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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Richard Quest was in the cockpit with the co-pilot weeks before MH370 incident.


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    Quote Posted by Slorri (here)
    Richard Quest was in the cockpit with the co-pilot weeks before MH370 incident.

    This is REALLY BIZARRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's another article:

    Quote One of the more bizarre coincidences in the mystery of missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 is the fact CNN airline and aviation correspondent Richard Quest met with the co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid, weeks before the plane’s disappearance.

    It was part of a taping Quest was doing in February for CNN Business Traveler, and it hasn’t aired yet on CNN. Hamid, a 27-year-old first officer, was taking part in a training session, flying from Hong Kong to Kuala Lumpur.

    http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/18/fariq-hamid-pilot
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    This may have been mentioned already but its on Todays David headline page.


    Malaysian plane: 20 on board worked for electronic warfare and radar defence
    company with the Father George Bush Carlyle Group as shareholders

    new Sunday 23rd March 2014 at 09:46 By David Icke

    ‘A US technology company which had 20 senior staff on board Malaysia Airlines
    Flight MH370 had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar
    systems in the days before the Boeing 777 went missing.




    Freescale Semiconductor, which makes powerful microchips for industries including
    defence, released the powerful new products to the American market on March 3.
    Five days later, Flight MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing with 239
    people on board including 20 working for Freescale. Twelve were from Malaysia,
    while eight were Chinese nationals.Freescale’s spokesman Mitch Haws has
    said: “These were all people with a lot of experience and technical background and
    they were very important people. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.”

    Freescale’s shareholders include the Carlyle Group of private equity investors whose
    past advisers have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British
    Prime Minister John Major.’

    Carlyle’s previous heavyweight clients include the Saudi Binladin Group, the
    construction firm owned by the family of Osama bin Laden.The fact that Freescale
    had so many highly qualified staff on board the Boeing 777 had already prompted
    wild conspiracy theories about what might have happened.The company says they
    were flying to China to improve its consumer products operations, but Freescale’s
    fresh links to electronic warfare technology is likely to trigger more speculation and
    deepen the mystery.




    Experts have been baffled how a large passenger jet seems to have flown
    undetected and possibly beaten military radar systems for up to six hours.
    Avoiding radar via “cloaking technology” has long been one of the objectives of the
    defence industry and Freescale has been active developing chips for military radar.

    On its website, the company says its radio frequency products meet the
    requirements for applications in “avionics, radar, communications, missile guidance,
    electronic warfare and identification friend or foe”.

    Last June it announced it was creating a team of specialists dedicated to
    producing “radio frequency power products” for the defence industry.

    And on March 3, it announced it was releasing 11 of these new gadgets for use
    in “high frequency, VHF and low-band UHF radar and radio communications”.

    The company did not respond to questions from Express Online, including whether
    any of its missing employees had been working on the defence products.



    It neither provided any responses to the latest bizarre conspiracy theory being
    widely published on the comments sections of newspaper websites and other
    internet forums.The comment reads: “It reads: “Have you pieced together the
    puzzle of missing flight 370 to Beijing China? If not, here are your missing pieces.

    “Patents Patents Patents.

    “Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office,
    four of the five Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor
    of Austin TX.

    “Patent is divided up on 20 per cent increments to five holders.

    “Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20 per
    cent); Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20
    per cent); Freescale Semiconductor (20 per cent).

    “If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of
    the deceased if not disputed in a will.

    “If four of the five dies, then the remaining one Patent holder gets 100 per cent of
    the wealth of the patent.

    “That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.”

    It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese
    members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.

    “Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their
    heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane
    went missing, the patent had not been approved.”

    However, the absurd theory does not add up.

    Although a Freescale patent does exist under number US8650327, none of the
    names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian
    authorities.The search continues for Flight MH370 but speculation surrounding its
    fate grows by the day.Some experts believe the plane was hijacked–possibly by the
    pilots–or that there was a struggle on board which led to a catastrophic
    decompression.However, no seat cushions or luggage that would have been
    expected to float have yet been found in the vast Indian Ocean where it might have
    crashed.


