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    Default Re: Courtney Brown Announcement for February (now March) 2014

    Now that the rush has died down a bit I thought I would post my post which I wrote a while back.

    I have a few thoughts on this process of remote viewing...as is presented in the Farsight system...which I would like to share with you all if I may...because IMO there is a very definite logical error which keeps me from having any real confidence in the conclusions which are made by Mr Brown.

    First...the term 'Remote Viewing' is not an esoteric term, and it does not come up in any of the 'spiritual' philosophies that I have seen. The best term I can come up with which matches the original intention of remote viewing is mind projection...but lets just carry on a while...

    The word 'remote' should tell us something. By remote I would understand it to mean, that what we are attempting to view is remote from our current location, if we are talking relative to our body...and that logically therefore we need to project some part of us to the target in order to gain some information about that target.
    So remote viewing is called remote viewing because the intention of this term was and still is to remotely gain access to information, as in spying on the enemy, for example...an explanation which would fit in well with the intention of say a government or the military...from where the word came I believe.

    So how could this be achieved?

    We can use out of body travel or mind projection...both of these phenomena can fulfil this requirement.

    Now...out of body, or astral, travelling, can be an objective experience in the 'astral' or emotional world...but it has a very big potential flaw...because it is the only world in which we can create anything with the slightest unfocused thoughts in our minds...this can easily lead to bringing back wrong information and or illusions which appear as objective to the unsuspecting, ill trained traveller.

    I also know that mind can be split and we can project our awareness remotely in the mental world. This world is free from the illusion of the emotional world and we see only what we experience. The mental world has no illusions...no feelings.

    It would also be useful now to mention other phenomena like psychometry and telepathy which are overlooked by most and often seen as something which is away from the 'ordinary' person's experience. Little is it known, however, that these 2 phenomena play a major role in our interactions in real life...we just don't pay enough attention to them when they occur.

    Now lets look at what events we can view remotely.

    There is current events and past events...I am not going to deal with future here because there are no fixed or certain future events...even though many probabilities do become true...they are only fixed once they occur. There is also, just to mention it, the fact that moments before we actually do anything we have already thought it. Even a sudden, involuntary movement, which we think is due to our built in nerve system as a protection mechanism is predetermined, by probability...our physical consciousness just cannot realise it.

    So if something exists now in some remote place we can use OB or mind projection to retrieve the information...whereas if the event is in the past and no longer is manifest...it is present only in the immediate memory of a person, who has actually witnessed it...or...in the case of history and no record is present, or person can remember it...is only present in the planetary collective memory...sometimes called akashic records.

    So...I would like to propose that what Courtney is presenting as remote viewing is in fact not remote viewing but past event viewing...and here lies the biggest problem, which I can see, to his claims:

    If it is the case that Courtney, or anyone for that matter, is the one who initiates and comes up with the target. and then it is given to a person to remote view then this process is just a form of psychometry/telepathy.,,and not real remote viewing....these 'remote viewers' are picking up on the thought form created around the target envelope or item or instruction and most certainly not on the historic event. They will therefore be subjected to the initiators ideas and beliefs and not to the actual event.

    Why do I say this?

    Because only people known as 'Causal Selves' can access the dimension of planetary memory, and if these remote viewers were Causal Selves they would know it...and not even need the target to guide them...and they would be as accurate as watching a video of the event. Examples of Causal Beings would be akin to a highly advanced Being and they would not be sitting around dishing out insignificant stories of our history which in reality plays no part in what should be our most immediate goal. Of course a lot of us seem to think that this 'great revelation' which we have just been handed is of some significance...when in fact it is just another distraction...and what do we have?... little tit bits of someone else's beliefs in a though form he/she has created in the emotional or astral world...which is the world of illusion.

    You just have to gather all the many answers we have been given of the exact same thing. All different and each one claiming to be the real thing or the most likely...what are we ...the ignorant...to say about them...which answer do we each choose?...and why?

    So...the entire Farsight process is flawed IMO. These 'remote viewers' are tuning into the original thought form of the target creator and of cause the whole picture that is formed is merely an illusion of the picture in the mind of the person who created the target.

