we all watched as John regressed my aunt back into a past life. She lay on the couch recalling an incident in which she was a forest ranger who witnessed the death of a few people during some kind of avalanche. My aunt later told me that she was fully conscious of the experience, but couldn’t control what she was saying. It was like she was watching herself tell a story. John later tried to hypnotise my brother so that he wouldn’t be afraid of spiders.

    Ultimately, the question that plagued memory excavators like John was whether these repressed memories, divulged under hypnosis, were mere ‘artefacts’ of the mind, or else legitimately true recollections. John’s tendency towards a more literal interpretation of his patients’ experiences with aliens was controversial.

    John described the investigation as ‘Kafkaesque’. He never quite knew the status of it or the nature of the committee’s complaints

    In 1994, the dean of Harvard Medical School called a committee of peers to investigate John’s scholarship. This was the first time a tenured professor had ever been subject to an investigation. It was, effectively, an inquisition that some likened to a ‘witch hunt’, and it left John feeling persecuted and misunderstood. John described the investigation as ‘Kafkaesque’. He never quite knew the status of it or the nature of the committee’s complaints. Unable to accuse John of any ethical violation or professional misconduct, its aim was to ask, as Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz put it, ‘whether a Harvard Medical School professor ought to be lending his credibility to stories of space alien abductions’. To Dershowitz, this was a dubious goal. ‘No great university should be in the business of investigating the ideas of its faculty,’ he wrote in the university magazine, in 1995. In the end, the dean reaffirmed John’s academic freedom to study what he wished and to state his opinions without impediment. But the damage had already been done.

    As his professional credibility faltered, John’s anxiety and anger began to rise. John cared about his reputation. It was not easy to become persona non grata in the very institutions he had helped to build. He was used to working within established professional systems, and when those very institutions called his integrity into question, he sought out allies in other like-minded people. He grew an entourage of support among shamans, experiencers, and celebrities.

    Our household became a living altar to an esoteric band of misfits who were regular houseguests and interlopers. One morning, when I went to get some orange juice from the kitchen, the actor Woody Harrelson was there, drinking coffee with John at the table. It was normal. Normal was also being offered a peace pipe by Sequoia, a Native American shaman who blew tobacco in our youthful faces and challenged us to seek out greater visionary experience.

    By 13, however, I was ready to move on. John and my mother were headed to the Australian outback for a year to speak with Aboriginal people about their experiences with aliens. My brother and I were invited to go along: our formal education would be satisfied by distance learning packets, while our real education, as I understood it at the time, was to be some combination of didgeridoo and Aboriginal creation myths. But something inside me desired stability and order. I longed to be absorbed into an antiseptic American culture where lacrosse, school dances and flared blue jeans were ends in themselves; where ordinary reality wasn’t usurped by the fantastical.

    My brother and I ultimately opted to stay behind. We stayed living with my father and stepmother, and succumbed to a deliciously comfortable white picket-fence existence (literally, the fence was painted white). We became absorbed in teenage politics and concerns. And the only flying saucers we encountered were Frisbees.

    Later on, at college at Brown University, I gave myself licence once again to explore the magical thoughts of my youth, not least the idea that reality was merely a construction. As an adult, it was a less threatening prospect. Rather than induce existential panic, it furnished reputational accolades. I ended up writing a thesis about 17th-century astrology and the fashioning of scientific boundaries. It was an ode to John in some ways. I wanted to understand how ‘science’ became ‘science’. Many of the astrologers of the time were booted out of the emerging scientific establishment — some were even put on trial for instigating civil disorder. It was not unlike John’s own experience, when his psychiatric methods were called into question by the scientific establishment.

    Before my thesis was published, John was hit by a drunk driver and killed, in London. It was 2004. Immediately after his death, my mother began receiving phone calls from clairvoyants who claimed to have communicated with John, ‘on the other side’. Before he died, John had begun outlining a manuscript on the power of love, based on the stories of those who had been able to communicate with loved ones after death. It was a surreal experience for my mother to be experiencing such intense grief, while at the same time receiving phone calls from people who had reportedly been in conversation with John after the accident.

    After John died, aliens seemed to vanish from household discussion almost entirely. It felt like the public’s interest had also waned. When I asked my mother why the phenomenon had seemed to die down, I was told that the aliens were placing less emphasis on the Western world; that they were more interested in China. And that’s where we left it.

    But if I reflect on the impact of my childhood experience, I think it left me with a profound openness, and a generous ear. John taught me the power of listening; really hearing people out and having the courage and resilience to question established orthodoxies. I still remain entirely agnostic about the existence of aliens. I have a commitment to preserving unknowns, and I thrive on ambiguity and complexity in my work and my relationships. John’s legacy has also left me with a certain reverence for misfits, for outliers and challengers of the status quo: for the type of person who walks the line between delusion and insight.

    John, too, remains immortalised in my mind as someone with great courage and empathy. I associate him with a period of my childhood wrought with big questions. Bearing witness to the craziness that surrounded those ten years of cosmological exploration left me with a shaky groundwork in which reality was never quite what it seemed, but it also furnished me with a profound sense of awe and wonder about the world.

    I feel incredibly grateful for the experience. To be exposed at such a young age to a zeitgeisty obsession with deprogramming, where Western culture was perceived as an enemy of consciousness and truth, was an education that left me with a residual feeling of always being on the outside of mainstream culture. There is a part of me that also looks back with nostalgia for a time when the primary conversation was a probing of the cosmological – when we weren’t all busy on our laptops, stressed about finances, or waiting with bated breath for the next season of Homeland; but were concerned, rather, with ancient and meta-questions about our role in the universe and the existence of life elsewhere.
    Alexa Clay is a writer who is still confused about whether aliens exist. Her first book, The Misfit Economy, co-authored with Kyra Maya Phillips, will be published by Simon & Schuster this year. She lives in Berlin.
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    "Although the aliens are not themselves gods, their behavior is sometimes anything other than god-like. Abductees consistently reported that the beings seem closer to god-head than we are, acting as messengers, guardian spirits, or angels, intermediaries between us & the Divine Source." -- Dr John Mack MD

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    And that's how they get away with it, in 'our' need for a saviour!
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    "Although the aliens are not themselves gods, their behavior is sometimes anything other than god-like. Abductees consistently reported that the beings seem closer to god-head than we are, acting as messengers, guardian spirits, or angels, intermediaries between us & the Divine Source." -- Dr John Mack MD

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