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    Default Re: Medical Marijuana To Be Legal in Illinois in Jan 2014 : )

    GOOD, but I am somewhat afraid hemp oil and vaporizers will be the least popular products sold by the dispensaries, take it from a Dutch guy who hung around in coffeeshops for 20 somewhat years ( you know, those dispensaries where tourists go in Holland to just get stoned out of their minds), perhaps 5 % have medical issues of all visitors, the rest is just to lazy to grow their own or don't want to get caught, take it from me, the MONKEYWRENCH.

    Fact is..... lots of people smoke recreational......... that's fine..... your gov, just like ours just wants to cash in by taxing it and they need an excuse to do so. ( getting you lazy and high also gets 80% to shut up and out of the way, excellent strategy)

    Serious health problems and you benefit that's fine, want to get off prescription drugs, fine, use the oil or vaporize, and change your damn diets and run a mile to let your body peristaltics do what its supposed to do, pump life around, for god sakes, but I can assure you this, most people only want to join in for he HYPE, don't make this into another distraction like football, baseball or tv or divisive politics.

    Don't get me wrong here, I am ALL for natural cures and hemp CAN be one of them, but only when done right.

    Quote And, Lindsey said, medical marijuana patients will be both fingerprinted and required to go through a background check. In most states, he said, only growers or providers have to get fingerprinted. There will also be a cap on the number of dispensaries.
    FUBAR, what is all this about, don't fall for it. If you need medication you must not need a job eh, fingerprinted for being sick and background checks, this will and can be used against you, or do you only need medication in your spare time?
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    Default Re: Medical Marijuana To Be Legal in Illinois in Jan 2014 : )

    When a state legalizes medical marijuana, there are still many people against it...especially law enforcement and doctors....therefore, there is much hype about tight regulations, where to put dispensaries (usually takes a year or more after the bill is passed to set them up), etc as a show for people not happy with the new law.

    Medical marijuana was a godsend for my son, who is extremely sensitive to big pharma's chemical "medicines" and suffered side effects such as vomiting for four days straight, suicidal thoughts to the point he would ask me to stay with him to make sure he didn't harm himself, and more. The pain management specialist prescribed morphine after he ended up in the emergency room from the effects of a steroid injection...until she decided to no longer accept his insurance. Find a doctor who prescribes opiates, was her comment. Well, good luck with that...no doctors in the area prescribe opiates.

    The medical marijuana law became effective January 1st of this year...he got his medical marijuana card January 16th thanks to CannaMed that opened in our state. (Most doctors don't know marijuana's use as a medicine and will not prescribe...so good luck with that one.) It is a godsend to people in severe chronic pain, like my son. He has a wonderful caregiver who grows for him and knows the best strains for his particular needs.

    After battling the medical industry for over five years, he is finally going to have surgery this coming Monday to remove a slipped vertebrae that was grinding bone on bone with another vertebrae and on Tuesday he will have a spinal fusion. Even after surgery, he will be in pain (tho' much less, hopefully) for the rest of his life.

    There are so many people who need this medicine...they are the one's who will suffer if it is taken away because some people will take advantage for their own recreational use.

    "Authorities" use laws against it to enforce their control over people and take away personal freedom to choose for ourselves...it is they who have created these problems over a weed that grows wild and freely for our use....and we let them get away with this. When will we ever say "enough!", and take back our liberty and personal freedoms?

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    Default Re: Medical Marijuana To Be Legal in Illinois in Jan 2014 : )

    great,i would love to get this? but can not get it in the uk?unless you grow the plants ,which is illegal here...

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    Default Romania Legalizes Medical Marijuana

    Like the cold war Berlin Wall, the tide is turning as people are becoming more aware.

    I encourage all peoples to understand that marijuana, contrary to what we were once taught, is beneficial to human health.

    I saw this news article and thought I would share.






    Bulgaria:

    Romania Legalizes Medical Marijuana

    Romania has become the tenth EU Member State to legalize medical marijuana!

    Romania has legalized the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes.

    According to Romania-Insider, as cited by Sega daily, the possession and use of marijuana for any purposes was illegal prior to the changes.

    However, the country's legislation on narcotic substances has been changed to provide that derivatives of the plant may be used to alleviate pains and the reduce seizure frequency in cases of epilepsy, cancer, multiple sclerosis, etc.

