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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    The questions I keep asking:
    1. Was this a hijack?
    2. Was it planned by high level military people who have the ability to fly the aircraft, silence potential position reports and land the aircraft at a military or large commercial airport?
    3. Was advanced ET technology used to transport the aircraft elsewhere?
    4. Is this event part of a plan, possibly a contingency plan, to create another 9-11 style false flag attack, this time with a real aircraft, and start another war?
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    Quote Posted by carryattune (here)
    I am not making light of the current situation. Hijacking. Who knows. So many possilities. Does anyone remember this movie. I really enjoyed it way back when. The first few minutes are interesting.

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    I wonder if anyone watched this clip. An airplane with a full passenger load comes into contact with an incredidably large UFO. It really was a good movie.
    I am updating and reposting this, because I see today it is being mentioned the possibility that aliens could be involved. I don't understand why when so many here believe in aliens it took this long. Now saying that, I have just gotten up. So I have not read all the posts in between. My post and this reply. So if the alien aspect has been discussed, sorry.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Malaysian PM Says Lost Plane's Movements Indicate a Deliberate Act



    Published on 15 Mar 2014


    Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak says the movements of a missing plane were
    consistent with a deliberate act by someone who turned the jet back across
    Malaysia and onwards to the west.



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    15 March 2014 Last updated at 12:03

    Missing Malaysia Airlines plane 'deliberately diverted'


    Vids on link......http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26591056

    The communications systems of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 were
    deliberately disabled, Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak has said.

    According to satellite and radar evidence, he said, the plane then changed course
    and could have continued flying for a further seven hours.

    He said the "movements are consistent with the deliberate action of someone on the plane".

    The plane disappeared a week ago with 239 people on board.

    Mr Razak stopped short of saying it was a hijacking, saying only that they were
    investigating "all possibilities".

    He said the plane could be anywhere from Kazakhstan to the Indian Ocean.

    The developments have added further uncertainty to the relatives of the 239 people
    on board the Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight.

    Some in the Chinese capital said the news had made them more hopeful that their
    loved ones are alive, but one woman said they were on an emotional rollercoaster
    and she felt "helpless and frustrated".

    'New phase'

    The flight left Kuala Lumpur for Beijing at 00:40 local time (16:40 GMT) on 8 March
    and disappeared off air traffic controllers' screens at about 01:20.

    Mr Razak told a news conference that new satellite evidence shows "with a high
    degree of certainty" that the one of the aircraft's communications systems - the
    Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System - was disabled just
    before it had reached the east coast of Malaysia.

    ACARS is a service that allows computers aboard the plane to "talk" to computers
    on the ground, relaying in-flight information about the health of its systems.

    Passengers' relatives: "Please return our family members"

    Shortly afterwards, near the cross-over point between Malaysian and Vietnamese
    air traffic controllers, the plane's transponder - which emits an identifying signal -
    was switched off, he said.

    According to a military radar, the aircraft then turned and flew back over Malaysia
    before heading in a north-west direction.

    A satellite was able to pick up a signal from the plane until 08:11 local time - more
    than seven hours after it lost radar contact - although it was unable to give a
    precise location, Mr Razak said.

    He went on to say that based on this new data, investigators "have determined the
    plane's last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible corridors":
    a northern corridor stretching from the border of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan
    through to northern Thailand a southern corridor stretching from Indonesia to the
    southern Indian OceanThe BBC's Jonah Fisher in Kuala Lumpur says investigators
    will now focus on trying to obtain the radar data from any of the countries the
    Boeing 777 may have passed over.

    This could include Thailand, Myanmar, Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan, China, India and Pakistan.

    Mr Razak said that in light of the new evidence, the investigation had "entered a
    new phase" and would focus on the crew and passengers on board.

    Shortly after the news conference finished, Malaysian police searched the Kuala
    Lumpur home of the plane's pilot, 53-year-old Zaharie Ahmad Shah.

    Malaysia's prime minister confirmed much of what had been leaked to the media,
    from US agencies and satellite companies, in the last 48 hours.

    Malaysia's Prime Minister: Authorities are now trying to trace the plane across two
    possible "corridors"

    His government had been facing severe criticism for not being more open about
    what it knows.

