Is the white light after we die a trap?

[Christine]

Yes… and one of the paradoxes that neither science, nor you, nor I can fully comprehend yet… You can say whatever you want with certainty.. and then your experience expands, now go work with those who have had their minds terrorized and their Being tortured into accepting realities and made to do things so against their basic ethics and integrity that it practically destroys them .. ask them what they think about how simple it is to control their experiences within the hologram.

I don't know if you have ever experienced the literal terror of being fractured. My guess is not for out of such experiences comes humility.

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
I guess it's a very difficult endeavour to look at this square in the eye:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Seems to me the signal got lost in the noise...

It's very simple, when Simon and others "talk" of the white light construed to be experienced with NDEs, we are talking about a similar BEAM that's used for abductions. Point final/Full stop.

With that, sovereign people will question and repel it tooth and nail whereas unaware ones will most probably be manipulated into: "Oh! Look! What a pretty butterfly!"

Sorry if that's too simple...

You're still missing the science and it's just as simple. You create your own reality, period. So if you want to believe that the beam of light is that of a light used for abductions that is the reality you create. Yes, this reality you suggest is true, ...why? Because you live in a hologram and all possibilities are available so you experience the possibility of what you believe. THAT IS WHAT THE SCIENCE IS SHOWING US. All possibilities are what's possible. You are in the driver's seat. Everyone will have a different experience.

[Hervé]

Who is missing what:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

.... The only reason I feel compelled to respond is because I see people being mislead and it bothers me to the very core.

[...]

[...]

You use results from science to demonstrate your point and that’s well taken: I have no problems with that whatsoever.

[...]

What you seem to dismiss is at least 10,000 years of programing/implants designed to go against the "science" of an holographic universe.

Also, as I mentioned in that same quoted post, it is that very science that has been turned around to enslave individuals via electronic means.

AFAIC I quit adding to the noise that keeps burying the signal.

[donk]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Who is missing what:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

.... The only reason I feel compelled to respond is because I see people being mislead and it bothers me to the very core.

[...]

[...]

You use results from science to demonstrate your point and that’s well taken: I have no problems with that whatsoever.

[...]

What you seem to dismiss is at least 10,000 years of programing/implants designed to go against the "science" of an holographic universe.

Also, as I mentioned in that same quoted post, it is that very science that has been turned around to enslave individuals via electronic means.

AFAIC I quit adding to the noise that keeps burying the signal.

But what's "noise" to you might spark something in someone else's reality. Your discussion, and especially disagreement, is very important, and could be productive...with some loving detachment from all involved, and breaking free of the program that you need to "win" a argument or that you can't criticize (ideas or individuals) or that disagreement and criticism are "negative"...they are not, unless you make it so

[we-R-one]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Who is missing what:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

.... The only reason I feel compelled to respond is because I see people being mislead and it bothers me to the very core.

[...]

[...]

You use results from science to demonstrate your point and that’s well taken: I have no problems with that whatsoever.

[...]

What you seem to dismiss is at least 10,000 years of programing/implants designed to go against the "science" of an holographic universe.

Also, as I mentioned in that same quoted post, it is that very science that has been turned around to enslave individuals via electronic means.

I answered this question already about why it's taken 10,000 years. Go back and read. Victimhood is a favorite past-time that seems to be quite challenging for many to conquer. You see this is why I see no point in starting another thread because:

1. The viewer either won't take the time to read the material and/or isn't capable of absorbing what they've read.

2. Some would rather embrace fear based ideologies because it serves their agenda.

You can believe whatever you want. Simon can believe whatever he wants, we all can believe what ever we want, that's how the hologram works. If you want the reality to change, the one we live in as a collective, to be one of peace, than you have to quit supporting fear based idealogies as a collective. This is what the science shows us. I can't help if people won't take the time to read and understand. I share what I know because I've had personal experiences that are matching what the science says so I can validate the findings and this is why I have the knowledge base for the understanding in which I share with forum members.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Who is missing what:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

.... The only reason I feel compelled to respond is because I see people being mislead and it bothers me to the very core.

[...]

[...]

You use results from science to demonstrate your point and that’s well taken: I have no problems with that whatsoever.

[...]

What you seem to dismiss is at least 10,000 years of programing/implants designed to go against the "science" of an holographic universe.