    Let me say, however, that despite what I have concluded, to do what these so called remote viewers are doing...if legit...is in fact a special gift and we should not just throw it aside as meaningless. There are many I have known who have this gift of psychometry and I have seen some pretty accurate readings with this talent...and telepathy, although practised by all unconsciously...will one day be part of normal interaction on the various levels which we use for communicating with our friends etc. I am sure there are many here who have experienced telepathy in some way...especially with close friends and relatives.

    Now if we could present these 'remote viewers' with a piece of the pyramid it would be much more revealing...if the person is actually psychic and not in collusion with the creator of the target for some reason.

    Take care now
    Ray

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    Thank-you, Ray. You have articulated what were my uneducated (in such arts) intuitions far better than I ever could.
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    Default Re: Courtney Brown Announcement for February (now March) 2014

    Just to get back to the issue of RV'ing, why on earth would it take a full year to design the experiment, perform it and interpret the results? He gives the questions that were posed and they were basically, 'pyramids: who, what, why, how'; the two RVers spent a few hours getting their impressions down on paper and then there's the 'interpretation' done by Courtney himself, completely ruining any ability to call the experiment a blind one, but having looked at the material myself, he went from 'that's interesting' to 'this proves something', and from there jumped to 'this changes everything'. What happened was very manipulative of people's time and emotions.

    I also don't understand why the hierarchical (NSA/CIA) model is being used. Why the need for the planner of the targets and then the same person interpreting the results? Can't the RV'ers do this themselves? Why couldn't these people set down with the idea of, say, finding the missing plane themselves, and then announce what they've come up with? Maybe one or even ten such mysteries solved wouldn't be proof of RV being paradigm-changing, but it would certainly be a good start.

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    Finefeather, I really appreciate your input. I would like to know how someone like Edgar Cayce would fit into the picture. Do you think he had access to planetary memory?

    thanks , pam

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    Quote Posted by Finefeather (here)
    So...the entire Farsight process is flawed IMO. These 'remote viewers' are tuning into the original thought form of the target creator and of cause the whole picture that is formed is merely an illusion of the picture in the mind of the person who created the target.
    Thank you Finefeather; this agrees with a conclusion I came to much more laboriously from a different angle (semiotics), notably in connection with an RV experiment to test van Flandern’s exploded planet hypothesis by checking out 3 asteroids.


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    Summarizing the above,[/B] the target object is always to some extent in the mind of the taskmaster, who may or may not be the tasker. The arbitrary conventional sign is like his customary illegible signature – whether he scribbled it himself or his PA used a rubber stamp is immaterial. There is potentially nothing, no target object ‘out there’ between the sender and the receiver. In fact there is no ‘out there’ at all, just the sender/receiver himself – and there being no distance to cover, there is no distortion of the message.
    [snip]
    This does not mean that the transmitted/received content is equatable to some objective truth, merely that the sender and receiver are ‘on the same wavelength’, ‘of like mind’ – have a shared subjectivity.

    Hence the results of the 3 asteroids experiment are mere preaching to the choir. They would only surprise the uninterested mainstream scientist not open to van Flandern’s research and whose gradualist theory does not need testing, i.e. cannot be tested comparatively at this time for want of any serious alternative. Furthermore, for that person, testing through RV makes no sense at all, as the method is equally ‘crazy’. The results will not surprise someone open-minded enough to accept both the alternative astronomy and the reality of RV. Since that is also a description of the RV researcher himself, the mere asking of the question is enough to suggest the answer. But the experiment itself proves nothing beyond the experimenter’s expectations, and the RVers have simply read his mind – unanimously, because there was nothing else to view.

    For the public receiving this RV result positively, it looks like validation of what they already thought. But it is only alternative science validating alternative science. For anyone else, it looks like validation of what they already thought: alternative science is bunkum. Like a lot of science, this research seems to be telling us what we already know.
    [snip] The best and worst that can be said is that the status of the RV material is undecidable: it may be in some sense factual; then again it may be the work of the imagination, or even a malicious deception. We have no way of knowing, and until we do, always supposing that to be possible, ‘scientific remote viewing’ will remain a misnomer, a mere target or task.

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    A last point on this very amusing muppetshow. Was the event, starting with the implication postings a couple of months ago, an honest attempt to share some groundbreaking (inside) information to raise consciousness on a wider scale or was it just another sleek marketing campaign to raise awareness and funding for a personal business? I don’t have the answer, but the announcements of February (March) didn’t live up, not in the slightest, to the promise set by C. Brown beginning this year. Now, let's carry on..