    Romania is the tenth EU Member State to legalize medical marijuana.

    Tests are currently underway to determine the efficiency of administering marijuana to patients suffering from Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, and Tourette syndrome.


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    Default Justin Trudeau says Stephen Harper is wrong on medical marijuana, offers alternatives

    For those folks who are unaware who Justin Trudeau is, he is the son of a very once famous and well respected Canadian Prime Minister during the 1970's.




    Well turns out his son, is following his father's footsteps as he gains popularity in Canadian politics. As of late, he has gained a great deal of notoriety due to his advocacy for the legalization of medical marijuana.

    I saw this story and thought I would share it with other folks on Avalon who may share an interest.

    I believe the greatest plants for helping humanity would include cannabis, also known as marijuana.






    Justin Trudeau is concerned about the Harper government's "nanny state" approach to medical marijuana.


    Justin Trudeau is unimpressed with the Harper government's approach to medical marijuana.

    During an appearance at the University of Manitoba on Wednesday (October 9), he told the assembled crowd that he would like to see medical marijuana patients retain the ability to grow their own pot.

    "The current approach is not working," the federal Liberal leader told the group after being asked what his stance was on medical marijuana and the rights of patients to grow their own supply.

    Under the outgoing Marihuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR), a person must apply for a permit to possess marijuana. If approved, they then have the options of either producing their own product or purchasing it from a licensed grower or Health Canada. But as of April 1, 2014, the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR) will come into effect, and patients will only be able to obtain medical marijuana from licensed producers.

    The federal government claims the MMPR will "provide access to quality-controlled marihuana for medical purposes, produced under secure and sanitary conditions". However, as it eliminates the ability for medical marijuana patients to grow their own pot, activist fear many people will no longer have access to specialized strains they have relied on. As well, dispensaries and many compassion clubs will have to close under the new rules, and there are fears the new system will increase prices.

    "It's actually amazing to see the kinds of specialization and research that is beginning to be done into what strains actually address which problems very effectively in many, many cases," Trudeau said. "And our worries are that the current hypercontrolled approach around medical marijuana that actually removes from individuals the capacity to grow their own is not going in the right direction. It neither respects freedom or the kind of care that people need."

    Trudeau advocated a legalization system similar to how alcohol is controlled in Canada. "If someone wants to brew their own beer or make their own wine, they're more than welcome to. But the vast majority of consumers are happy to go to a liquor store to purchase their alcohol because its of known quality. And the choices available to consumers and the knowledge of what it is that goes into what you're buying empowers consumers," he told the crowd.

    "This is the kind of approach we need to take: one grounded in evidence, one grounded in science, one grounded in liberty."

    While Trudeau stressed the need to protect the developing brains of teenagers from using marijuana ("like alcohol and cigarettes"), he reiterated that individuals should have freedom of choice when it comes to accessing medical marijuana.

    "We don't need to be all nanny state about it the way Stephen Harper is with his prohibition," Trudeau said.



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    Default New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    For many people who use marijuana for medical purposes, they have witnessed a great deal of changes in the past few years since the first announcement by the Canadian Government back in sometime in 1998

    Myself I advocate that folks who use marijuana for medical use should be able to grow it. Very much I see it the same way as denying an Italian the right to grow tomatoes for his pasta or grapes for his wine.



    Anyhow, I thought it would be an interesting news item to pass along.





    Ian Mulgrew: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit

    End to home-growing will make pot unaffordable to many medical pot users





    Long-time Fraser Valley marijuana crusader John Conroy is finalizing a lawsuit accusing Ottawa of infringing on the rights of medical pot users and growers.

    He and a handful of other lawyers working on the lawsuit to be filed in Federal Court within weeks have reviewed more than 3,000 victim impact statements from across the country to pick the 15 best representatives.

    Conroy says the new Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations recently adopted by Health Canada violate several sections of the constitution. In particular, he claims the radical changes introduced by Ottawa to end home-growing and designated production will unduly restrict the safe access by patients to their medication.

    “The suit has taken longer to frame than expected,” Conroy said.

    “Still, we’re going to be looking for injunctive relief so that after March 31 — when the new rules come into effect — the status quo is maintained until after the court ruling so there is no damage done to these people and they have a supply of medicine.”

    Approved patients — 60 to 70 per cent of whom are on fixed disability pensions — are going to suffer under the new regime, Conroy explained, because they will no longer be able to grow their own medicine nor use a designated grower.

