Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Operator]

Posted by Aurelius (here)
Everyone (crew and passengers) were physiologically incapacitated due to the plane going through an extreme, rapid & uncontrolled decompression. Everyone suffered crippling hypoxia & hypothermia

What caused it to be uncontrolled ?

Going down means higher pressure ... so I assume the scenario is about a hole in the fuselage of the craft ?
Did someone get rid of a door in mid-flight?

P.S. What is the source of the info in your post?

[Elainie]

location of the plane (see yellow pin):



What happened:

Act of piracy on the part of the Captain. Captain's destination was Mogadishu, Somalia. Co-pilot was unaware of the Captain's plan. First Officer died a hero, was in the Co-Pilot's seat until the very end. First Officer locked Caption outside cockpit, possibly (?) after a violent struggle. Everyone (crew and passengers) were physiologically incapacitated due to the plane going through an extreme, rapid & uncontrolled decompression. Everyone suffered crippling hypoxia & hypothermia. First Officer wasn't able to regain control of the plane.

Is this how Ed Dame's described it via his RV sessions?

[Hervé]

Posted by Operator (here)
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P.S. What is the source of the info in your post?

Follow the links from "plane (see yellow pin)" to C2C site where he talks of Ed' "map" (hyperlink).

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/03/17

[Elainie]

Amzer Zo- you have to be a member to listen.

[SilentFeathers]

Bumping this because it just may be one of the most important posts in this thread:

Why would these islanders lie?

(I'm not ignoring the possibility that this story/report may be bogus), but, if you think about it, almost every single report and story thus far (for two weeks now) have been trying to make us look in the opposite direction, even as far away as Kazakhstan. They said they basically can prove it turned west, but they won't look much further than the eastern part of the Andaman Sea????? hmmmm.

I've been waiting for two weeks now for something to jump out at me about this event, well, this is jumping out at me.

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

"Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/

Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo have reported seeing a "low flying jumbo jet" on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

Several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8. They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," said an eyewitness. "It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."

Mohamed Zaheem, the Island Councilor of Kuda Huvadhoo, said that the residents of the island had spoken about the incident. A local aviation expert told Haveeru that it is "likely" for MH370 to have flown over the Maldives. The possibility of any aircraft flying over the island at the reported time is extremely low, the expert added.

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From Google maps:

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Möbius (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

"Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/

Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo have reported seeing a "low flying jumbo jet" on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

Several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8. They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

From Google maps:

Somalia could have been the destination as there is no government running the country so it would be easier to hide the plane when it landed.

By the directions these people claim, it sounds like it may of been going towards Diego Garcia (if this report is even true).

Also from the article:

Satellite data suggests that the last "ping" was recieved from the flight somwhere close to the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia.

If this was an actually sighting of this missing jet, well, it kind of looks as if Diego Garcia may have something to do with this.....

Why would these Maldive islanders lie?????

why would none of the other Islands have any reports of a low flying plane?

these are quiet cabin resorts, a jet rolling though at low altitude would have everyone talking...

[Hervé]

Posted by ERK (here)
Amzer Zo- you have to be a member to listen.

Well, I "listen" to this:

Missing Malaysian Plane

At the start of the first hour, remote viewing teacher Major Ed Dames shared a map which he believes shows the location of the missing Malaysian jet. He suggested that the airliner's pilot, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, committed an act of piracy, planning to take the jet to Somalia. He ended up struggling with the co-pilot, and the plane was inadvertently downed after it went through a rapid uncontrolled decompression, said Dames.

Author Whitley Strieber appeared in the first hour, sharing his theory that the missing plane didn't crash into the sea, but landed somewhere, avoiding radar detection. He posited that the goal may be for the plane to be used for a future terrorist attack, possibly loaded with nuclear materials.

