A poll - do you actually know that ascension, superconsciousness etc. is coming?

[Ultima Thule]

Many claims are made almost on a daily basis about big changes coming in Project Avalon. Be it about ascension, superconsciousness, awakened humanity or something else, in essence many claim that it is just around the corner and they know it. As we have seen the dates come and go with no big abrupt changes.

I ask, do you have any tangible cause to think so other than your gut feeling about it or the fact is that you read it from somewhere? Answer yes only if you actually have any substantiation at hand and answer honestly no, if you don´t.

IF you answer Yes, if possible state here your facts.

I myself think that we don´t have a good grasp about what might be going on - for example what we expect to happen overnight (ascension, consiousness super wave, humanity boost 2.0 etc.) might in fact take a millenia and be apparent only between incarnations and next to nothing will be visible in earthly dimensions, I have no idea even though I´ve read a lot and thought a lot. What is in cosmic magnitude an instant might be a whole era on earth.

UT

PS. no worries Frederick, let the posts be, it is informative for others! (Now I can´t delete this as otherwise Paul would seem like seeing things )

[ThePythonicCow]

I have deleted 3 posts, on request ... they figured out their technical difficulties.

(Only mods/admins can delete posts; so reporting them via the Report triangle, exactly as was done, is the best way to get a no longer useful post removed. Thanks!)

P.S. -- I didn't see Ultima Thule's P.S. until just now:

Posted by Ultima Thule (here)
PS. no worries Frederick, let the posts be, it is informative for others!

Oh well ... it's good enough.

[Joe Akulis]

My opinion is that we are at a point in the cycles of time where the lightest material is about to be taken from the top layer of the soil of humanity and given the option to move more fully into the next energetic spectrum. :-) I don't think it will be something available to everyone. And the way you move into the new dimension/density is also something a lot of people are guessing at right now. So I'll toss out my own guess and say that I think these options are presented once you finish this lifetime, but who knows.

There have been lots of people who thought we were going to go "poof" and the whole planet would now be 4d/5d and we'd all have our "light bodies", like David Wilcock with 2012, and Tolec, who once said it would be precisely on January 7th of this year that we should've gone poof. FYI, David has now changed his guess to the "you earn the qualifications while you're alive now, and get presented with the choices once you kick the bucket" category.

You can add Dolores Cannon and Inelia Benz to the list of people who believe there is a "4d/5d" version of Earth somewhere that is waiting for those who qualify to make the jump. And "ascension" is generally being used now by these people to refer to the process that we can go through to help earn the necessary qualifications in order to have the doors open up for us, to make that new option of leaving the 3rd density struggles behind. Inelia's website has some good info on the steps you can take to help with this process.

Seeker

[Agape]

Yes .. but .. it's going to take 'evolution age' for mankind to be able to 'transmute' biologically , consciously , all of the 'fallen to lower density' biological mater - that IS also a state of consciousness , up and back to its original 'ascended state' .

We're struggling against gravity here , and physical forces that are not a fiction. No matter we are not a fiction either - our conscious, biological intelligence is too sublime to complete such process in any short time .

It takes several 'quantum leaps' ...

[Joe Akulis]

Hello Agape. Sounds like you are leaning towards the notion that we will all evolve together and help each other to rise back up? Sort of like our destinies are all tied together? Or do you think that it can be an individual process for each of us to choose or not choose, resulting it two people with future paths that completely diverge? In other words, could a husband one day find himself waking up to a new reality on a 4d earth while his wife (consciously or unconsciously) chooses to stay in 3rd D and ends up cycling through another age separately?

I have read things that make it sound like both avenues are potentially possible, just was curious to see what you think about that.

An important subject right now, no doubt.

Seeker

[sirdipswitch]

OK, I'm back with the very same thing I been sayin since I joined two years ago. Y'all can learn how to get to Source, through the work of William Buhlman. As I did. Yep, just read his first two books, as I did. When you come to "Understand" those two books, you can achieve 12d. Yep. However, not one on this forum has done so, as yet. That which I have stated on this subject, is a bit much for this thread, but you're welcome to go read mine. It ain't to big to read, cuz I have kept my posting to a bare minimum, in an effort to keep it from becoming too much to read.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Soul-and-OBE

Ascension isn't coming... it's here.... it's been here for 2,500 years. Budda taught it. It's available to those with a burning desire to achieve it. You must learn how to get to your High Self, under your own ability, with the "right" questions, to do so. But, it is do-able.