    The soon-to-be-available medical marijuana will be too expensive, he added.

    Under the new program that starts in the spring, patients will be forced to purchase pot from licensed producers who will distribute various strains of dried cannabis by mail for an estimated price of between $8 and $10 a gram.

    Most can grow their own for between $1 and $4 a gram, Conroy said.

    “Thousands and thousands of patients are approved to use more than 10 grams a day — that’s $100 a day at the new rates. No one can afford that,” Conroy said.

    “We’re not asking the government to spend money and support these people. We’re just asking they be allowed to keep doing what they have been allowed to do. We think they should at the very least grandfather-in the current personal production licences.”

    As of Dec. 31, under the old Marihuana Medical Access Regulations, there were more than 28,000 patients with exemptions allowing them to possess and consume medical marijuana; 18,063 people had a personal-use production licence and there were 3,400 other designated producers.

    There were also more than 5,000 buying pot or seeds from Health Canada and its sole supplier for the past 13 years, Prairie Plant Systems.

    So far, Prairie Plant and CanniMed, its subsidiary, are the only approved licensed producers for the new system but the government is reviewing scores of other application.

    One of the delays in organizing the suit, Conroy said, was sorting out whether current growers applying to become licensed producers could participate: “I thought it was a good idea for them to participate.”

    He added there are other problematic concerns with the new order — compassion clubs and dispensaries remain illegal and there’s no provision for derivatives, edibles and non-smokable cannabis products.

    No matter, Health Canada is creating an entirely different regulatory landscape that many believe may herald a gold rush-style medical marijuana market boom.

    In a freedom-of-information request in connection with this litigation, Ottawa revealed that the total authorized annual consumption of dried cannabis as of April was more than 188,189 kg!

    That’s roughly 415,000 pounds — or more than $1.5 billion at $8 to $10 a gram!

    Health Canada expects that to increase dramatically so its no wonder the prospect of this new legitimate market is stirring robust commercial interest.

    Cannabis has gone from being the stuff of Cheech and Chong skits to the substance of Dun & Bradstreet reports.

    If their constitutional challenge is unsuccessful, Conroy said the growers will consider litigation to recover the investment they made to modify their homes or garages to grow pot.

    (Here is Health Canada’s web page on medical marijuana: http://bit.ly/1isiEa5)

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    ...see it the same way as denying an Italian the right to grow tomatoes for his pasta or grapes for his wine
    Agreed. And I would add denying a surfer the right to ride that rolling wave!

    That looks like a great bud, Vitalux...wonder if this is your forefinger?

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    This is actually a serious issue. The Canadian Government (sorry, the "Harper" government) is basically trying to destroy that very fast growing medicinal marijuana movement in Canada -- right now it is huge, and accessible due to the legality being put into doctors hands. Drs. can prescribe the stuff and sign any permit forms for both growing and using medicinal pot. "Harpy's Government" wants to take that freedom away from people, to protect his Big Pharma's budddies' profits. Trust me, he cares way more about sustaining their greed than any Canadian's health.

    Harper has got to go ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    This is actually a serious issue. The Canadian Government (sorry, the "Harper" government) is basically trying to destroy that very fast growing medicinal marijuana movement in Canada -- right now it is huge, and accessible due to the legality being put into doctors hands. Drs. can prescribe the stuff and sign any permit forms for both growing and using medicinal pot. "Harpy's Government" wants to take that freedom away from people, to protect his Big Pharma's budddies' profits. Trust me, he cares way more about sustaining their greed than any Canadian's health.

    Harper has got to go ...


    who are the majority shareholders at Prairie Plant Systems?

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    This is actually a serious issue. The Canadian Government (sorry, the "Harper" government) is basically trying to destroy that very fast growing medicinal marijuana movement in Canada -- right now it is huge, and accessible due to the legality being put into doctors hands. Drs. can prescribe the stuff and sign any permit forms for both growing and using medicinal pot. "Harpy's Government" wants to take that freedom away from people, to protect his Big Pharma's budddies' profits. Trust me, he cares way more about sustaining their greed than any Canadian's health.

    Harper has got to go ...


    who are the majority shareholders at Prairie Plant Systems?
    My guess is Pharma has an interest in this -- the certainly have motivation ... Pharma wants it restricted though - more than they want to own it, because pataents still are not available, but if they can get they real genuine hardworking people to do all the work to create a system for them, all they then need to do is tighten their control.

