Pentagon "knows" the importance of placing brain implants in soldiers

[Bob]

The Pentagon has determined that soldiers must have the brain implant "black box" because if they have an injury the "box" will help them remember...

Gee that's really a fantastic justifier isn't it? (and Saddam had biological weapons factories too, if we look at the reports justifying the first gulf war - see: http://www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info/)

From ref: http://www.geek.com/science/pentagon...plant-1584484/

You know, planes have the black boxes to explain to those who autopsy the plane after a crash, what went wrong, as there are similar in some cars these days too.

The idea of the black box, recorder, capturing whats' going on with the "machine".

Well you know, the biological organism is such a messy organism, and making it comply with machine-like precision is the goal of the military programming mindset, for the better more equipped machine soldier...

Ideally a predator drone, be it a flying drone or a robotic mule is a better tool for following orders, or thinking on its own killing on command program. Who needs Manchurian Candidates, or MK-Ultras when the programming to get into the organic's and diddle around for compliance is becoming a precedent.

The justification is a stimulator receiver implant will help restore damaged memories.

Of course it could just as easily stimulate the amygdala to trigger intense fear, hate, block the LOGIC of it is wrong to kill another, and have a fighting machine follow orders.

Let the world never forget Delgado's experiments with implanting electrodes into dumb animals - the raging bull expriment. In this model Delgado showed the powers that be that the brain is able to be controlled wirelessly, with an implant triggering selected areas - with a push of a button, Delgado showed that this attacking "animal" would become a "Ferdinand pussycat".

The pentagon never forgot that experiment. It was only a matter of knowing WHERE to stimulate, where to hook up the receiving electrodes. The programs that DARPA has instituted with getting SCHOOL CHILDREN to have access to low cost "easily affordable" brain reading headsets, and encouraged to submit the data when the formative mind is growing up shows they WANT TO KNOW and get children to unknowingly submit data.. ref: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101062968

and the step into primates was easy as pie..

yup, help someone remember, or not.. "just push the button Colonel, your troops are waiting.."

[naste.de.lumina]

Dear friend Bobd.

I think there are two distinct transhumanist agendas.
The first for members of the super elite. Here they seek immortality and physical perfection.
The second is for the common people (us). Here they look for ways to tailor to create humanoid to perform the tasks according to their needs. The robot (deployed) war is only one of numerous configurations that are possible for the activities of slaves.

Hugs.

Naste.

[Bob]

Hugs to you brother Naste

Transhumanist agreed..

Military because they can - the budget is there, the desire is there.. a more compliant soldier means push-button wars..

These points: more-so.. I had replied to Camilo in another post about the overall PTB mindset, something deeper than just immortality to preserve themselves..

here below more on this series of thoughts..

When we understand quantum computing, viewed from the definition of the idea behind "quantum holographic information" creation, we find that in the quantum hologram, one creates reality.. i.e. "thoughts become things".. This is the premise, the focus.. That has been explored as early as the 60's with the protest marches, the mindset to go for Peace, make LOVE not war.. Mass coherence of thought using music and a focal point on a drama to gather group attention, and group eventual manipulation of outcome. That bothered TPTB, they saw change happen by group intention, and when coherence happened (less noise) more change happened. ref: http://chasemillis.hubpages.com/hub/...hanged-America

The military does not want any soldier to be thinking about things. Order given, DO or else. Clear as possible. All training is follow orders, no protest, no question, no '60s mentality (erase delete that period in history)..

We've seen these early concepts discussed with groups before in the early 80's at the outset of the "practicality of group control".. (why is group a worry for TPTB in other words).. can a group mindset do something.. can information being expressed in a space time matrix create "waves", then create particles. Is the seed thought coherently vibrated enough able to do anything in the matter world?