Also, as I mentioned in that same quoted post, it is that very science that has been turned around to enslave individuals via electronic means.

I answered this question already about why it's taken 10,000 years. Go back and read. Victimhood is a favorite past-time that seems to be quite challenging for many to conquer. You see this is why I see no point in starting another thread because:

1. The viewer either won't take the time to read the material and/or isn't capable of absorbing what they've read.

2. Some would rather embrace fear based ideologies because it serves their agenda.

You can believe whatever you want. Simon can believe whatever he wants, we all can believe what ever we want, that's how the hologram works. If you want the reality to change, the one we live in as a collective, to be one of peace, than you have to quit supporting fear based idealogies as a collective. This is what the science shows us. I can't help if people won't take the time to read and understand. I share what I know because I've had personal experiences that are matching what the science says so I can validate the findings and this is why I have the knowledge base for the understanding in which I share with forum members.

We-R-one,

Your personal experiences, including how you communicate with the "field" may be helpful to others who want to navigate what appears to me as being a multi-dimensional chess game.

We can learn from:

1. How other's interpret their experience.
2. How we interpret our personal experience.
3. Science.

Each of these are a cloudy mixture of truths mixed with distortions concerning the nature of our journey through what may be holographic realities.

I would not want to exclude any theories or interpretations as I put my reality puzzle together. But I'll choose the simpler versions to explore first.

Is there any personal experience you can share?

Thanks, Ron

[we-R-one]

Posted by Christine (here)
Yes… and one of the paradoxes that neither science, nor you, nor I can fully comprehend yet… You can say whatever you want with certainty.. and then your experience expands, now go work with those who have had their minds terrorized and their Being tortured into accepting realities and made to do things so against their basic ethics and integrity that it practically destroys them .. ask them what they think about how simple it is to control their experiences within the hologram.

I don't know if you have ever experienced the literal terror of being fractured. My guess is not for out of such experiences comes humility.

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
I guess it's a very difficult endeavour to look at this square in the eye:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Seems to me the signal got lost in the noise...

It's very simple, when Simon and others "talk" of the white light construed to be experienced with NDEs, we are talking about a similar BEAM that's used for abductions. Point final/Full stop.

With that, sovereign people will question and repel it tooth and nail whereas unaware ones will most probably be manipulated into: "Oh! Look! What a pretty butterfly!"

Sorry if that's too simple...

You're still missing the science and it's just as simple. You create your own reality, period. So if you want to believe that the beam of light is that of a light used for abductions that is the reality you create. Yes, this reality you suggest is true, ...why? Because you live in a hologram and all possibilities are available so you experience the possibility of what you believe. THAT IS WHAT THE SCIENCE IS SHOWING US. All possibilities are what's possible. You are in the driver's seat. Everyone will have a different experience.

...sigh.....somebody help me.... ...ok, where's the candy mountain video...kidding, just looking for humor...Finefeather, Greybeard? maybe you can say it better than me. There's a piece of the puzzle that's missing here that some aren't getting. I try to speak as clearly as possible to simplify the message so all can understand.

I'm not making fun of you guys, this is a general comment for all...I don't know how to reach you...I can see what the problem is,....... GO WATCH THE VIDEO....GO WATCH THE VIDEO...GO WATCH THE VIDEO...GO WATCH THE VIDEO....then go back and WATCH IT AGAIN, so that you can absorb, THEN come back and talk.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Who is missing what:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...]

.... The only reason I feel compelled to respond is because I see people being mislead and it bothers me to the very core.

[...]

[...]

You use results from science to demonstrate your point and that’s well taken: I have no problems with that whatsoever.

[...]

What you seem to dismiss is at least 10,000 years of programing/implants designed to go against the "science" of an holographic universe.

Also, as I mentioned in that same quoted post, it is that very science that has been turned around to enslave individuals via electronic means.

I answered this question already about why it's taken 10,000 years. Go back and read. Victimhood is a favorite past-time that seems to be quite challenging for many to conquer. You see this is why I see no point in starting another thread because:

1. The viewer either won't take the time to read the material and/or isn't capable of absorbing what they've read.

2. Some would rather embrace fear based ideologies because it serves their agenda.

You can believe whatever you want. Simon can believe whatever he wants, we all can believe what ever we want, that's how the hologram works. If you want the reality to change, the one we live in as a collective, to be one of peace, than you have to quit supporting fear based idealogies as a collective. This is what the science shows us. I can't help if people won't take the time to read and understand. I share what I know because I've had personal experiences that are matching what the science says so I can validate the findings and this is why I have the knowledge base for the understanding in which I share with forum members.