    Here is some more info on the topic -- which indicates it's movement toward "pharma" like systems of control.

    http://www.ffwdweekly.com/article/ne...rijuana-11031/
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    Quote My guess is Pharma has an interest in this -- the certainly have motivation ... Pharma wants it restricted though - more than they want to own it, because pataents still are not available, but if they can get they real genuine hardworking people to do all the work to create a system for them, all they then need to do is tighten their control.
    True, true, true and five more truths.

    HOWEVER, if this ( video below) is the American and perhaps Canadian approach of solving the issue so far they have done a crap job, I am from Holland as you can see by the big huge red white and blue flag above my avatar and I smoked for about 20+ years and we got our greens and browns from the so called coffeeshops and let me tell you, we are light years ahead of you and a bit more civilized if I may say, I just saw the below video and OMFG what a bunch of idiots, riding the hype just because they can, just to kick and stab it around and be obnoxious, that is exactly what tptb want you to become in a setting like that, very depressing to watch, no way those people are getting MEDICINE, all they want is smoke their brains out and in a very uncivilized way too, these people are exactly the reason why its so hard to get a movement of the ground in a decent way, and not a relaxing cup of tea in sight, no juice, not a book in sight, no interesting conversations going on, nothing, just clouds of smoke by people who look like they are exactly the best examples of the problems we are facing today, spoiled, manipulated, brainwashed, subversion of a nation in action, created by tptb ( mission accomplished, you're f@cked), give us what we want and **** off, thats what I am seeing, no need to hype this sort of stuff really, the second this takes off big time it will be taxed up to high heaven, you will be registered, job applications will be a problem, health insurance will become a problem, and you will feel like a complete idiot, unemployed, disappointed, ****faced stoned, lazy as hell, and and and and and and , just what the world currently needs, idiots who need a half hour to formulate a sentence, and giggle and say 'duh' a lot, need I continue???

    I have a lot of experience with this stuff and let me tell you, those people did not look like responsible recreational smokers, non of them.

    Sorry for dragging another thread off topic once again, but there you go, that's where this will lead to, if not worse, these are not the friendly 60/70 anymore, no more flying the friendly skies without consequence, they want you as drunk, high, medicated, screwed up, braindead as they possibly can, you better make sure that if you want to get into this business you do it the RIGHT way and in a responsible way, not like ( see below), yech


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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    Washington state is having similar issues, OP -- we are all worried that the state will somehow take away patients' rights to home-grow their preferred strains of medical marijuana.

    They want the price to stay high when people being able to grow at home would reduce the price dramatically -- you see, they just want another luxury to tax, and they simply do not care about the medical benefit or the poor.

    You should all support cheap, home-grown pot -- because the states are going to pull a fast one and monopolize grows.

    P.s. might want to check out the east coast corp "KannaLife" - trying to patent cannabidiol

    see where big pharma is headed with this.

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    Quote You should all support cheap, home-grown pot -- because the states are going to pull a fast one and monopolize grows.
    We have a winner, that's the BEST way in ANY case! If you want/need it, make it YOURS!

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    How long do your Presidents serve in Canada? Seriously, after Bush, I'd have thought Canadians would have thrown Harper and the harpette elites, out of their government. But alas, I see you have the same problem, we have her in the states. WE have a good honest Pres, that tried to work with both sides in some sort of compromise. There are people like Schumer and a few others, that are tied at the hip in certain Gov program stocks, that have been allowed to go to WS markets. First it was healthcare, (Nixon/Kissinger), then 401k and deregulation RE-gain Papa Bush, and then Puplic's prescription drug control, and now they want to hand it all in control, of the same pillagers of the villagers. Same crap, different decade?
    It used to be follow the money and now it's follow the bonds or stocks shares they are amassing while they screw the people. You want to know how dirty they are? Find out how they earn so much, if they weren't born into wealth?
    The more payola on their accounts that doesn't come from the hours put in at work, or their own stock increase derivative amounts, than that means "all that cheddar" is off the books bribes or election do me a favor money.

