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    Default Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    From rt.com:

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    Treaty to accept Crimea, Sevastopol to Russian Federation signed
    Published time: March 18, 2014 11:53
    Edited time: March 18, 2014 12:24
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    RIA Novosti / Alexey Druzhinin

    Russia and Crimea have signed treaty of accession of the Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol in the Russian Federation following President Putin’s address to the Parliament.

    Russia’s President Vladimir Putin requests parliament to ratify the agreement that would see both Crimea and the city of Sevastopol joining Russia.

    “I ask you to consider the adoption of two new subjects of the Federation: Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol,” Putin told Parliamentarians.
    Crimea was represented by Prime Minister Sergey Aksenov and Sevastopol mayor Aleksey Chaly, who signed the treaty. The two were accompanied by Crimean top official Vladimir Konstantinov.

    “Since the adoption of the Russian Federation Republic of Crimea in structure of the Russian Federation two new entities - of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Federal importance Sevastopol – have been created,” the text of the treaty reads.

    The document will be sent for approval to the constitutional court, and then to ratification in the parliaments of the two countries.

    The transition period will be acting till January, 1 of 2015.
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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    so.... a little more than a quarter of ukraine just broke off and joined back with russia.... and it appears to be, at least from a treaty standpoint, a perfectly legal and acceptable move?


    the "I am ukranian" propiganda failed, the american population is still apathetic, so is the european population.


    was this a failed attempt at raising public support for a larger scale move or was this just what it seems to be?
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    the "I am ukranian" propiganda failed, the american population is still apathetic, so is the european population.


    was this a failed attempt at raising public support for a larger scale move or was this just what it seems to be?
    What sort of larger scale move did you have in mind when you asked that?

    (I guess my question is prima facie evidence that the attempt failed .)
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    The IMF (International Monetary Fund) lost, otherwise known as the City of London or the banker cabal. The BRIC's are slowly changing the world monetary funds from debtor to resourse based. IMHO

    See latest Neil Keenan update thread for info on this.

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    Quote 'Russia suspended as member of G8'

    PARIS -

    Russia has been suspended as a member of the G8. The French Foreign Minister, Laurent Fabius said Tuesday on French radio that the club's most influential industrialized nations has decided to exclude Russia for the time being.


    The talks club Estaing was founded by the French President Valery Giscard d 'Estaing in 1975 is now the G7. The club began with France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan and the U.S. (G6). In 1976, Canada (G7) and in 1998 Russia (G8) followed.
    Translated by Google from http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/o...lid_G8___.html

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    Warning to Ukraine: Former 'economic hitman': U.S. 'death economy' brought world to brink of destruction

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    Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:10 CDT


    A former "economic hitman" explained that the United States model for global domination cannot be repeated - and should not be attempted.

    Author John Perkins explained last week on the David Pakman Show how American corporations extorted natural resources from developing nations in a process that sounds very similar to domestic privatization schemes.

    Perkins, who wrote the 2004 book Confessions of an Economic Hitman about his experience working as a chief economist for the engineering company Chas. T. Main, said corporations would identify countries that had resources sought by the U.S. and arrange for them to obtain large loans from the World Bank and similar organizations.

    "But the money never actually went to the country," Perkins said. "Instead, it went to our own corporations to build infrastructure projects in that country. They made a great deal of profit from that."

    The countries would use those borrowed funds to build electrical systems, highways, industrial parks, and other infrastructure projects.

    "Yet the country would be left holding a huge debt they couldn't repay, and so at some point we'd go back and say, 'Hey, you know, since you can't pay your debts, sell your resource - oil, whatever - very cheap to our companies without any environmental restrictions or social regulations or privatize your public sector businesses, sell them real cheap - your utility companies, your water and sewage system, your schools, your jails, off to our corporations," Perkins said. "And in that way we created the world's first truly global empire, primarily without the use of the military."

    He said most economists agreed that developing countries needed better infrastructure to improve their economies, but he said statistics supporting this model were misleading.

    "I came to understand that the poor people were not benefitting, that the statistics reflect the very wealthy, which is true in this country, too, you know, that 85 people control more resources than half the world's population," Perkins said. "Our statistics are very, very skewed to those rich people."

    He claims in his book the U.S. backed the assassinations of Panamanian leader Omar Torrijos and Ecuadoran President Jaime Roldós Aguilera in a pair of 1981 plane crashes because they refused to bow to corporate interests.