Joining the show for a segment in the first hour, and part of the second hour, a pilot for a major airline, 'Charlie' (pseudonym), also offered commentary and theories about the jet. "I think it's on the ground somewhere. It probably landed somewhere first at a predestined location, where they had fuel waiting," he remarked. If the plane crashed, there would be a debris field and a merchant sea locator transmitter sending out a radio frequency signal, and an emergency locator beacon (an underwater signal), he noted.

From: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/03/17

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

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Posted by buares (here)

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
Just read that there were five airports programed into pilots flight simulator and one was Diego Garcia airport (US military base) which i remember being discussed earlier in the thread. Must go back and have a look.

"Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/

Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo have reported seeing a "low flying jumbo jet" on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370

Several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8. They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

From Google maps:

Somalia could have been the destination as there is no government running the country so it would be easier to hide the plane when it landed.

By the directions these people claim, it sounds like it may of been going towards Diego Garcia (if this report is even true).

Also from the article:

Satellite data suggests that the last "ping" was recieved from the flight somwhere close to the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia.

If this was an actually sighting of this missing jet, well, it kind of looks as if Diego Garcia may have something to do with this.....

Why would these Maldive islanders lie?????

why would none of the other Islands have any reports of a low flying plane?

these are quiet cabin resorts, a jet rolling though at low altitude would have everyone talking...

Sounds like a group of people are talking.....and also it's likely this jet could of just crossed a small section of one or two islands and the numerous other islands never heard or saw a thing.

I ,may be diving down another rabbit hole but this is surely jumping out at me considering all the other garbage that doesn't make ANY sense. I'm starting to see a pattern that's been going on for two weeks that seems to be "avoiding" the possibility this plane went this far towards the west, when it easily could have. I think there may be something to this.....but of course I may be wrong, but the way I think when it comes to one hand pointing in one direction, is to look in the opposite direction, especially when the hand can't be trusted.

I also find in VERY interesting that Diego Garcia is directly south of the Maldives, basically the direction these islanders claim this phantom jet was heading....

[Aurelius]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
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Why would these Maldive islanders lie?????

imagine the following flight path: take-off from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia .. destined for Beijing, China ... Captain takes control .. starts heading for Mogadishu, Somalia .. flies over the Maldives (sightings take place) .. struggle takes place? ... flight path now altered to the east? .. crashes approx 100 miles before reaching Thailand/Malaysia

looking at the distance between Kuala Lumpur & Beijing i'd say they had enough fuel for this run-around?

[chocolate]

Now listen /read this : (the original words I will leave as black, my comment will be in red)

The site is a wide open space, an expanse that is vast, flat and wide, grey, crumbly, grainy, coarse, and dusty as in rocky, ashy, volcanic coastline? (no water leaping out at me in all this) as in a waterline of an island. I get location, mountains, distance, and meandering.

There is cool, warm and quiet as in after landing, air-cool, surface of jet and inside- warm. There is a rattling sound as in rotors of helicopters above. The idea of ‘open space’ is strong as in outside, above looking down. Something about the particular aspect is angular and straight as in perpendicular, lift?, and I get interior of something man-made. This might explain the two contrasting temperatures. There is a long diagonal crack running along the surface of the flat expanse as in dragging while landing. The impression was similar to drawing a line in the wet sand at the beach with the end of a stick, i.e. something had scoured it. I feel puzzled and lonely. what happened, nobody alive around?

The main object is a man-made /constructed thing that can be conceived of as a tool airplane. It is hard, edged coloured white red and blue (no kidding! but could be AOL I guess). See the signature of Malaysia airlines There is an acrid sweet smell present as in burnt synthetic interior . The temperature is both hot and cool. There are voices and a booming sound as in people and helicopters or people inside and the engine calming down after landing. The thing is long, wide, curving, open, high, oval in an elongated fashion, above and big. as if the plane has landed somewhere above something, like hanging in the air? The word ‘elevator’!!! as in lift from the plane to reach the ground seems significant here. I get strong emotions coming from the site. These are fear, apprehension, terror, and panic – various terms for the same emotion perhaps. There is also a fluttering, a current (which seemed to be above and airborne) rotors of helis, and there is a manifesto involved here. I have to add here I had an impression of many wide staring eyes in beings unable to move for some reason, as if restrained. I feel both cautious and incredulous as in careful not to tip it over and seemingly impossible.

