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    Update on the "Ice Wall" being built to stop contaminated water moving through the ground into the ocean.

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    Fukushima Operator Building Frozen Wall to Prevent Radioactive Water Contaminating Sea
    By Hannah Osborne. January 29, 2014.
    The Japanese firm in charge of the Fukushima nuclear plant has started building a frozen wall to prevent radioactive waste from contaminating the sea.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) has started building its frozen wall of soil to stop waste escaping at the Number two and Number three reactors.

    Since the nuclear disaster at Fukushima three years ago, masses of radioactive waste have contaminated the nearby area. In September last year, the plant dumped over 1,000 tons of polluted water into the sea after a typhoon hit the facility.

    Prior to this, the Japanese government pledged 47bn yen (£28.4m) to build a frozen wall around the Fukushima nuclear plant to stop radioactive water from leaking out.
    Government spokesman Yoshihide Suga said at the time: "[The government] felt it was essential to become involved to the greatest extent possible."

    The plan involves a wall of frozen earth being created around the reactors using pipes filled with a coolant, which stops the groundwater coming into contact with the contaminate water.

    However, many voiced doubts about the technique, as it has only ever been employed on a small scale to control non-radioactive pollution.

    Japanese TV station NHK said huge amounts of water are currently being poured into the reactors to prevent melted nuclear fuel from overheating. Some of this water is leaking from the damaged reactor.
    Tepco says the water is leaking from tunnels, seeping into the ground and ending up in the sea.

    Engineers have started erecting the frozen wall by digging vertical holes where the tunnels meet the turbine buildings, where pipes will be installed for the liquid coolant.

    However, the project is already problematic, as engineers cannot visit the site of drilling because of the radioactive water. They are currently relying on cameras being remotely controlled.

    Tepco is also digging wells to see whether water is leaking directly from the buildings. It hopes to have finished installing the popes by March.

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    a frozen wall... nice bandaid, are they now going to excivate all that earth (massive $$$) due to fears of ultra low radiation levels?

    this seems like a huge money grab, watch the contract awards, follow the money..... what a scam, maybe that's why they are being so inept, to just further the contracts and widen the scope of work; is it being subsidized by the government at all?
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    First results are back on radiation levels in the Pacific (West Coast US) from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institutes (WHOI), Center for Marine and Environmental Radiation, 'How radioactive is our ocean?' project -- which uses crowd sourcing/funding to get results (as I mentioned in this post).

    Results (overview available here) indicate that the plume anticipated from Fukushima has not arrived as of yet. All samples were at normal levels and there was an absence of Caesium-134 which indicates that any radioactive isotopes [Caesium-137] found are not from Fukushima but are remnants of the 1960's atmospheric testing and possibly Chernobyl.

    Here's the media statement from the WHOI.

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    Radioactive Ocean Website a Success:
    No Fukushima radionuclides detected yet, baseline key to future detection

    January 28, 2014

    With concern among the public over the plume of radioactive ocean water from Fukushima arriving on the West Coast of North America and no U.S. government or international plan to monitor it, a new project from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) is filling a timely information gap.

    Just two weeks after launching the crowdsourcing campaign and citizen science website, “How Radioactive Is Our Ocean,” WHOI marine chemist Ken Buesseler’s project has received more than 70 individual donations from the concerned public. New data on seawater radiation levels will be posted on the website today.

    “We’ve received a lot of interest from the public so far, which has been great. Right now we’re gathering important baseline data, but we need continual support in order to monitor the plume over the long-term,” says Buesseler, who conducted the first major sampling off shore of the Fukushima plant in June 2011 and again in 2013.

    Through “How Radioactive Is Our Ocean,” the public can support the monitoring of radiation in the ocean with tax-deductible donations to fund the analysis of collected seawater samples or by proposing new locations and funding the samples and analysis of those sites at Buesseler’s lab in Woods Hole, Mass.

    The project aims to inform and include the public in the process of gathering information about radiation levels in the ocean. The website has garnered more than 18,000 visits to-date.