    "We've created a death economy, one that's based on killing people, militarization, and ravaging the earth," Perkins said. "We need to move into a life economy that's based on cleaning up pollution, feeding starving people, developing new technologies, transportation, communications, (and) energy."

    He declared the global economy to be "an abject failure," arguing that Americans make up just 5 percent of the world's population but consume 30 percent of its natural resources.

    "That's not a model," Perkins said. "It can't be repeated by China, even though they're trying. It just puts the world in a worse condition when other countries try to repeat our model. We must come up with a new model."

    He said some corporate leaders and many consumers have arrived at similar conclusions and are beginning to take steps to correct the problems he's identified.

    "We're truly in a consciousness revolution, a huge revolution, where people are waking up to the fact that we're living on a very fragile space station that has no shuttles," Perkins said. "We're going to have to take care of this place, and big business is going to have to play a major role in waking up and taking care of this, serving a public interest - not the 1 percent, but the 99 percent - serving the earth, in essence, and we all need to get out there and make sure that happens."

    Watch the entire interview posted online by David Pakman Show:

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    We'll see what will be the final reaction of the west towards Russia regarding this matter
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    Will see what will be the final reaction of the west towards Russia regarding this matter
    See my post #5 ...

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    Russia suspended as member of G8
    And this is just the beginning of the possible retaliations.
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    Brzezinski Mapped Out the Battle for Ukraine in 1997

    It's all about maintaining the US position as the world's sole superpower

    by Chris Ernesto, March 15, 2014

    Why would the United States run the risk of siding with anti-Semitic, neo-Nazis in Ukraine?

    One of the keys may be found by looking back at Zbigniew Brzezinski’s 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard in which he wrote, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”

    “However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.”

    The former national security advisor to Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981 and top foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama, Brzezinski wrote that US policy should be “unapologetic” in perpetuating “America’s own dominant position for at least a generation and preferably longer still.”

    Brzezinski delved into the importance of little known Ukraine by explaining in his 1997 book, “Geopolitical pivots are the states whose importance is derived not from their power and motivation but rather from their sensitive location… which in some cases gives them a special role in either defining access to important areas or in denying resources to a significant player.”

    “Ukraine, Azerbaijan, South Korea, Turkey and Iran play the role of critically important geopolitical pivots,” he wrote in The Grand Chessboard, a book viewed by many as a blueprint for US world domination.

    Brzezinski wrote that Eurasia is “the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played,” and that “it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.”

    Understanding Brzezinski’s long-term view of Ukraine makes it easier to comprehend why the US has given $5 billion to Ukraine since 1991, and why today it is hyper-concerned about having Ukraine remain in its sphere of influence.

    It may also help explain why in the past year the US and many of its media outlets have feverishly demonized Vladimir Putin.


    Full article: http://original.antiwar.com/chris_er...kraine-in-1997

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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    I was going to do a post yesterday but got involved in another, after work
    yesterday I was looking at the history of the Crimea, and there is not a
    great historic Ukrainian claim to the peninsula. The Russians have a better
    one, though it does not seem to have been an idependent entity but a
    region of one empire or another and with the majority of the population
    being ethnic Russian,I don't think there was a lot to be done to prevent
    this reunion baring war. The Eastern Region of the Ukraine is different
    and that could spark off military conflict if developments keep going
    the way they are.


    The history of the Crimean peninsula covers more than 2,000 years, with many
    different conquerors and settlers throughout time. The Cimmerians, Greeks,
    Scythians, Goths, Huns, Bulgars, Khazars, the state of Kievan Rus',
    Byzantine Greeks, Romans, Kipchaks, Ottoman Turks, Golden Horde Tatars
    and the Mongols all controlled Crimea in its early history. In the 13th century,
    it was partly controlled by the Venetians and by the Genovese; they were
    followed by the Crimean Khanate and the Ottoman Empire in the 15th to
    18th centuries, the Russian Empire in the 18th to 20th centuries, the
    Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and later the Ukrainian
    Soviet Socialist Republic within the Soviet Union. In 1991 it became part
    of independent Ukraine, as the Autonomous Republic Crimea together
    with the city of Sevastopol.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea

    I watched this documentary about the battle for the
    Crimea in WW11 and it gives you a feel for the dogged
    determination of the Russian nature. As Napoleon before,
    Hitler under estimated Russian resolve under threat,
    after initial massive success, the Soviets were able to
    stop and eventually grind down the axis invasion.
    WW11 was mainly won and last on the Eastern front.