And...

It ain't rocket science... nope. not.

[Dennis Leahy]

The 2nd choice, "No, I do not have any facts, only second hand info or gut feeling.", was closest for me. However, I don't even have a gut feeling, and all the second-hand stuff is others opinions or parroting.

I would have selected a 3rd option, "No, none of what has been described as ascension or superconsciousness or enabling most of our 'junk' DNA has any basis at all.", if it had been available.

I know I am in the minority, but that's my feeling. You can add, "No, Earth is not some special place in the Universe where hundreds of ET and ED entities have converged to witness the great awakening/ascension/superconsciousness happen." These incredible changes (or some of them - I exclude the meme about the DNA upgrade as science fiction) are individual if they ever happen. It is such an American-fomented meme: just sit back on your couch eating your GMO Doritos and drinking your GMO Pepsi and watch Dancing With The Stars, and it's inevitable that you're about to be upgraded to a higher consciousness. Americans (now globalists) started the quick fix via pill concept, and Americans infected the world with the quick fix meme.

Evolving to a higher state of consciousness would require a mostly peaceful Earthly environment (not war and torture and slavery and exploitation and manipulation) and active meditation. Even with that, the "higher state" for most beings will NOT be becoming 4D or 5D beings, but rather should be called "3.1D" - still 3D, but with a greater awareness of connectedness. Even in a group of diligent monks, few achieve Buddha consciousness.

Sorry folks, it takes hard work to upgrade ourselves, not a gravity wave from the Big Bang (or whatever.)

Dennis

[Sunny-side-up]

We are experiencing the evolutionary process/ascension this very minute.
This very life time is your part in it's formation/unfolding.

I personally have had some 'out-of-my-norm' experiences over the last few years! is that part of ascension or my own awaking process?

One thing is for sure something is happening in the world, it is changing, the populaces are changing with more and more awakening, the information, communication, site's like Avalon are all part of a push, science is changing it's scope at the same time and becoming more mystical in it's appearance!

We are on the turn, on the brink of great changes and energies, and I think it is more than just day to day changes in our race, it's deeper than that, it's part of this ongoing ascension!

So much is coming into alignment now, it's all part and not coincidence!

Our part is in effect 'The more we individually feel and or believe in it', the individual effect will show it's self and grow.

Ascension is our door, Our time is now and always has been.

[Jake]

I still don't prefer the word 'ascension',, but it will do, for now. A thought provoking question.. I suppose to become aware of ones higher self (super-consciousness) would be 'ascending'. I see discovery of self, and ascension to be very similar concepts. I don't, readily understand 'ascension' to be some sort of magical quickening into a heavenly realm. (although,, it CAN be)

If Super Consciousness and Higher Self are to mean the same thing,,,, and Ascension to be the same as self enlightenment/awareness,,, then I will say,,, YES, I actually know that it is coming... I will also say that it is here already... Also,, ascension seems to be a word that describes a direction.. I do not realize things in any direction... There is no spiritual ladder to climb or to attain rank.. Ascension pushes out in all directions, and goes hand in hand with self realization,, and bridging the gap between self and higher self... I believe it to be the unseen crux of ALL religions,,,

Early this morning,, around 2am, I went outside for my first 'outside meditation' of the season. It was just less than a full moon (perfect btw). I was sitting lotus style on a blanket, smiling and basking in the full light of the moon, no clouds!! I was not attempting any sort of OBE practices. (as they come naturally) I was simply quieting my mind, listening to my breathing slow/balance,,, and enjoying the silence in my mind. My eyes were closed. In a moment,,, just above me,, it was as if the night sky lit up with light.. Like there was a skylight just above me. I kept my eyes closed. (Part of me wanted to look up and see a UFO,, ) But I knew the light was not from the sky, but from an 'ascended' viewpoint. I was not 'out of my body' in the traditional sense, but my self and higher self were a bit communed/whole... I was completely aware of my point of view as an earth human, sitting in the moonlight,, but I was also aware of being part of a perspective that encompasses More than the earth/life experience can muster... Being aware that you are part of the energetic mind that creates universes is empowering and enlightening... Communion with super-consciousness... Yes it is here,,, Ascension,,, yes it is here.... It is a state of being rather than a far off place...