    Isn't bribery, still against the law, or have they bought the laws, judges, juries, and media?
    Healthcare needed real human patients suffering from their illnesses, and put on "Public Broadcasting and or news on the good things pot does, the amount of money saved by the people growing their own, and why charge twice the price, for handling, growing and processing, if people that need pot for illness, chronic, and costly illnesses, are allowed to grow it like parsley, basil? It is an "herb" and should be treated the same as a spice, even if it treats illness, because it's harmless, and a wonderful cure.
    It's time we took our right to choose OUR health system, since "it is ours and our families bodies, they inject, neglect and overcharge for. Some doc specialist spend about 15 minutes and make close to 20,000 if they are using hospital testing equipement which is already covered under the insurance. Not all, but they are a dastardly double dealing get paid on both sides of 'any' issue souless wanders that are never satisfied, like a vampire, their next neck, is just that, another neck on another day.
    It's time for Universal Healthcare, where Clinics are clean, safe and qualified good doctors and nursing staff, that can have interns coming out of college, train at the clinics, in a 'hands on" training and environment.
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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    Lifebringer

    Here in Canada we are part of the British Commonwealth so we have Queen Elizabeth as our Sovereign and Monarch. Ultimately, she still owns Canada and all it's people.

    We do have an elected government, but it really in truth is a de facto government. It has no power to actually make laws or change things.
    We can't make any changes or create new laws without the Queens approval.
    That is why, in the British commonwealth countries marijuana is still a restricted substance.

    So kicking Harper out of Government will not change anything, nor will putting anyone else in Government.

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    I was care taking for a lady that was taking 80MG of Pregnizone each day, and it had her bouncing off the walls, on top of that nausea... with her breathing problems, she couldn't move around.

    one day I dropped by a friends and got a tiny bud, heated water, and put 3 tiny leaves in and made tea...

    she drank it and within a few sips you could see her calming down, by the end of the cup, she went to sleep...

    that was 3 tiny leaves...

    that is how medical marijuana is used, not a dozen people sitting around and smoking an ounce of $300 bud

    the large pharmaceutical companies understand the value of marijuana, but the right will disappear as they move it to pills and inhalers that doesn't clog the lungs with smoke.

    legalizing it means you will by a pack of Marlboro greens, for $5 a jar of Patron...

    they will make it so cheap it doesn't make sense to use precious space in your yard for growing weeds...

    in legal states, potheads will be able to get all they want, without affecting those using it for medical reasons...

    all the states care about is getting their taxes either way, that is why home growers are going to lose the right...

    why pay taxes on what grows for free?
    why buy gas when we can propel our cars for free?
    why buy electricity when we can power our homes for free?

    nothing that makes sense will ever move forward without an ability to be taxed or profited by Wall Street Commodity overlords...

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    Default Re: New medical marijuana rule about to face lawsuit in Canada - a worth while read.

    Well now, Rocky -- lol

    Marijuana seems to be hypo-allergenic; people who are unable to smoke a cigarette might not have the same reaction to marijuana.

    The tea you described seems very light/weak; the Indian whirling dervishes used a LOT more weed in their tea than a few tiny leaves.
    In fact "bhang tea" is very powerful, and eating a medical brownie can turn your lights off pretty fast compared to smoking (if you are used to it).

    Don't be too hard on the smokers -- it's an easy way to measure and keep track of consumption, and mete out smaller doses than you'd get in a brownie or a concentrate.

    Pills won't contain the whole plant -- they will contain extracts such as CBD, and whereas CBD is wonderful, it should not be patented,
    and marijuana evolved with many other wonderful substances inside; we should be careful about refining it too much (that's how other drugs are made addictive).

    Think about it this way: the plant in nearly any form (of preparation) yields benefits, ranging from anti-stress to anti-cancer.
    It literally evolved to attract humans (by means of the immediate effects) so that humans would protect and cultivate it.
    The psychoactive part is like a pheromone that attracts people and gets them interested in the plant, whereas the long-term anti-cancer, anti-parkinson's etc. effects are not immediately apparent, but the plant was "wise" enough to evolve these qualities in order to ensure that humans would continue to cultivate (preserve!) the species.

    Pot smokers aren't 100% cool -- but like any group of people, there are many examples of success. Like Carl Sagan. He admitted to pot smoking.
    It make his writing open up. Reader's Digest's book on Psychic Detectives mentions Cannabis also, in the context of writing and clairvoyance.

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    Quote Posted by Vitalux (here)
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    Here in Canada we are part of the British Commonwealth so we have Queen Elizabeth as our Sovereign and Monarch. Ultimately, she still owns Canada and all it's people.

