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    Quote Posted by swoods_blue (here)
    Interesting grist for the mill here...

    A blogger named Keith Ledgerwood posted a theory about the disappearance:

    http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/po...ing-sia68-sq68

    His contention is that MA370 could have hidden in the radar shadow of another 777 through India/Pakistan. I have no idea if that's reasonable, but he seems to know a lot of technical info.

    One thing interesting here is that this is the ONLY post on this Tumblr account. There are no other posts, no "About me", no background, details, nothing. Just this Tumblr, with one post. And there are HUNDREDS of retweets, repostings, etc. It's really making the rounds. There is a Keith Ledgerwood on Twitter (https://twitter.com/keithledgerwood), who says he posted the blog item, and he has 240 followers and 47 tweets (half of them about this topic, and half from 2011). His twitter feed reveals odd details, like his old cell phone # (not smart) and the fact that he was the cousin of Will Norton, a Joplin teenager killed when he was sucked out of the sunroof of his Hummer in the tornadoes of May 2011 (ref: http://www.newser.com/story/119665/w...ound-dead.html)

    So what is this? A sincere effort to explain something odd with less-than-scifi technology, or some sort of cointelpro trial balloon? I think it's the former, but it seems like he's spitballing to me. Less exotic than Joseph Farrell's explanation, but he may be onto somthing.

    Did it strike anyone already how all these people are somehow called "Wood"?

    - Philip Wood
    - Bob Woodruff
    - Keith Ledgerwood

    I mean...maybe it's a coïncidence, or maybe the plane is in the woods.

    Just something I noticed.
    or maybe, you know the saying
    "we can't see the wood for the trees"

    meaning
    if someone can't see the wood for the trees, they are unable to understand what is important in a situation because they are giving too much attention to details After you've spent years researching a single topic you get to a point where you can't see the wood for the trees.
    See also: see, tree, wood
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    “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular.” (Carl Jung)

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    http://www.xpeditionstv.com/11/index.html
    Michio Kaku is a mainstream physicist – mainstream enough to be seen as many to be a government shill. But that by no means disqualifies what I have to say, rather the contrary. Starting at 15:18 in this video, he explains how black holes are one-way gateways or portals to another universe, but how in the 1980s scientists discovered the existence of ‘transversable wormholes’, like Alice’s looking-glass, through which one might come and go freely between universes. What Kaku calls Type 3 civilizations would have the technology to ‘drill holes in spacetime’ in this manner.

    Clearly if any Type 3 civilization can ever operate in such a way on spacetime, it can do it now. And it can do it here. This video, The Stargate of Aramu Muru, is about one location on Earth accessible to the general public where this might be happening, where people vanish, and come back to tell the tale. Richard Gabriel started a thread on this subject a while back, unfortunately it never got going.

    You can have even natural mini black holes .. though they're super-rare ..

    http://www.livescience.com/27811-cre...ack-holes.html

    Quote Creating microscopic black holes using particle accelerators requires less energy than previously thought, researchers say.

    If physicists do succeed in creating black holes with such energies on Earth, the achievement could prove the existence of extra dimensions in the universe, physicists noted.

    Any such black holes would pose no risk to Earth, however, scientists added.

    Black holes possess gravitational fields so powerful that nothing can escape, not even light. The holes normally form when the remains of a dead star collapse under their own gravity, squeezing their mass together.

    A number of theories about the universe suggest the existence of extra dimensions of reality, each folded up into sizes ranging from as tiny as a proton to as big as a fraction of a millimeter. At distances comparable to the sizes of these extra dimensions, these models suggest gravity may become far stronger than normal. As such, atom smashers could cram enough energy together to generate black holes. [5 Reasons We May Live in a Multiverse]

    When the most powerful particle accelerator in the world, the Large Hadron Collider, was coming online, scientists wondered if it might become a "black hole factory," generating a black hole as often as every second. Particles zip at high speeds around the 17-mile (27 kilometer) circular atom smasher before colliding into one another to create explosive energies. At its maximum, each particle beam the collider fires packs as much energy as a 400-ton train traveling at about 120 mph (195 km/h).
    Here the talk is about 'how to create one' but yes sure , interaction between two distinct dimensions of hyperspace can create space-time distortion effect .

