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    Default Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    I apologize for the sound-level. On Youtube it has become more of a whisper. When you download it and play the file on any mediaplayer or on your IPAD it should work just fine.

    Dearest friends,

    Six and a half years ago, I received a personal message from a man who called himself John. He had a most remarkable, too fantastic story but I believed him.

    This video is about his discovery.



    It was on November 18, in the year 1969, that he witnessed something that according to his own words, changed his life completely. While watching B/W coverage of the Apollo 12 mission on the Armed Forces Vietnam Network (AFVN) he saw something very interesting and peculiar.

    He asked around if anyone else had seen it but his friends, started to make fun of him and they said; You probably have seen "the man in the moon"! John knew very well what he had seen and it was not a man in the Moon. This was bigger, much much bigger: some 3.5 miles long and 1.5 miles high to be exact.

    Afraid for what people might think of him and also that no one would ever believe him, John kept silent till 2007. That same year he stumbled upon my research and shared his secret. I promised him that I would help revealing the truth and really would have loved to show him that he had not been hallucinating, that his discovery is real but before I had found the original film (March 2011) and other video material, John had died of age. In the years that followed I continued performing my research into his discovery and now our project is finished and time has come to share his secret with everyone!

    "Those in the know" kept their lips shut for 44 years about this for mankind "historical moment" and I am NOT referring to the Apollo 12 moonlanding.

    This video hopefully will contribute to boost disclosure as it certainly will make some people very nervous and NASA will have some explaining to do. Don't you agree?

    For the really interested, here are 6 very "revealing" pictures for you to download:

    Click on - normal image size - right click on the image - save as.

    http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17572773/1.jpg.html
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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    I have watched the video yesterday and now the stills, but what exactly is it I am supposed to see Sander, I appreciate your efforts, but I notice I have a difficult time to identify what you say IS there.

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    Why is everyone always asking me what it is and what they should see. I have NO clue what it is. Only that it is clearly visible in ALL videos but nowhere on any photo made by NASA, not in the past and not recent. Fact: The terrain is flat. Fact: The object is 3.5 miles long and 1.5 miles high. Fact: If this was a rock than we still would see it on the photos and we should see shadows. Fact: The photos no longer show it. Suggestion: Watch the video again. Did you watch the entire video or just pieces? Everything is well explained. That is why I made the intro with the videos. NASA ... now you see it ... now you dont ... so where is it now?

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    Why is everyone always asking me what it is and what they should see. I have NO clue what it is. Only that it is clearly visible in ALL videos but nowhere on any photo made by NASA, not in the past and not recent. Fact: The terrain is flat. Fact: The object is 3.5 miles long and 1.5 miles high. Fact: If this was a rock than we still would see it on the photos and we should see shadows. Fact: The photos no longer show it. Suggestion: Watch the video again. Did you watch the entire video or just pieces? Everything is well explained. That is why I made the intro with the videos. NASA ... now you see it ... now you dont ... so where is it now?
    You misunderstood I did not ask what the specific object was, I am not seeing an object at all, I see a crater from different angles and something that resembles three sides of a rough rectangle, that's it, keep your cool bro, this wasn't a personal attack, it was a question, no more, no less, the question obviously annoys you so I'll split from your thread and hope someone can point the object out to me, I am just not seeing it CLEARLY, sorry Sander.

    Back to you.

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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    I apologize. Sorry but I get so many annoying questions lately. People always expect to see an alien in a spaceship waving at them. The vids that show that are fake. Real research is difficult as there is not much data available. So I did what I could and that is all I can do. I cannot use magic and make the object appear in full detail. Let us not forget that this video was shot from a hight of 87.1 nautical miles and that the crater is 10 miles in diameter. Making any details at all visible is simply impossible. What makes it more positive though is that almost a hundred users on Youtube positively identified it. They saw the same object I did. (based on their descriptions)
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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    I will put my glasses that have a green tint on the lenses and the shape of a spaceship engraved at their centers, and come back to you. You can see whatever someone else tells you that you see with this quality.
    Don't get me wrong, I SEE THE STATION if that is what I am supposed to see !
    And I know other living things exists, on other living systems, in parallel universes as well, and I know how we have been manipulated, but I don't go and get angry about it!