Finally, things are scattered across, above and over a wide area remember the mangosteen and other cargo spilled while landing?. These things are brittle, soft, edged, thin and small pieces of upholstery, other small things etc.. yellow and orange. Things present as an environment. There is multitude, broken, type, embedded, full scape (not sure?) twilight, embellished, and resistant attributes all here. There is brightness and light with both fresh and pungent smells present as in FIRE and ELECTRICAL SPARKS?. Something tastes sour, something tastes bland. There is coolness, and something warm. There is a rattling sound and also one that is high pitched (like a whistling noise). There is the strong re-occurrent idea of autumn leaves as in burning autumn leaves?. There is also the idea of ‘filtered through it’. I feel awed. as in unplanned, surprising etc

This is the last of the rV sessions I attached for you yesterday.

Mr. Doom is making a small tale of all of this already.

That would be my take of it.

Ed Dames here appears only as a translator and an official figure. The rV session is done by one of his staff.
Not that I trust anything right now, but out of everything this picture seems quite complete.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Aurelius (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
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Why would these Maldive islanders lie?????

imagine the following flight path: take-off from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia .. destined for Beijing, China ... Captain takes control .. starts heading for Mogadishu, Somalia .. flies over the Maldives (sightings take place) .. struggle takes place? ... flight path now changed to the east .. crashes approx 200 miles before Bangkok? Malaysia?

looking at the distance between Kuala Lumpur & Beijing i'd say they had enough fuel for this run-around?

I like Ed Dames, but I'm not agreeing with him this time.

[chocolate]

Pay attention to the words location, mountains, distance, meandering, whatever those might mean.

[Harley]

Posted by buares (here)
Could the aircraft have been ‘swapped’ mid-air?

Generally air traffic radars use something called a “Squawk” code – this is 4 digits, say ’1234′ – that is then used to transmit information to the ground radar of the aircraft’s position and other relevant detail. This is very easily disabled – it is operated with a simple on/off switch. The Boeing 777 has two separate systems for safety in the event of failure.

There is another angle which i think might be a possibility that the MH370 switched codes. If MH370 had a code of, say 4376, then it would be pretty easy to get another aircraft, say a Gulfstream 5 private jet, to fly up behind it and swap codes. The Gulfstream sets its squawk code to the same as MH370′s code of 4376 then the B777 takes on the Gulfstream’s code, and they then split… It would certainly make it easier for the B777 to continue on undetected.

As I said, it's easy to change the transponder codes.

But you couldn't change from one set of codes to another while in mid-flight without it being noticed by ATC.

Also, in the scenario above, mil radar would've then tracked two unidentified aircraft from that point rather than just one, with one going in one direction and the other going in another direction.

Military Tracking Radar doesn't track commercial air traffic transponder codes.

Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)

Posted by sheme (here)
http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-con...p-2451212.html

Karl Edgar Graham, UK National
Damansara Heights,Malaysia.

Flight MH370 did it land at a secret CIA Base at U-Tapao, Thailand? The lies of the US Government and cover up.

“The very best place to hide something is hide it in the last possible place someone would look”.

Remember this from about 10 pages back?
(Excerpt)

Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
[...] flown to Thailand for refueling. (Guess what? Who controls large military bases in Thailand?)

[...] flown to Afghanistan. (Even more remote and secure. Oh and Guess what? Who controls large military bases in Afghanistan?)

[...] Afghanistan would make a great jumping-off point for lots of stuff.

It was most likely already on the ground by the time Malaysia reported it missing to the public.

It most likely departed the location on the same day after nightfall.

The theory of it 'Hiding in the shadow of another aircraft' is possible, but not feasible. Risk of detection for a covert op is far too great.

