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    Does anyone else get a negative feeling from C Brown's manner of speaking? I feel he is over-enunciating; nervous; not at ease with what he is saying . Is he being "used" or "forced" in some way to participate in this? I ALMOST hear/see a cry for help, or am I totally insane by now (not impossible! _
    He talks that way other times, though. I've spoken with him and interviewed him, and that seems to be the way he talks when he goes into explanation "professor" mode...or maybe each time I heard him he was nervous, which I don't think was the case really. I don't think he is being forced to do this, but no, I wouldn't call his speaking manner the most practiced public speaking technique, either. It feels to me as if he wants and needs so much for the listener to understand the topic and do what he would say is really "getting" how amazing and important it is that it can come across as a bit stilted. He did have a whole lot riding on that speech, so I guess he was trying to make it undeniably clear and scientific, but still hold in his excitement, maybe. I would agree on the speaking style, but I guess when we try to put a ton of information and passion into words that would make a complex idea sound simple enough for what he calls the "masses", it might affect how we come across.

    I don't know that this all worked out as he actually expected, but I don't think he is being controlled by anything outside his passion for convincing mainstream science and people that RV is totally verifiable and be vindicated, while also sharing info that he feels could make a big difference. I'm not criticizing him in this post, but just making observations. Nothing you said sounds insane...the speech patterns are definitely distinct.

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    Thank you, Kirolak, you managed to put into words what I saw but was unable to articulate. Discomfort, yes. Whether caused by mind control or unwilling participation, or by the knowledge of being a con man, I don't know.

    About the "negativity" in this thread. Ever heard of EFT - emotional freedom technique? It is a system for healing that incorporates the negative into the healing process. It is far more effective than positive affirmations, because it allows truth. Positive affirmations require a belief in something that does not exist in the hopes of bringing it into being. EFT acknowledges the negative, the reason for the problem in the first place, and then helps the body, mind, spirit, soul to heal the negative and bring a new positive into being. My feeling about those who suggest we only speak in "positive" terms is that there is too much discomfort with truth, because truth frankly, is sometimes negative.

    I can only speak to my own feelings of negativity surrounding this debacle. And yes, my use of the word "debacle" is most deliberate. I doubt there are many members of the PA forum who have not already, many times, been introduced to the concept of extra terrestrial building of the pyramids, or at the very least, a massively more advanced human civilization in the past that built them. It's sort of an "everyone knows" concept that they were not built with ropes and planks hauling rocks up walls too steep to allow enough human energy to be present to accomplish the task. Everyone knows they were built with some form of energy we don't have or understand. So, presenting a "remote view" of the process isn't really anything new. It also isn't new to see the probability of alien interference (or even initial creation) in human affairs, including a slave/master relationship or a god/servant relationship. In fact, nothing that he presented was "new."

    So, what is supposed to be new? Is it that the idea that because a remote viewer said it - and did so on video - it is therefore "proof"? That's about the only piece of the whole thing that isn't something already pretty thoroughly discussed. If that is what is "new" then I reject it completely, because I've seen too much proof in the past that remote viewing is not always correct.

    I just had another thought as well. Courtney seems determined to present this as "our" history. I wonder why he isn't touting the possibility that these events occurred in someone else's universe timeline? Huh. Doesn't fit with the program, eh?

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    Hi just to mention that I am familiar with EFT & use it on myself (& my cats!) often
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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    If you want 'real Masters' , go somewhere to the Himalayas ( or perhaps Ecuador, the heights are the same ) and if you are honest individual you still have the chance to find them .
    And this is a good segue. Remote Viewing has been around for a long time. It is one of the higher Siddhis of the yogi's and yogini's, which include teleportation, remote viewing and bi-location. The lower Siddhis, also known as psychic abilities, include: clairaudience, clairesentience and clairevoyance. This is the ability to see and feel and hear internally.

    The great sages teach us that these abilities arise naturally as we learn to harness our energy, to husband it, amplify it, and emanate it through intention. If we are losing energy through trauma and drama, offering up our energy for astral vampires, and resonating in the frequencies of fear, anger and grief of the lower terrestrial chakras, then the Siddhis abilities will not arise. If we learn how to be righteous (right use of energy)with our energy, these psychic abilities just come naturally without any effort.