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    I may be mistaken, but there are other videos that may show this. On one fly by you can see a huge object sitting on the side of a crater. NASA blurred it out, but modern software revealed many details about the 'thing'. On the next fly by the 'thing' is gone. Could be a different object and crater. I'll look for it.

    It would be helpful, perhaps, if there was a side by side showing a before and after. Regardless, thanks much for this video. It is indeed more concrete evidence of activity on the moon.

    Edit: Sorry, it was the Clementine mystery from Moon Rising. You posted a video about Extraterrestrial Machinery on the Moon that contained it.
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    Default The untold Apollo 12 story

    Highly respect the research of PA member 1967sander and here's more of his amazing analysis...



    video description:
    Six and a half years ago, I received a personal message from a man who called himself John. He had a most remarkable, too fantastic story but I believed him.

    This video is about his discovery.

    It was on November 18, in the year 1969, that he witnessed something that according to his own words, changed his life completely. While watching B/W coverage of the Apollo 12 mission on the Armed Forces Vietnam Network (AFVN) he saw something very interesting and peculiar.

    He asked around if anyone else had seen it but his friends, started to make fun of him and they said; You probably have seen "the man in the moon"! John knew very well what he had seen and it was not a man in the Moon. This was bigger, much much bigger: some 3.5 miles long and 1.5 miles high to be exact.

    Afraid for what people might think of him and also that no one would ever believe him, John kept silent till 2007. That same year he stumbled upon my research and shared his secret. I promised him that I would help revealing the truth and really would have loved to show him that he had not been hallucinating, that his discovery is real but before I had found the original film (March 2011) and other video material, John had died of age. In the years that followed I continued performing my research into his discovery and now our project is finished and time has come to share his secret with everyone!

    "Those in the know" kept their lips shut for 44 years about this for mankind "historical moment" and I am NOT referring to the Apollo 12 moonlanding.

    This video hopefully will contribute to boost disclosure as it certainly will make some people very nervous and NASA will have some explaining to do. Don't you agree?

    Did NASA know about this object prior the Apollo 12 mission? YES and there is evidence to prove that. This will uploaded soon!

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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    Gr8 work Sander...
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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    Hello Conk,

    As I already mentioned in my video, NASA never took any proper picture of Mosting crater. It is always shown somewhere in the back. The only comparison that we can make is looking at the latest image image of the Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter and compare that with a still from the movie. See below.



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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    Thanks sander I was also having trouble picking it out until near the end of the vid...












    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread994339/pg1
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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    I can see the "structure" you are referring to, but having a hard time seeing a machine of any sort. How does that "structure" differ from any other land formation in there? I can see a lots of other shadows in those stills that are not visible on the above head picture.
    I could propably find as many of those "machines" from the pics I would want to, if I wanted to.

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    I called it an object but never a machine.

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    Default Re: Mösting Crater Mystery - The Untold Apollo 12 Story (narrated)

    Sander your thoughts about the actual color of the moon and what happens to the Nasa images after you find anomalies? Do the images disappear from the website files?

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    Based on my research I would describe the colour of the moon as follows: light orange tone, with lighter - and darker brownish areas. Craters show lots of greenish and blueish colours. Some areas are blue, red, pink and purple coloured (perhaps due to chemical extraction and excavation). The colours on the near side are brighter and there is less difference than specific areas on the far side and in the South Polar region. Concenring your question about removal of images: no, I have not yet seen any data removed. Prhaps because I use databases which are available to everyone and taking down these images would alarm people. Would I did find suspect however is that they removed the Zeeman crater anomaly from Google Moon and replaced it.

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