There is a much easier and safer way: Simply change the codes on the transponder.

1. Land the plane before the search even gets underway (It's still dark).

2. Depart location after Night-Fall using new codes of say a mil transport (for example).

3. With low to no visibility (darkness) and using codes of mil transport (example), fly approved mil routes to destination.

Easy-Peasy and absolutely no hassle!

[Aurelius]

Posted by chocolate (here)
Now listen /read this : (the original words I will leave as black, my comment will be in red)

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this session relates to TRN [3784/2884] a different one to that used by Dames (he did his independently). So they may both be correct in their own right. Soon they will reveal what the 2x target's were and one will be able to see the differences. ie. Dames explicitly included the current location of passenger Phillip Woods & the First officer when seeking the location. TRN [3784/2884] may have references a part of the plane.

[Herbert]

Common sense tells us the simplest explanation is almost always correct because it is based on experience.

By an experienced pilot.

A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet
BY CHRIS GOODFELLOW03.18.146:30 AM

There has been a lot of speculation about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Terrorism, hijacking, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN; it’s almost disturbing. I tend to look for a simpler explanation, and I find it with the 13,000-foot runway at Pulau Langkawi.

We know the story of MH370: A loaded Boeing 777 departs at midnight from Kuala Lampur, headed to Beijing. A hot night. A heavy aircraft. About an hour out, across the gulf toward Vietnam, the plane goes dark, meaning the transponder and secondary radar tracking go off. Two days later we hear reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar, meaning the plane is tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the Strait of Malacca.


The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shah1 was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer.

Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport.

The loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire.
When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and searched for airports in proximity to the track toward the southwest.

For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.

There are two types of fires. An electrical fire might not be as fast and furious, and there may or may not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility, given the timeline, that there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires, it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes, this happens with underinflated tires. Remember: Heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long-run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. Once going, a tire fire would produce horrific, incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks, but this is a no-no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter, but this will last only a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one in my flight bag, and I still carry one in my briefcase when I fly.)

What I think happened is the flight crew was overcome by smoke and the plane continued on the heading, probably on George (autopilot), until it ran out of fuel or the fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. You will find it along that route–looking elsewhere is pointless.

lang-660

Ongoing speculation of a hijacking and/or murder-suicide and that there was a flight engineer on board does not sway me in favor of foul play until I am presented with evidence of foul play.

We know there was a last voice transmission that, from a pilot’s point of view, was entirely normal. “Good night” is customary on a hand-off to a new air traffic control. The “good night” also strongly indicates to me that all was OK on the flight deck. Remember, there are many ways a pilot can communicate distress. A hijack code or even transponder code off by one digit would alert ATC that something was wrong. Every good pilot knows keying an SOS over the mike always is an option. Even three short clicks would raise an alert. So I conclude that at the point of voice transmission all was perceived as well on the flight deck by the pilots.

But things could have been in the process of going wrong, unknown to the pilots.

Evidently the ACARS went inoperative some time before. Disabling the ACARS is not easy, as pointed out. This leads me to believe more in an electrical problem or an electrical fire than a manual shutdown. I suggest the pilots probably were not aware ACARS was not transmitting.

As for the reports of altitude fluctuations, given that this was not transponder-generated data but primary radar at maybe 200 miles, the azimuth readings can be affected by a lot of atmospherics and I would not have high confidence in this being totally reliable. But let’s accept for a minute that the pilot may have ascended to 45,000 feet in a last-ditch effort to quell a fire by seeking the lowest level of oxygen. That is an acceptable scenario. At 45,000 feet, it would be tough to keep this aircraft stable, as the flight envelope is very narrow and loss of control in a stall is entirely possible. The aircraft is at the top of its operational ceiling. The reported rapid rates of descent could have been generated by a stall, followed by a recovery at 25,000 feet. The pilot may even have been diving to extinguish flames.