    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...efence-company

    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Malaysian plane: 20 on board worked for electronic warfare and radar defence
    company with the Father George Bush Carlyle Group as shareholders


    Freescale Semiconductor, which makes powerful microchips for industries including
    defence, released the powerful new products to the American market on March 3.
    Five days later, Flight MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing with 239
    people on board including 20 working for Freescale. Twelve were from Malaysia,
    while eight were Chinese nationals.Freescale’s spokesman Mitch Haws has
    said: “These were all people with a lot of experience and technical background and
    they were very important people. “It’s definitely a loss for the company.”
    ...
    ...

    Experts have been baffled how a large passenger jet seems to have flown
    undetected and possibly beaten military radar systems for up to six hours.
    Avoiding radar via “cloaking technology” has long been one of the objectives of the
    defence industry and Freescale has been active developing chips for military radar.
    I have not read the conspiracy theories, but one thing that suggests itself from the above - I don't know if this is even possible - is that cloaking technology was actually being transported on board and put into service, an array of some sort big enough to require the luggage of 20 people.

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    How relevant is that technology to existing systems?

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    ((HANDLERS & MIND CONTROL))...???



    Mystery call made before Flight...

    March 23, 2014



    MH370 Report claims woman with fake ID contacted pilot

    Quote The Mail On Sunday claims the call was one of the last on Captain Zahaire Ahmed Shah's mobile phone before the ill-fated flight left the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur on March 8.
    Quote In this case the SIM card used to call Captain Shah's phone was traced to a shop in Kuala Lumpur and had been purchased recently by a woman using a false identity.
    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/201...to-mh370-pilot
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    Quote I have not read the conspiracy theories, but one thing that suggests itself from the
    above - I don't know if this is even possible - is that cloaking technology was actually being
    transported on board and put into service, an array of some sort big enough to require the
    luggage of 20 people.
    I don't know , but they usually ask for motives and if true this is a big one below ...

    %100 ownership for the Freescale Semiconductor company , and if they are
    backed by bigger players IE mil ind corporations or the CIA /Pentagon
    landing at Diego Garcia on the simulator may have greater meaning....


    Quote “Patents Patents Patents.

    “Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office,
    four of the five Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor
    of Austin TX.

    “Patent is divided up on 20 per cent increments to five holders.

    “Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20 per
    cent); Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20
    per cent); Freescale Semiconductor (20 per cent).

    “If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of
    the deceased if not disputed in a will.

    “If four of the five dies, then the remaining one Patent holder gets 100 per cent of
    the wealth of the patent.

    “That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.”

    It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese
    members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.

    “Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their
    heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane
    went missing, the patent had not been approved.”
    Last edited by Cidersomerset; 23rd March 2014 at 14:26.

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Quote I have not read the conspiracy theories, but one thing that suggests itself from the
    above - I don't know if this is even possible - is that cloaking technology was actually being
    transported on board and put into service, an array of some sort big enough to require the
    luggage of 20 people.
    I don't know , but they usually ask for motives and if true this is a big one below ...

    %100 ownership for the Freescale Semiconductor company , and if they are
    backed by bigger players IE mil ind corporations or the CIA /Pentagon
    landing at Diego Garcia on the simulator may have greater meaning....


    Quote “Patents Patents Patents.

    “Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office,
    four of the five Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor
    of Austin TX.

    “Patent is divided up on 20 per cent increments to five holders.

    “Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20 per
    cent); Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20
    per cent); Freescale Semiconductor (20 per cent).

    “If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of
    the deceased if not disputed in a will.

    “If four of the five dies, then the remaining one Patent holder gets 100 per cent of
    the wealth of the patent.

    “That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.”

    It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese
    members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.

    “Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their
    heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane
    went missing, the patent had not been approved.”
    The patent argument is a 'software' issue as to why the plane was interfered with. The onboard cloaking technology would be a 'hardware' issue explaining how it came to disappear.

    These two things may be complementary to each other, or it may be that the 'patent' side, patent in the sense of being advertised, is there to conceal the 'latent' side.