"Random noise breaks apart quantumly cohered thought-forms." We have heard this mentioned over and over, that the quality of information must be kept at a good signal to noise ratio, meaning that noise must be kept to a minimum when the thought-forms being manipulated are to actualize. - ref: http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/...5_4_045027.pdf (The amount of coherent collective motion can be measured by an ‘order parameter’ defined as the magnitude of the globally averaged velocity vector. Slight noise causes systems to start to FLOCK together, we see groups start to form, cliques in other words, but a sufficiently LARGE NOISE level causes the systems to break apart, and loose the quantum coherence).

This concept: to get a group to cohere, some "drama is needed", a focal point to which the group focuses. When there is focus, the manipulation happens (by inducing just enough random events for steering) to get as many minds occupied as tightly and coherently as possible to create quantum wave energy. Think of a surfer looking for a wave, to ride the wave there needs to be enough wind to make the sea high enough to ride on.

At the point of focus, there is an opportunity for quantum manipulation happening to the group, to "sway" the group into more and more cohesion in the direction of the "actualization". In the military this activity is psychological operations. That is the minimum use of quantum holographic engineering.. Too much drama and the system falls apart, just right and the wave builds.

-- the result was the group is able to sway, modify/alter the apparent randomness of "events". We have seen this discussed, that the power of the group to influence reality is happening.
See: http://noosphere.princeton.edu/ being run through Princeton University researchers - Global Consciousness Coherence project touches on this but IMO does not clarify the quantum mechanism sufficiently to show how such can be used for nefarious purposes. The assumption is that nefarious purposes use such techniques to induce focused coherence for the lesser few, possibly the elitists, who would rather survive in what they consider as optimum, at the expense of the masses enabling their activities..

Studies such as done through the Princeton group have documented group consciousness focus can alter random events.. Sometimes they are saying there are precog changes happening before the event of significance happens.. (more on that point's significance later..)

This is the belief as I see it:

TPTB realized that the organic has free will (to an extent that it is not totally hooked into the rest of the group mind).. and that bothers them.

IMHO, to put the aspect of "group quantum holographic information" creation/manipulation into a synthetic, which mimics or even exceeds the biologic, HAS BEEN TPTB's goal.

A synthetic, a sufficiently developed massive smart system, quantumly expressing information actualization (expressed in space-time modulation), will affect at the quantum level events about to occur or sway events that are occurring. The presumption is, "thoughts can become things.." (see definition of the Noosphere - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere - where the emergence of human cognition fundamentally transforms the biosphere. Cognition, or "ah ha" aware ness, focusing thoughts on things enables affects of the surrounding biological environment).

When THAT POWER (to create things at the quantum level) is in the synthetic, because that synthetic has been created by TPTB, there is no longer any need for the BIOLOGIC..

At that point, TPTB no longer need the human, or any organic to do it's bidding.. IMHO that is the agenda really for the transhumanism, not to create immorality, but to rewrite the scenario in a way that only a computer mind can do, with repeated precision, duplication, and manifestation at the quantum level, for reality to shape eventually into.

THAT IMHO is the OUTCOME of this drama.. (sigh) The humans and other biologics are "noise" that has to be controlled by TPTB to get their outcome as they desire, at the expense of all others.

TIME: 10 years in the future - A Question at this point is now being asked discussed in the remaining Forums, sometimes in the quiet, maybe in the coffee shop now run by Coke, now that the Biologics (the organics) have "woken up" (ah hum..), will the biologics choose to bow down to the synthetics (and assume the role of useless eaters)?

refs - the biological quantum computer - http://faculty.nps.edu/baer/CompMod-phys/SPIE09QuantumComputerPaper_04-7342-3/SPIE09QuantumComputerPaper_04-7342-3.htm

[Cidersomerset]

This reminded me of something during most of the big wars especially
with conscripted or drafted armies and some professional forces as well.
It is not a natural instinct to kill a fellow human especially in cold blood,
during the heat of battle is a different matter and although some may
freeze others will switch into survival mode.

A good implant maybe able to switch any GI into a killing machine...


There have been many reports from veterans about this.