    Hypothetically .. and I'm not limiting the idea to one of 'black hole' but if someone ( from other point of the Universe ) projects their version of condensed particle accelerator to Space , beam us with array of what they'd only find as 'exotic particles' after analysing the event here ,
    they can create 'time-space event' . Had been at one personally in Bodhgaya 2002 that's why I find this upsetting , I guess .

    Events 'such as this' though super-rare , did occur through out human history .. however unbelievable .. not all is explainable by way of 'simply 3D human logic' ,
    the Universe IS much vaster, more colourful, more powerful and it has ..Life ..


    It feels highly disturbing ... but you have numerous legends of old nations about people , things , even whole cities sometimes 'vanished' .

    In fact , should it have happened in this case , the plane could be flying in 'alternative space-time dimension' around Earth for a year without anyone being able to figure out where is it or what 's happened .. and once the 'space-time distortion effect' is over ( they tend to have timeline of their own .. ) it might find itself at any place around the Earth or if they're lucky enough but that's more in jest , 'continue on the way to Beijing with fresh mangosteens' .
    In the 'alternative space-time' , their time would not change .. they may not notice if they flew an hour or two more .



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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Hypothetically .. and I'm not limiting the idea to one of 'black hole' but if someone ( from other point of the Universe ) projects their version of condensed particle accelerator to Space , beam us with array of what they'd only find as 'exotic particles' after analysing the event here ,
    they can create 'time-space event' . Had been at one personally in Bodhgaya 2002 that's why I find this upsetting , I guess .

    Events 'such as this' though super-rare , did occur through out human history .. however unbelievable .. not all is explainable by way of 'simply 3D human logic' ,
    the Universe IS much vaster, more colourful, more powerful and it has ..Life ..


    It feels highly disturbing ... but you have numerous legends of old nations about people , things , even whole cities sometimes 'vanished' .

    In fact , should it have happened in this case , the plane could be flying in 'alternative space-time dimension' around Earth for a year without anyone being able to figure out where is it or what 's happened .. and once the 'space-time distortion effect' is over ( they tend to have timeline of their own .. ) it might find itself at any place around the Earth or if they're lucky enough but that's more in jest , 'continue on the way to Beijing with fresh mangosteens' .
    In the 'alternative space-time' , their time would not change .. they may not notice if they flew an hour or two more .


    Thanks Angel

    Your 'jest' is like Joseph Farrell's careful distancing from his own idea. Maybe we should be more serious about getting those fresh mangosteens to Beijing (and of course the passengers). It would make sense to carry such a fragile cargo if it were to demonstrate how weeks of earth time can pass while the ultimate in perishable goods stayed fresh.

    I was not jesting when I made my post 440:

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    ...

    It may be that for it to collapse back into our macro-reality, it needs us the collective observer to decide, want, visualize, hope and pray for, simply expect, all of the above, what is to happen next. What that is will be for the highest good, because that is what the majority desire, and because that is the way of the universe; and this will likely involve the passengers and crew turning up somewhere safe and sound in such a way as to demonstrate this fact and confound those who would have us believe otherwise.

    Somewhere safe and sound may simply be taking up where they left off x days afterwards. Instead of missing time, it would be the whole world that has experienced added time, the mother of all timeouts
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    Quote Posted by swoods_blue (here)
    Keith Ledgerwood posted a theory about the disappearance [...] So what is this? A sincere effort to explain something odd with less-than-scifi technology, or some sort of cointelpro trial balloon?
    We asked Michael G. Fortune, a retired pilot who now works as an aviation consultant and expert witness, if that would be possible. After a lengthy pause, he gave us a skeptical "maybe." It would depend on what kind of radar equipment the Singapore 777 had on board, he said, and would require some serious aviation skill to find and stay behind the plane.