    So, taking one of the Higher ancient Siddhis practices and using a controlled defined protocol, within an academic or military setting, does not appear to me, in my opinion, as the natural arising of the Higher Siddhis practices through the right use of energy. Sure, it works, but why not just clear your own chakras and hold the fulness of spirit in your body and naturally be able to see everything anywhere at anytime, either through remote or through instant teleportation to the physical location? Why all the fuss?

    I've linked a story by Tom Kenyon where he experienced such Higher Siddhis on Kodiak Island.

    http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis
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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    If you want 'real Masters' , go somewhere to the Himalayas ( or perhaps Ecuador, the heights are the same ) and if you are honest individual you still have the chance to find them .
    And this is a good segue. Remote Viewing has been around for a long time. It is one of the higher Siddhis of the yogi's and yogini's, which include teleportation, remote viewing and bi-location. The lower Siddhis, also known as psychic abilities, include: clairaudience, clairesentience and clairevoyance. This is the ability to see and feel and hear internally.

    The great sages teach us that these abilities arise naturally as we learn to harness our energy, to husband it, amplify it, and emanate it through intention. If we are losing energy through trauma and drama, offering up our energy for astral vampires, and resonating in the frequencies of fear, anger and grief of the lower terrestrial chakras, then the Siddhis abilities will not arise. If we learn how to be righteous (right use of energy)with our energy, these psychic abilities just come naturally without any effort.

    So, taking one of the Higher ancient Siddhis practices and using a controlled defined protocol, within an academic or military setting, does not appear to me, in my opinion, as the natural arising of the Higher Siddhis practices through the right use of energy. Sure, it works, but why not just clear your own chakras and hold the fulness of spirit in your body and naturally be able to see everything anywhere at anytime, either through remote or through instant teleportation to the physical location? Why all the fuss?

    I've linked a story by Tom Kenyon where he experienced such Higher Siddhis on Kodiak Island.

    http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis
    Isn't part of these practices to allow these Siddhis to come and go just like the traumas, etc.
    If we try to use them while there are originally arise we get pulled downward?
    Those downward pulling forces could be from a variety of sources.

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    I have to agree with Ilie on this one, the significance of the announcement has very less to do with 'discovering' the origins of the pyramids and very more to do with the viability of RV (misnomer, as Amzer Zoe correctly points out) in terms of further research and development both for the individual and for a group/institution.

    Ilie, I contest your 0% results. I suggest you and others may have had some success with RV, but on an instinctive level as opposed to a "scientific" attempt. My first 'attempt' at RV wasn't even an attempt, I drifted off to sleep in a bathtub and suddenly (without intent or impetus) was watching my best friend heatedly inform his parents why he and his girlfriend broke up that day. At the time, I was unaware of any conflicts in the relationship (i.e. it wasn't a preconception/precognition of something I was already aware of as being inevitable) and I later confirmed all aspects of the exchange, even as far as placing their positions and actions in their backyard during the exchange. Bottom line: sometimes it is easier when you're not 'trying', and sometimes you just have to jiggle the keys in the lock to get it to turn.

    As for the announcement re: RV, it seems to me that this is a grand invitation to any and all who are able/willing to participate. Remember the 3000 monk prayer study in DC (as featured in the movie What the Bleep?)? On one hand, this would indicate that the 'monks' don't need to be present (especially as indicated by Amzer Zoe). Further, this would indcate that one needs not be a 'present' witness things to BE a witness. Naturally, the military has developed methods to counteract RV,... but to what magnitude? I don't doubt they might be able to block the attempts of 10s or 20s of RV'ers,... but what about 1000 working independently but collectively? What if 1 thousandth of the population (~7,000,000,000*0.001= 7 mil) started even casually doing it? Or even a ten-thousandth? 700k RV's operating fractally would be awful hard to keep a lid on, and it might be harder for the various elite factions to operate if there's an RV'er or two looking over their shoulder most of the time,....