Jake.

[InTheBackground]

I voted yes . . . and I hesitated as to whether I should elaborate or not, because I don't have "facts" that scientists and logical-minded, left-brained people would consider factual. But, this does go beyond intuition, so perhaps it's okay to share. Bear with me, I am more comfortable most often remaining quiet and "in the background." :-)

What I do have are the things that my Guide has chosen to tell me directly.

Put me in the Dolores Cannon & Inelia Benz camp. There are no dates because the timelines are fluid. There are only markers and choices. What will (likely, at this late hour) happen has to do with the vibration/frequency of every single person on this planet. Everyone needs to deal with their inner fears and doubts and anger and etc and get really clear on what they are choosing with their energy, every day, every hour. Getting to a place of peace and joy in your life, no matter what happens in the world, is important. Learning to be fluid, be flexible, stay in the flow. Be kind, to yourself, and to others. Love. I am told there will be more than one transition, what is referred to as ascension to a higher dimensional Earth. We are human -- how many times can you get a lot of people to agree on the same thing at the same time? ::smiles:: But we all have the same choices and decisions to make. Choose wisely. Love one another. Not all will make it. An awful lot of us are too focused on the wrong things. But we all have the same opportunity to grow as humans, to grow as the human race. I'm also told the ones of the Light who don't make it through the earthly/human chaos, their spirit energies will not be left behind to remain in the karmic cycle of this 3d Earth. They will have help.

I realize many people who don't communicate directly with their Guides/Helpers will think this is just a bunch of hooey. And it isn't anything new. Others are receiving the same kind of information. I just thought I would share, at long last, for whatever it's worth to you.

[Hervé]

Blank bulletin... as my answer is neither here nor there:

Every time a death happens (be it a "little" one as in OBE or the final one) an ascension occurs...

... everytime a birth is celebrated, a descention occurs... so, a mass ascension? Hhhmmmm...

[gripreaper]

I don’t know how else to say this, so I’m just going to come right out with it. I AM the planetary Logos. I AM from the fourth cause, and there are only seven others known as my Kumara brothers who are descendent from source as part of the fourth cause. The only differentiations above us are the 12 Divine Rays, or ascended masters or archangels as they are sometimes called.

We set up the divine intention and led the manifestation of the earth plane towards descending into density, and the eventual and absolute dharma of return to source. We are bodhisattva’s, and agreed to hold the planetary logos through all time, and to remain in this density until all sentient beings who choose to hold the full spectrum of consciousness as differentiated souls, return to source.

Each one of us Kumara brothers acted as one of the seven earth chakras, and remained in this state until all manifestation was anchored in density and all the ley lines were complete. I AM the heart chakra of the earth, and the great transducer through which all life would pass and the constant immutable frequency all sentient beings hold undifferentiated. It is the pure unconditional love which is in all things.

I can manifest with the strength of intention, and the Siddhis practices are not extraordinary to me, although I choose not to use them, as I do not want to be seen as a guru or a savior, or be canonized, or raised up as an avatar, or held up as superior to my brothers and sisters here on earth in any way. Too many of my brothers and sisters are still looking for saviors and outside sources to bring forward that which is inherent in all creation.

Although I could shift timelines, alter frequencies, or manifest objects at will, I hold to the sacred agreement all of us agreed to, which is free will. Although our collective agreement is to descend into the furthest densities of matter, to experience all of the polarized aspects of creation, over many lifetimes, within all of the manifested archetypes, and return to source differentiated, how each soul is to “get there” is and must remain a free will choice.