    Doug Moss, a former test pilot and aircraft accident investigator, was unconvinced. “It sounds totally crazy,” he told us, adding, “I see where the guy is coming from.” It’s possible in theory, he said. Large military planes can fly in formation, and there’s no reason one 777 couldn’t closely follow another.

    “The hard part in practicality is, how’s the guy gonna find another aeroplane,” and especially a specific plane, headed to the right part of the world? Moss asked.

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/pi...ard-yet-2014-3
    buares,

    Thanks for the link to that article. What it suggests is that A) This thesis represents a very difficult way to hide an airplane and B) Despite Moss' comment that it "sounds totally crazy," he doesn't think it actually sounds totally crazy -- just unlikely.

    However, we are certainly already in the realm of the "unlikely" when discussing the disappearance of a modern airliner with 220+ souls aboard.

    Whatever happened was unlikely to happen, pretty much by definition.

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    Quote Posted by Violet (here)
    Quote Posted by swoods_blue (here)
    Interesting grist for the mill here...

    A blogger named Keith Ledgerwood posted a theory about the disappearance:

    http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/po...ing-sia68-sq68

    His contention is that MA370 could have hidden in the radar shadow of another 777 through India/Pakistan. I have no idea if that's reasonable, but he seems to know a lot of technical info.

    One thing interesting here is that this is the ONLY post on this Tumblr account. There are no other posts, no "About me", no background, details, nothing. Just this Tumblr, with one post. And there are HUNDREDS of retweets, repostings, etc. It's really making the rounds. There is a Keith Ledgerwood on Twitter (https://twitter.com/keithledgerwood), who says he posted the blog item, and he has 240 followers and 47 tweets (half of them about this topic, and half from 2011). His twitter feed reveals odd details, like his old cell phone # (not smart) and the fact that he was the cousin of Will Norton, a Joplin teenager killed when he was sucked out of the sunroof of his Hummer in the tornadoes of May 2011 (ref: http://www.newser.com/story/119665/w...ound-dead.html)

    So what is this? A sincere effort to explain something odd with less-than-scifi technology, or some sort of cointelpro trial balloon? I think it's the former, but it seems like he's spitballing to me. Less exotic than Joseph Farrell's explanation, but he may be onto somthing.

    Did it strike anyone already how all these people are somehow called "Wood"?

    - Philip Wood
    - Bob Woodruff
    - Keith Ledgerwood

    I mean...maybe it's a coïncidence, or maybe the plane is in the woods.

    Just something I noticed.
    AH, and I was the one who posted this originally, and look at MY screen name, eh? The plot thickens!

    Unfortunately, if there's an arboreal conspiracy afoot here, I have not been read into the program...

    Darn. :-)

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    Quote Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
    Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

    Quote "Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/
    Thanks for that EB. I'd missed this report today.

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    Quote Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
    Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

    Quote "Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/
    More articles to align and more or less verify this would be interesting....If this is true this could very well be a hot potato so to speak.
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    Quote Posted by swoods_blue (here)
    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    Quote Posted by swoods_blue (here)
    Keith Ledgerwood posted a theory about the disappearance [...] So what is this? A sincere effort to explain something odd with less-than-scifi technology, or some sort of cointelpro trial balloon?
    We asked Michael G. Fortune, a retired pilot who now works as an aviation consultant and expert witness, if that would be possible. After a lengthy pause, he gave us a skeptical "maybe." It would depend on what kind of radar equipment the Singapore 777 had on board, he said, and would require some serious aviation skill to find and stay behind the plane.

    Doug Moss, a former test pilot and aircraft accident investigator, was unconvinced. “It sounds totally crazy,” he told us, adding, “I see where the guy is coming from.” It’s possible in theory, he said. Large military planes can fly in formation, and there’s no reason one 777 couldn’t closely follow another.

