Another financial pro kills self

[mgray]

2014 is proving to be quite a year for the cluster of banker and financial sector suicides.
Not sure what the motive behind it is since most markets are doing quite well despite itself.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/trader-...atest-suicide/

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by mgray (here)
2014 is proving to be quite a year for the cluster of banker and financial sector suicides.
Not sure what the motive behind it is since most markets are doing quite well despite itself.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/trader-...atest-suicide/

Could it be a situation where he embezzled or insider traded?

[Craig]

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Posted by mgray (here)
2014 is proving to be quite a year for the cluster of banker and financial sector suicides.
Not sure what the motive behind it is since most markets are doing quite well despite itself.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/12/trader-...atest-suicide/

Could it be a situation where he embezzled or insider traded?

Or knew of something that others (superiors) didn't want him to know?

[mgray]

Don't believe that's they case with most of these recent deaths -- although it makes for good fodder on the web.
No I think it's deeper. But I'm sure I would be ridiculed for showing empathy for this class of people.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by mgray (here)
Don't believe that's they case with most of these recent deaths -- although it makes for good fodder on the web.
No I think it's deeper. But I'm sure I would be ridiculed for showing empathy for this class of people.

No, I for one don't feel that way!
Back in the dark ages, usury was the only trade available to Jewish people, correct?
They were forced into it because it filled a niche/need in Christian areas where usury was not legal.

In the modern world, people are born into it, groomed for it, etc.
I guess there are many who choose it, but even those people can become depressed and overwhelmed by the evil of money!

"The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil"

Respect and greed are two different things!

[Operator]

Posted by mgray (here)
Not sure what the motive behind it is since most markets are doing quite well despite itself.

That's what we (the public) are currently seeing ... some are privy to what is ahead

[jackovesk]

At least these people won't have to (Kill/Suicide) themselves, once the general public finds out what they've really done and that goes for the those that Suicided them as well...

[T Smith]

Posted by mgray (here)
Don't believe that's they case with most of these recent deaths -- although it makes for good fodder on the web.
No I think it's deeper. But I'm sure I would be ridiculed for showing empathy for this class of people.

Please elaborate. What do you think it is? This latest death appears a genuine suicide to me.

I will also correct you. I can only speak only for myself, but distain and empathy are not mutually exclusive. It is very human to explore both emotions at the same time.

[T Smith]

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Posted by mgray (here)
Not sure what the motive behind it is since most markets are doing quite well despite itself.

That's what we (the public) are currently seeing ... some are privy to what is ahead

You may be right; this may be what's behind these string of deaths. But this explanation just doesn't ring true to me. First, most of us here have a pretty good idea what is ahead. Anyone with a modicum of curiosity and insight pretty much has clued in to the fact that there is a very large storm ahead. Until we actually experience it, however, we have no way of knowing how we will really react to what's ahead. We are talking about an intellectual understanding of what's down the path on which we are currently afoot. But is that really enough to take one's life? In other words, if that's the reason, why now? If I were the type of person who had some kind of guilt about what was about to unfold, and if I were also the type of person who was a coward and couldn't face what was about to unfold (presumably for participating in unleashing the ensuing hell and unspeakable suffering on humankind), wouldn't I wait until the actual events began unfolding and it became unbearable (to my conscience) before I decided to take the easy way out? Wouldn't I wait to jump in front of the train after there were mass riots in the streets, death, starvation, rape, pillage, and civilization itself was aflame? Why now?

[Operator]

Posted by T Smith (here)
You may be right; this may be what's behind these string of deaths. But this explanation just doesn't ring true to me. First, most of us here have a pretty good idea what is ahead.

It was the first response that came up ... And of course there are a lot of people that can anticipate what's ahead.
But the difference is .... some are responsible for it

[mgray]

I get the fact that its very easy to demonize the bankers. And conspiracy makes for enticing reading, but these financial pros who have committed suicide are not the PTB. They probably know less than the average PA reader on this.
These people for the most part were cogs in the wheel, better compensated than most cog, but nothing more.
What has changed is the overt or very public means of suicide, which baffles me and the experts I am speaking to.
Seven or nine (pick a number) in 2014 is rather high for public suicides in one profession. In 2007-2008 there were unexplained deaths, but it happen in private with very little reporting done, so its difficult to match the numbers.
Thanks for your interest.