We-R-one,

Your personal experiences, including how you communicate with the "field" may be helpful to others who want to navigate what appears to me as being a multi-dimensional chess game.

We can learn from:

1. How other's interpret their experience.
2. How we interpret our personal experience.
3. Science.

All of these are a cloudy mixture of truths mixed with distortions concerning the nature of our journey through what may be holographic realities.

I would not want to exclude any theories or interpretations as I put my reality puzzle together. But I'll choose the simpler versions to explore first.

Is there any personal experience you can share?

Thanks, Ron

Ron I'll come back later and answer your questions...I need a break, got things to do. Sorry it's taking me so long to respond, I won't forget you.

[thunder24]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aJhnOq2q3ag

"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."

This may b out of context and it may not, so take it for what its worth. If we take God in this quote to mean source, then there was darkness and sound as part of source before there was light. God said the light was good, but didn't say the dark was bad. It can also be taken as the separation/contrast of light and dark is a good thing.

I know scripture has its fans and nay-Sayers, but it keeps coming to mind probably because of childhood programming, never-the-less, what keeps hitting me is that there was sound and darkness before there was light, and the supposed creator/Source was there prior to that light...

[greybeard]

In the words of Eckhart Tolle "There never was anyone out there to do anything to you"
My mind made my life hell till I started reading enlightened sages over thirty years ago.
AA got me started on that.
Programming or no programming---I did that to me.
Through the 12 steps of AA I got sanity and serenity.
In trust I surrendered to the God of my understanding---the only other choice was wet brain, suicide--death.
That blind faith worked and has seen me through many difficult situations.
It has also seen many millions recover from alcoholism.
Alcoholism always led to death till Bill W went to Jung who said "Neither my science or art can help you" he suggested going to a spiritual group which was the fore runner of AA.

My world does not include fear.
I trust implicitly that when I exit the body I will be looked after in the same way Im looked after in this world.
Some things cant be proved but science is getting very close to proving Oneness.
The sages say from personal experience---"I am the totality all of it" One without a second.

Everyone is free to believe what they want to.
All I can say is go on your own experience----as the Buddha said "Put no head above your own"

My experience leads me believe that on death whatever presents it self will be right for this Self.

Chris

[Kalamos]

(ignore the thanks to this post, as it has been edited and restored)

EDIT: All the questions I ask below are not for me. I have my own answers. If you wish to answer and share you view, go on ahead. I'm asking from a viewpoint of someone who would be looking for answers to these questions from others.

What do some of you think is next for your Consciousness when you go back to Source? What then?

Do you think you'll get to go to another planet and live in 3d?

Do you think that you can then live in 4d if you choose?

Do you think could go to 5d, 6d, 7d? Or do anything because we are gods?

What about Earth and Humanity that is enslaved by Aliens?

Do you think escaping the Soul Cycle will then liberate you to some how help Humanity from a higher dimension? How?

(some of us are getting ideas about Source, dimensions, and possibilities about our Divinity from multiple source, where we've picked our definitions and ideas from differing Sources, none of which has given a single Paradigm that could stand alone. we have ideas about Light and Traps and our godhood from Great Minds and scholars, and channelers alike ... anyway)

If we are gods, and every truly liberated being who's gone on has become a god, then why do you think all those gods out there haven't stopped this Soul Cycle that the Aliens have built. Are the Aliens just that much more powerful than us?

How did we get here in the first place? Did the aliens capture us gods and put us here? Did they create us just to be enslaved as some suggest? Were we ever gods?

Let's think about our ideas and definitions here.

This idea of creating our own reality is escapism in my eyes. And many of us are in denial and false confidence in our potential (of evolving into something higher).

Go to Source upon death, like all the Buddhas who wen't before us, right? Then you are gone? Free? Go to another dimension or multi-verse where there are no Bad Aliens?

Would a true god stand for the abuse and enslavement of our Humanity, if we were children and brothers of gods? Are there no gods in our World?