But going to 45,000 feet in a hijack scenario doesn’t make any good sense to me.

Regarding the additional flying time: On departing Kuala Lampur, Flight 370 would have had fuel for Beijing and an alternate destination, probably Shanghai, plus 45 minutes–say, 8 hours. Maybe more. He burned 20-25 percent in the first hour with takeoff and the climb to cruise. So when the turn was made toward Langkawi, he would have had six hours or more hours worth of fuel. This correlates nicely with the Inmarsat data pings being received until fuel exhaustion.

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible.
The now known continued flight until time to fuel exhaustion only confirms to me that the crew was incapacitated and the flight continued on deep into the south Indian ocean.

There is no point speculating further until more evidence surfaces, but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign pilots who well may have been in a struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue. Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. There is no doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijacking would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It probably would have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided where they were taking it.

Surprisingly, none of the reporters, officials, or other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot’s viewpoint: If something went wrong, where would he go? Thanks to Google Earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times.

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well-remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed, I believe, in Columbus, Ohio in the 1980s. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn’t instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually, but lost 30-odd souls. The 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. They simply ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what? The transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses.

Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. Two plus two equals four. For me, that is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction. Smart pilot. He just didn’t have the time.

Chris Goodfellow has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engine planes. His theory on what happened to MH370 first appeared on Google+. We’ve copyedited it with his permission.

1CORRECTION 9:40 a.m. Eastern 03/18/14: An editing error introduced a typo in Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s name.

[chocolate]

Herbert, I posted this already, and got a no-no response.

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Posted by Aurelius (here)

Posted by chocolate (here)
Now listen /read this : (the original words I will leave as black, my comment will be in red)

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this session relates to TRN [3784/2884] a different one to that used by Dames. Depending on what the targets were they may both be correct. Soon they wil both port their target ref material and one will be able to see how they differ.

Ed Dames hasn't have enough time to do a new one, he is speaking on coast to coast based on the old one.

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Yes, his guys have finished with at least one session, but he has gone already ... I am reading from their forum right now.

Will update with the new result shortly if someone doesn't do it before me.

[chocolate]

I think everyone did really well, especially considering the circumstances. Looks like most of us have the fuselage broken into two, primary pieces. The reason I highly recommended doing the second location target was that it was a completely different experience for me than when I remote viewed the first location target. I didn't mean to depress people with a bunch of dead bodies, but I wanted to see if others got the same sense that I did, like being at the bottom of the Titanic wreckage. If we are done with this, KFA, would you like to reveal the cue of from the blind session?

And it seems the plane is standing perpendicular to the ground as in crashed vertically...

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The target from Ed D.

A. I employed TRV to determine the mindsets of the pilot and co-pilot during the flight.

B. I employed RV Geofix to determine the locations of:

1. A passenger (Phillip Woods)
2. First officer
3. Planned destination of the pilot
4. Planned destination of the co-pilot

Will furnish exact TRNs/cues when I have time.

Doom

With Geofix they are able to get somewhat if not completely precise location coordinates.

[Aurelius]

Posted by chocolate (here)
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Ed Dames hasn't have enough time to do a new one, he is speaking on coast to coast based on the old one.[COLOR="red"]
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Important to note Dames looked for the actual location of his target (pin pointing it on a map), this involves many sessions and hence takes time. The team working on TRN [3784/2884] are purely describing the location (as if you were standing there) based on their target (which if different to Dames') ie. the team are not intending to pin point it on a map.

[chocolate]

this is the more significant ST of one of the rv-ers [Tiger74].

And his work as it exists on the forum over there:

[8619/4839]
Project Missing Plane
Location of fuselage
Jeff C.
3-17-2014
4:28 am C.S.T.

Analysis: The location has the fuselage which visually appears to be broken into two primary pieces; both have a lot of flowing movement though them. There is furniture present as well as broken things, fumes, and a hanging door. Two, massive, counter-rotating currents envelop the fuselage.