    Or again: both the above. But the financial question seems to me rather secondary since the shadow government is drowning in funny money as it is. This may have been some kind of sales demo.

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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    Oooopsss... another blunder:

    Malaysia backtracks on when jet’s communications were disabled

    KEITH BRADSHER and CHRISTOPHER BUCKLEY
    SEPANG, MALAYSIA — The New York Times News Service
    Published Monday, Mar. 17 2014, 11:17 PM EDT
    Last updated Wednesday, Mar. 19 2014, 7:13 PM EDT

    [...]

    Malaysian authorities said Monday that the plane’s first officer – the co-pilot – was the last person in the cockpit to speak to ground control. But the government added to the confusion about what had happened on the plane by that time, withdrawing its assertion that a crucial communications system had already been disabled when the co-pilot spoke.

    Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia’s Defence Minister and acting transportation minister, had made that assertion Sunday, saying that the jet’s Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or ACARS, was disabled at 1:07 a.m. Saturday, well before the co-pilot’s verbal sign-off. That appeared to point to possible complicity of the pilots in the plane’s disappearance.

    But Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, the chief executive of Malaysia Airlines, said at a news conference Monday evening that the ACARS system had worked normally at 1:07 but then failed to send its next regularly scheduled update at 1:37 a.m., and could have been disabled at any point between those two times. “We don’t know when the ACARS system was switched off,” he said.

    The new account appeared to reopen the possibility that the aircraft was operating normally until 1:21 a.m., and that the two communications systems failed or were deactivated at the same time, not at separate points. That could raise additional questions about whether the plane was deliberately diverted.

    [...]

    Full article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle17538367/

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Which one is less likely to lie?

    Quote That could raise additional questions about whether the plane was deliberately diverted.
    This one gives out what MSM intends readers to believe...

    Since the new acknowledged fact raises questions about any and all the scenari; not that particular, singled out, one.
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    Quote Posted by Roisin (here)
    How relevant is that technology to existing systems?
    hang on, let me pull up schematics...

    where's my dang Klingon manual...

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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Oooopsss... another blunder:

    Malaysia backtracks on when jet’s communications were disabled

    KEITH BRADSHER and CHRISTOPHER BUCKLEY
    SEPANG, MALAYSIA — The New York Times News Service
    Published Monday, Mar. 17 2014, 11:17 PM EDT
    Last updated Wednesday, Mar. 19 2014, 7:13 PM EDT

    [...]

    Malaysian authorities said Monday that the plane’s first officer – the co-pilot – was the last person in the cockpit to speak to ground control. But the government added to the confusion about what had happened on the plane by that time, withdrawing its assertion that a crucial communications system had already been disabled when the co-pilot spoke.

    Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia’s Defence Minister and acting transportation minister, had made that assertion Sunday, saying that the jet’s Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or ACARS, was disabled at 1:07 a.m. Saturday, well before the co-pilot’s verbal sign-off. That appeared to point to possible complicity of the pilots in the plane’s disappearance.

    But Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, the chief executive of Malaysia Airlines, said at a news conference Monday evening that the ACARS system had worked normally at 1:07 but then failed to send its next regularly scheduled update at 1:37 a.m., and could have been disabled at any point between those two times. “We don’t know when the ACARS system was switched off,” he said.

    The new account appeared to reopen the possibility that the aircraft was operating normally until 1:21 a.m., and that the two communications systems failed or were deactivated at the same time, not at separate points. That could raise additional questions about whether the plane was deliberately diverted.

    [...]

    Full article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle17538367/

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Which one is less likely to lie?

    Quote That could raise additional questions about whether the plane was deliberately diverted.
    This one gives out what MSM intends readers to believe...

    Since the new acknowledged fact raises questions about any and all the scenari; not that particular, singled out, one.
    Yesterday on Belgian news they talked about the plane that went missing on the 8th of March.