[T Smith]

Posted by mgray (here)
I get the fact that its very easy to demonize the bankers. And conspiracy makes for enticing reading, but these financial pros who have committed suicide are not the PTB. They probably know less than the average PA reader on this.
These people for the most part were cogs in the wheel, better compensated than most cog, but nothing more.
What has changed is the overt or very public means of suicide, which baffles me and the experts I am speaking to.
Seven or nine (pick a number) in 2014 is rather high for public suicides in one profession. In 2007-2008 there were unexplained deaths, but it happen in private with very little reporting done, so its difficult to match the numbers.
Thanks for your interest.

I agree 100% with this assessment. I know full well these young bankers, with wives and children, perhaps with naked ambitions, are just high-paid pawns. It doesn't make them innocent... and they do provide public targets for the anger. As a human being, however, I also empathize when a life is snuffed out suddenly and tragically, under dubious circumstances. We are all actors on a stage; some choose darker and more frail roles than others. This has been a part of the human condition for millennia.

It is indeed baffling. As a writer, I trust you're pursuing this mystery to get to the bottom of it? Or is that sort of pursuit taboo?

[Lifebringer]

Maybe someone told them there is no hell, and this is their last life, so they won't be passing it along to anyone that knows the scam they did. The family that doesn't know will be the ones to spend it, if they survive the karma they've put out.

Just got this from within. A question of how long they worked for these firms? I ask because there is a clause that says you can't commit suicide and collect on a insurance policy, if it's done within 2 years of signing the policy. Perhaps they found they were gonna be flat out broke, and are leaning on the insurance from their death, to take care of their families. If I found out the money accrued in my account, was nothing but a elite oilpipe dream of more wars, and now they've been connected for prosecution.

They are slick and if they are doing this, I wouldn't put it past them to try and make amends to the family, after they've gone broke. It's not the 1st time they've done it, and with the banks and corporations taking out insurance on their employees, I see them putting a price on them now to collect, so they can save their own bacon in fines.

IDK, but that's what's running through as I read those suicides.

[Lifebringer]

Maybe they want their families to collect the insurance, before the shtf? It's possible they would find out what's coming and don't have the necessary survival tools financially without credit debt, to keep the family afloat, if they have to pay it all out in lawyer's fees. How would they feel, knowing they're guilty of the crime, yet use the money for a lighter jail sentence and leave the family destitute. The humiliation in court, the threats from those who paid them to do it, and the family shame on the name if made public, like Bernie Madoff's son.

I think it's desperation, to try and correct destitution for the family. But that's just me with a "get to the bottom of the emotion that made them do it," mind.

[ghostrider]

someone could have pushed him easily , notice in a world full of cameras on every corner , lamppost , rooftop , etc , there is no footage ... you would think a train station would be like an airport , plenty of cameras ... maybe he was told , get with the NWO or your out , and we'll make it look like a suicide , and the newspaper will go along with whatever we say ... who knows , I read where he was divorced and had children , that can drive a man insane , losing his family ... it took me seven years for the shock to wear off ...

[T Smith]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
someone could have pushed him easily , notice in a world full of cameras on every corner , lamppost , rooftop , etc , there is no footage ... you would think a train station would be like an airport , plenty of cameras ... maybe he was told , get with the NWO or your out , and we'll make it look like a suicide , and the newspaper will go along with whatever we say ... who knows , I read where he was divorced and had children , that can drive a man insane , losing his family ... it took me seven years for the shock to wear off ...

As much as I'm not too big on television and mediated kitsch in general, I just so happened to watch episode 1, season two of House of Cards tonight. I will say this, and I'm a very harsh critic: this show is definitely art imitating life.... or doing its damned best try at it. So yes, the scenario you suggest couldn't be scripted any better.

[InTheBackground]

Perhaps the "suicides" might serve as very public warnings to other insiders who *might* be tempted to gain a conscience and spill the beans? As in, this could happen to you. And your wife. And your children. And your parents.....

Just another possibility. Perhaps.

[aheb]

I see John Corzine's son has committed suicide ( Corzine of MF Global ) . You may remember last year a lot of highly placed bankers retired early. In one sense I can understand this, when you are highly stressed as opposed to depressed you tend to seek a violent suicide such as jumping off a building or in front of a train, so maybe they were very stressed, but they are not the only people with stressfull jobs and it does seem strange that all this is happening now at once to one groupd of people i.e bankers