Postulate: The fact that the vortex is freezing cold could imply it has its origins in the sky, but I really get the sense it is primarily in the water. Perhaps it is a local, geological oddity or a strong, ocean eddy of some kind. Honestly, this could be on land where there are very strong currents. I can’t say with absolute certainty whether or not the fuselage is under water, which is disappointing. If I just go by my data, I would have to say it appears to be on land. I also can't rule out the possibility that there were survivors and/or hostages. Some of my data could me interpreted as families being peeled away from their seats, running and being knocked out. But that all fits with a plane crash, too. It's too difficult a problem to solve on a location cue alone, in my opinion, at least by myself with one session. But that wasn't our intention/expectation with this target anyway.

Summary
A short, radial pattern is above. Someone here feels belligerent. There is “standing room only”. A thing that is like a ‘trident’ is below. It is red, mauve, triangular, square and rotating. Something has been enacted. A ‘pole’ is present. Motion is present in a quiet place with silver and beige colors.

A white, tubular thing reminds me of a ‘fence’. It is an object that is vented which appears to have flowing movement through it. It smells ‘fumy’ here. Again, there is something circular and radiating out above. I feel lonely here. There is a framed, hanging thing that reminds me of a ‘hanging chad’, it’s a ‘door’. A freezing cold ‘vortex’ is here. It looks like there are two, primarily hollow, but crowded features that are rectangular. It’s quiet here and something reminds me of a ‘vegetable’. Comfort and “crying families” are relevant which makes me very sad (AOL – relatives, moments of death). It’s soft under (something) and the idea of being “peeled away from” furniture (AOL – plane seats). Something white, small, cylindrical and moving is either in a running position, or is running from a position.

Finally, a small circumference of ‘wind’ is prevalent at the site. There is ‘broken China’ present. There is massive flow around something glistening silver-black; it’s above, roomy, cylindrical and falling. I feel like I am left for dead (AOL – bodies). Something small, quiet and vaporous is like a ‘chimney’. Someone feels knocked out. There is a ker-thumpk! sound.
*note - 'broken China' may have actually been perceived as China. Looking back, I feel I may have edited that in session. I only bring it up because it may be relevant to a location.

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Posted by Aurelius (here)

Posted by chocolate (here)
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Ed Dames hasn't have enough time to do a new one, he is speaking on coast to coast based on the old one.[COLOR="red"]
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Important to note Dames looked for the actual location of his target (pin pointing it on a map), this involves many sessions and hence takes time. The team working on TRN [3784/2884] are purely describing the location (as if you were standing there) based on what their target (which if different to Dames') ie. the team are not intending to pin point it on a map.

Yes, the team did the observation, Ed did the coordinates.

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Expanding here now, when I have gotten cooler

Ed did a location pin-point with Geofix,
while the explanation of what has happened, the details have been taken from what I can surmise the older sessions.
I posted the new session above just as a further addition to the overall picture.

With this work the earlier sessions get more precise results since the more information one gets the more 'not precise' or front-leaded, as we call them, the results get.

Edited to add:
It will be interesting to listen to C2C (if anyone is able to) for the pre-destination of both the main and the co-pilot based on Ed's rV session (he included this in his search for co-ordinates). That would give you an idea of the manifesto, or the pre-planning, if it were present.

[Atlas]

Posted by chocolate (here)
Herbert, I posted this already, and got a no-no response.

Jeff Wise says Goodfellow’s theory is wrong:

While it’s true that MH370 did turn toward Langkawi and wound up overflying it, whoever was at the controls continued to maneuver after that point as well, turning sharply right at VAMPI waypoint, then left again at GIVAL. Such vigorous navigating would have been impossible for unconscious men.

Goodfellow’s theory fails further when one remembers the electronic ping detected by the Inmarsat satellite at 8:11 on the morning of March 8. [...] Without human intervention it simply could not have reached the position we know it attained at 8:11 a.m.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_te..._langkawi.html