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    Another reply from afar: (I actually believe the Diego Garcia theory of landing it via non-interruptive auto-pilot to get the science and control of patents - follow the MONEY!!!)
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03...us-conspiracy/



    MH-370 Shoot Down – the Plot Thickens
    On March 13, 2011 Veterans Today said they could prove Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 was “on the ground.” The mainstream media had sighted wreckage but families were calling passengers on the “downed jet” and those phones were ringing, an impossibility.
    We are now certain that we are dealing with a “black op” at the highest level. This fact alone surprises no one. The more important issue is the ramifications of accepting this inexorable fact.
    Today, nobody doubts flight 370’s globetrotting ordeal. However, the real story is so big it can and will never be told though, as with similar mysteries such as 9/11, we can expect and implausible fairy tale to emerge and receive official recognition. Only the dead will know the truth.
    The following excerpt is from a retired US Air Force Colonel who currently flies the Boeing 777/200 for a major airline:
    “Just a quick update with what I know about the Malaysia 777 disappearance. The Boeing 777 is the airplane that I fly. It is a great, safe airplane to fly. It has, for the most part, triple redundancy in most of its systems, so if one complete system breaks (not just parts of a system), there are usually 2 more to carry the load. It’s also designed to be easy to employ so 3rd world pilots can successfully fly it. Sometimes, even that doesn’t work…
    There’s many ways to fly the 777 and there are safety layers and redundancies built into the airplane now to Malaysia. There are so many communication systems on the airplane: 3 VHF radios, 2 SatCom systems, 2 HF radio systems, plus Transponders and active, ‘real time’ monitoring through CPDLC (Controller to Pilot Data Link Clearance) and ADS B (Air Data Service) through the SatCom systems and ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) thru the VHF, HF and SatCom systems.
    The air traffic controllers can tell where we are, speed, altitude, etc. as well as what our computers and flight guidance system has set into our control panels. Big Brother for sure! However, most of these things can be turned off.”
    ______________________________
    But, there are a few systems that can’t be turned off and one is the engine monitoring systems. The Malaysia airplane, like our 777-200’s, uses Rolls Royce Trent Engines (as a piece of trivia….Rolls Royce names their motors after rivers….because they always keep on running!) Rolls Royce leases these motors to us and they monitor them all the time they are running.
    In fact, a few years back, one of our 777’s developed a slow oil leak due and partial equipment failure. It wasn’t bad enough to set off the airplane’s alerting system, but RR was looking at it on their computers. They are in England, they contact our dispatch in (REDACTED), Dispatch sends a message to the crew via SatCom in the North Pacific, telling them that RR wants them to closely monitor oil pressure and temp on the left engine.
    The crew did all of that and landed uneventfully, but after landing and during the taxi in, the left engine shut itself down using it’s redundant, computerized operating system that has a logic tree that will not allow it to be shut down if the airplane is in the air…only on the ground. Pretty good tech. Anyway, the point was that RR monitors those engines 100% of the time they are operating. And don’t EVER get in an Airbus!!”
    This system was monitored for at least 5 hours after the plane was initially reported as crashed, a reporting error that was not accidental. In order to look at this story, you have to answer the right questions. Sometimes the right questions aren’t the best questions; they are just the only ones you can answer.
    The “mystery” of flight 370 subjected to the analytical tools of intelligence professionals proves the existence of a multi-national, super-governmental conspiracy. This is a broad statement, seemingly even a wild assumption. It is not.
    The “370 incident” provides foundation for understanding not just 9/11 but the interlocking mosaic of staged revolutions, economic collapses, theatrical mass killings and the systematic brain-washing of generations.
    You see, “disappearing” an airliner today is beyond impossible, beyond any magic trick. When the impossible is accomplished once, accepting it has been done before; that it is done continually is no longer conjecture.
    Normally, crimes include three components, “means, motive and opportunity.” We will never know why 370 was taken, why the passengers and crew were killed. Anyone who knows and who would speak of it would be as dead as those on the plane. What we have to accept is that there are questions that the answers to are simply unimaginable.
    We have to deal with what we know and what that means. We know that an airliner was taken, flown thousands of miles. We have surmised that the plane was landed on Diego Garcia, the bodies removed and disposed. As for what cargo was removed, asking is futile.