Are the aliens just that powerful that not even gods can stop this?

We have to consider that we are building our own paradigms to assure our egos that we, as enlightened experiencers, and informed beings can do and be something that might not be true. Then we have people who talk to aliens, who talk to insiders, who talk to themselves that, and they are interestingly coming up with the same theme (symbolic archetype from the mental world), who each are assured by their contacts about names, and dates, and cosmologies/cosmogonies that for differ by great and varying degrees, but offer that same theme?

These stories about Aliens are symbolic, in my opinion, we are really interpretation them in the wrong way.

How many of you are really honest about your experiences? Was your abduction real or just sleep paralysis induced experience that your Mind interprets similarly to others because it's a new experience (well not really, demons and faeries have abducted people in the past); it's an experience that is subjective but connected that we are sharing with others, perhaps.

But seriously, how can everyone be right about the THEME, if all their details are different?

I consider that this is a selfish en-devour of escape artists, believing and propagating this idea.

If you were truly convicted and cared for others, that this is TRUTH, then why not go screaming at the Hill Tops:

"We are being enslaved by a group of cosmic species that feed off us and recycle our souls!

"You must escape and here is how!

"When you die, turn away from the Light, ask to go to Source! That's right, Source.

"Just say 'I want to go to Source', and 'I want to go home', say that over and over again, and you will be free!"

"Better yet, kill yourself now, and do it!"

"It's okay, you are a god!"

"Now go tell others about this so we, as Humanity can be free!"

Is this your new religion?

I'm trying to understand this, but I just don't get it. And I'm not at this time impelled to go read Cash, Parkes, and the fake Indian guy who are interpreting the same Mental Idea. Worse, it could be an Idea that is patently false and in place in some peoples Minds by design. But that's just a nutty idea I play around with.

There are better answers to our condition of Spiritual Evolution.

There are really good ideas coming through to us from great minds, but they are tarnished by their own subconscious, and the paradigms are unsteady and incomplete by themselves, so WE start filling in gaps from our favorites ideas from religions, sciences, philosophies, and so we continue this New Age soup. It's stinks and is overflowing.

I don't know, people, I'm trying. Please help me to figure this out? I'll be patient if you are.

And look, don't come at me with "you need to find your Self to understand" or "We create our own reality and find our own Truths" -- I feel this is nonsense, and that we are creating our realities just in our Minds, based off emotional need (and lately, escapism).

How sure were you of all your past beliefs and paradigms? How is it they keep changing every seven years or so for some of you? Do you really think you've found the Answers from people who say go avoid the Light? We're mixing paradigms all over the place here!

STO STS ... great concepts.

Is it STS to go to Source?

Truth and Knowledge of Reality isn't written in words here or there.

In a few more years you might find you have added and subtracted to your paradigms to continue your wavering. That's my opinion, and I'm talking to my 'self' too.

I ranted. I'll try better next time.

Let's not be OVERLY nice and respectful here when we consider how to express our conflicting view points. I said OVERLY nice and respectful, which I fee

[Kalamos]

..........

[thunder24]

Posted by Calamus (here)
What do some of you think is next for your Consciousness when you go back to Source? What then?

what makes u think we left source?

[Synchronicity]

I suggest turning off the tv, closing the laptop, turning off the cell phone, going into nature if it helps you, sitting quietly without anyone telling you what is right or wrong, and just breathing, listening, looking at stars if you like or water flowing, grass waving in the breeze, or whatever you like...and then listening. Hear the voice within you, the breeze, the water, feel the sun on your face or moonlight, and if fear comes up gently let it pass by and move on. That takes out the egos of those who preach, takes out the middleman, and allows us to hear ourselves, hear the universe, and sort through the energy around us without the filters of people, agendas, media, programming, and expectations.

If you don't like to be still take a walk, if you like to lie back just get into yoga corpse pose, or whatever feels right to you. In the end (or the beginning of the next beginning) there won't be people telling us where to go and what to do, so finding out what is ours and what is put on us by others can be very healing. These things take us to whatever our personal source is...they reconnect us to who we are and the planet upon which we live, the universe, and remind us who we want to be in this life. It is nice to know what that voice sounds like to avoid making bad choices or ending up going along with the crowd without realizing it. When we die, if we know ourselves and who we are, that step over is much simpler.