    Although Buesseler does not expect levels to be dangerously high in the ocean or in seafood as the plume spreads 5,000 miles across the Pacific, he believes this is an evolving situation that demands careful, consistent monitoring to make sure predictions are true.

    One community activist in Point Reyes, Calif., has already raised enough funds to sample the seawater in his coastal community at four intervals throughout this year.

    “We need to know the actual levels of radiation coming at us,” Bing Gong says about what motivated him to get involved. “There’s so much disinformation out there. We really need actual data.”

    In addition to the Point Reyes site, thus far, funding has been secured for bi-monthly sampling at the Scripps Pier in La Jolla, Calif., and goals have been met for at least single samples at Ocean Shores, WA, Santa Monica, Calif., and Mendocino, Calif.

    Dr. Roger Gilbert, a radiation oncologist in Mendocino, Calif. raised funds to support analysis of his coastal community’s seawater.

    “My motivation was concern over fear-mongering on the Internet about allegedly high levels of Fukushima radiation in the coastal waters of California. I am a radiation oncologist, more familiar than most with radioactivity, and it seemed highly likely that the vast dilution of radioisotopes from Fukushima by the Pacific Ocean would result in a barely (if at all) measurable rise in counts,” he says.

    Community activist Bing Gong raised $2,200 from friends and neighbors and plans to continue to raise enough funds to sample the seawater off Point Reyes over the next three years.

    “What we really need is support to sample the same sites multiple times over the next couple of years, like the support coming from the community in Point Reyes, where we will be able to fully monitor the plume’s arrival and movement over time,” Buesseler says.

    The plume of radiation from the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant is forecasted to be detectable at the Pacific coast in April 2014, according to a scientific model developed by Vincent Rossi, a post-doctoral research associate at the Institute for Cross-Disciplinary Physics and Complex Systems in Spain.

    Rossi’s model projects that traces of Fukushima’s radiation will reach Alaska and coastal Canada first because of the trajectory of the powerful Kuroshio Current that flows from Japan across the Pacific. The plume will continue to circulate down the coast of North America and back towards Hawaii.

    Fukushima contamination can be “fingerprinted” from precise measurements of the relative amounts of two cesium isotopes: The long lived cesium-137 isotope with a 30-year half life that has been in the ocean from 1960s weapons testing, and cesium-134, with a 2-year half life that can only be a result of the more recent 2011 Fukushima accident. Today new data will be posted on the website from four funded sample sites: La Jolla, Calif., Point Reyes, Calif., Grayland, WA, and Sequim Bay, WA.

    No traces of Fukushima’s cesium-134 have been detected in Buesseler’s analyses yet. And, the level of cesium-137 is what's expected from the 1960s sources (1.5 Bequerels per cubic meter).

    “The reason why we see such low levels of radiation in these samples is because the plume is not here yet. But it’s coming. And we’ll actually be able to see its arrival,” Buesseler says. “That baseline data is critical.”

    Having samples from before the plume reaches the coast is important for building a complete data set that measures changing radiation levels over time and improving scientists’ ability to model plume behavior.

    “We expect over the rest of 2014, levels will become detectable starting first along the northern coastline. But the complex behavior of coastal currents will likely result in varying intensities and changes that cannot be predicted from models alone,” Buesseler says.

    The project currently has sponsors interested in collecting samples from 16 unique locations from San Diego to British Columbia and one in Oahu, Hawaii. However, none have been proposed yet from Alaska, where the plume is predicted to be detected first.

    “Optimally, we’d like to be able to sample and analyze about 20 sites from Alaska to San Diego at regular intervals every few months. We even have had interest from the public as far away as Japan, New Zealand, Guam, and one sailing vessel traveling from Hawaii to Japan this summer, but the West Coast time series is our highest priority,” says Buesseler.