Men Against Fire: How Many Soldiers Actually Fired
Their Weapons at the Enemy During the Vietnam War

http://www.historynet.com/men-agains...ietnam-war.htm

http://www.military-sf.com/Killing.htm

Against common belief most humans are not all 'Natural Born Killers...

[Roisin]

If my son was in the military in combat somewhere, I DEFINITELY, would be getting better sleep at night if I knew he has a GPS implant in him should he get hit by the enemy or captured by them for that matter. No question about that!

[Bob]

Posted by Roisin (here)
If my son was in the military in combat somewhere, I DEFINITELY, would be getting better sleep at night if I knew he has a GPS implant in him should he get hit by the enemy or captured by them for that matter. No question about that!

GPS is kinda large, and right now the technique is to put GPS inside of the back pack system.. There has been discussion as putting such smart items as biological monitors in the helmets to be able to report back if hit/wounded, what the biological life signs are (and location). Implants for GPS isn't something practical due to the size requirement of the antennas.. But the idea of brain implants with microchips are a reality. There are some good threads in the Forum on that too.

What Steve mentions above, the programmed to kill is enabled by interfering with the Amygdala. Surgical intervention in that area, or chemical psychosurgery intervention in that area has been able to remove the human morality factor. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17707682

There is an excellent thread started by Carmody which goes over a discussion about sociopaths, psychopaths.. I may have pointed out the amygdala issue in that thread, but if you look at the article in the National Institutes of Health (above), you can see this:

"This model proposes that the amygdala, through stimulus-reinforcement learning, enables the association of actions that harm others with the aversive reinforcement of the victims' distress. Consequent information on reinforcement expectancy, fed forward to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex, can guide the healthy individual away from moral transgressions. In psychopathy, dysfunction in these structures means that care-based moral reasoning is compromised and the risk that antisocial behavior is used instrumentally to achieve goals is increased."

In English that means, messing around with the pathways of intervention of the Amygdala in the brain can make a monster, a cold blooded killer with ZERO remorse. A perfect soldier.

[Shezbeth]

Excellent thread Bobd,... again.

I had two 'big' thoughts on reading this thread, and the one leads into the other.

The first thought, in response to your suggested 'necessitating event', well that's an easy one (I assume). If and when the US becomes a full-on martial law police state, and there is armed resistence and (here's the crucial point) active and former military join the people,... well there you go. Justification for chipping any current/future military personnel to prevent 'sedition' or whatever they will claim.

Interjection - This (newly) reminds me of Star Wars during the height of the Empire. Palpatine was a master of using the force to control, refine, streamline, and augment the perception, participation, communication, and coordination of his forces. They don't go into much detail in the movies, but absent Palpatine (and Thrawn for those in the know) the Imperial forces were soundly wiped up because they couldn't organize effectively.

The point with that reference is to indicate that the intent of the 'Empire' would be to take over the minds of the 'Imperial forces' to make them superior to everyone else (except of course, those who are somewhat inclined toward the force,...). But enough of that, back to my points.

The technocrats are aware that their plans are not universally accepted or approved. This has been made sparklingly clear through groups like Oathkeepers, or the major response of military when queried if they would fire on civilians if ordered to. Remember the "No more hesitation" shooting targets from a couple years ago? With chips, one needn't even condition the person, they'd just shut off the part of the brain which would conflict! Imagine the lack of hesitation in a person who has literally ZERO agenda beyond following their orders/commands! Psychopaths and sociopaths couldn't even compete! Chip-anzees (I'm on a roll today!) wouldn't even care about surviving if the orders were clear! Now we're talking about smart-zombie-kamikazee-stormtroopers! The powers wouldn't even need to advertize the 'real' purpose of the chips either! They could market it as a GPS-esque/Comm device (which it would be) and then right before engaging 'click'. Imagine how many returning vets would describe how dreamlike the experience was? How their thoughts came into focus, their senses were heightened? Participants would likely sing praises!