I say close the laptop because I have had many people come with anxiety and depression, and almost always they watch a lot of tv news and read sites over and over. It changes how you feel and think and makes us doubt that we even have a voice or can make a difference if we aren't careful. FB is one place I see that takes over and makes it hard to hear anything but the negatives.

To each his or her own...just going by what I see really often.

[Kalamos]

I just want to say, I have my working hypothesis that is ever changing. I've have my mystical experiences as many others here have. I know what I currently use to formulate and add to my world view. I've been around the block, just like most of us here.

I'm not looking for answers for my self. My world view is influenced primarily by Esoterics, and I have my own convictions about it.

I'm trying to pick apart and describe what I think are ideas that are WAY OFF. I'm trying to understand what others believe.

"what makes u think we left source?"

In my world view, we left source a long time ago, and it will be a long journey back.

But if I were to be under the influence of Simon and others who suggest that Aliens Trap our souls on earth, I would answer the question you ask differently ...

"What makes me think we left Source?"

Because Simon and others have suggested we can to return Source upon our physical death, by escaping a Soul Catcher Light Trap.

If I have to return to something, I consider that I'm not there right now.

[Kalamos]

Posted by Synchronicity (here)
I suggest turning off the tv, closing the laptop, turning off the cell phone, going into nature if it helps you, sitting quietly without anyone telling you what is right or wrong, and just breathing, listening, looking at stars if you like or water flowing, grass waving in the breeze, or whatever you like...and then listening. Hear the voice within you, the breeze, the water, feel the sun on your face or moonlight, and if fear comes up gently let it pass by and move on. That takes out the egos of those who preach, takes out the middleman, and allows us to hear ourselves, hear the universe, and sort through the energy around us without the filters of people, agendas, media, programming, and expectations.

If you don't like to be still take a walk, if you like to lie back just get into yoga corpse pose, or whatever feels right to you. In the end (or the beginning of the next beginning) there won't be people telling us where to go and what to do, so finding out what is ours and what is put on us by others can be very healing. These things take us to whatever our personal source is...they reconnect us to who we are and the planet upon which we live, the universe, and remind us who we want to be in this life. It is nice to know what that voice sounds like to avoid making bad choices or ending up going along with the crowd without realizing it. When we die, if we know ourselves and who we are, that step over is much simpler.

I say close the laptop because I have had many people come with anxiety and depression, and almost always they watch a lot of tv news and read sites over and over. It changes how you feel and think and makes us doubt that we even have a voice or can make a difference if we aren't careful. FB is one place I see that takes over and makes it hard to hear anything but the negatives.

To each his or her own...just going by what I see really often.

Nice message. I can't help but feel it was directed to me, but I could be wrong. If it were, which I don't know if it was, but if it were, I would just try and reassure you that I am just fine.

We are too nice here, people. This is a discussion forum, and I'm here discussing ideas that I think are very important to some.

Again, I have my beliefs, and I am just fine. If you don't believe me, then PM me about it.

I'm here in this thread trying to understand a different viewpoint then mine, because I want to be here, not because I have any trouble in my soul or mind that is causing an emotional problem. If you feel differently, that's fine. Thanks for understanding.

[thunder24]

Posted by Calamus (here)
"what makes u think we left source?"

In my world view, we left source a long time ago, and it will be a long journey back.

But if I were to be under the influence of Simon and others who suggest that Aliens Trap our souls on earth, I would answer the question you ask differently ...

"What makes me think we left Source?"

Because Simon and others have suggest we can to return Source upon our physical death, by escaping a Soul Catcher Light Trap.

If I have to return to something, I consider that I'm not there right now.

Then both ways you see yourself being separate from that which is. Is this correct?

[Kalamos]

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by Calamus (here)
"what makes u think we left source?"

In my world view, we left source a long time ago, and it will be a long journey back.

But if I were to be under the influence of Simon and others who suggest that Aliens Trap our souls on earth, I would answer the question you ask differently ...

"What makes me think we left Source?"

Because Simon and others have suggest we can to return Source upon our physical death, by escaping a Soul Catcher Light Trap.

If I have to return to something, I consider that I'm not there right now.

Then both ways you see yourself being separate from that which is. Is this correct?

I'm not going to answer about what I believe here.