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    not "yet" eh?

    so they revise the model of the predicted "plume" and keep the fear game goin for a bit longer?
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    not "yet" eh?

    so they revise the model of the predicted "plume" and keep the fear game goin for a bit longer?
    G'day Target,

    The WHOI has made use of a number of predictive models for the movement of radionuclide's ex-Fukushima and I don't recall Buesseler ever saying that the plume would arrive pre-April 2014. His has been the voice of reason amongst some very loud doom-mongers.

    The 'How radioactive is our ocean?' project is designed to show the level of contamination that is in the Pacific and accurately report results that, while they may vary considerably across the region, are predicted to be not that much above 2010 levels (that are the result of atmospheric nuclear bomb testing in the region). At the moment levels are predicted to be much less than the Rossi model, which while seemingly accurate in predicting plume movement hasn't been as accurate in relation to nuclide concentration in samples taken so far.

    What's very good about Buesseler's project is it provides a base level that can be used as a measure to indicate how much increase there is in nuclide concentration when detectable levels of Caesium-134 do start to appear in samples. This should be able to be used to stop the panic that will inevitably arise upon reports that "The Deadly Fukushima Radiation Plume Is Here!!!". Wait and see. We know there will be people mis-reporting this to scare others.

    Hopefully Buesseler's work will make it just that bit harder for them when it happens.

    I posted this in another thread but will add it here as it may be useful to others:

    Quote Posted by panopticon (here)
    For those who might be concerned about the effect that the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi NPS has had on ocean radiation levels I might suggest a quick read of Marine Chemists blog over at Dailykos. The PICES presentation (above) was mentioned there a few weeks ago:

    Quote About 93% of radioactivity in seawater results from the presence of primordial, naturally occurring potassium-40 (K-40) and rubidium-87 (Rb-87). The remaining 7% are radioactive elements deposited to the ocean from past atmospheric nuclear testing. The sum of these activities is about 14 Bq/L on average though there are regional differences that scale with ocean salinity.

    Ongoing time series measurements are being carried out by the Department of Fisheries and Oceans to determine when and how much radioactivity from the Fukushima disaster will arrive along the west coast of North America.

    Results of the Line P Time Series Program thus far can be summarized as follows:
    1) Cs levels in June 2011 were consistent with pre-Fukushima levels present from atmospheric nuclear test fallout
    2) In June 2012 surface waters ~1500 km offshore had detectable Cs-134 from Fukushima and associated Cs-137 of 0.0003 Bq/L or roughly 0.002% of naturally occurring background radiation
    3) Fukushima derived Cs was detected all the way to the coast in June 2013 with the highest levels of Cs-137 farthest offshore (0.0009 Bq/L or roughly 0.006% of background radiation) and lower levels of 0.0003 Bq/L toward the coast.
    4) The timing of the arrival of the plume agrees with the modeling study of Rossi et al. (2013) published in the peer-reviewed journal Deep-Sea Research (link) but the concentrations are lower than predicted
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    BTW, the PICES presentation had 2 misleading images at the beginning. The hoax "Nuclear Fallout Map" that circulated just after the accident and was supposedly from ARS (it wasn't, as can be seen from the ARS disclaimer at the time) and the widely posted but misleading graphic from ASR showing a computer animation of projected dispersal pattern of free floating material in the ocean. To quote ASR:
    Quote THIS IS NOT A REPRESENTATION OF THE RADIOACTIVE PLUME CONCENTRATION.
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    For a number of different models on dispersal/transport patterns of radionuclides at different depths try the bottom of this page (nifty short movie for each one):
    http://fvcom.smast.umassd.edu/resear...FVCOM_Tsunami/
    Rossi's model seems to be the best available but as with any model only observations will confirm it. That's why it's important that samples should be getting taken in Alaska to show when Caesium-134 appears.