    China - which had 153 citizens on board the flight - has urged Malaysia to continue
    providing it with "thorough and exact information" on the search, state news
    agency Xinhua said.

    The foreign ministry said it was sending technical specialists to participate in the
    investigation, and appealed for the help of other countries and organisations.

    Along with the Chinese passengers, there were 38 Malaysians and citizens of Iran,
    the US, Canada, Indonesia, Australia, India, France, New Zealand, Ukraine, Russia,
    Taiwan and the Netherlands on board.

    An extensive search of the seas around Malaysia - involving 14 countries, 43 ships
    and 58 aircraft - since the plane disappeared had proved fruitless.




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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Courtney Brown could be useful and do RV sessions to find out what happened to this plane. He says RV is 100% accurate when viewing the past, but there are multiple timelines for the future and so the future cannot be accurately viewed.

    How about the RV people on this forum doing a study:

    1. Write down 3 targets (things that happened in the past) with time, date, latitude and longitude.
    2. Place each in a sealed envelope.
    3. RV each target without opening the envelopes.
    4. When you have completed RV for all three targets, open envelopes and see what information emerges for each.

    I've never tried RV so I don't know if I could do it. I have been able to see events in the future (very specific details), but that happens spontaneously (it imposes itself on me rather than me searching for it so I have no conscious control).

    Anyone want to try doing the RV exercise? If Courtney Brown did it and the RV information turned out to be completely accurate, then he would have scientifically proved RV!
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    Just sharing this information here... it's basically personal stuff but we should be on the look out for people who have received the same kind of information that I did about this plane. I'm not going to win any popularity contests by talking about that vision that I had.. yet again and those interpretations of it. In fact, I'm probably annoying the heck out of everyone here by even talking about it again. I apologize about that but I'm not sharing all of this again to toot my own horn... though many will be looking at it that way.

    One of the interpretations of my vision that I had a few days ago was the the plane was sucked up and then sucked into a spiraling tunnel or vortex, which is what that vision showed too. There was also the suggestion that because there were 2 other people in the cockpit, it was hijacked. The tall brick building that I saw at the beginning of that vision was a precog for the explosion of a tall brick building that exploded and collapse in NYC the next day. That brick building was inserted in my vision which ended up foretelling what was going to happen the next day to make me pay attention and take the rest of what was showing in that vision as fact.

    Now this morning as I'm reading over everything here, I'm back to the above interpretation of that vision. The passengers and the crew may very well be alive and well, only they presently are not "here".

    What I didn't mention before was that the next day after I had that vision, for a second or two, I saw with my own eyes what looked to be a small group of large headed grey-hybrid-like humanoids appear and then disappear. The intuition that automatically came to me when I saw that was that they popped in like that to let me know that they are the ones who communicated that vision to me that I had the morning before. I thought that was very thoughtful of them to do that for me but I'm still not sure of their motives for taking over that plane so there's no way I can say that these are benevolent beings.

    After I posted that vision here in this thread, I also posted information about an incident that happened back years ago when a 727 disappeared on approach to Miami International Airport only to reappear 10 minutes later. This is all well documented. It was a time blip and when the plane reappeared it's occupants were to discover that their watches were 10 minutes behind the clocks on ground time.

    Anyway, if the above interpretation of my vision is true, about it being sucked up into a time tunnel/vortex or into a spaceship or whatever as opposed to that other kind of tunnel that people see as they are transiting from our plane to the afterlife, I don't expect that they will ever find any debris of that plane anywhere.

    Presently, I'm going to analyze some of those anomalies of this plane's flight and disappearance. I think all of those governmental entities involved in the search for it have been, as I said before, suppressing crucial information. They have been ordered to do that by those who are higher up on the food chain than they are.

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    Also looking into the notion that that plane was zapped by a laser beam ... by advanced technology turned over to a select group by ET's. Or stuff that we may have back engineered.

    But here's what I know:

    The plane was hijacked perhaps by humans working for those gov't entities that are working with "them".

    The plane rapidly flew up or was sucked UP where it then flew into or was sucked into a spiraling tunnel/vortex.