    I don't know what to think about CB (mostly cuz I haven't bothered to watch the video yet ). I don't know if he's doing it 'right' or doing it 'wrong', though it occurs to me that I would probably be MORE disappointed if I were to have found that CB was a really GOOD salesman; I find his amateurism rather qualifying (rather than disqualifying). It tells me that it only occurred to him that he would have to 'sell' his results after coming to them, nevermind any biases he may have toward the work and his perception of it.

    Besides, to me the significance of the announcement is not "The pyramids were built with alien tech and slave labor!" the announcement is that "We (Farsight Institute) have confirmed (seen) that the pyramids were built with alien tech and slave labor, and you can too!!".

    I'll drink to that.

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Remote Viewing [...] The labeling of that activity is, first of all, a misnomer.

    The same goes for "telepathy".

    Why is it a misnomer? [Because] in that Orwellian equation, there is no distance.

    If there is no distance, how can the doing of it be "tele-"something or "remote"? [...]

    Accordingly the current definition of "remote viewing" has it completely and exactly backward: the perceiving being is remotely handling a body on Earth to do the doodling and recording of the direct perceptions...
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    ...and this , Shezbeth, is the best and most we may gather from all of this, imho, Thank You!

    As for the announcement re: RV, it seems to me that this is a grand invitation to any and all who are able/willing to participate. Remember the 3000 monk prayer study in DC (as featured in the movie What the Bleep?)? On one hand, this would indicate that the 'monks' don't need to be present (especially as indicated by Amzer Zoe). Further, this would indicate that one needs not be a 'present' witness things to BE a witness. Naturally, the military has developed methods to counteract RV,... but to what magnitude? I don't doubt they might be able to block the attempts of 10s or 20s of RV'ers,... but what about 1000 working independently but collectively? What if 1 thousandth of the population (~7,000,000,000*0.001= 7 mil) started even casually doing it? Or even a ten-thousandth? 700k RV's operating fractally would be awful hard to keep a lid on, and it might be harder for the various elite factions to operate if there's an RV'er or two looking over their shoulder most of the time,....


    If enough of us are simply in unison of thought with strong heartfelt intentions of higher results regarding a focused matter for the benefit of many...that matter becomes a self-propelled higher doing changing to a paradigm of love!
    And this is a good portion of why we are here, imho once again!

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    If you want 'real Masters' , go somewhere to the Himalayas ( or perhaps Ecuador, the heights are the same ) and if you are honest individual you still have the chance to find them .
    And this is a good segue. Remote Viewing has been around for a long time. It is one of the higher Siddhis of the yogi's and yogini's, which include teleportation, remote viewing and bi-location. The lower Siddhis, also known as psychic abilities, include: clairaudience, clairesentience and clairevoyance. This is the ability to see and feel and hear internally.

    The great sages teach us that these abilities arise naturally as we learn to harness our energy, to husband it, amplify it, and emanate it through intention. If we are losing energy through trauma and drama, offering up our energy for astral vampires, and resonating in the frequencies of fear, anger and grief of the lower terrestrial chakras, then the Siddhis abilities will not arise. If we learn how to be righteous (right use of energy)with our energy, these psychic abilities just come naturally without any effort.

    So, taking one of the Higher ancient Siddhis practices and using a controlled defined protocol, within an academic or military setting, does not appear to me, in my opinion, as the natural arising of the Higher Siddhis practices through the right use of energy. Sure, it works, but why not just clear your own chakras and hold the fulness of spirit in your body and naturally be able to see everything anywhere at anytime, either through remote or through instant teleportation to the physical location? Why all the fuss?

    I've linked a story by Tom Kenyon where he experienced such Higher Siddhis on Kodiak Island.

    http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis
    Isn't part of these practices to allow these Siddhis to come and go just like the traumas, etc.
    If we try to use them while there are originally arise we get pulled downward?
    Those downward pulling forces could be from a variety of sources.

    JohnF


    I praise you for that understanding John. Siddhis ( special powers of whatever sort ) are commonly understood as byproduct , symptomatic occurrence that spontaneously manifests on certain levels of spiritual realisation or meditation training .

    On traditional spiritual path ..the attainment is not 'special powers' . Those had been practised and desired by 'magicians' in all ages, of both categories .. white n black ..and all colours in between ,

    even if it's healing powers or clairvoyance or any other such ability, practising them out of broader context , without having firm idea , deeper idea on 'what is it that you want to achieve' was always viewed as misleading .