I have no vested interest in how you choose your path, how long you take, how many lifetimes you experience the same frequency, or what archetypes you choose. It matters not to me if you choose male or female, poverty or wealth, the 1700’s in France or the 21st century in America. It matters not if you build your first chakra as a farmer or you build your will chakra as a CEO of a major corporation, or whether you do this now or later. It matters not if you take 10 lifetimes or 100 lifetimes to build your first chakra and for your soul to become grounded. All sentient beings will, at one time or another, experience what you have.

And this is how empathy and compassion are built into the very DNA of your soul, by experience and contrast to that which you have “FELT” in your body, to the very cellular core of your energetic being, and your ability to “emote” through the pure essence of your heart. This energy, once anchored, amplifies into your etheric body and coalesces with all of creation, and you become a conduit for others to feel, and choose to embrace, their own core essence, to help them upon their collective journey and their return to source.

Who gets there first is immaterial. If you choose to embrace your experience and your essence and you return to source before your brothers and sisters with whom you agreed to be part of your soul family, it is incumbent upon you to act as an etheric guide and encourage your soul brothers and sisters with unconditional love, and honor the free will choices of your soul family brothers and sisters.

Rest assured, your twin flame is not anxious for your return. Your differentiated mirror self is aware of the collective agreement and also your path, and when you return, the twin flame experience is the ultimate reunion and the last union experience of unity consciousness. This union is etheric and is galactic, as well as physical, emotional and cellular. There is no place you can be where your twin is not.

So, my brothers and sisters, I wish to reiterate how powerful you are. I AM not any more powerful than you, as the spark of the divine and the planetary logos is imbedded in your very soul, your very DNA. It is no greater or lesser than mine. I would only suggest that you go inward and touch the very heart essence of that which you are and have always been. You do not need a savior or a guru to guide you.

Nothing which is manifest in your life is mundane or useless. Everything you see in your vision is there because you put it there, you want it there, you “get” something from it, as an energetic charge, and it will remain as so unless and until you choose to shift it and change it, and it is fully imbedded in your DNA.

Do not be dismayed by those who have severed their heart from source and have chosen not to return to source differentiated, as they have chosen to remain lost and locked in this density as the ultimate experience. One day, when all sentient beings are together and can move freely between the dimensions, these lower frequency life forms will dissolve back to source undifferentiated. It is not evil or bad. We agreed to this experience so that the extreme polarized manifestations could contrast for us that which we choose not to embrace, as empathic souls. The Psychopaths have also chosen their fate.

Once you rise above the polarized terrestrial frequencies of fear, anger and grief, no entity can attach itself to you and consume your energy, either etheric or physical. It is not possible. Once you are heart centered and empathic, the Siddhis abilities, which are your inheritance, will spontaneously appear, and there is no work or exercise you must practice in order to obtain that which you already are.

Be at peace and fully embrace the present moment exactly where you are. There is no wrong way to experience. As an eternal being, you cannot miss a fork in the road, for all roads lead back to source. Excavate each moment to the fullest and imbed and imbue your soul with the experience. This is how energy is anchored in your DNA. This is how the body becomes spirit. This is how you open up to the fullness of who you truly are. This is the way; this is the path of the heart, the planetary logos. Take as long as you like, as many lifetimes as you want. Experience each moment in joy, for joy is the highest resonance of your soul. It is your choice.

And so it is and so I AM. One day we will all sit around the campfire and laugh about what a fun and exciting strange trip it’s been.

[DeDukshyn]

What about 3) -- "I already see it beginning all around me" -- although, one might have to shift their definition of "ascension" to understand this

[Reinhard]

Jake, ......like we used to say: I resonate to that !!