    Check out the little movies (based on some predictive models of nuclide movement) at the end of this page (they're pretty cool if you're into that sort of thing ):
    http://fvcom.smast.umassd.edu/resear...FVCOM_Tsunami/

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    Quote That's why it's important that samples should be getting taken in Alaska to show when Caesium-134 appears.
    or, IF

    yes, a baseline sample is good (though an average of 3 sampling would be MUCH better); hopefully this will put to rest the fears. I doubt there will be a "plume" reaching Alaska, the ocean isn't just a large body of water, it's the most massive ecosystem on the planet.
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    TEPCO found to not be reporting measurements correctly and presenting misleading information by Japan's Nuclear Regulatory Authority.

    Strontium was detected at 5 million Bq/L but not reported in the all Beta detected figure (which was reported @ 900,000 Bq/L).

    TEPCO says that this was due to a calibration fault in the Strontium detection device and that the measurement was inaccurate. However, their not reporting it at the time is evidence of them at the very least presenting misleading (massaged) information yet again (no huge surprise with their track record). We already know that they have changed radiation detectors in surrounding areas to ones that record lower measurements than the IAEA sanctioned devices. I just say thank goodness for the people who are measuring and reporting the levels themselves. It's the only way we can be sure that the situation isn't a lot worse...

    Q. Why isn't there an independent body responsible for these official measurements given TEPCO's track record?

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    Japan's nuclear regulator raps Fukushima operator over radiation readings
    By Mari Saito. February 12th, 2014.
    • Nuclear regulator to strengthen oversight
    • Tepco to recheck radiation readings for groundwater wells
    • Record strontium-90 reading was x5 previous all-beta measurement

    TOKYO, Feb 12 (Reuters) - Japan's nuclear regulator has criticised the operator of the stricken Fukushima plant for incorrectly measuring radiation levels in contaminated groundwater at the site.

    Almost three years since the reactor meltdowns at the Fukushima Daiichi station, Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) still lacks basic understanding of measuring and handling radiation, Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) Chairman Shunichi Tanaka said on Wednesday. The utility has been widely criticised for an inept response to the March 2011 disaster.

    Tepco said last week that groundwater drawn from a monitoring well last July contained a record 5 million becquerels per litre of dangerous radioactive strontium-90 - more than five times the total beta radiation reading of 900,000 becquerels per litre recorded in the well, which is around 25 metres from the ocean.

    Tepco said there was a calibration mistake with one machine measuring strontium levels of well water at the plant, and it had also found an error with devices that decipher all-beta radiation.

    "Something like this cannot happen ... This (data) is what becomes the basis of various decisions, so they must do their utmost to avoid mistakes in measuring radiation," Tanaka told reporters, though he added the mistake did not pose a serious safety risk at the plant.

    The legal limit for releasing strontium 90, which has a half life of around 29 years, into the sea is 30 becquerels per litre.

    A Tepco spokesman said the utility will re-check all-beta radiation readings of groundwater in light of the record strontium levels.

    Last year, radiation leaks, power outages and other mishaps sparked international concern and prompted Japan's government to step in with more funds and support. As part of a turnaround plan approved by the government last month, Tepco hopes to re-start its biggest nuclear station, Kashiwazaki Kariwa, this summer.

    Tepco in November began the hazardous process of removing hundreds of brittle spent fuel rods from the damaged No. 4 reactor building at Fukushima. It said last week it had removed about 9 percent of more than 1,500 unused and spent fuel assemblies in the reactor's storage pool. (Editing by Aaron Sheldrick and Ian Geoghegan)

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    More on the misleading reporting of radioactive isotopes levels from TEPCO.

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    TEPCO revises strontium data at Fukushima plant to record level
    The Asahi Shimbun. February 07, 2014.



    Tokyo Electric Power Co. corrected its radioactivity readings for groundwater from a well at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant to a record-high 5 million becquerels of strontium per liter.

    TEPCO officials said the strontium levels were gauged again because the previous data was wrong. They also said radioactivity readings for water taken from other wells before September were also likely erroneous.

    The company had said 900,000 becquerels of beta-ray sources, including strontium, were detected in water taken on July 5, 2013, from the observation well near a water intake for the No. 2 reactor turbine building.

    The new strontium data indicates that the concentration of all beta-ray sources totals around 10 million becquerels per liter of water, according to the company.

