Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[greybeard]

Dear Tintagelcave
Thank you for your contribution.
Earth is the perfect place to gain karmic merit and therefore to grow spiritually.
Every moment we chose either fear or love.
We choose the positive or the negative.
When we choose good over evil we are contributing to the raising of collective consciousness as well as our seeming personal vibration.
The situation in the concentration camps in Germany led to many acts of compassion for others, sharing the little that a prisoner had, the forgiveness that came about during and after the war, the acts of bravery to help others on the battle field.
Every act of kindness however small lifts the vibration, every malicious thought or act lowers it.
We have a responsibility for our thoughts words and deeds.
Compassion arises where necessary and is the greatest form of human love as nothing is sought in return.
Hopefully we are coming to a time where evil is on the way out.
It is my intention to be kind to all life including my own no matter what.
Sometimes my action does not match my intention though,
Work in progress.
Chris
Namaste

[Alaois]

Hi tintagelcave,

You said: < Let's see why evil exists and step up onto the overview platform for a moment.> in your last post. Sorry, I'm not that familiar with this forum to highlight my posts correctly?

Okay then <Let's see why evil exists and step up onto the overview platform for a moment.>


There is a saying in the Bible and it goes something like this. Jesus says "Take the mote out of your own eye before you try to take it out of some other persons eye."

This is simply saying that the more you take the mote out of your own eye, the more you realize where it is coming from and eventually after years of self sacrifice you will find the source of it. All religious scriptures back that statement up. Experience stands up for the same fact. Trust me. And, sorry tintagelclave but LOVE does not understand HATE except how to stop it from diminishing LOVE.

btw - demons are sometimes your teachers and considered angels because they unconsciously lead you out of darkness, regardless of what your thinking or they are thinking, simply because your paying attention to their behavior patterns and trancing back their erroneous thoughts manifested as behavior patterns.

Oh yeah and HA! to you too.

Alaois

[Alaois]

btw - If my actions betray my intentions, somebody please correct me. Unless I'm evil minded of course. Then it's somehow the same isn't it. I still have to be corrected.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Alaois (here)
btw - If my actions betray my intentions, somebody please correct me. Unless I'm evil minded of course. Then it's somehow the same isn't it. I still have to be corrected.

I would say this again... It is in our nature (flesh/ego) to experience what "we are not" in spirit. A picture's worth a thousand words.

[Alaois]

Hi truthseekerdan,

Ever heard of the "Wolf in sheep's clothing"?

Alaois

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Alaois (here)
Hi truthseekerdan,

Ever heard of the "Wolf in sheep's clothing"?

Alaois

Are you referring that, you are one of them?

[Alaois]

truthseekerdan says,

Are you referring that, you are one of them?

I say,

No truthseekerdan.

I'm just pointing out that your logic or information or whatever you want to call it is totally off or false. As pertaining to erroneous or misleading as some would call it.

Alaois

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Alaois (here)
I say,

No truthseekerdan.

I'm just pointing out that your logic or information or whatever you want to call it is totally off or false. As pertaining to erroneous or misleading as some would call it.

Alaois

With all due respect, that is your opinion and/or perspective.
Also we're talking about EGO on this thread...

[Alaois]

truthseekerdan,

With all due respect, that is your opinion and/or perspective.
Also we're talking about EGO on this thread...

I say with all due respect truthseekerdan, that EGO is EGO and TRUTH is TRUTH and it is ultimately up to the person experiencing their own experience to realize that point. I feel you jumped the gun here. Back to topic. Did your EGO get bruised? Because I still don't understand your Wolf analogy.

[Ross]

truthseekerdan's Wolf analogy is a goody, it does illustrate the 'ego versus love', or 'evil versus good'. The dualistic paradox of who we are 'here and now' That is my interpretation of it.

Ross

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
I would say this again... It is in our nature (flesh/ego) to experience what "we are not" in spirit.

Perhaps I was not elaborate enough in my statement.
What I meant is that we have a lower self -- our 3D body (ego mind) -- and a Greater Self -- our true Divine Essence (soul/spirit).
We have to progress (evolve) from our lower self to the Greater Self by remembering (awaken), who we really are and achieve the "divine plan" of this life on Earth.

[Alaois]

Hi Ross,

We are talking here on this thread about transformation or transcendence of ego, which the Wolf analogy does not address correctly. True authentic humans don't have those negative qualities in their hearts that is listed there. They simply carry the shadows of dis-incarnate beings around with them until they learn how to cast them away. A true wolf in Mother Nature doesn't think that way ever as animals (being eternal as we humans are) are as peaceful as any benevolent person on this planet. Just ask the animals. So sorry all, that analogy acts as a negative slant on Mother Nature and doesn't speak to the real truth or help as a valid path to transforming the ego.

And sorry truthseekerdan for being so candid in my thoughts.

Alaois

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Alaois (here)

And sorry truthseekerdan for being so candid in my thoughts.