    And there's a stark warning on use of those powers, by many ancient masters, not one, against experimenting with Siddhis albeit using them for ANY worldly goal .

    They're skills that can be trained ... but even these days , if you go to traditional Hindu or Buddhist ashrams , you're to meet with wisdom ...first of all , and your truth seeking motivations are thoroughly questioned and tested , and talk of 'clairvoyance' is considered something that comes in on tenth place ..

    One old teacher of mine who was a yogi .. 20 years ago in Rishikesh .. said the ashram was sometimes visited by Sadhu who could manifest Laddus ( type of sweet balls ) out of his hand , and give them to children .
    The way they talked about it was they had no doubt he could actually do that, he was poor ragged mendicant who did not accept money , it's not clear whether he ate or not . Sadhus often travel around half naked and he was clearly not pulling the Laddus out of his pocket .
    When the seniors of ashram asked him 'how does he do that, whether it's a magic trick or not ' , he allegedly answered 'it's a Vidya ( knowledge ) , it can be learned by practice ' .

    Of course, none was on his level to be able to learn the same thing . But speaking of skills ...

    if you think of good magicians who know how to perform hand tricks, it takes years and years of patience and training . What you get at the end ?

    You have a 'skill'. If you want to misuse it and steal chocolates in the supermarket it's very poor outcome in my opinion. If you are on-stage performer, you get name and fame , not much else . Money and good life, no higher spirituality would agree on this being the 'goal' .

    Natural abilities .. yes completely , some are born with natural abilities that make them different from others but sooner or later you find that people start disliking you when you see or do 'too much' ,
    secondly , there are things you'll care to miss in life for those abilities and thirdly, the moment you use them in open manner , you get caught in chain of causes and consequences .. that may not be exactly what you hoped for .


    Remote viewing was exactly developed by military intelligence and psychologists on bases of certain ancient knowledge, meditation practises, that's been around since mankind exists , actually .

    But their backgrounds .. and where they come from.. has more solid ethical and psycho-spiritual base that I feel is largely discounted in this context .


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    I hoped for a different first presentation by an external party with irrefutable proof and then add the RV stuff.
    I didn't hope for it. I expected it.

    Somewhere in the early goings of this thread I made the comment that if this was to be a shared announcement then it should be automatically understood that his part of it would be focusing on the RV aspect of it. I mean it only makes sense.

    So why did I want more? No why did I expect more? Did I simply let my imagination run away on me?

    Well let's have a look-see at some excerpts of Courtney's own posts:

    Quote Jan 22:

    Part of that announcement will happen on this Facebook page, right here.

    There will be an announcement that will change everything, and it will happen in February. You will read about it here, and elsewhere.

    Quote Feb 11

    There is still a lot of activity behind the scenes, including disagreement, angry emails, wonder, amazement, implied threats, international phone calls,..., you name it, it is there.

    And then this is the big one:
    Quote Feb 15

    What I need now is some sleep. I have been on the phone all night with people in the U.K., India, South Africa, and elsewhere, all involved with the upcoming announcement. From the very beginning, the anticipated date of the announcement was 28 February 2014. But there were some uncertainties due to the international nature of the issues involved, so we held off releasing the date. It was wise we did that. Nothing can stop the announcement, but the date involved a lot of coordination with various parties. The problem has been further exacerbated due to the fact that the announcement involves a location which at the present time is not entirely stable politically. Also, shipping of critical materials was involved, and one shipment turned out to have been corrupted, apparently while in transit. This is now being addressed.

    After lots of discussion with people all over the world who are involved one way or another, we are now expecting the announcement to happen in mid-March, about two weeks later than originally anticipated.
    No, it wasn't my imagination. It's my comprehension.

    And my comprehension skills are just fine.


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    Thanks Harley for this post! You actually dug up all the previous statements that I had in mind also but
    I was too tired to find them in a short time. The reason I used the word hope is because I was already
    familiar with his previous presentations and was also expecting a different kind of announcement.
    My hope was that the other part would be leading.

