A Fealty Pledge to Your Nation? Is that wise?

[Dawn]

When I was a little 5 year old girl I was taught the Pledge of Allegiance, and was made to Pledge every day before starting class. Here are the words to this Pledge

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Here is what Wikipedia says about the meaning of this Pledge:

The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an expression of fealty to the federal flag and the republic

Now this is not an innocent or ill conceived thing on the part of the US Government for what is really happening here is a form of feudalism. Here is what Wikipedia says about a fealty pledge:

In medieval Europe, this took the form of an oath from a vassal, or subordinate, to the lord. It also referred to the duties incumbent upon a vassal that were owed to the lord, which consisted of service and aid.[1] One part of the oath of fealty included swearing to always remain faithful to the lord. The oath of fealty usually took place after the act of homage, when, by the symbolic act of kneeling before the lord and placing the vassals hands between the hands of the lord, the vassal became the "man" of the lord. Usually, the lord also promised to provide for the vassal in some form, either through the granting of a fief or by some other manner of support.[2] Typically the oath is made upon a religious object such as a Bible or saint's relic, often contained within an altar, thus binding the oath-taker before God. Fealty and homage are a key element of feudalism.

What is even more interesting is that the pledge was updated in 1945 with the words

one Nation under God

As far as I can tell from my research a 'Nation' is a bloodline. So, considering that the population of the United States comes from all over the planet... what bloodline are we pledging to?

So, we are in a feudalistic society working as vassals for our Bloodline (Masters?).... well that about sums up the view the US government seems to have, based on its behavior towards the citizenry.

I think by now most Avalonians are aware that making an oath, participating in a ceremony, or pledging fealty, is a form of a contract and has serious long term consequences. These contracts can bind us virtually ‘forever’ or until we revoke them.

I’d like to invite other Avalonians to look at the pledges they may have made to various organizations, nations, and countries. Do you really wish to now support the things you may have supported in past ceremonies, before you were aware of the far reaching consequences?

Perhaps we should cancel and revoke such contracts and our agreement with them.

[Gerald Paris]

It is my opinion that asking a child to pledge allegiance to a mental concept represented by patterned cloth.... is .......brainwashing....and magic...and irresponsible.

jussayn


I agree that we should think about what we ask of our children.

Much Love

G

[Dawn]

Gerald:
I agree that we should think about what we ask of our children.

As I see it in this moment there is more to this than meets the eye.... It is about the children but it is more about all the adults who participated in a ritual and who are now bound by their oaths of fealty through this ceremony. It is important to 'undo' our participation in this so that the contracts we entered into will be cancelled.

And it isn't just in the USA that this is an issue. Here is a really creepy oath demanded certain officials in Australia:

In Australia the Oath of Allegiance and the Affirmation of Allegiance are oaths of allegiance made to the monarch of Australia. Both are defined by the Constitution of Australia.[1]
Certain public office holders in Australia such as the Governor General and members of both houses of federal parliament are required to make one of the oaths.[2] The words of both the oath and affirmation are attached as a schedule to the Constitution.[1][3]
The Oath of Allegiance reads as follows:
I, A.B., do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, Her heirs and successors according to law. So Help Me God.
The Affirmation of Allegiance reads as follows:
I, A.B., do solemnly and sincerely affirm and declare that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, Her heirs and successors according to law.

Really? Her Majesty Queen Victoria! It seems pretty clear that she is a reptilian. Strange oath don't you think?

[Shezbeth]

Brainwashing and magic, that's precisely what it is. I agree with both of you, Dawn and Gerald. I also recall the years of rote recitation of the pledge of allegiance, never fully understanding what I was doing. Not only is the pledge a form of brainwashing toward fealty and such of the country/government, it is also a very subtle form of coercion, thought-policing, and group-think indoctrination.

The teacher represents the authority, just as does the flag which represents the authority that stands over the teacher. It is very easy for a child to unconsciously transfer any perception of authority towards a teacher to this thing that the teacher perceives and regards as an authority. Since the teacher is one who issues discipline in the classroom, children come to recognize that not obeying the teacher will result in punishment, and the same concept is subliminally conveyed regarding higher authorities, regardless of any of the legitimacy (or lack) inherent in the perceived authority.

Simply put, the teacher is entitled to tell the children what to do, else there are consequences. Since the teacher is doing what the flag/govt wants them to do, it is a very simple step to perceive that the flag/govt 'is entitled' to tell the teacher what to do else there will be consequences. Not only that, but that this is the 'correct' way of doing things in a 'structured, civilized' society. Screw the 'Big Brother' posters, we've got the pledge and the flag!

For the record when I say authority in this case, I am being coy. Alas, I wasn't aware enough of what was going on when I was a tyke to do the following, but picture this if you will.

What would happen to a child who refused to pledge allegiance? I speculate that such a child would be marked by the teacher, and likely their peers, as being both different and a problem. Disciplinary measures would be attempted, conferences with teachers, councilors, the school principle(s) (all landing in some form of permanent record I would guess). Actually, I needn't speculate because this is precisely what occurred to Jaques Fresco, the brain behind the Venus project. He was kicked out of grade school, essentially for his unwillingness to follow orders as a child IIRC.