    The confirmation of that vision as one that was depicting the truth about what happened occurred in the form of them showing me that tall brick building at the beginning of it which turned out to be a precog of that tall brick building that exploded and collapse the following morning in NYC.

    At any rate, when stuff like that happens, I pay attention.
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    Looks like the US convinced Malaysia to follow the US narrative. I still feel this plane could still be intact.
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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Listened to this last night, Leuren Moret makes more sense to me than what we are hearing from the MSM about flight 370. Sorry if this was posted already.
    https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=aUgWhUkkzr4

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    Quote Posted by Jonah Fisher
    Being briefed by Malaysia officials they believe most likely location for MH370 is on land somewhere near Chinese/Kyrgyz border.

    (map issued by the Malaysian authorities. The red lines are the two possible corridors where MH370 was detected by a satellite over the Indian Ocean. The authorities would not say who operated the satellite.)

    An aircraft flying on the northern arc would have to pass through air defense networks in India and Pakistan, whose mutual border is heavily militarized, as well as through Afghanistan, where the United States and other NATO countries have operated air bases for more than a decade. Air bases near that arc include Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan, where the U.S. Air Force’s 455th Air Expeditionary Wing is based, and a large Indian air base, Hindon Air Force Station.

    The southern arc, from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean, travels over open water with few islands stretching all the way to Antarctica. If the aircraft took that path, it may have passed near Australia’s Cocos (Keeling) Islands. These remote islands, with a population of fewer than 1,000 people, have a small airport.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...n-indian-ocean

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    Satellite data shows hijacked MH370 was last seen flying towards Pakistan OR Indian Ocean as Malaysian PM admits tracking devices were switched off before an 'experienced' pilot flew it off course

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...xperience.html

    • Officials confirmed missing plane was hijacked by one or several people
    • Could have turned off communication system and steered it off-course
    • Now believed plane could have flown for another seven hours
    • Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak refused to confirm the reports
    • Investigators working to establish motive and where plane was taken
    • Reports suggest home of one of the pilots is currently being searched



    The last known position of MH370 was pinpointed as it headed east over the Peninsular Malaysia. Rada pings then suggest the plane could have then taken two paths along 'corridors' which are currently being searched. The northern corridor extends from northern Thailand to the Kazakstan-Turkmenistan border, while the south extends from Indonesia into the southern Indian Ocean




    Conclusion: Malaysian officials say flight MH370 could have been hijacked by one or several people with flying experience and deliberately diverted

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Here is a map of possible landing areas:

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    via: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...n-indian-ocean

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    This video was posted by the Department of defence the day before the SH370 disappeared.

    Laser Weapon System

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    Pakistan dismisses reports of Malaysian jet in its territory

    Pakistan’s top aviation official on Saturday dismissed Western media reports that missing Malaysian airliner might be hidden somewhere in the country.

    “It’s wrong, plane never came towards Pakistan,” Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Aviation Shujaat Azeem told Dawn.com.

    His attention was drawn on the reports which said the disappeared plane could have potentially reached as far as Pakistan. “Pakistan’s civil aviation radars never spotted this jet,” he said.

    Azeem said the plane disappeared far away from Pakistani air space and was not visible on its radars, “so how it could be hidden somewhere in Pakistan.”

    However, he said that his division was on alert and following all developments related to the incident.

    “At present there are 95 ships of various countries are in the Indian Ocean on search mission,” said Azeem. “No one among those who are on search mission has contacted us to seek information on this tragedy.”

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    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    To steal Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 out of midair would require a pilot who knew how to elude detection by both civilian and military radar. It would take a runway at least a mile long to land the wide-body jet, possibly in the dark, and a hangar big enough to hide it. All without being seen. Improbable but not impossible, experts say.

    Scott Shankland, an American Airlines pilot who spent several years as a co-pilot on Boeing 777s, said a captain would know how to disable radios and the plane’s other tracking systems. But a hijacker, even one trained to fly a plane, “would probably be hunting and pecking quite a while — ‘Do I pull this switch? Do I pull that?’ You could disable a great deal” of the tracking equipment, “but possibly not all of it.” Some of the plane’s data is transmitted automatically from equipment not located in the cockpit, making it even harder to avoid leaving electronic bread crumbs, he said.