If I were someone who had no answers and was looking for some, I would consider that if I was being told that I can to Return to Source at physical death, that I must be separate from Source. (I would also wonder what Source is)

So yes, if I were under the influence of the Soul Catcher Paradigm, I would consider my Soul is trapped on Earth, and separate from Source, whatever that is.

[Agape]

Calamus and all ..

there's something 'little' I wish to insert here , also with respect to another thread of yours that I've only happened to notice minutes ago and your recent post full of questions.

Please listen carefully .. as this does not pertain only to you but others coming up with questions of great importance , 'life and death' matters , evolution of this world and beyond .

The following should have been made clear by some senior members of the Forum :

1/ seeking spiritual advice over the internet is risky endeavour . I'll never stop repeating this enough . While someone , somewhere, on the other side of the world may be more experienced, calibrated with knowledge , endowed with psychic powers of whatever sort ,
very few have the intention or capacity to serve as your personal guides . Even friends .. there's lots of superficiality - pervading even seemingly serious matters - happening on the net .
The path for each of to walk, to think through, to meditate and sleep on, the food you eat and shoes you wear have to remain your own ,

not anyones elses .

2/ Simon comes from unique 'place' in life , with unique experiences .. that aren't repeatable for most of the other people here .
What maybe a curse for one may be a blessing for another . In either case , his experiences are as original and unique as he experiences himself and can be shared only to certain lesser degree ..
even if you have spent time with him in real life, you'd not experience what he does because you are not him.
One of his 'mysteries' may be that he allows himself to be with himself, to reflect on his experiences .

That's something each person can do ... if they feel a reason and strong inner call to do so ,
that's why some people become 'hermits' even if being 'hermit' is not a goal of life, it's a means how to isolate yourself from superficial influences from others and reflect on problems, paradigms and deeper questions that you feel compelled to find answer for .

Ultimately .. all true spiritual teachers and guides .. will confirm to you that you alone can find true answers to your questions.
They can satisfy your quests temporarily and you'll be never , ever satisfied with someones else's answers .

Buddha said the same , he advised his disciples to go and test every 'claim' and truth personally rather than putting blind faith to it .
Jesus told you to ''seek the Kingdom of Heaven in your Heart'' or you shall never find it .

Every other realistic Master will tell you the same thing . 'Knowing' with capital K comes from personal experience , direct realisation , encounter with reality , it does not come from getting many questions answered by someone else .


By no means I mean to derail the beautiful and sentient discussion that is happening here .

But I don't really think it was Simons intent to become your 'guru' and intents are important .

3/As above , some of Simons experiences pertain solely and only to him and that's what he came to share , and what makes him vulnerable .

The names and feelings he gives to his ET friends, are his names and feelings .

You can't do any service to him, yourself or anyone else by adopting them .

As human beings, and when we descend to this plane of human experience, no matter our origins, we are all subjective in ways how we relate to each other , in our likes and dislikes . The same subjectivity we tend to experience to every other species ,
from tiny insects, dogs and cats to 'higher intelligencies' including ETs.

When people speak about Angels, Deities , Gods or dogs, each one is entitled to their own .. and their relationships to them are sacred .


Just adding another posting to the pile of your postings ... no matter how well meant, it 's going to matter very little to most of you .

On approaching something that is truly sensitive topic, I can but advice : stay sensitive . When trying to speak to some super-human intelligence ..even by means of some kind of medium... I advice, stay alert and intelligent .

Do not go further with your questions than is decent to expect answers to , guarantees that you won't be disappointed at the end .

Be serious about your life and search for truth .. something that won't be resolved in the internet Matrix . The Truth is Out There ... truly.

[Calz]

Posted by Calamus (here)

I'm not going to answer about what I believe here.

Interesting response in lieu of all you have dumped in several threads with a troll like focus on one member.


So ... humor me before you leave ... who do you work for???

[Kalamos]

Posted by Calz (here)

Posted by Calamus (here)

I'm not going to answer about what I believe here.

Interesting response in lieu of all you have dumped in several threads with a troll like focus on one member.


So ... humor me before you leave ... who do you work for???

No.

There is enough humor going around, and I'm not smirking.

I'll take a break from posting my viewpoints (but I'll be back).

I've written enough in my recent posts, and in my recent threads to convey my feelings, concerns and points of view, which as always, are subject to change.