    We do have an elected government, but it really in truth is a de facto government. It has no power to actually make laws or change things.
    We can't make any changes or create new laws without the Queens approval.
    That is why, in the British commonwealth countries marijuana is still a restricted substance.

    So kicking Harper out of Government will not change anything, nor will putting anyone else in Government.
    No laws can be created or destroyed anyway -- that's how most countries actually work.

    What power the government does have is to create policy, regulations and statutes, and as well, precedents can be set by the courts - we have no laws that say "Thou shalt not grow or possess marijuana - including for medicinal purposes". Since we don't have any law anywhere that says this - then that means the implement in place is a statute -- not a law. Therefore we don't need the queen's approval to abolish the prohibition statutes.

    So kicking Harper out just might get the job done after all

    There are quite "few" Laws actually in Canada - compared to the statutes, policies and precedents that have been created since the laws were enacted -- all of these can be changed by our government.

    I may not really know what I am talking about -- I'm trying to recall politics from grade 11 It's been a while

    EDIT: I did a bit more research and the "controlled substances act" is entirely a statute -- not Law.

    "The Controlled Drugs and Substances Act is Canada's federal drug control statute."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control...Substances_Act
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    Quote Posted by 778 neighbour of some guy (here)
    Quote My guess is Pharma has an interest in this -- the certainly have motivation ... Pharma wants it restricted though - more than they want to own it, because pataents still are not available, but if they can get they real genuine hardworking people to do all the work to create a system for them, all they then need to do is tighten their control.
    True, true, true and five more truths.

    HOWEVER, if this ( video below) is the American and perhaps Canadian approach of solving the issue so far they have done a crap job, I am from Holland as you can see by the big huge red white and blue flag above my avatar and I smoked for about 20+ years and we got our greens and browns from the so called coffeeshops and let me tell you, we are light years ahead of you and a bit more civilized if I may say, I just saw the below video and OMFG what a bunch of idiots, riding the hype just because they can, just to kick and stab it around and be obnoxious, that is exactly what tptb want you to become in a setting like that, very depressing to watch, no way those people are getting MEDICINE, all they want is smoke their brains out and in a very uncivilized way too, these people are exactly the reason why its so hard to get a movement of the ground in a decent way, and not a relaxing cup of tea in sight, no juice, not a book in sight, no interesting conversations going on, nothing, just clouds of smoke by people who look like they are exactly the best examples of the problems we are facing today, spoiled, manipulated, brainwashed, subversion of a nation in action, created by tptb ( mission accomplished, you're f@cked), give us what we want and **** off, thats what I am seeing, no need to hype this sort of stuff really, the second this takes off big time it will be taxed up to high heaven, you will be registered, job applications will be a problem, health insurance will become a problem, and you will feel like a complete idiot, unemployed, disappointed, ****faced stoned, lazy as hell, and and and and and and , just what the world currently needs, idiots who need a half hour to formulate a sentence, and giggle and say 'duh' a lot, need I continue???

    I have a lot of experience with this stuff and let me tell you, those people did not look like responsible recreational smokers, non of them.

    Sorry for dragging another thread off topic once again, but there you go, that's where this will lead to, if not worse, these are not the friendly 60/70 anymore, no more flying the friendly skies without consequence, they want you as drunk, high, medicated, screwed up, braindead as they possibly can, you better make sure that if you want to get into this business you do it the RIGHT way and in a responsible way, not like ( see below), yech

    I find losers can turn up anywhere -- and they usually aren't smoking pot ...
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    Leaf introduces Dr. William Courtney and Kristen Peskuski of Cannabis International; along with the people involved in researching, promoting, regulating and benefiting from raw cannabis.

    Dr. Courtney is a physician and researcher from Mendocino, California, who gives medical marijuana approvals to qualified patients in Mendocino and Humboldt Counties. Kristen Peskuski is a researcher and patient who put her systemic lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, interstitial cystitis, and numerous other conditions into remission juicing fresh cannabis.

    They help make sense of the science behind patient's recoveries from a diverse range of medical conditions. Attorneys, physicians, law enforcement, medical care providers, patients and their families discuss their experiences with medical cannabis. They specifically focus on juicing fresh cannabis, which is non-psychoactive and contains medical properties 200-400 times stronger than traditional, heated cannabis.

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