Which, if successful, would naturally transition into something along the lines of the Georgia Guidestones, which was suggested by Naste (without the stones correlation). Whoever said that the 'resultant population' had to have any free will? The level I speak of is (hopefully) vastly far off, but depending on the way the chess game is played, it is possible that the Hegelian dialectic could be used to incrementally and progressively transition into a world where the people are required to be chipped. A few well-timed labor riots could necessitate (require) it for jobs, more school shootings could require it for schools. Heck, technically this was alluded to in Ender's Game at the very beginning; Remember the monitor?

[Milneman]

Posted by Roisin (here)
If my son was in the military in combat somewhere, I DEFINITELY, would be getting better sleep at night if I knew he has a GPS implant in him should he get hit by the enemy or captured by them for that matter. No question about that!

But what if the chip in his brain that acts as a gps also acts as a kill switch? No need to worry about name, rank, and serial number...one push of the button, no longer an issue.

[Roisin]

Posted by Bobd (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
If my son was in the military in combat somewhere, I DEFINITELY, would be getting better sleep at night if I knew he has a GPS implant in him should he get hit by the enemy or captured by them for that matter. No question about that!

GPS is kinda large, and right now the technique is to put GPS inside of the back pack system.. There has been discussion as putting such smart items as biological monitors in the helmets to be able to report back if hit/wounded, what the biological life signs are (and location). Implants for GPS isn't something practical due to the size requirement of the antennas.. But the idea of brain implants with microchips are a reality. There are some good threads in the Forum on that too.

What Steve mentions above, the programmed to kill is enabled by interfering with the Amygdala. Surgical intervention in that area, or chemical psychosurgery intervention in that area has been able to remove the human morality factor. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17707682

There is an excellent thread started by Carmody which goes over a discussion about sociopaths, psychopaths.. I may have pointed out the amygdala issue in that thread, but if you look at the article in the National Institutes of Health (above), you can see this:

"This model proposes that the amygdala, through stimulus-reinforcement learning, enables the association of actions that harm others with the aversive reinforcement of the victims' distress. Consequent information on reinforcement expectancy, fed forward to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex, can guide the healthy individual away from moral transgressions. In psychopathy, dysfunction in these structures means that care-based moral reasoning is compromised and the risk that antisocial behavior is used instrumentally to achieve goals is increased."

In English that means, messing around with the pathways of intervention of the Amygdala in the brain can make a monster, a cold blooded killer with ZERO remorse. A perfect soldier.

I can understand the medical stuff due to my background and thanks for the update on that other stuff. Will check out your links. This is a great thread, btw. You are talking about things that most of us, including me are totally in the dark about. We know some things but not to the extent that you've shared thus far here in this thread. I have nephews in the Navy.

[Bob]

So who out there as a contractor has been developing these devices for DARPA?

ref: http://www.afcea.org/content/?q=node/10357 - "Researchers working for the U.S. Army have developed and patented a neural computer chip that mimics human brain functions and could potentially be used for quantum computing, which could harness the power of individual atoms to perform functions millions of times faster than conventional computers."

That reference is from 2012.

Two Army Research Laboratory (ARL) scientists—Keith Deacon and Ronald Meyers—patented the neural chip for the Army in September. They worked with Gert Cauwenberghs, a professor of bioengineering and biology and co-director of the Institute for Neural Computation at the University of California at San Diego.

"The technology uses synaptic connections for interfacing neurons and learning through feedback. “Some people would call it artificial intelligence, but it’s really a cooperative. The neurons are working together and cooperating with each other to try to learn and accomplish some task in an efficient manner."

I know this technique because in 1983 I published this technique in an IEEE signal intelligence special interest group before any others had an inkling how to deal with the data.

Strangely, at this time the movie Brainstorm appeared interestingly enough (the darker side of neural stimulation) - my belief is TPTB needed a distraction to take attention away from the report (that optimum level of noise was what they wanted to achieve).

I developed the technique for analyzing neural data with a functional outcome, so that "the blind will see, the lame will walk.." which was a statement that I made in the report and used by the media.

DARPA was there in the conference asking about how to achieve what is called "phase positional feedback" or a way to properly synchronize the computer to the brain. (they never had solved that problem completely to this day.)