    John Hansman, an aeronautics professor at MIT who is familiar with the Boeing 777, said it would be possible for an intruder to turn off the transponders, but knowing how to shut down other systems in a bid to be stealthy would be more difficult.

    If it was a hijacking, “they would have to be somebody who has detailed knowledge of the plane,” said Alan Diehl, a former NTSB crash investigator. “Could they get down below the radar and make a beeline to an abandoned airstrip somewhere? I suppose the short answer is yes. Even today, satellites don’t cover every square kilometer of the Earth.”

    http://news.abnxcess.com/2014/03/ap-...pecial-skills/
    I believe the report saying it was controlled remotely via Satellite or cell towers, it didn't take a pilot with experience.

    the 777 has remote operation ability without having to modify any equipment.

    this is a battle at the top, WDS vs OWO

    one found out what the other was sending to China that would tip the scales so they captured the plane and diverted the shipment...

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    Missing Malaysian flight did not pass over Indian airspace

    Air traffic controllers at Kolkata have ruled out the possibility of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 flying over Indian airspace.

    Speaking to TOI, air traffic controllers' guild secretary Sugata Pramanik said that while flight MH370 could have avoided detection on the Secondary Surveillance Radar, the blip by the huge Boeing 777-200 ER aircraft would surely have been spotted by the Air Force that uses Primary Surveillance Radars to detect such intrusions. Any flight that moves in the north-western direction towards Kazakhstan from Malaysia, as suggested by Razak, is bound to pass through Kolkata Flight Information Region. (FIR).

    "If an aircraft wants to avoid being seen, they can easily become invisible to a civilian radar by switching off the transponder that relays information about the plane. But it cannot avoid defence systems. The Indian Air Force has radars in multiple installations across the country and it is inconceivable that none of them spotted the odd blip with no flight clearance," he said.

    There are nine Air Defence Identification zones in the country that are manned 24x7 to prevent an enemy aircraft from violating Indian airspace.

    Guild member Sushil Mondal concurred, explaining that all hell would break loose if Air Force detected an aircraft that did not have air defence clearance. Any plane flying through Indian airspace is first required to submit the flight plan and manifest to the air traffic controls in its flight path. This is then relayed to the Air Force for permission.

    "There are times when the Air Force finds a blip that does not match a flight plan. That usually happens when flight plans going missing at their end due to a system or link failure. They then immediately contact us for information. If the plane flight plan isn't of suspicious nature, a clearance is granted. Or else, it is asked to return to wherever it came from. In case, we too don't have any information of the aircraft, all hell will break loose and the Air Force may even scramble jets to take the plane down. Nothing of the kind happened last Saturday," said Mondal.

    Kolkata airport has an Automatic Dependence Surveillance Radar and Controller-Pilot Datalink Communication that enables it to not only trail planes when it is in the radar zone of 60 nautical miles or nearly 120 km and beyond through very high frequency radio but also through the data link when the plane goes out of voice communication range. There are large areas in the Kolkata FIR, particularly over Bay of Bengal, that have no radar coverage at present. A radar has been installed in Andaman and Nicobar Islands but is yet to be commissioned.

    Not that it would have helped though. According to the Malaysian PM, those in control of MH370 had deliberately switched off all communication devices to fly undetected for nearly seven hours after it was last sighted on radar.

    Incidentally, Kolkata airport too has a primary surveillance radar but it filters out all flights beyond 25,000 ft because it is used for landings and takeoffs. "If we record all the information up to 46,000 ft, there will be confusion in the ATC. Area controllers look after flights beyond 25,000 ft," explained Pramanik.

    The controllers also pointed out that flying without informing the ATC would be extremely risky at night when there is no visibility and traffic is high. It is akin to several cars speeding on a highway at night with no headlights.

    "To attempt something like that would require meticulous planning by someone who knows flight paths thoroughly to fly at an altitude where he does not anticipate another aircraft. The person then also had an intended destination where a plane as large as a B 777 can land. It is all still a big mystery to us," said Mondal.
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    U.S. officials in Afghanistan would not comment on the possibility that the plane had flown over that country, but that scenario seems unlikely given the tight western control over Afghan airspace.