    “The hard part in practicality is, how’s the guy gonna find another aeroplane,” and especially a specific plane, headed to the right part of the world? Moss asked.

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/pi...ard-yet-2014-3
    buares,

    Thanks for the link to that article. What it suggests is that A) This thesis represents a very difficult way to hide an airplane and B) Despite Moss' comment that it "sounds totally crazy," he doesn't think it actually sounds totally crazy -- just unlikely.

    However, we are certainly already in the realm of the "unlikely" when discussing the disappearance of a modern airliner with 220+ souls aboard.

    Whatever happened was unlikely to happen, pretty much by definition.

    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    Quote Posted by Violet (here)
    Quote Posted by swoods_blue (here)
    Interesting grist for the mill here...

    A blogger named Keith Ledgerwood posted a theory about the disappearance:

    http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/po...ing-sia68-sq68

    His contention is that MA370 could have hidden in the radar shadow of another 777 through India/Pakistan. I have no idea if that's reasonable, but he seems to know a lot of technical info.

    One thing interesting here is that this is the ONLY post on this Tumblr account. There are no other posts, no "About me", no background, details, nothing. Just this Tumblr, with one post. And there are HUNDREDS of retweets, repostings, etc. It's really making the rounds. There is a Keith Ledgerwood on Twitter (https://twitter.com/keithledgerwood), who says he posted the blog item, and he has 240 followers and 47 tweets (half of them about this topic, and half from 2011). His twitter feed reveals odd details, like his old cell phone # (not smart) and the fact that he was the cousin of Will Norton, a Joplin teenager killed when he was sucked out of the sunroof of his Hummer in the tornadoes of May 2011 (ref: http://www.newser.com/story/119665/w...ound-dead.html)

    So what is this? A sincere effort to explain something odd with less-than-scifi technology, or some sort of cointelpro trial balloon? I think it's the former, but it seems like he's spitballing to me. Less exotic than Joseph Farrell's explanation, but he may be onto somthing.

    Did it strike anyone already how all these people are somehow called "Wood"?

    - Philip Wood
    - Bob Woodruff
    - Keith Ledgerwood

    I mean...maybe it's a coïncidence, or maybe the plane is in the woods.

    Just something I noticed.
    AH, and I was the one who posted this originally, and look at MY screen name, eh? The plot thickens!

    Unfortunately, if there's an arboreal conspiracy afoot here, I have not been read into the program...

    Darn. :-)
    Swoods, man, that's one wood too many...I think Dorjezigzag also has a good point, though. The wood comes before the tree (and many trees make a wood).

    I think the next Wood is going to be Hollywood.

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    Thanks Araucaria When I say 'jest' I mean more something like 'cosmic joke' but if you've been around this Universe for a while ,
    you will probably agree that events occur that look like 'phenomenal cosmic jokes' .

    Even then , the real reason why I said that is that predicting time-line of space-time distortion is difficult and as long as ultimate hyperspace physics remains out of our control here ( for good good while yet ) ,
    we have no receptive device - functional 'stargate' to intercept and control such events even if they're announced and predictable .
    Lets presume they send us a signal .. from very faraway galaxy .. that in such and such time .. they'll be substantial transmission occurring between them and us ... if we have no device of sufficient capacity to intercept it , time-space distortion is out of our control .

    Anything getting lost in it is temporarily closed in loop that is 'time - space' alteration of the gravity field of the Earth . Even if we can not see it , it is still attached to here . It would then depend on the strength of the signal sent .. how long the distortion would last and in fact , longer it lasts ... even if they experience 'no lost time' in between .. further they may find themselves from the original location at the end ,
    complete full orbit .. against all the odds , it's also possible .


    I confess that since it's been 12 years this January since the Bodhgaya 2002 ET Event where I've been and reported , and unlike many 'other events' it carried huge amount of intelligent conscious information within it ,
    and it's been very poorly intercepted .. beyond our 'lay capacity' to handle the data so far ..
    I had very strong wish and intention to be back to Bodhgaya for the 12 year anniversary and had some ( even minor ) reason to believe that something might occur - repetition - .