Alaois

OK, nothing to be sorry about -- you got your point across. Still not sure what you mean by "true authentic humans"...

[Alaois]

Hi truthseekerdan,

You said: Still not sure what you mean by "true authentic humans"...

From my experience there are dis-incarnate spirits disguised as humans mimicking their behavior patterns in order to shut down the creationary process altogether. They were as an analogy single celled entities spawned from Secret multi-tentacled (celled) entities that came from a dimension totally unrelated to eternity. And these secret entities or Gods as these dis-incarnate spirits view them never gained the ability to take physical manifestation as we have. The single entities disguised as humans once had a totally different form but the Secret Gods/Entities after having lost the original form of it's single entity by mimicking eternity figured out how to spawn entities which look human but whos souls are dead. This where all the negative thoughts on the planet are emanating from.

A true authentic human was born from eternity - meaning they have existed for time immemorial - experienced death at some point in the past - and eventually will all work themselves back to eternal beings. Meaning they will never have to experience death again at some point in the future.

Pulling from The Bible -

1. A true authentic human or as buddhist's call them sentient beings - are in the Book of Life - As it was in the beginning it will be in the end.

2. Dis-incarnate beings- or dead men walking, Evildoers, harbor nothing but harm in their minds- are considered part of The Book of the Dead/Lifeless - meaning that their energy which is an anti-thesis to peace, love and joy will eventually be transformed and they won't exist ever again.

Hope this clears it up.

Alaois

[greybeard]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Perhaps I was not elaborate enough in my statement.
What I meant is that we have a lower self -- our 3D body (ego mind) -- and a Greater Self -- our true Divine Essence (soul/spirit).
We have to progress (evolve) from our lower self to the Greater Self by remembering (awaken), who we really are and achieve the "divine plan" of this life on Earth.

Thanks Dan
The link "Unity Consciousness" that Dan has as a signature is well worth clicking on, probably the best discourse on what God is that I have heard,
Chris

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Alaois (here)
Hi Ross,

We are talking here on this thread about transformation or transcendence of ego, which the Wolf analogy does not address correctly.

It looks to me that you are 'not aware' of the duality nature of a human being -- negative lower self, false identity that originates from ego mind and without -- and positive Greater Self that one can connect within the heart to the Divine. IMO, if you understand this not relying on the ego mind to process, the 'wolf picture' will actually make sense...

True authentic humans don't have those negative qualities in their hearts that is listed there.

As I mentioned above, it's all in your mind -- not in your heart -- hence the free will to chose between "heart & mind" (freedom of choice).

They simply carry the shadows of dis-incarnate beings around with them until they learn how to cast them away.

This sounds like dogma or new age to me...

A true wolf in Mother Nature doesn't think that way ever as animals (being eternal as we humans are) are as peaceful as any benevolent person on this planet. Just ask the animals. So sorry all, that analogy acts as a negative slant on Mother Nature and doesn't speak to the real truth or help as a valid path to transforming the ego.

It is not about the wolf in the message, animals live in the 'now', and don't have to deal with the ego mind (free will?), but survival instincts. So the analogy was about human duality. Hope this helps...

Namaste ~ Dan

[Alaois]

Hi trutherseekerdan,

This is all starting to sound too much like semantics to me. I am just going to bow out.

En gassho, Lu

[greybeard]

Posted by Alaois (here)
Hi trutherseekerdan,

This is all starting to sound too much like semantics to me. I am just going to bow out.

En gassho, Lu

Hi Alaois
Everyone has there own way of expressing, all are valid, all welcome here, as you are.
Regards Chris

[Victoria Tintagel]

Alaois:

Hi tintagelcave,
You said: < Let's see why evil exists and step up onto the overview platform for a moment.> in your last post. Sorry, I'm not that familiar with this forum to highlight my posts correctly?

I am going to help you to highlight your texts, Alaois, as I was helped not so long ago, by Luke, one of the administrators. After selecting the text, you go to the little "textballoon" symbol in the line of symbols on top of the textpage. It's that easy, succes

Alaois:

And, sorry tintagelclave but LOVE does not understand HATE except how to stop it from diminishing LOVE.

Did I say something like this? Can't remember, please explain, Alaois? I do believe that compassionate love understands hate, in a way that it allows it to be and fully expressed.
Regarding karmic laws, who are we to judge on why evil things happen? It's a very emotional issue for many people, often, as our own responsibility jumps forward, when we look at our suffering as someone who causes suffering, instead of being a victim. The murderer and the victim in us are an example of the 2 faces of the wolf, in Truthseekerdan's post here.

This text from the Bible is the most beautiful text I know in that book:

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains,
but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered,
it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes,
always perseveres.

Love never fails....And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Blessed be, Dutchess Tint.

[truthseekerdan]

Thank you Tint, -- I will only add this statement also spoken by David Icke: "Unconditional Love is the only truth -- everything else is an illusion".

Namaste ~ Dan