Ronald E. Meyers

[naste.de.lumina]

Friend Bobd.

According to Schrödinger, the reality is created by consciousness through what he called in quantum physics as 'wave function collapse'. Occurs when the wave of problabilidades is collapsed and turns into matter. For it is necessary that the conscience believe that this 'reality' is true.
Said that, the chips implanted in people necessarily have to make them believe without a shadow of doubt, what is commanded them to believe (I'm not doubting that it is not possible, just pointing out a difficulty for this purpose), to operate the quantum collapse of the wave function and create the expected reality.

Maybe I have not quite understood the point of your argument, so I have
apologize in advance if this is the case.

Sincerely

Naste.

[Bob]

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)
Friend Bobd.

According to Schrödinger, the reality is created by consciousness through what he called in quantum physics as 'wave function collapse'. Occurs when the wave of problabilidades is collapsed and turns into matter. For it is necessary that the conscience believe that this 'reality' is true.
Said that, the chips implanted in people necessarily have to make them believe without a shadow of doubt, what is commanded them to believe (I'm not doubting that it is not possible, just pointing out a difficulty for this purpose), to operate the quantum collapse of the wave function and create the expected reality.

Maybe I have not quite understood the point of your argument, so I have
apologize in advance if this is the case.

Sincerely

Naste.

Hi Naste

good observation on Schrödinger and waves becoming solidified into particles, especially on observation (the collapse of the quantum assumption into quantum actuality on the observation).

I had mentioned space-time as the focal point into which for this modulation to occur.. And that sufficient repetition of these quantum collapses into particle to create a duration of the event.

Meaning, the more often the particle formation is accomplished before it decays, the stronger or more "real" it becomes. One person creating through quanta creates a non-lasting event, but a million creating the exact same event in perfect synchronism, perfect "phase" (timing in other words), overcomes the nature of events dissolving.

A computer system operating massively with many information terminals duplicating the quantum construct could rapidly create the wave function collapse (a synthetic beingness in other words would be the goal of the transhuman manipulators) operating to change or reshape the existing quantum matrix. This was postulated also during the discussions of meditation..

With a brain implant in a soldier selectively modulating the signal pathways of the amygdala, the bypassing of the senses to follow orders is possible, without any reference in the brain that to kill would be immoral. As Shezbeth pointed out in an above post:

Imagine the lack of hesitation in a person who has literally ZERO agenda beyond following their orders/commands!

Psychopaths and sociopaths couldn't even compete!

Chip-anzees (I'm on a roll today!) wouldn't even care about surviving if the orders were clear!

Now we're talking about smart-zombie-kamikazee-storm-troopers!

Adding a chip has the singular feature of creating a perfect soldier, a perfect killing machine. The point I am making with the "advanced use of synchronized behavior" is to alter the quantum outcome of reality through the use of multiple individual "brains" functioning as "one mind", focused on a particular drama.. Drama triggers the amygdala to make decision calls to find significance if the data coming in should be considered as something to be feared, or enjoyed (simply put). It ties into the parts of the brain dealing with morality.

As Cidersomerset pointed out:

This reminded me of something during most of the big wars especially
with conscripted or drafted armies and some professional forces as well.

It is not a natural instinct to kill a fellow human especially in cold blood,
during the heat of battle is a different matter and although some may
freeze others will switch into survival mode.

This is specifically what the amygdala is about - should the person react, or should the person freeze (during the freeze a decision may or may not be made, after querying the morality circuits, should one fight, kill, or run...

The dangers of the chipping is the selective modulation of normal morality, and normal functioning..

The deeper issues deal with, can group coherence modulation re-direct what we believe reality is. Would group implants operating to synchronize "thought" effectively modulate what we believe reality to be, through the wave collapse. It has been documented, that the neural data does in fact emit electromagnetic signals (waves). A very very simple observation then would be, waves dealing with "information" would be able to collapse into particles, and particles could in-fact cohere into observable effects... (that gets back to the Global Consciousness Coherence project by Princeton researchers, documenting this effect).