    Of course I use my own 'skeptical check' , on me and all else, first of all , to eliminate every other plausible explanation . There I've been personally, call it chance or cosmic joke , or not , so I could report . Here of course .. we all will be watching and waiting for the best possible outcome.

    Is there any correlation between the two events ? That's way beyond my capacity to state at the moment .





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    Quote Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight
    simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember
    being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

    Quote "Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in
    Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US
    military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source
    told the Malay daily.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/



    Malaysia
    Cops find five Indian Ocean practice runways in MH370 pilot’s simulator, BH reports

    March 18, 2014





    Police have confiscated a home-made flight simulator from Captain Zaharie Ahmad
    Shah’s house in Shah Alam. — Reuters pic


    KUALA LUMPUR, March 18 ― Investigators have discovered the runways of five
    airports near the Indian Ocean loaded into Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s home-
    made flight simulator, a Malay daily reported today.An unnamed source told Berita
    Harian that while it was too early to make any conclusions on the new finding, it
    was still considered an important element in the probe on the whereabouts of the
    plane and its 239 people.

    “The simulation programmes are based on runways at the Male International
    Airport in Maldives, an airport owned by the United States (Diego Garcia), and
    three other runways in India and Sri Lanka, all have runway lengths of 1,000
    metres.

    “We are not discounting the possibility that the plane landed on a runway that
    might not be heavily monitored, in addition to the theories that the plane landed on
    sea, in the hills, or in an open space,” the source was quoted as saying.

    Although Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein denied yesterday that
    the plane had landed at US military base Diego Garcia, the source told the daily
    that this possibility will still be investigated based on the data found in Zaharie’s
    flight simulator software.

    The police had seized the flight simulator from the 53-year-old pilot’s house in Shah
    Alam on Saturday and reassembled it at the police headquarters where experts are
    conducting checks.The Transport Ministry has said that the police also searched the
    home of Zaharie’s co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid, on the same day.

    Also on Saturday, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said MH370 was diverted
    deliberately after someone on board switched off the Boeing 777’s communications
    systems.He said investigations were now being refocused at the crew and
    passengers aboard the plane.

    After MH370 disappeared from civilian radar in the early hours of March 8, the
    plane was flown westward from its intended path to Beijing, turning around at
    Checkpoint Igari in the South China Sea.



    In the Gallery

    Messages of hope and support written for the passengers of the missing Malaysia
    Airlines flight MH370 at the KLIA viewing area, Sepang, March 17, 2014. ― Picture
    by Saw Siow Feng

    From there, it flew on to Checkpoint Vampi, northeast of Indonesia’s Aceh province
    and a navigational point used for planes following route N571 to the Middle East.

    Subsequent plots indicate the plane flew towards Checkpoint Gival, south of the
    Thai island of Phuket, and was last plotted heading northwest towards another
    checkpoint, Igrex, used for route P628 that would take it over the Andaman Islands
    and which carriers use to fly towards Europe.

    The complexity involved led aviation experts to set their sights on the pilots and
    crew.
    - See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/ma....7kmlVRO5.dpuf

    http://www.themalaymailonline.com/ma...simulator-bh-r
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

    “We are not discounting the possibility that the plane landed on a runway that
    might not be heavily monitored
    , in addition to the theories that the plane landed on
    sea, in the hills, or in an open space,” the source was quoted as saying.

    Although Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein denied yesterday that
    the plane had landed at US military base Diego Garcia,
    the source told the daily
    that this possibility will still be investigated based on the data found in Zaharie’s
    flight simulator software.
    This is just more of the ignoramus double speak....."it's possible.....but it's not"

    We may as well face the fact that no is going to know what happened until, well, they let us know

    (or until secret agent Snowden tells us what happened)
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    There is one theory that I haven't yet seen any where mentioned or posted....