    TEPCO did not announce radioactivity levels of 140 samples of groundwater and seawater taken between June and November after it found strontium readings that were higher than measurements for all beta-ray sources.

    The company attributed contradictory data to malfunctions of analytical equipment.

    The utility also said Feb. 6 that 600 liters of contaminated water, containing 2,800 becquerels of beta-ray sources per liter, leaked from piping leading to a tank at the Fukushima nuclear plant.

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    Now, I'm not a grano expert but I reckon that if massive water tanks are put on concrete that doesn't have proper foundations (especially on a bloody slope) then there's gonna be a few problems. Right? Doesn't seem TEPCO has a bloody clue...
    Mind you at least they seem to know that concrete will crack when water freezes in it. Well done!

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    Cracks found in floor near Fukushima radioactive water tanks
    The Asahi Shimbun. February 12, 2014.



    Two cracks were discovered in a concrete floor near radioactive water storage tanks on the grounds of the stricken Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, the plant operator said Feb. 11.

    Officials with Tokyo Electric Power Co. said some of the contaminated water from the melting snow blanketing the area may have seeped into the ground through the cracks.

    Workers on patrol discovered the cracks, stretching 12 meters and 8 meters, respectively, near a group of storage tanks where 300 tons of highly radioactive water was found in August last year to have leaked. The tanks hold contaminated water generated in the process of cooling the crippled reactors.

    TEPCO detected up to 58 becquerels of radioactive cesium and up to 2,100 becquerels of radioactive strontium per liter of melted snow in the area. Freezing temperatures may have cracked the concrete, the TEPCO officials added.

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    More information on the investigation into Thyroid cancer levels and causes in Fukushima.

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    Thyroid cancer cases increase among young people in Fukushima
    The Asahi Shimbun, February 08, 2014.


    Evacuees take cancer-preventing iodine tablets in Kawamata, Fukushima Prefecture, on March 12, 2011, a day after the nuclear disaster started. (Asahi Shimbun file photo)

    The number of young people in Fukushima Prefecture who have been diagnosed with definitive or suspected thyroid gland cancer, which is often associated with radiation exposure, has risen to 75, prefectural officials said Feb. 7.

    That is 16 more than in November, when figures were last released. The number of definitive cases rose by seven, from 26.

    The 75 are among 254,000 individuals for whom results of thyroid gland tests have been made available to date.

    Only residents of Fukushima Prefecture who were aged 18 or under at the time of the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster are eligible to receive the thyroid gland tests administered by the prefectural government.

    The latest figures include the results from 28,000 more individuals compared to the numbers released in November.

    Medical and government officials in Fukushima say they do not believe the cases of thyroid gland cancer diagnosed or suspected in the 75 young people in the prefecture are linked to the 2011 nuclear accident.

    Hokuto Hoshi, who chairs a panel that discusses matters related to the prefectural survey on the health impact from radiation on Fukushima’s residents, referred to the fact that cases of thyroid gland cancer in children who lived near Chernobyl only began to increase four to five years after the 1986 nuclear accident.

    Doctors at Fukushima Medical University said they will start analyzing genes in cancerous thyroid glands surgically removed from children to try to ascertain if radiation played a role in the pathology of their cancer.

    "We hope to look for unknown types of gene mutations, other than those known to be associated with the generation of thyroid gland cancer, to study if they could serve as markers for determining if the cancers were induced by radiation," said Shinichi Suzuki, a professor of thyroid gland surgery with the university.

    Even if exposure to radiation does increase the occurrence of thyroid gland cancer, it will take years before such a relationship can be established, whereas no method is currently available to determine whether individual cases of thyroid gland cancer were induced by radiation, Suzuki added.

    The 75 young individuals with confirmed or suspected thyroid gland cancer, including one who was later diagnosed with a benign tumor, averaged 14.7 years in age when the Great East Japan Earthquake and tsunami triggered the meltdowns at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant in March 2011.