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    Yes, that was a very informative post by Ray. Cayce also popped into my head when I was reading. I've heard of other OOB explorers who in learning about the Akashic Records, or The Library, were met by stewards who would decide if they could go in. Not sure if that's true, but something I read. Anyway..

    This makes me think about RVing in the context of the test where someone would put a piece of paper with some words on it in a room next door and then tell the RV psychic to read the words on the paper. That paper exists in the present, and someone knew it exists and someone wrote the words on it. So, following Ray's assertion, since these viewers are not accessing the akashic memories of the person who set up the sheet of paper, then they are actually checking out that paper as it exists in the present.

    But if someone were to go over and burn the paper into ashes, and then come back and ask that person to view it as it appeared in the recent past, then they couldn't do it. They could only latch onto the residual 4th density thought form of that paper left behind by the person who wrote on it and placed it. If that thought form hasn't lost its energy and evaporated already. That can happen too, can't it?

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    ...until the (Next Big Thing) and what's even (Worse) 99% of you will jump onto the next Big (Announcement/Prediction) and do it all over again
    This is a programmed phenomenon which we humans are subject to. The alternative media is very adept at providing intriguing stories which fall "just outside" the mainstream media, so that it can be placed within a different reference and pitted against the mainstream, and those in the alternative can "feel" like they are on the leading edge.

    The controllers "get this". They don't care what distracts us and entertains us, as long as we don't look inside and see how powerful we are, and continue to remain in the lower frequencies where our energy can be discordant and vampired. That's all they care about.

    So, since I have been here, we have Charles Atticus, Drake, COBRA, and a host of others too numerous to mention, all prognosticators and purveyors of the latest truths.

    There IS NO out there, only inside. What we are looking at is a reflection, a mirror, a hologram of what is inside, distractions from getting to our core internal nature and soul energy, where we can change the manifestation we are creating in the hologram.

    How else can 1% of the inhabitants of this planet control 7 billion people? By feeding us stories, memes, distractions, and ideas that keep us from going within and changing.

    In this regard, this site is no different as jack has pointed out.
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    ...until the (Next Big Thing) and what's even (Worse) 99% of you will jump onto the next Big (Announcement/Prediction) and do it all over again
    This is a programmed phenomenon which we humans are subject to.
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    Thanks for your excellent post, Ray. You’ve perfectly identified my own concerns about Courtney’s methodology: it isn’t truly double-blind. When you have the same person who sets the target conducting the experiment itself it becomes impossible to distinguish true RV – see a distant target – from simple telepathy: read the thoughts of the experimenter.

    A zillion years ago, when I was a volunteer test subject for research conducted under the auspices of the Society For Psychic Research, we used the most rigorous possible academic protocols to blind each step of the RV experiments:

    • The person selecting the targets was unconnected with our group and did so without any knowledge of the purpose of their selections.

    • The targets were then placed in sealed envelopes by another naive person. (God bless freshman psychology students..!)

    • The lead experimenter never saw the opened envelope until after the session was complete.

    • Hits and misses would be scored by another independent observer.

    In other words, every effort was made to eliminate ‘simple’ (to us) telepathy and interpretive bias. But to be fair, at that point our interest was in proving statistically that the RV phenomenon exists at all.

    And yes, “a year” to muddle through any of this does seem a bit......

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    Quote Posted by Finefeather (here)
    ........Let me say, however, that despite what I have concluded, to do what these so called remote viewers are doing...if legit...is in fact a special gift and we should not just throw it aside as meaningless. There are many I have known who have this gift of psychometry and I have seen some pretty accurate readings with this talent...and telepathy, although practised by all unconsciously...will one day be part of normal interaction on the various levels which we use for communicating with our friends etc. I am sure there are many here who have experienced telepathy in some way...especially with close friends and relatives.

    Take care now
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    Wonderful post, Ray, I agree with almost all of what you've said although we may use a few different words to describe things. I draw attention to your comments about telepathy as something I may disagree with or at least fervently HOPE never comes to pass. The idea that we humans in a body at this level would have telepathy as we experience it in astral, mental, causal, etc. planes is horrifying! LOL...