    It certainly wasn’t “lithium ion” batteries as being reported today, not hardly.
    We know these things for certain:
    Those responsible are terrorists fully sanctioned by multiple governments with broad control over the international press
    The willingness to do something this brazen is very real proof this isn’t the first time. It brings everything claimed to have occurred on 9/11/2001 not only in question but clearly establishes both capability and intent. If “they” did it now, they did it then and will do it again if “they” wish.
    Recent plans for terrorist attacks against Ukrainian Air Force facilities, as outlined in emails intercepted and published by “Anonymous Ukraine” show identical intent and nearly identical capability.
    Modern airliners cannot disappear. They can’t be hijacked or stolen, not without the full involvement of a SOCOM or Special Operations Command with the ability to control news reporting, suppress not just radar but sensor data, so much data that only a very few have a remote idea of how outlandish this story is.
    We have already heard, first hand, how the plane tracks itself in ways that can’t be turned off. Thus, we know the team at Rolls Royce can tell us within 30 yards of where the engines were first turned off yet they have never said a word.
    I accept this as proof that a British intelligence agency is very much a part of the fate of flight 370. This is now “a given.” Four nations have the capability of tracking Malayan Airlines Flight 370. In fact, disabling the planes communications is an impossibility.
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    TRACKING THE UNTRACKABLE
    Everything on this planet is subject to what is called “Layered ISR.” ISR stands for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance. By “layered” we refer to satellites, starting with geosynchronous orbit down to LEO, or “Low Earth Orbit.”
    These satellites monitor the entire electromagnetic spectrum and include SAR (Synthetic Aperture Capability). Everything that moves, on land or sea, under the sea, even underground, is watched and listened to.
    Below this are nano-sensors that are sustained in the upper atmosphere. I won’t even begin to explain what these do but their function is “hyperspatial” rather than “hyperspectral.”When we talk “hyperspatial” we make physicists cringe.
    Everything below this is watched, monitored or sensed. You have to realize that we don’t really need radar. Our entire atmosphere is an electromagnetic soup, a “sea” as it were of Wi-Fi signals, AM radio, particle emissions, a million sources, all reflected, slowed, absorbed or amplified, painting a very complete picture of anything that moves. All is sensed, recorded, examined by complex algorithms for anomalous behaviors that represent “threats.”
    Planes don’t disappear; a gnat has trouble “disappearing.”
    Immediately after the plane “disappeared,” a working team was put together headed by Lt. Colonel Stephen Avery, former USAF SOCOM pilot and retired security chief for a major airline. Aiding Steve heading up the inquiry is former Supervising Special Agent Frederick Coward (ret) who headed FBI operations for Asia.
    Coordinating the team with active intelligence agencies, “official” and, by far the more effective private resources of Adamus Defense Group, was Operation Chief Colonel James Hanke, former G2 of Third Army, a retired Special Forces intelligence officer.
    What we found was astounding. To put this in context, we looked back at 9/11 when CNN, at the scene of the Pentagon “whatever” was unable to find any proof an airplane had been there at all. See.
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    PRELIMINARY FINDINGS
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    An official cover-up began as soon as the plane went off course. All subsequent reporting was part of a conspiracy. The location of the plane for the 5 or more hours after it “crashed” was known, its speed, its altitude, and more.
    If any of the multiple systems on the plane that could be turned off were turned off that, in itself, would have yielded data. Which system was turned off first? How long between turning off systems? Where was the plane when the systems were turned off?
    Why didn’t ground controllers attempt to contact the plane when systems were turned off, particularly when we now know for certain that other systems were on and it was now known that the plane was in flight?
    A real investigation would outline what was known, who knew it, when they knew it and why they failed to behave in a manner consistent with procedure, consistent with common sense and inconsistent with criminal complicity in a major act of terrorism.
    This last list includes hundreds of people in dozens of nations. The crime they can now be investigated for involves the disappearance and assumed murder of hundreds of people.
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    Several folks have been asking me for my opinions about this affair. (Silentfeathers being the most recent. Thanks, Jim! )