Posted by Jake (here)
I still don't prefer the word 'ascension',, but it will do, for now. A thought provoking question.. I suppose to become aware of ones higher self (super-consciousness) would be 'ascending'. I see discovery of self, and ascension to be very similar concepts. I don't, readily understand 'ascension' to be some sort of magical quickening into a heavenly realm. (although,, it CAN be)

If Super Consciousness and Higher Self are to mean the same thing,,,, and Ascension to be the same as self enlightenment/awareness,,, then I will say,,, YES, I actually know that it is coming... I will also say that it is here already... Also,, ascension seems to be a word that describes a direction.. I do not realize things in any direction... There is no spiritual ladder to climb or to attain rank.. Ascension pushes out in all directions, and goes hand in hand with self realization,, and bridging the gap between self and higher self... I believe it to be the unseen crux of ALL religions,,,

Early this morning,, around 2am, I went outside for my first 'outside meditation' of the season. It was just less than a full moon (perfect btw). I was sitting lotus style on a blanket, smiling and basking in the full light of the moon, no clouds!! I was not attempting any sort of OBE practices. (as they come naturally) I was simply quieting my mind, listening to my breathing slow/balance,,, and enjoying the silence in my mind. My eyes were closed. In a moment,,, just above me,, it was as if the night sky lit up with light.. Like there was a skylight just above me. I kept my eyes closed. (Part of me wanted to look up and see a UFO,, ) But I knew the light was not from the sky, but from an 'ascended' viewpoint. I was not 'out of my body' in the traditional sense, but my self and higher self were a bit communed/whole... I was completely aware of my point of view as an earth human, sitting in the moonlight,, but I was also aware of being part of a perspective that encompasses More than the earth/life experience can muster... Being aware that you are part of the energetic mind that creates universes is empowering and enlightening... Communion with super-consciousness... Yes it is here,,, Ascension,,, yes it is here.... It is a state of being rather than a far off place...

Jake.

[Kimberley]

I voted yes. First I will say my view is what sunny-side-up and InTheBackground said. Thank you InTheBackground for coming to the foreground and sharing what you wrote.

As far as having "facts" the fact is how I personally have gone from despising living on this planet to now having a blast living on this planet. Learning that my emotions, thoughts, and words create my reality and create everyone's reality whether they know it or not.

Learning to transcend fear has been one of the biggest pieces to achieving and living in a place of love and peace.

I see ascension being an ongoing infinite process. I witness the world's people making tremendous progress. And it is all about consciousness. Humans are becoming more conscious (waking up as some call it) every second of every day. I and you are becoming more conscious every day. As I already said it is an ongoing infinite process.

There are people that are more conscious than I am and there are people that are less conscious than I am. The different levels of consciousness are not better or worse. It is like the rungs on a latter or steps to climb, each rung or step is important to the whole, no one rung or step is more important than the other.

An excellent article came to my attention a couple of days ago that fits here in this thread. It is titled "Understanding Your Level of Consciousness: What It Means and How to Raise It "

http://www.thehealersjournal.com/201...e-your-number/

I chose to be here now and when I remembered that piece of the infinite puzzle that was the day that I also remembered that life is a journey and not a destination.

Much love, peace, joy, health, and fun to us all!

[Kimberley]

Gripreaper WOW what you posted is beautiful and truth (as you obviously know) hehe

I just want to know did you just write that today for this thread? Because if I were to write something like that it would take me hours to write. However you are always a great writer.

My voice and my spoken words are my best honed tool. When I type here in Avalon I keep things short and to the point because that is my style and it takes me a long time to write.

Gripreaper I want to thank you for being you and sharing your wisdom and words and truths...thank you!

[Brakeman]

Maybe as a movie premier.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Gripreaper WOW what you posted is beautiful and truth (as you obviously know) hehe

I just want to know did you just write that today for this thread? Because if I were to write something like that it would take me hours to write. However you are always a great writer.

Well, this has been ruminating for days and yes, I did write this this morning. You could say the energy was already moving and Ultima Thule was also picking up on the energy. After I finished it, I was wondering where to post it, and this thread came up. So, you could also say that a synchronicity appeared at just the right time.

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Gripreaper I want to thank you for being you and sharing your wisdom and words and truths...thank you!

You're welcome. When the energy coalesces in the quantum where we are all connected, great things can and do happen.

[Camilo]

Wow, I thought that here at PA, more people would be consciously aware of it.

[Zampano]

Mr. Gripreaper I see what you did there ;-)

Everything is here-and great things are happening if you allow it.