    Occasional flashes of telepathy, which I often experience, are exciting and fun, but how awful would it be to have FULL telepathy and know exactly what everyone was thinking! People would hate each other much more than they do now and we would all KNOW how petty our thoughts and the thoughts of others actually are at almost all times. Lies are a necessity that allow people to more easily work together and they certainly keep many marriages together that would otherwise fail. Telepathy could lead to more fighting, more hate, more wars.

    I admit it would be interesting to see how humanity adapts to telepathy and evolves but it might be filled with many bloody battles and a lot of deaths. IF we developed telepathy we would also have to have huge amounts of empathy and ethics to go along with it. I don't see that happening but of course anything is possible.

    I agree with your assessment of remote viewing and developed this attitude in the early 90's when I was spontaneously having many experiences that might be called remote viewing. Since I had already spent many years leaving my body I knew that this was different since I was aware of being in my body but my consciousness was viewing another scene, place or person. At that time I was very active in a chat room on AOL and several of us were experimenting with remote viewing and telepathy and had some mind blowing experiences over the Internet.

    Apparently we were being watched as I was contacted by someone who wanted me to join a group that would work for the government in a remote viewing project. I thought it might be fun but I knew that it would bore me quite quickly. When you've experienced all the dimensions up to the Source you know that identifying and describing targets for a government would be a very silly game that would lose it's appeal quickly. I think the main reason one would even consider doing that is that it would stroke their ego. Even if I didn't follow through on doing this I have to admit that my ego was somewhat flattered. I always get a good laugh when I find that I continue to have many of the human weaknesses but completely understand that it is a natural state of the body/mind.

    I don't know what Courtney's motives are. Many times we think we are doing good but it turns out to be either irrelevant or perverted into something not so good. After all these years I wonder if Courtney actually still believes that this remote viewing has great relevance or is at all dependable. If he does truly believe that it is relevant then I think his ego has probably gotten the best of him. Of course I don't know Courtney, although I've read about the Farsight Institute since it's inception, so I'm only speculating. I only know that I would come to realize that the past, present, and future are mutable and illusory to a large extent.

    I still haven't figured out the Akashic records and have only been within them one time. It looked and felt like a pulsating, living library with knowledge of all possible pasts, presents and futures of the earth-plane. Not being particularly interested in hanging around earth I left and had no interest in returning. It felt like I was merging with all of it all at once, so returning would also have been redundant. I still don't know why it's there although it felt like it was a natural part of the mechanism of this planet/earth-plane. Perhaps each planet inhabited by soul beings has a similar living library of records. That seems logical but I don't know.
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    A family member had a laptop that he used to go to sites (one of many out there and not any I was familiar with and he hadn't looked through the pictures, either, at the particular sites) that had pictures you could use for slideshow backgrounds or backgrounds for the computer screen. Now he didn't look at what pictures came up at all. Just clicked on the link and did not see what picture came up with the laptop faced away from him. So he had no clue whether it was daisies in a field, boats at a dock, the inside of a library, people walking down a dirt path, or a night sky with stars. No one else looked at them, either.

    I sat in my living room a distance away and opened my mind to "the picture on his laptop screen right now" and reached for it. I did not try to say, "It's exactly this picture of a whatever it is", but instead let shapes, colors, and images flow. I didn't ask guides or anything else in particular to help me, since I didn't want it to be a journey with other help. I didn't ask that no one help, to be fair, but I didn't step back and ask for help as I would for a healing session or journey.

    The first thing I saw was darkness with tiny lights and I felt really cold. It felt/looked to me as if I were standing outside, but I didn't interpret more than I actually felt at that point. I felt/saw that the bottom of the area was almost uncomfortably bright white and the top part was very dark with those tiny lights. I felt the presence of creatures that felt human with perhaps others present, as in companion animals...felt as if they weren't really active like running or jumping. I felt some kind of glow and a little warm from around them, but I was cold, the white was stark and there were little darker areas in it where the creatures' energy was gathered. I felt quiet and peace looking up to the dark top of the scene and quiet stillness from the bottom.

    ______________________

    So I didn't go past that, and I didn't attempt any more interpretation. I just wrote what I experienced in about 15 or so minutes and emailed it to him. I went to his location and he, another family member, and we all read my comments and I brought my drawing of the division of the two parts of the picture and some various scrawls I had made along the way. We read the email I sent him and looked at the drawings, and we turned the screen around to see if anything matched. The entire process from start to finish took about 30 minutes.