    Battlefield S6/E1 - The Battle For The Crimea


    After Stalingrad the tide of war turned against Germany


    Battlefield S1/E4 - The Battle of Stalingrad
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAsXB73TXSc

    Battlefield S4/E6 - The Siege of Leningrad
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5OCoxf64Xyg

    Battlefield S4/E1 - The Battle of Kursk
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=22xpNBJCS4U

    Battlefield S1/E6 - The Battle of Berlin
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qo95rTt9ikU

    Of course some would say who ever or what ever
    controls this world thrive off the essence of death
    and massive wealth accumulated by warfare at
    the industrial corporate level. So war is all part
    of their agenda to keep humanity in a perpectual
    cycle of fear of one and other.


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    Putin: Crimea vote figures 'more than convincing'



    Published on 18 Mar 2014

    Russian President Vladimir Putin discusses Crimea's referendum vote to join Russia.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    18 March 2014 Last updated at 15:39

    Ukraine crisis: Putin signs Russia-Crimea treaty


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26630062


    2014 - BBC World News - Ukraine Mobilises Army as Russia Prepares to Annex Crimea - 18/3/14



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    Ukraine moves troops to the Russian border




    Published on 17 Mar 2014


    The interim government in Ukraine refused to recognize Crimea's independence
    after Sunday's referendum, calling the vote "a circus." The Ukrainian Parliament
    then approved a measure to call up 20,000 military reservists and 20,000
    National Guard members and to increase its military budget. Gayane Chichakyan
    gets more information on Ukraine's reaction to events on the Crimean Peninsula
    from RT's Ryan O'Neill in Donetsk, Ukraine.
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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    The now G7 is heavily infiltrated by the Neo banker cabal and will be falling in number if Russia turns off the gas spigot. Debt economy is on the way out, watch and see. The East holds the world's wealth and the bankers cannot steal it any longer. Game is about over and the corrupt will be dealt with. IMHO

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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    Noticed on TV the Russian politicians gave Putin a standing ovation for annexing Crimea. There is a big difference with the way we see Crimea and how the Russian people are seeing it. Even Russians living in America are telling us Putin does as he says and our Prez don't and the hypocrisy of the US politics and red lines. And what can Europe do if most of their energy comes from Russia? Obama could do something immediately if he were to announce we will be sharing our free energy technologies with the rest of the world. That would remove the fear of energy loss to Europe and Russia could no longer hold them hostage.

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    From Davids site.....


    Jubilation in Crimea as 95 per cent vote to join Russia – but Ukrainian prime
    minister warns separatist leaders that the ‘ground will burn under their feet’

    Monday 17th March 2014 at 07:12 By David Icke





    ‘Fireworks exploded and Russian flags were waved by jubilant crowds tonight after
    Crimea voted overwhelmingly to split from Ukraine and join Russia.

    With 50 per cent of ballots counted, 95.5 per cent of voters have backed passing
    control of the region from Kiev to Moscow.

    The result comes after Ukrainian prime minister Arseny Yatseniuk vowed to hunt
    down the ‘separatist leaders’ in Crimea, warning that the ‘ground will burn under their feet’.’

    Read more …

    http://rt.com/news/international-obs...eferendum-190/

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/03/17/


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    Crimean ‘referendum at gunpoint’ is a myth – international observers



    ‘The referendum on Crimea’s status is going peacefully, with record-breaking
    turnout, international observers report. Most of them told RT that the referendum is
    credible and the vote of the Crimean people should be respected.

    No violations at the Crimea referendum have been reported by the international
    observers currently present in the republic.

    “It’s all quiet so far,” Mateus Psikorkski, the leader of the European observers’
    mission and Polish MP told Itar-Tass. “Our observers have not registered any
    violations of voting rules.”

    Another observer, Ewald Stadler, member of the European Parliament, dispelled
    the “referendum at gunpoint” myth, by saying he felt people were free to make
    their choice.

    “I haven’t seen anything even resembling pressure,” he said. “People themselves
    want to have their say.”’

    Read more …

    http://rt.com/news/international-obs...eferendum-190/

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/03/17/

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    12 videos showing why Ukraine fears and stands up to radical nationalists




    ‘Ukrainian ultra-nationalist groups actively fought on Maidan to overthrow President
    Yanukovich. Now as the fierce riots in Kiev are over, they are unwilling to give up
    their violent ways, unleashing their “revolutionary” power against local authorities.