    That is; This jet has been highjacked and is sitting somewhere in a hostage/negotiation situation (all of this being done in secret of course). US special forces are in the process of a rescue mission any moment now......end game; Special forces eliminate the terrorists, rescue all the people and Obama becomes a hero.

    Lord knows Obama needs a major public boost right now!

    (I know, total long-shot theory!)
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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Thanks Araucaria When I say 'jest' I mean more something like 'cosmic joke' but if you've been around this Universe for a while ,
    you will probably agree that events occur that look like 'phenomenal cosmic jokes' .
    ...

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    Yes Agape, this is a huge monkey puzzle of a cosmic joke. We have lived for long enough with all kinjds of mysteries that we have carefully swept under the carpet, but this one is not going away.

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    Looks like we turned to the wrong Courtney to sort this out. Courtney Love (whoever that is) claims to have found MH370. Ah she's a Hole singer (whatever that is; sounds about right ):

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...0-9198965.html

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Hypothetically .. and I'm not limiting the idea to one of 'black hole' but if someone ( from other point of the Universe ) projects their version of condensed particle accelerator to Space , beam us with array of what they'd only find as 'exotic particles' after analysing the event here ,
    they can create 'time-space event' . Had been at one personally in Bodhgaya 2002 that's why I find this upsetting , I guess .

    Events 'such as this' though super-rare , did occur through out human history .. however unbelievable .. not all is explainable by way of 'simply 3D human logic' ,
    the Universe IS much vaster, more colourful, more powerful and it has ..Life ..


    It feels highly disturbing ... but you have numerous legends of old nations about people , things , even whole cities sometimes 'vanished' .

    In fact , should it have happened in this case , the plane could be flying in 'alternative space-time dimension' around Earth for a year without anyone being able to figure out where is it or what 's happened .. and once the 'space-time distortion effect' is over ( they tend to have timeline of their own .. ) it might find itself at any place around the Earth or if they're lucky enough but that's more in jest , 'continue on the way to Beijing with fresh mangosteens' .
    In the 'alternative space-time' , their time would not change .. they may not notice if they flew an hour or two more .


    Thanks Angel

    Your 'jest' is like Joseph Farrell's careful distancing from his own idea. Maybe we should be more serious about getting those fresh mangosteens to Beijing (and of course the passengers). It would make sense to carry such a fragile cargo if it were to demonstrate how weeks of earth time can pass while the ultimate in perishable goods stayed fresh.

    I was not jesting when I made my post 440:

    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
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    It may be that for it to collapse back into our macro-reality, it needs us the collective observer to decide, want, visualize, hope and pray for, simply expect, all of the above, what is to happen next. What that is will be for the highest good, because that is what the majority desire, and because that is the way of the universe; and this will likely involve the passengers and crew turning up somewhere safe and sound in such a way as to demonstrate this fact and confound those who would have us believe otherwise.

    Somewhere safe and sound may simply be taking up where they left off x days afterwards. Instead of missing time, it would be the whole world that has experienced added time, the mother of all timeouts

    Things are disregarded because they seem foolish. Improbable. Highly unlikely. But not impossible. Why in the world (here at Avalon) would something disappearing into a black hole or a portal of some sort not be a viable contention.

    And further we all know every single spinning dryer in the universe generates a portal. Where else would all those socks go? Wonder how saucers move. They generate the portal they pass through as they travel. Like a bubble around them. There used to be a child's toy that operated in this manner. It laid down and picked up track, and just kept on moseying along. Maybe spinning is where it's at. Well, just a preposterous idea. That many folks have thought about.