    This presentation does not clearly reflect what RV is capable of. If it is intended for newbies he should
    have explained a little bit better what it is, how to change mental state, what working 'blind' means etc.
    They jumped too quickly in a 'theatrical' setup that can easily mis-interpreted. And although Dick clearly
    described a pyramid with an almost metallic looking capstone and emitting RF signals the conclusion was
    that they were built for no other reason than to keep the prisoners busy. Well there is a term for that:
    clearly cognitive dissonance ... how will that help change this world?

    People who would really shake up this world are shut up for good. If they let them speak ... well then
    there are elements that will fit their agenda. Perhaps he was set up to discredit himself.

    I was expecting stuff with the caliber of subjects in Cosmic Voyage or Cosmic Explorers
    But then supported by other physical scientific proof. The above mentioned books are really
    impressive ... when you believe them to be true. But ... !!

    1. I had my own doubts that RV could be as detailed as some of the contents in the book are described
    2. Amzer Zo already indicated (with material from Laura Knight Jadczyk) that those books were not (completely) done by RV alone
    3. Ed Dames left the agencies in 1995, Courtney is one of his first students and writes a detailed book (using RV) 1 year later?

    I don't need promos for RV ... I know what is does and understand the potential for world change (no more secrets).
    However the world only changes if the consciousness of the masses changes and I thought the announcement would
    be material to do just that. Well if I show people what Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian minister of defense, is saying or
    the astronauts or what is told during citizen hearing on disclosure without blinking an eye and then still say it is all
    BS then what suffice to make people think differently ? I think that the virtual circle mentioned in the impl. postings
    is a very tight closed loop and is very, very difficult to break.

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    To explain clairvoyance , RVing or direct insight or intuition throughly .. we'd have to be firstly able to define what 'intelligence' is, biological intelligence .
    Because all you can think of as 'mysterious' , 'metaphysical' or 'intuitive' is nothing else than natural display of your biological intelligence when it resonates on higher frequency than we can rationally explain.

    I 'd testify to this personally .. but it's not easy to prove as long as we're not masters of our selves, we don't have these 'higher frequencies' under control ,
    and those 'control mechanisms' with them are very subtle . Higher you go, each levels 'controls' are more subtle than the level you 'operate' .

    It's not a 'trick'. Interestingly enough , you have many people who are empaths or intuitives and are not good in simple maths at the same time.
    Some household mums or uneducated village 'seers' who struggle with rationality are good example in this category .

    But it works for most of us , in levels. Direct insight is not phenomenally different from straight logic, it just works number of times faster . If you do maths and are fast, you can calculate results in seconds or minutes, if you're not so fast , it takes the same brain to proceed the same amount of information much longer to achieve the same result.

    When someone 'manifests' their intuition, as they say, they're not aware of counting logically anything .. yet, they're able to get to correct result in no time , how ?
    The frequency of the process, the calculation taking place in nanoseconds , is much higher than can be noticed by our comparatively slow, logical awareness .

    If you do meditation.. you're bound to discover some of these 'higher frequencies' consciously , more or less . You see they're in you but it takes much longer to be able to use them at your will,
    because the controls go high up , they're on more levels than you want to admit .

    And also , as John mentioned , the moment your energy gets 'pulled down' to lower density .. it mixes up the whole profile .

    That's why , people who want to do some mind work need specific environment , protected and emotionally stable enough , to avoid pitfalls .

    ...

    Yet another point is that once you adopt certain level of experience/realisation and ability as natural .. the best chance to get away with it is use it quietly , at times of need and tell no one .
    Each of the energy levels .. is like a vault that can not be mined indefinitely . The energy you use as 'mind worker' is very subtle , yet it's an energy . It needs motion , transformation and exchange .

    If you start 'spending it' without taking care of all the other processes, you'll soon meet your own end .. or end of your 'ability' .

    Higher the frequency , more powerful it maybe in certain ways, it still requires source , not your everyday food .

    If you show you are 'at source' of anything others do not have access to at that time, you 'll be asked to follow their 'common logic' and will be mined for whatever you have achieved .