    Here's what I can add, if indeed it's worth much at this stage: (And even after what feels like all this time, this might be quite an early stage.)
    • As less and less appears to makes simple sense, it's more and more likely that the ultimate explanation will be one of high strangeness (or high intrigue).
    • I *feel* (and it's always possible I may be quite wrong -- it's not totally out of the question that we'll find out quite soon) that the huge search for the satellite-spotted debris in the Southern Ocean is all a distraction/diversion. This may be intended as fodder for the mainstream media, to stop their more astute and un-bought investigators turning over stones in other places. And if we're told even by honest journalists that the debris has been found, it might be challenging now to take such a report at face value.
    • Diego Garcia was one of the immediate destinations I thought of. It was within range, just. Camelot whistleblower 'Henry Deacon' talked of the place often. And it seems highly significant that it was one of the deleted practice destinations on the pilot's flight simulator (this seems to be a fact). Of course, the US would deny/ridicule that the plane flew there (and has), and no-one might ever know for sure. It does strike me as potentially significant that in the 24/7 headline coverage on CNN, Diego Garcia has as best I know NEVER been mentioned in reports or in any interviews. It's like they've been ordered not to mention the place under any circumstances.
    • Besides the various interesting claims made on Veterans Today (and other sites), it's interesting to note that Erik Rush says here that he knows for a fact that the plane flew to Diego Garcia. At much the same time, a caller into C2C stated that he knew for a fact that it ended up in Pakistan. It's conceivable that both could be valid, but it's a stretch. But at this stage, whatever happened has to be a stretch by 'normal' standards.
    • Besides the interesting insights into the engine-monitoring capabilities of Rolls-Royce, it's almost impossible to believe (whether the US is directly involved/implicated or not) that the US high-tech surveillance apparatus doesn't know exactly where the plane is, and always has. They could find a beetle in my bedroom if they wanted to. They can read minds if they want to! But their not coming clean might simply mean that they don't want to disclose what they can do. And that info will be very highly compartmentalized... this does not mean that (for instance) Obama, FBI or CAA investigators, or US search teams, know anything about what the black project guys know.
    (to be continued, I'm sure...)

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    Glad to hear you weighing in here Bill, but here’s where I part company with Erik Rush’s thesis:

    Quote Posted by Erik Rush
    So what went wrong? Well, apparently the DOD got wind that these engineers (who, despite operating under the auspices of Freescale and/or other companies, were not American nationals) were on their way to abscond to China with their prototypes (which were in the cargo hold of the 777) and other valuable materials, thereby cutting the US out of the program entirely.
    Who needs a physical prototype anymore? These days, the original plans or designs can be stashed anywhere, capable of reconstructing a zillion prototypes. A single physical model would hardly be the one-and-only. The design and creation of something “interesting” – if it involved even two of the Freescale engineers - would inevitably require a collaborative trail of some kind, even if only on plain old notepaper, but more likely on NSA-hackable computers. Machining the viable prototype would presume test data from somewhere. These things don’t spring up all at once.

    And BTW, the Freescale employees returning to Beijing were already resident there, as I understand. So what’s the ‘defecting’ thing?

    And, if stealing the protype – or Freescale’s information – was the goal here, why not just kidnap the needed parties on the ground, on their way to the airport, break into their hotel rooms – even take a few ‘hostages’ at the conference they were attending…? Why take down an entire aircraft? Doesn’t add up for me. But I could be wrong, of course.

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    No one within our Filipino (gold rendition) network has any indication from their Diego Island contacts (which is extensive) that the MH370 plane landed there...at any time. Diego Garcia therefore may be a follow-on target, and their command was contacted alerting them to the same, though any given scenario at this point is unlikely to prove accurate...until it happens.

    Meanwhile, keep an eye on SYRIA...

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    Please don't mind .. 'Diego Garcia' is one airforce emergency code . I think they simply puffed to the thin air ..

    I mean , they couldn't really puff to thin air . It has nothing to do with any island in my view ..



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    A few further thoughts:

    One of the interesting ‘magic words’ missing in this search has been: submarines.