    Before this plane disappeared, I sent my son a text out of the blue about a plane leaving some airport called Sechelles,can't remember exactly. I sent it to him, get this, because he mentioned some strange name of a store he had worked in. At any rate this airport turned up somewhere in this thread. Araucaria? Jump in here. I will check the airport name. And will ask my son the name of the store.
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
    Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

    Quote "Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/
    More articles to align and more or less verify this would be interesting....If this is true this could very well be a hot potato so to speak.
    If the pilot was able to build his own flight simulator, he should have been able to withdraw the hard-drive from his computer before the flight. Why would he leave such a clue behind him ?

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
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    “The simulation programmes are based on runways at the Male International
    Airport in Maldives, an airport owned by the United States (Diego Garcia), and
    three other runways in India and Sri Lanka, all have runway lengths of 1,000
    metres.

    ...
    1000 meters = 3279 feet

    According to Boeing's own manual (777-200) that's under the very minimum to land on a dry runway.
    Taking of will not be possible ...

    Fortunately some things are easy to check

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    Just saying- the RVers who have targeted flight 370 have not come up with the plane being intact at all. In fact if you look at the drawings, they are all very similar, with similar descriptions.


    "I think everyone did really well, especially considering the circumstances. Looks like most of us have the fuselage broken into two, primary pieces. The reason I highly recommended doing the second location target was that it was a completely different experience for me than when I remote viewed the first location target. I didn't mean to depress people with a bunch of dead bodies, but I wanted to see if others got the same sense that I did, like being at the bottom of the Titanic wreckage. If we are done with this, KFA, would you like to reveal the cue of from the blind session? "

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    Quote Posted by carryattune (here)
    Before this plane disappeared, I sent my son a text out of the blue about a plane leaving some airport called Sechelles,can't remember exactly. I sent it to him, get this, because he mentioned some strange name of a store he had worked in. At any rate this airport turned up somewhere in this thread. Araucaria? Jump in here. I will check the airport name. And will ask my son the name of the store.
    Seychelles? Watch out, it's Sorcha

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    Sorcha just popped in with an update...

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    As we had previously noted in our report “Russia “Puzzled” Over Malaysia Airlines “Capture” By US Navy,” the GRU had previously notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of its suspicions regarding this flight due its containing a “highly suspicious” cargo that had been offloaded in the Republic of Seychelles from the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.

    First arousing the GRU’s concerns regarding this “highly suspicious” cargo, this report continues, was that after its unloading from the MV Maersk Alabama on 17 February, its then transfer to Seychelles International Airport where it was loaded on an Emirates flight bound for Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia, after first stopping over in Dubai, the two highly trained US Navy SEALS who were guarding it were found dead.

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    Missing Malaysia jet may have been detected by Thai radar

    10 days later, Thailand gives radar data

    Thailand's military says its radar detected a plane that may have been Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 just minutes after the missing jetliner's communications went down, and that it didn't share the information earlier because it wasn't specifically asked for it. Thai air force spokesman Montol Suchookorn said Tuesday the plane followed a twisting flight path to the Strait of Malacca, which is where Malaysian radar tracked Flight 370 early 8 March. But Montol said the Thai military wasn't sure whether it detected the same plane.

    Asked why it took so long to release the information, Montol said, "Because we did not pay any attention to it. The Royal Thai Air Force only looks after any threats against our country, so anything that did not look like a threat to us, we simply look at it without taking actions." He said the plane never entered Thai airspace and that Malaysia's initial request for information was not specific.

    "When they asked again and there was new information and assumptions from (Malaysian) Prime Minister Najib Razak, we took a look at our information again,"
    Montol said. "It didn't take long for us to figure out, although it did take some experts to find out about it."

    Montol said that at 1:28 a.m., Thai military radar "was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane," back toward Kuala Lumpur. The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, a Malaysian city along the Strait of Malacca. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include any data such as the flight number.

    He said he didn't know exactly when Thai radar last detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said Flight 370 was last detected by their own military radar at 2:14 a.m.

    Thai officials said radar equipment in southern Thailand detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said the plane might ultimately have passed through northern Thailand, but Thai Air Chief Marshal Prajin Juntong told reporters Tuesday that the country's northern radar did not detect it.
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