    This way , many great yogis and meditators found themselves back on the square one, after achieving seemingly very advanced stages .. someone came and asked them for a 'boon'. And only to 'prove themselves right' , they had to show helpful hand and were robbed of their peace .. and it took them long to get back on the path.

    Vedas and Puranas are full of good old stories about it . Sometimes it's teachers, Gods or Demons, coming in disguise .. to test an adept .


    Guess I have got carried off here ...



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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Guess I have got carried off here ...
    I don't think you got carried away, I think that this particular part of the subject is the most important.
    A more in depth discussion of where all this interest in abilities came from, and how the more sound spiritual base gets abandoned to create yet another controlling activity.
    might turn out to be very helpful in the future, especially since a lot of forms of it seem to be coming with unwanted strings.


    I have spent a long time chasing the flashier parts of spiritually linked subjects, and have always felt that I had come home when I got back to the simplicity behind all "searching",
    which for me is to find that the actual reality is already here, what I am is enough.
    The searcher, the seeker is not the real me , but a by product of believing I need more than what is already here.

    You mentioned context of the work out of which these Siddhis arise.
    I have stated as close as I can, what I understand that to be.

    Your experience in the traditional search goes far deeper than mine, I would like to hear more from you specifically about the contexts available to a student. Perhaps all who have followed this thread can now be looking at what will we do with all that Courtney has done here, and how will we find something of substance to further a healthier world?

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    I still struggle with the "Siddhis that you're not supposed to use" concept...

    It's like one day I discover I can run or swim and then some masters tell me that I should limit myself to waking and not abuse swimming or running, nor desire then nor make use of them in a "wordily" manner. This is not new, I've found these ideas in many books and quotes.

    To me this looks like a "do not cross" barrier whose purpose is to keep humans at a certain level of development and no further! God forbid you would demonstrate PK powers or teleportation to the "ignorant" masses! The master (or some karmic process) will be quick to punish you an put you back in line or some bad thing or disaster will come of it... so keep your power hidden.

    This also has parallels to "giving weapons to children" and perhaps some powers can be abused more easily than others? But those that can be liken to swimming or running should not be hidden, restricted, avoided, not used, not enjoyed and so on... If I want to take my chances and run... why should I not be allowed to do it ? Why should I run in hiding or with special groups and just walk for the rest of the time... same goes with "advanced/efficient" perception abilities (with their hierarchies of higher and lesser ones...)

    Another thing that seems confusing is that "wordily matters" are somehow more "mundane" and less "sacred" than "spiritual pursuit/growth", and therefore not worthy to make use of "special abilities" in such cases. That kinda throws out the window "The Divine in every one and every thing" (that including a basked of rotten apples, just to give a mild example here).

    I may be completely ignorant of such issues and I reserve the right to change my mind later on .

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    Ilie .. you can have an exception .. and go by the ''Always use your special powers'' rule . There's such a rule... as forum webmaster, you know better than I how important it is to go by the book...

    Practise comes with 'repeated exercise' . Rule is an exercise . The final state has no rules no exercises .

    There is no master or rules outside of yourself .. you are to be the master, you are the master of yourself .

    John ..please let me think before reply ....



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    Interesting analogy... I do have "Administrative Powers" over this forum. I do not abuse them, but so far I have not been tempted to, so it does not feel like I am restricted by a rule book. But a very good analogy indeed, that my mind can grasp...

    Meditate on this, I will....

    EDIT: The more I think of it the more it makes sense . I am having a pretty big AHA! moment here... so thank you!

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    Hi Ilie,

    Maybe, when one makes the decision to go for the state of the so called "enlightenment", which is all about 100% identification with unconditional love, then it might become a distraction to engage in activities such as you describe.

    On other accounts, such as trying to live in truth, I fail to see a reason as to stay away from these.
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    Wonderful explanation, Agape, in your eloquent posts. Reminds me of a story:

    Once, a great devotee prayed: Dearest Creator, I have the great pleasure of living in your presence, but none of my dear family and friends are here. Can I bring them to see you?

    The Creator replied: Yes, of course! Bring them along and I’ll be pleased to admit them into my presence.... So the devotee gathered up all of his friends and family who excitedly followed him along the path toward the divine presence.