    The picture was a beautiful, crisp night sky with bright, tiny stars shining over a few snow-covered small huts or houses set in a field of deep snow with a bit of glow from what looked like small fireplaces inside and bright snowy reflection from the flash. The screen was basically divided into two sections horizontally as I drew and said, there were people in the houses or there wouldn't have been fires in the fireplaces, and they weren't out running or jumping around since there weren't prints in the snow. The file was I believe labeled that it was Inuit village or something similar, but no title was on the screen.

    So someone obviously did see the picture when taking it and uploading it, but no one knew who was present to set it up which of the set of pictures came up or which picture was on the screen, so I didn't get it from his mind. (just a note..no one will play Battleship with me because I see their ship arrangement in my head and it spoils the game, so that was a concern and we wanted it double blind) We did this with 4 or 5 pictures and as long as I didn't state outright it was a picture of something I was pretty much on target. When I just said it once to see what happened I had the right ideas but misinterpreted what I saw.

    Anyway, I didn't post this to show I am good or whatever, and please feel free to pick the technique apart and tell me if you see where I got the info that wasn't from the screen. I posted it just to say that I think that while we can do a present day target and many people can do pretty well, that the only way to get results that are valid doesn't have to be taking a year and so forth, and that I do know we have many more senses than we are taught as kids. This isn't magic or bizarre, but knowing it was accurate back when pyramids were built to me is a different matter, as others have said. Was what they saw skewed by so many humans thinking aliens did it or Courtney knowing the target or was it exactly as they saw? I have no idea, but me seeing that picture or what I experience when I do distance healing work isn't going to sway science at this point and I know that. I can't prove something that no one can verify, I guess is what I'm saying. I just posted my little free and simple home RV fun to say it's possible to get good results in more than one way. As I said, please feel free to break down my test errors...I have nothing to prove and doesn't bother me a bit
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    Finefeather, I really appreciate your input. I would like to know how someone like Edgar Cayce would fit into the picture. Do you think he had access to planetary memory?

    thanks , pam
    Dear Pam
    A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since I delved into the Edgar Cayce writings so please correct me if I am wrong

    He was known as the sleeping prophet and this may be because some other Self was doing the prophesy and he was just the medium, the same as the Ra stuff.
    If this was a case of genuine higher realm communication then it is unlikely that he himself was a Causal Self, because if he was he would not need to fall asleep to access planetary memory.
    Having said that...the information which came through him might have been...but I have not studied his information enough to make a comment about his accuracy or his consciousness level.

    There are genuine mediums and then there are those who think they are.

    In my experience, most genuine truth comes from real living incarnated Selfs who are often unknown to the general public and their entire life is prepared and dedicated to give out truth.
    Unfortunately a large amount of this truth has fallen into the hands of those who have turned them into the many works of fiction we see in the world today.
    There are more genuine highly evolved Selves on earth than you might suspect...but their work does not always 'resonate' with the masses because of the intense amount of indoctrination we have been subjected to.
    There are many who think they have the truth in their hands and are convinced of their own wisdom...but we are collectively still far from the real reality.

    On the brighter side, there are, fortunately, present at this time, a great band of servers who are incarnating from other worlds, as well as our more advanced human brothers, whose purpose it is to draw our attention more and more to the truth of the brotherhood of man and the necessity for unconditional love amongst us.

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    An experiment I'd like to see, similar in intent to what Synchronicity reports above, would be a variation of the Schrodinger cat experiment.

    Inside a box sealed from all sorts of electromagnetic fields put a random number hardware generator and computer technology, running off a timer and battery. Have it select between some visually distinct alternatives.

    Then have the viewer say which alternative was selected, and open the box to see what the actual selection was. The alternatives could even be from a small (say 16) set of visually distinct choices, and this set of choices could even be well known to the viewer prior to the test runs. A success rate better than random would be easily detected.

    Another possibly interesting variable in the test would be which electromagnetic frequencies were filtered by the box -- all or all but some pass through band.
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    I really appreciate the deep thoughts and analysis of the whole concept of RVing, but I don't understand why it's needed to determine absolute, irrefutable proof or not. I just listened to a few interviews with Ed Dames on Coast to Coast. He said, with 100% certitude that such and such would happen, and it didn't. That's pretty simple and pretty conclusive.