    Afghan officials said they rely on Americans on such matters. “We do not know what has happened to the plane or if it has overflown Afghan air space. We do not have a radar. Go and ask the Americans,” said a senior Afghan official.

    A Pakistani official said his country has not yet been asked by Malaysia to share its radar data, but will provide them if asked.

    “Given the strong radar system that we have, and also that India and other countries in the region have, it’s very difficult for a plane to fly undetected for so long,” said Abid Qaimkhan, a spokesman for Pakistan’s Civil Aviation Authority.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...4bf_story.html

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    Interesting comment by D.S.:

    0107 - ACARS disconnected
    0121 - "Alright, Good night"
    0122 - Transponder shut down
    shortly after 0130 - Japan Flight makes contact with plane
    Between 0130-0145 - multiple eyewitness reports from Malaysia/Thailand border areas (Businessman, Bus Driver, 'Villagers', etc)

    That puts the plane having already turned around (and possibly even over land) when the Japan flight makes it's contact.

    The pilot of that Japanese plane is quoted as saying

    “We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1:30 a.m. and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace,” the pilot reportedly told New Straits Times. “The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27), but I was sure it was the co-pilot."

    He also says there was a lot of static and some communication was mumbled.

    The static is completely normal, the Japanese flight was roughly 30 minutes ahead with both being in poor communication areas. The mumbling is the curious part, but even it could have been heightened because of the poor connection. Plus, the plane was doing its ascent/descent games at this time too.

    The recording of that call is one of the keys to unlocking what might have been going on. I imagine the US now has recording experts trying to clean it up and figuring out what all can possibly be determined.

    But think about it... The Japanese Pilot had to be talking to the hijacker, whoever that may be, or in the very least a person being forced to fly the plane against his will (although the elevation changes right around this time probably means that is possibly unlikely, and I would assume the forced Pilot would try to give indication of there being a takeover - like say insert the emergency code numbers into the conversation or something.)

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    Uri Geller thinks it was the captain who planned this. That's actually been my thoughts too the past day or so. Now they are saying: Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.

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    I don't really understand why they are just now saying his house was searched. I would think if you were flying a huge plane full of people and the plane disappeared without reason, that it is logical to search then.

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    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...d-2917948.html

    Before it's News has an interesting slant on matters.


    P.S. We can now report that the Malaysian aircraft that had as its final destination Beijing, China did turn around and actually land in the nation of India. It was the heroic Vietnamese Air Traffic Control and their Air Force that communicated directly with the mystery flight out of Malaysia and told them that if they did not turn around the Chinese Air Force would shoot the plane down.
    FACT: The recent attempt by the Chinese Politburo, CNN cable news network and the U.S. Nazi Paperclip NSA to put out disinformation aka false evidence about the Malaysian flight crashing in the China Sea confirms that the Chinese Politburo and the U.S. Nazi Paperclip NSA were preparing to shoot the Malaysian aircraft out of the air and commit massive genocide.
    We can now divulge that three (3) members of the highest level of the Chinese military were on the flight bound for Beijing.
    FACT: When the Malaysian aircraft separately turned off their transponders that was an attempt by the Malaysian aircraft pilot to disguise the aircraft from Chinese radar and accordingly safeguard the passengers from the criminal, crooked worldwide bank-controlled Chinese government...................
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    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    Just sharing this information here... it's basically personal stuff but we should be on the look out for people who have received the same kind of information that I did about this plane. I'm not going to win any popularity contests by talking about that vision that I had.. yet again and those interpretations of it. In fact, I'm probably annoying the heck out of everyone here by even talking about it again. I apologize about that but I'm not sharing all of this again to toot my own horn... though many will be looking at it that way.

    One of the interpretations of my vision that I had a few days ago was the the plane was sucked up and then sucked into a spiraling tunnel or vortex, which is what that vision showed too. There was also the suggestion that because there were 2 other people in the cockpit, it was hijacked. The tall brick building that I saw at the beginning of that vision was a precog for the explosion of a tall brick building that exploded and collapse in NYC the next day. That brick building was inserted in my vision which ended up foretelling what was going to happen the next day to make me pay attention and take the rest of what was showing in that vision as fact.