    (This article was written by Teruhiko Nose and Yuri Oiwa.)

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    Default Re: Japan nuclear agency upgrades Fukushima alert level

    take about a 1:1 ratio of microscopic iron,and microscopic aluminum. mix the powders together. If mixing the powders together is a problem..which it will be...mix it into water, each at a time, into water. maybe 10:1 with water, have the micro iron and the micro aluminum mix thoroughly in the water. then fully dilute into maybe 100:1 via mass.

    100kg of water, 1-2-3 kg of 1:1 micro aluminum/micro iron mix. It has to be micro, so it suspends in the water.

    Pour this into a mixture of the radioactive water. about 100kg of rad waste water, per 100 kg of water/iron/aluminum mix. (total mass of the mix is now 202kg (approx)

    Run a Rhodes gas flame (aka :"brown's gas", aka "HHO gas") THROUGH the radioactive water. repeatedly. over and over. Repeatedly, in a continual run, ie, maybe 3-4-5 runs through.

    This will require a maybe 4000L/Hr browns gas generator. You want lots of browns gas bubbling through the mixture, lots of browns gas reacting with the water.

    Measure the residual radiation after a few cycles.

    It Should drop to near unmeasurable levels.

    That's the recipe for decontaminating the radiated waste water.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    Scale it up, for a few million dollars... and in a few months, all of that radioactive waste water should be treated, and have zero residual radiation.

    Another potential way to do it, is to put the micro aluminum and the micro iron mix in the water and go for Ultrasonic cavitation, micro implosions in the water, which are electrical, and same-same as the brown's gas effect, in this case.

    This mess has been solvable for a LONG time, ways of doing so have been known long before this mess even began.

    it makes you wonder.....
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    I agree Carmody, it certainly does make me wonder.

    It's totally stunning to me that basic things like doing ground work before laying concrete wasn't done or that they never realised that putting tanks on a slope that feed into each other would overflow the bottom tank. That's right, they put the measuring device on the top tank and then wondered why the one at the bottom of the slope overflowed.

    There again they're not rocket surgeons...

    Then there's reports like this one from NHK World:


    Not to mention all the fear mongery about radiation going to imminently cause problems in the US of A.
    Come on, there's a bloody ocean in between! Never ceases to amaze me.

    This has always been about Japan (and nearby countries) and the incompetence of TEPCO, the NRA and the Japanese Government.

    Did you all know that TEPCO is set to record a massive profit this year?

    That's right, the Government (ie the tax payers of Japan) subsidise operations and TEPCO increase prices to consumers so that it can make a profit for its shareholders. No need to worry about a pesky nuclear reactor melt down or possibly MOX in #4 during the tsunami. Very interesting reading about Strontium levels vs Caesium in the period following the accident. Then there's the "black goo" that was found in surrounding areas not to mention that there is still no idea where the Corium is...

    Remember the old mantra from the 60's? "The solution to pollution is dilution".

    There's no need for Brown's Gas for water treatment, the present treatment options would work fine if they can get the bloody things working! Incompetent... That's why there's so much water stored on site, they aren't processing the treated water fast enough and even once it's treated they aren't allowed to pump it into the ocean, even though the levels of tritium in the water is below US drink water standards...

    Simply stunning.

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    In the predictions thread in this forum, last Thurs., Feb. 6th, I posted a inner eye vision of seeing an Asian man standing in front of a power plant where a radiation symbol rolled into that scene.

    My interpretation of that vision was that something was going to happen at Fukushima and the next day on Friday, 12:18 GMT, 2 back to back moderate (5.1 and 5.0) EQ's occurred near that plant. The first one happened on friday and the second one occurred on Saturday morning.
    Prior to that, the last EQ they had near that plant that was over 4.0 happened on Oct. 26th. That one was 7.1.

    That vision popped into my mind out of nowhere and like all of my visions that I get like this, they are inserted into my mind by outside intelligences. So it was not me who made the prediction... it was "them".