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    I really appreciate the deep thoughts and analysis of the whole concept of RVing, but I don't understand why it's needed to determine absolute, irrefutable proof or not. I just listened to a few interviews with Ed Dames on Coast to Coast. He said, with 100% certitude that such and such would happen, and it didn't. That's pretty simple and pretty conclusive.
    Well, it's conclusive that not all RV claims are 100% valid.

    It's a far cry from that to concluding that no RV claims are valid.
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    Nicely done, Synchronicity and Nancy V.

    Your methodologies were great. And you both clicked into two key factors: enthusiasm for experimenting, and getting feedback to your ideas. Both are indispensable for good results. "What the heck" and "just try it" - in other words, not putting any performance pressure on yourselves - has been shown to give better results overall.

    And the opportunity to check out your results - to match your impressions to the actual target is one of the most important tools for learning how your own inner landscape works and improving your performance. Some people are more visual, some twig to smells, sounds, tactile sensations. Learning more about yourself is the key to developing your own psychic skills. As always: Inquire Within.

    Great to hear from you.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    An experiment I'd like to see, similar in intent to what Synchronicity reports above, would be a variation of the Schrodinger cat experiment.

    Inside a box sealed from all sorts of electromagnetic fields put a random number hardware generator and computer technology, running off a timer and battery. Have it select between some visually distinct alternatives.

    Then have the viewer say which alternative was selected, and open the box to see what the actual selection was. The alternatives could even be from a small (say 16) set of visually distinct choices, and this set of choices could even be well known to the viewer prior to the test runs. A success rate better than random would be easily detected.

    Another possibly interesting variable in the test would be which electromagnetic frequencies were filtered by the box -- all or all but some pass through band.
    There have been variations of this protocol done over the years, at Princeton if memory serves, including some that identified random number targets before the target had been generated. These are somewhere in the classic literature, but I don't recall the text at the moment.

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    We also did a few with a random number generator program on the laptop with my hands over it with energy flowing through my hands with numbers not being seen on the screen, time marked when I felt specific energy flowing, just had my hands over it without anything but my own human flow, and without hands. We did that several times and each time you could see when I put my hands over the laptop (it matched the timing an observer noted each exact time), when I asked energy to flow, and when I pulled my hands away that the numbers skewed one way when I pulled away and one when I asked for the energy, and then when I just held my hands there it was a slight difference, but it was there. We did that several times and it matched each time. I'm not saying whatever that proved, if anything, but each time the numbers went the same way for each action. It was fun and interesting to see. But again, I'm not presenting it to prove anything and thought it was interesting since people feel where energy workers' hands are many times when they aren't touching and near the body, and many feel the exact shape of how I'm moving my hands (not just me...happens with others as well) even face down and not knowing if I'm standing still or having hands over them except for the feeling. It made me wonder and we tried it with the laptop. The universe is so full of amazing things to explore!

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    Quote Posted by Snowflower (here)
    I really appreciate the deep thoughts and analysis of the whole concept of RVing, but I don't understand why it's needed to determine absolute, irrefutable proof or not. I just listened to a few interviews with Ed Dames on Coast to Coast. He said, with 100% certitude that such and such would happen, and it didn't. That's pretty simple and pretty conclusive.
    That doesn't disprove anything but that he was right, though. I can't pole vault at this point in my life, but there are wonderful pole vaulters who can do it, so it is possible. Hey, I never could pole vault...this time in my life? Never, I would say It seems to me the problem isn't so much that this technique or that idea is or isn't possible in most areas of study or exploration. It's when statements are made about something being true or working all of the time or none of it. Saying something is impossible or always true is just asking to be discounted or disproved. I think it's easy to start thinking (general observation and not related to anything in particular here) that our way is the 100% right way or only way, and then the ego takes over and logical thinking tends to stop working well.

    Also, making public comments on controversial or unproven subjects is always risky to the speaker's credibility, so the consideration of the psychology of the situation and how best to present it really helps. It's easy to seem to be a kook or arrogant when those "always", "never", "impossible", and "only my way" statements go on record, and it's easy to fall prey to that disconnect between audience and perception of the motive and method when we get passionate and focused (or obsessed) with something. The challenge, I think, is to find the balance between passion and reason. I think from all the threads on so many forums, much less the actual speakers discussing so many theories and advocates, debunkers, and ways of looking at the universe, it's fairly easily demonstrated that this balance isn't always easy to find.

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