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Bobd (here)

The deeper issues deal with, can group coherence modulation re-direct what we believe reality is. Would group implants operating to synchronize "thought" effectively modulate what we believe reality to be, through the wave collapse. It has been documented, that the neural data does in fact emit electromagnetic signals (waves). A very very simple observation then would be, waves dealing with "information" would be able to collapse into particles, and particles could in-fact cohere into observable effects... (that gets back to the Global Consciousness Coherence project by Princeton researchers, documenting this effect).

Your overall analysis is perfectly resonate with my thoughts.

Will we be able to make enough noise?
Doubt undoes the collapse of the wave function. For us and for them. Get it?

We have to create lots of noise with doubt to affect the quantum reality of this paradigm sanatorium.

I also think it is a mistake to look only at the material Matrix thinking of solutions.

There are other dimensions that involve the earth, and there is also the consciousness that creates reality.
Much faster than here because its nature is less dense.

The dark command of all this drama is not physically here in 3D.

Spiritual Matrix. This is the real challenge to be understood and overcome.
I think there's a trick to mislead the perceiver earthly materials Matrix.

Well, I'm out of the topic.

Great topic my friend.

Hug.

Naste.

[Bob]

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)

Posted by Bobd (here)

The deeper issues deal with, can group coherence modulation re-direct what we believe reality is. [..]

[..]

Will we be able to make enough noise?
Doubt undoes the collapse of the wave function. For us and for them. Get it?

We have to create lots of noise with doubt to affect the quantum reality of this paradigm sanatorium.
[..]

[..]

Many good points in the thoughts there Naste !

I will pick one to respond..

There are effective countermeasures, methods to un-do the negative outcomes placed into the spiritual and physical, and neural battle, should such be needed.. When a billion coherent minds say NO-WAY, that makes a dramatic statement from the quantum level into the rest of the matrix. There is technology which effectively can emulate that and the effects of many more minds focused on a "concept" as far as "quantum phase coherence" modulation is possible.

I believe there are countermeasures to deal with chipping depending on the severity of alteration surgery performed. Rehabilitation from being "chipped" I believe is possible (maybe within limits, but we would be speculating on the types of damage inflicted to the soldier).

The brain is an amazing neural holographic structure as is the nervous system. Rewiring from damage can occur as has been demonstrated during strokes for instance. (subject for another thread).

thank you

[DNA]

Posted by Roisin (here)
If my son was in the military in combat somewhere, I DEFINITELY, would be getting better sleep at night if I knew he has a GPS implant in him should he get hit by the enemy or captured by them for that matter. No question about that!

There is quite a bit of data linking cancer in dogs who have been chipped.

Dogs suffer cancer after ID chipping.

[Cidersomerset]

If my son was in the military in combat somewhere, I DEFINITELY, would be getting better sleep at night if I knew he has a GPS implant in him should he get hit by the enemy or captured by them for that matter. No question about that!

Hi Roisin this is the best argument scenario for a tracking device , but I would rather it be on my dog tag. Also if captured by an enemy
they would probably kill him/her than take the risk of having their location compromised to counter attack or attempted rescue of the
prisoners. New measures always produce new counter measures, the only real solution is to evolve out of this war mentality thru a
body like the UN. But that brings the threat from 'A new World order' and instead of a 'Star Trek ' style world government we have
one military government and the abuses that could bring if the wrong elitist groups stay in power as they have done for centuries.

Slightly gone off the subject but the chip though a powerfull breakthrough for freedom via the web , also controls weapon systems
and 'Super Soldiers' if they can get away with it, and no doubt protypes exist in many forms as witness have already said on here
and else where the programmes probably started in the 50's or earlier with the Manchurian candidites.

[Cidersomerset]

Something Bob and ion discuss comes into this scenario , according to them we are on
the verge of the next stage of evolution, which is our brain having access to the 'cloud'
either via telepathy or the direct neural link of our natural electrical auric field. Because
our natural essence from source is pure electricity.