    Because I got that vision, it's telling me that "they" are very concerned about the Fukushima situation and that we should be concerned about it too. Should I get any more information from them, I'll be reporting here in this thread.

    Also, the TEPCO report that the radiation there was 5x's higher than what they reported before in their last report on that was first published on the internet on Saturday, Feb. 8th.

    Below is info on those 2 moderate EQ's that just recently occurred there. The last EQ that occurred that was near that plant that was over 4.0 occurred on Oct. 26th.

    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    Now I got it straight:


    Two Quakes Strike Near Fukushima

    Quote Two magnitude-5 earthquakes struck off the coast of Japan’s Fukushima prefecture, the site of the 2011 tsunami and earthquake that killed more than 18,000 people and sparked the world’s worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.

    The first quake hit 34 kilometers off the coast of Namie, Japan at 21:18 GMT on Friday. The US Geological Survey (USG) measured its magnitude at 5.1. The tremor caused no serious damages, and no tsunami warning was issued in its wake, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.

    The second quake, measured magnitude 5.0, and struck 34 kilometers from Iwaki, Japan at 6:34 GMT on Saturday. Like the previous quake, no tsunami warning was issued, though they posed stark reminders of the chronic insecurity at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant.

    On March 11, 2011, a 9.0 megathrurst earthquake struck off the coast of Japan. The quake triggered a massive tsunami, which inundated the nuclear power plant causing three reactors to melt down.

    Nearly three years later, authorities have failed to cap radioactive leaks, and Tokyo Electric Power Co. [TEPCO], the plant’s operator, was recently forced to admit they had underestimated radiation levels by five times.

    Meanwhile, ongoing seepage of contaminated water used to cool the damaged reactors continues to hinder cleanup efforts, which will probably take years to complete.
    Source: http://rt.com/news/two-earthquakes-fukushima-coast-167/
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    Also, the TEPCO report that the radiation there was 5x's higher than what they reported before in their last report on that was first published on the internet on Saturday, Feb. 8th.
    Thanks for pointing that out Roisin. The February 7th report date above was taken from the original website.
    Probably the date difference is to do with the US being a day behind Australia, Japan etc.

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    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    Also, the TEPCO report that the radiation there was 5x's higher than what they reported before in their last report on that was first published on the internet on Saturday, Feb. 8th.
    Thanks for pointing that out Roisin. The February 7th report date above was taken from the original website.
    Probably the date difference is to do with the US being a day behind Australia, Japan etc.

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    It was first posted on the internet on Saturday, Feb 8th, not on Friday, the 7th.
    And I'm EST time and Japan is 14 hours behind me.

    I know that because I didn't find out about those 2 earthquakes that occurred near that plant until Saturday and that's when I also saw that article about TEPCO's saying that they under reported the radiation rate at that plant by 5x's.
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    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    It was first posted on the internet on Saturday, Feb 8th, not on Friday, the 7th.
    And I'm EST time and Japan is 14 hours behind me.

    I know that because I didn't find out about those 2 earthquakes that occurred near that plant until Saturday and that's when I also saw that article about TEPCO's saying that they under reported the radiation rate at that plant by 5x's.
    In both Tokyo and New York it is currently the 13th of February.

    It's around 1.40 am in New York (EST) atm.
    It's around 3.40 pm in Tokyo.

    Tokyo is 14 hours ahead (ie further into the day than New York).

    Here's how I worked out the date of the article being published:



    If the date of article submission on the website is incorrect, or different by geo-location, then that's beyond my control.

    Best of luck.

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    When I saw that TEPCO report online on Saturday, I then searched to see if it has been posted anywhere prior to that date so your article was apparently posted on the 7th and not the 8th like the one that I saw.

    Anyway, thanks for the posting that information!

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    More information on Brown's Gas for water treatment here:
    http://www.eagle-research.com/cms/node/456

    Tootles.

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    It's all about the money!



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    I'm watching this video again because it's very informative where he highlights those important points about what's going on there. Thanks for posting it here!

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