    Submarines are the Great Nonexistent, even though everybody has them. Where have they been on this hunt? Who better to detect a ping from a transponder now under water? (If so...) Or metal? Especially the big US and Russian versions; heaven knows what the Chinese have. They’re probably stumbling over each other out there right now...

    Another card on the table:

    I think it is quite true that US sensors can detect the beetle under your bed, and more. But the risk to the US of inadvertently revealing any secret technology thereby is far greater than the ‘mere’ loss of 239 lives. Peanuts, in black ops league.

    However, China is now struggling with great loss of face [prestige] over its inability to find its own citizens. This presents a strategic diplomatic opportunity for the US: we’ll secretly help you locate the craft, in exchange for..... you get the idea. The delay here could be due to some ‘very interesting’ behind the scenes negotiations.

    Just a few thoughts.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Posted by Selene (here)
    Another card on the table:

    I think it is quite true that US sensors can detect the beetle under your bed, and more. But the risk to the US of inadvertently revealing any secret technology thereby is far greater than the ‘mere’ loss of 239 lives. Peanuts, in black ops league.
    Perhaps that's what this whole thing may be about to some degree, not so much revealing technology, but merely just a demonstration of a certain technology.....a gruesome demonstration to say the least. (Someone is being warned)
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by Selene (here)
    I think it is quite true that US sensors can detect the beetle under your bed, and more. But the risk to the US of inadvertently revealing any secret technology thereby is far greater than the ‘mere’ loss of 239 lives. Peanuts, in black ops league.
    Perhaps that's what this whole thing may be about to some degree, not so much revealing technology, but merely just a demonstration of a certain technology.....a gruesome demonstration to say the least. (Someone is being warned)
    According to my Poll on MH370, the hijacking via remote by a nefarious group who flew the plane to Diego Garcia or some other location, is the most likely scenario. The point that these individuals are so far up the food chain, the reasons so insidious and so globally geopolitical, the technology so exotic, that we will never know.

    Most people have no idea who runs the world or how, and have no idea what technology exists and is available. This incident falls into the "high strangeness" category in that it is way outside the norm for what the general public even realizes is possible. The perpetrators know exactly what happened and why, and where the plane is. That level of power and control on this planet is inconceivable to most.

    Suffice it to say, regardless of not knowing anything after two weeks, this incident points to something very huge. It probably will connect as a dot once more variables can be added globally as the next chess moves in the "big game" occur.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Several folks have been asking me for my opinions about this affair. (Silentfeathers being the most recent. Thanks, Jim! )

    Here's what I can add, if indeed it's worth much at this stage: (And even after what feels like all this time, this might be quite an early stage.)
    • As less and less appears to makes simple sense, it's more and more likely that the ultimate explanation will be one of high strangeness (or high intrigue).
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    • Besides the various interesting claims made on Veterans Today (and other sites), it's interesting to note that Erik Rush says here that he knows for a fact that the plane flew to Diego Garcia. At much the same time, a caller into C2C stated that he knew for a fact that it ended up in Pakistan. It's conceivable that both could be valid, but it's a stretch. But at this stage, whatever happened has to be a stretch by 'normal' standards.
    • Besides the interesting insights into the engine-monitoring capabilities of Rolls-Royce, it's almost impossible to believe (whether the US is directly involved/implicated or not) that the US high-tech surveillance apparatus doesn't know exactly where the plane is, and always has. They could find a beetle in my bedroom if they wanted to. They can read minds if they want to! But their not coming clean might simply mean that they don't want to disclose what they can do. And that info will be very highly compartmentalized... this does not mean that (for instance) Obama, FBI or CAA investigators, or US search teams, know anything about what the black project guys know.
    (to be continued, I'm sure...)
    Hi Bill,
    This is a huge thread and difficult to keep up with all the input. But as far as I know Diego Garcia was mentioned at least once in the MSM. It was apparently one of the landing destinations programmed into the pilots flight simulator! For me as well Diego Garcia seems significant.

    Quote Quote "Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/220...lator-reports/

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