Basically when we leave the physical for the Astral plain or Guf, we revert back to essence
and exist in a blissful state of manifestation any thing and everything, but we do not experiance
the senses touch, taste etc and one of the reasons we come into the physical is to create and
experience life and even death and when you go into this it becomes obvious we are on a theme
park, some elites have known this for ever. So they look at greed & suffering in this form as
only temporary so can justify not having a more moral compass as we are eternal beings that
can never die as we perceive it.

The story goes and is written in the old testament if you interpret it form the viewpoint of
we are all 'God'. As Moses said when coming down the mountain with the ten commandments.
Who is God ? Moses answered 'I am'. I'm not a bible buff , but how Ion interprets makes a
lot more sense to me.

Anyway some gods eons ago got bored with bliss , as there is no time just one gigantic now,
past, present and future running simulatanious in a infinity loop which we can access parallel
worlds and ' No time travel in' LOL. So some gods, 'Us' decided to come into this reality to
experience contrast the physical and also created the Guf/heaven to store our essence as we
came in and out of physical a sort of reincarnation. But some gods can ascend out of this
back to the astral plane or stay here in physical and there are some that have been in
physical for thousands of years. Our eventual goal for some,is be immortal in physical so we can create.

But as there is no time bliss can get boring and the cycle can repeat itself
indefinitely,The point is we are reaching one of those junctures when mass
ascension is duenow we are in the digital meme and we are getting closer to being
able to utiliseall the bits of the brain not in use,which we will be able to access and
the chip may soon be redundant.

There is more to it than this and many religions touch on aspects of this and elites
also have known some of this for centuries and is why they have talked to good
mediums who can contact the Guf.

Whether true or not, it has certainly made me look at things differently and getting
back to the thread...LOL The Chip is only a stepping stone to possible ascension.


There are many topics discussed here...This site is created by Ed Long formally
of Information farm and he well down the 'Rabbit Hole'...
http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/p/archive_13.html


Also anyone interested this thread in a good starter, they are an acquired taste
but once tried can become addictive ..LOL

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...show...-6-2-14

[Bob]

That's a refreshing approach to find light at the end of the tunnel Steve, I appreciate it

I like the idea of addressing why fear motivates TPTB to do what they are doing, as it seems to me, that their "fear spirituality" has not helped them with exploring all possible manifestations of consciousness, but has kept the binders on for them, to find something to remove fear by maximizing power (over the "others"). A chip can reduce fear, but how many of TPTB will take a chip and expand their consciousness. It's nonsequetor for them. They know the key is fear inherently, so they create chips to cut fear (to make better killing machines).. So that appears to be the button to work with to get them past the blocks.. at least it seems that way.. Please if that's the key, lets look at that.

Chips or tags, or psychological spin. Get them out of fear, get the damaged amygdala's healed. Get a normal brain working again and maybe we can see some change. What about chips to heal the psychopaths, and sociopaths? Maybe that's a good use for them in the long run.

but

I know there are non-drug methods, non chip methods which help with the healing. There are quantum concepts that can be actualized, groupwise and techwise to get past the fear stuff.

[chocolate]

I really appreciate the thorough explanation of many technical aspects of the situation. Thank you, Bobd.

I only felt I could mention one thing that comes to my mind.

Although we are biological machines, if you allow for the term here, there is still missing information on how biology and mind/consciousness connect exactly on our level of life here, and what makes the bond stable.
So if we are to assume that when the brain injury is reversed that this will automatically solve all related problems for the mind/consciousness of the individual, I think would be a mistake.

The chipping in animals was brought to the table here, because the technology creates damage on the biological level of life with its mere existence there.
My personal thinking is that until we can fully understand and publicly discuss all aspects of biological life/ artificial life and their moral and philosophical co-relations, we must be extremely careful what we decide to do and how to 'upgrade' our existing conditions.

In other words, why fix something that isn't broken. Or did we already believe we are broken?