    They hide their faces behind masks. They wear jeans and camouflage, helmets and
    bulletproof vests. Their arsenal is not rich, but it’s quite powerful: spiked ball
    maces, baseball bats, batons, spades, and flames. Under the guise of “self defense
    units,” they attack activists without distinction in Kiev.

    On February 15, activists from ‘For a Clean Kiev’ gathered to sweep up the mess,
    collect trash, and dismantle the barricades across the city’s main central square
    that was at the heart of the revolt. But radicals blocked them from doing so.’

    Read more …

    http://rt.com/news/ukraine-nationali...ars-video-674/

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Obama Off The Ukrainian Deep End




    ‘The neo-fascist coup d’état that overthrew the democratically elected government
    of Ukraine has the President of the United States firmly on board. Obama’s support
    for this illegitimate, unlawful transfer of power in Ukraine has reached schizophrenic
    heights as an Executive Order has proclaimed a “national emergency” in defense of
    the Molotov tossing, spiked bat-swinging Neo-Nazis of Kiev. As Secretary of State
    John Kerry threatens to escalate the East/West conflict in cryptic allusions, the
    world now awaits the possibility of World War. US warships, planes and troops
    continue to scurry toward the region.

    What Obama has done is absurd. There is no more diplomatic way of stating it. His
    hypocrisy and support for clearly illegitimate and unelected Ukrainian leaders now
    threatens the freedom, and lives, of Americans who call out this insanity, such as
    yours truly in this very article.’

    Read more …

    http://www.activistpost.com/2014/03/...-deep-end.html

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/03/17/
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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    It should not be forgotten the Soviets deported much
    of the Tartar population from the Crimea for crimes
    against the motherland. Which was rescinded later.






    -------------------------------------------------------

    Like most invasions in the past the strongest usually
    win and when you look back over the past centuries
    you find this cycle has always gone on, from whatever
    culture.

    Mongol Hordes: Tartar Crusaders

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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    Still can't comprehend how anyone on this forum could take any side in this East/West coup ...

    But i do recognize (sense) a lot of anti American (U.S.) sentiment amongst a few traffickers here on this forum.

    Carry On !

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    Full video: Putin's address on Crimea joining Russia, signing ceremony



    Published on 18 Mar 2014


    President Vladimir Putin has, in the last hour, signed a treaty to incorporate Crimea
    into Russia.Putin signed the law after a speech to Russia's parliament, in which he
    hit back at his critics.It comes after Sunday's referendum in Crimea, which saw
    overwhelming support for a union with Russia.He condemned Ukraine's "so-called"
    authorities, saying they had stolen power in a coup and had opened the way
    for "extremists" who would stop at nothing to determine the future of the country.

    Addressing a joint session of Russia's parliament, Putin said: "Those who were
    behind recent events, they were ... preparing a coup d'etat, another one. They
    were planning to seize power, stopping at nothing. Terror, murder, pogroms were
    used."

    He called them "nationalists, neo-Nazis, Russophobes and anti-Semites" adding: "It
    is primarily they who are deciding how Ukraine lives today. The so-called Ukrainian
    authorities introduced a scandalous law on the revision of the language policy,
    which directly violated the rights of the national minorities."

    He said Moscow sees Western attempts to frighten Russia with sanctions as
    aggression and will retaliate.Earlier Putin signed a decree which recognises Crimea
    as a sovereign and independent state. The Kremlin said the order would take
    immediate effect.

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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    Two corrupt fascist superpowers fighting over power again. So what's new under the Sun, is this the cold war 2.0 or did it even ever stop? The hope for a better future does not lie in the hands of countries nor governments, it lies in our hands.

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    Default Re: Treaty signed for Crimea to join the Russian Federation

    The process of freeing the Crimea area
    from the coup regime in Ukraine is legitamate,
    from the russian viewpoint, of course .

    No mattar any other viewpoint, then
    Russia should receive that Crimea Area
    as a gift, for saving us "westerners" from the Nazis
    in the Last world war. They gave the most to stop
    them, at least 35 billion (million) people dead in service,
    & then d USA "alliance" swooped in at the end
    and claimed all the glory, uummn m ....

    Seems like the fascists are making one last run for it ...
    Let us hope mother russia is up to the challenge again ..

    Be well

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