    Suddenly, the sky began to rain silver coins. And much of the crowd stopped right there and began to gather the coins, loading up their pockets and arms with as much as they could carry. “Never mind!” they said. “We’ll stay here!”

    The rest climbed on. And the sky now began to rain gold in abundance. Most of the remaining group stopped, gathering up as much as they could.

    The few trudged on. And suddenly the sky began dropping diamonds and jewels.

    In the end, only the devotee arrived back at the Creator’s realm.

    That’s why the siddhis are considered a distraction in spiritual development. They’re along the way, not the goal.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    Interesting analogy... I do have "Administrative Powers" over this forum. I do not abuse them, but so far I have not been tempted to, so it does not feel like I am restricted by a rule book. But a very good analogy indeed, that my mind can grasp...

    Meditate on this, I will....

    EDIT: The more I think of it the more it makes sense . I am having a pretty big AHA! moment here... so thank you!
    The ability to be a responsible administrator on a forum includes the abilities to create strong drastic effects on others.
    So skills centering around dealing with emotions, civil ways of reminding others of the forum rules, etc are important to learn first.
    In my view, spiritual abilities come out of a larger set of abilities, including detachment, compassion, awareness of consequences etc that if not learned well
    before skills that create drastic effects on the physical universe such as looking at battle plans hundreds of miles away ,etc.
    The big factor in all this seems to me to be the self, or specialness traps, that can lead to abuses of power, assuming of false authority, etc.

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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    Interesting analogy... I do have "Administrative Powers" over this forum. I do not abuse them, but so far I have not been tempted to, so it does not feel like I am restricted by a rule book. But a very good analogy indeed, that my mind can grasp...

    Meditate on this, I will....

    EDIT: The more I think of it the more it makes sense . I am having a pretty big AHA! moment here... so thank you!
    I would never suspect you to abuse your Admin powers . The rules .. are rules of programming you've once learned, acquired, trained .. so you can use them now for everyones benefit .
    That's what I meant 'going by the book', naturally , accompanied by your moral credit that predicted your being chosen for the role .

    It says .. there's something to train.. to achieve good results . Unless you come from the 'we're already there' point of view . The problem with all of us .. most of us... is that we are slow students .

    We do things we know that we should not do .



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    Quote Posted by kirolak (here)
    Does anyone else get a negative feeling from C Brown's manner of speaking? I feel he is over-enunciating; nervous; not at ease with what he is saying . Is he being "used" or "forced" in some way to participate in this? I ALMOST hear/see a cry for help, or am I totally insane by now (not impossible! _
    That's just him, reading - what he feels is an important message.
    There's nothing wrong with it IMHO

    Some things you should know about Courtney Brown:

    + He was president of his class, when a student at Rutgers
    + He (must have) surely studied acting and performance
    + He meditates regularly and is a vegetarian
    + He has a son named "Aziz" - whose name may have been chosen by the mother

    If you want to hear his "more natural voice", I think you will pick it up in this segment where he is teaching
    in his Sci-Fi and Politics course, re: Left Hand of Darkness

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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    I hoped for a different first presentation by an external party with irrefutable proof and then add the RV stuff.
    I didn't hope for it. I expected it...
    / Parts cut out /
    ...And then this is the big one:
    Quote Feb 15

    What I need now is some sleep. I have been on the phone all night with people in the U.K., India, South Africa, and elsewhere, all involved with the upcoming announcement. From the very beginning, the anticipated date of the announcement was 28 February 2014. But there were some uncertainties due to the international nature of the issues involved, so we held off releasing the date. It was wise we did that. Nothing can stop the announcement, but the date involved a lot of coordination with various parties. The problem has been further exacerbated due to the fact that the announcement involves a location which at the present time is not entirely stable politically. Also, shipping of critical materials was involved, and one shipment turned out to have been corrupted, apparently while in transit. This is now being addressed.

    After lots of discussion with people all over the world who are involved one way or another, we are now expecting the announcement to happen in mid-March, about two weeks later than originally anticipated.
    No, it wasn't my imagination. It's my comprehension.

    And my comprehension skills are just fine.
    [/CENTER]
    Might this just mean:

    There's MORE to Come ? !

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