    Now this morning as I'm reading over everything here, I'm back to the above interpretation of that vision. The passengers and the crew may very well be alive and well, only they presently are not "here".

    What I didn't mention before was that the next day after I had that vision, for a second or two, I saw with my own eyes what looked to be a small group of large headed grey-hybrid-like humanoids appear and then disappear. The intuition that automatically came to me when I saw that was that they popped in like that to let me know that they are the ones who communicated that vision to me that I had the morning before. I thought that was very thoughtful of them to do that for me but I'm still not sure of their motives for taking over that plane so there's no way I can say that these are benevolent beings.

    After I posted that vision here in this thread, I also posted information about an incident that happened back years ago when a 727 disappeared on approach to Miami International Airport only to reappear 10 minutes later. This is all well documented. It was a time blip and when the plane reappeared it's occupants were to discover that their watches were 10 minutes behind the clocks on ground time.

    Anyway, if the above interpretation of my vision is true, about it being sucked up into a time tunnel/vortex or into a spaceship or whatever as opposed to that other kind of tunnel that people see as they are transiting from our plane to the afterlife, I don't expect that they will ever find any debris of that plane anywhere.

    Presently, I'm going to analyze some of those anomalies of this plane's flight and disappearance. I think all of those governmental entities involved in the search for it have been, as I said before, suppressing crucial information. They have been ordered to do that by those who are higher up on the food chain than they are.

    -----
    Also looking into the notion that that plane was zapped by a laser beam ... by advanced technology turned over to a select group by ET's. Or stuff that we may have back engineered.

    But here's what I know:

    The plane was hijacked perhaps by humans working for those gov't entities that are working with "them".

    The plane rapidly flew up or was sucked UP where it then flew into or was sucked into a spiraling tunnel/vortex.

    The confirmation of that vision as one that was depicting the truth about what happened occurred in the form of them showing me that tall brick building at the beginning of it which turned out to be a precog of that tall brick building that exploded and collapse the following morning in NYC.

    At any rate, when stuff like that happens, I pay attention.
    Thanks Roisin. Maybe it is frustrating to get information in this way that does not give a clear narrative with complete data. If physical evidence is found of the airplane, you will have more data and thus will have more information to use in terms of understanding your visions.

    To me, it was clearly an airplane malfunction causing a catastrophic crash (and airlines and airplane manufacturers will try to steer any investigation away from such a conclusion so that they can keep airplanes flying and making money and avoid having to spend money fixing a problkem, and thus reduce profits, fixing a flaw).

    Then, no wreckage was found and then there was the information about the ping signal (no proof that it was that aircraft giving that signal, but no one else admitting to being a source of that signal).

    Perhaps a malfunction cut off all communication (except the ping signal) and for about 4 hours or more the crew tried to control the airplane and find somewhere to land (the way a crew would react). It is perhaps possible that passengers were not informed by the crew that the aircraft was in trouble. But why would they not have responded to messages sent to cellphones (unless those calls to them were made after the plane crashed)?

    There was enough fuel for the plane to reach land.

    What would have cut off all communication, yet kept the plane in the air to transmit the ping signal? What caused the change in direction (an attempt to turn back and land?)?

    Whatever happened, hitting a brick wall seems to be a metaphor for it. Visions often give us a clear view without giving us the information to change what happens. Your vision showed you that the plane hit a brick wall and went down, but what that brick wall was was not shown to you.

    If the brick wall was a catastrophic crash, the evidence would have been found. If the plane was hijacked, taken off course and then crashed, it was a very bizarre hijacking.

    Personally, I would not travel on a 777 until this mystery is solved. Maybe a mechanical failure caused all communication to cease and problems in flying the plane and the crew bravely kept the plane in the air as long as they could, looking for somewhere to land. But, if they kept on flying straight ahead, land was before them, so, pilot error in a situation of dire emergency?

    Was this a black ops disappearance?

    Was there a UFO that interfered with this flight?

    The flight did hit a wall. But what was that wall?
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