So, not only does the pledge condition and program those who are compliant, it is also serves as an inherent tool for identifying children with a predisposition for dissent, in whatever manner the dissent is decidedly responded to.

Furthermore, the school-pledge is only the first step in this process! How many children's groups involve further participation in such rituals, where the child's participation is incumbent on the pledge and/or other forms of oaths, vows, etc.? I personally participated in a youth Masonic fraternity (which shall remain nameless) that maintains the practice of the US pledge, as well as some very long (and at the outset of initiation, largely incomprehensible given the theatrics) oaths and pledges to other ideas and concepts that I very much did not understand/appreciate the gravity of.

Here's another thing. I doubt that this is a phenomenon outside the US, but within it's commonly referred to as "The pledge of allegiance", as though any other pledge, oath, or affirmation is subsequent and less significant. Almost as if to say:

"Yeah, you can pledge to all kinds of things, but only after pledging to the flag. That's the most important one."

Thanks for the thread Dawn. ^_^

[Dawn]

Here's an interesting oath required in Canada, where citizens swear fealty to Queen Elizabeth also:

Oath of Citizenship (Canada)

I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.

[Ellisa]

Australia has no one 'oath' and each state or territory, as well as the federal government has a very slightly different one. Each promises, in very simple terms, to be loyal or swear allegiance to variously, The Queen (and sometimes her successors), (Elizabeth not Victoria), the people of Australia or just Australia and so on. Some have god built in, bit others leave him/her/it out, and all secular oaths in Australia can omit god and the promiser can just affirm. Altogether there about 10 official forms of oath taking, including a rather nice version for new citizens of the country. You are also able to not swear if you wish to do so, and some religions or conscientious objectors choose to abstain.

There was talk of abandoning the oaths in Parliament, but they didn't get enough support. Schools stopped the procedure for a while but the incoming more conservative party reintroduced it. So the kids still do a vague oath to the country but no longer have to promise to obey their teachers in the new oath!! Every school was given a flag which they then hoist up the newly aquired flag pole. The National Anthem is then 'sung'. This stirring ceremony happens on Monday mornings in most schools.

[sigma6]

Ah brilliant,

you are truly awakening Dawn. I have shared a few posts with the reference of the meaning of this or related concepts. Yes there is absolutely hidden legal interpretation, that is very specific, and yes it is designed to put you under the jurisdiction of the Corporation, who would be your "Lord" in this context. And yes you are making a pledge as a "citizen" of all the value contained in what the certificate ultimately makes reference to

Two immediate things that come to mind is an excellent "dissertation" on this very concept. Winston gives a detailed extrapolation of what the oath is really trying to do... (will have to dig it up and see if I can put out some links) The other you can check out is the concept of an oath. What that means and how it is being applied today without your knowing but putting you in a legal bind, which automatically gives the State complete jurisdiction over you because of your automatic breach... (notice how they apply these catch 22 in all legal interpretations... just another control mechanism)

This explains the relationship between signatures and how they are actually interpreted as a form of oath taking... it's genesis and origin and modern application today... As usual it's always about how they are trying to take control via contracts, trust interpretation (like breach of trust, which perjury is considered a form of ...) and so on...
http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08...vide-many-reme

[mosquito]

Totally agree. Forcing children to swear allegiance to a gaudy piece of cloth is child abuse.

And look at the problems it causes - generation after generation of Americans grow up believing that this particular piece of cloth is a religious object, and they happily go to war killing anyone and everyone who is perceived to be a threat to their cloth.

I didn't know other countries did the same. Ridiculous.

Swearing allegiance to a piece of cloth IS NOT the act of a conscious, awake, aware being, whatever of your nationality. I'd go further and say that swearing allegiance to ANYTHING or anyone is not the act of a conscious being. I find this world hard to believe sometimes.

[Robin]

When I was about nine years old, I was wise enough to know how manipulative and immoral reciting the pledge of allegiance was. At that age, I was still "Catholic," albeit an atheistic one who was only attending church because I was forced to.

When I was nine, I recited the first part with the whole class: I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, but every day I sat down and refused to say the second half: one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I did this because I was so morally against using the term "God" to equate for a single nation, which was responsible for so much destruction and immoral acts around the planet. Even at such a young age...I always knew.

After a year of only reciting half of the national anthem, I simply refused to recite it every morning. My teachers never seemed to notice, to be honest, so I don't know what they would have done if they saw me sit while the rest of class stood up like drones. If my teachers reprimanded me, there is no doubt that I would have resisted and would have schooled them on the moral degradation of America.

[8Adamas8]

Another thing about the pledge of allegiance it can be seen as a test for tptb of blind patriotic ignorance. It says "to the republic" but how many Americans who grew up in school saying that thing every morning still think America is a democracy. I would always have an involuntary neck jerk reaction when saying that part.

Here is one oath I regret taking.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

[Dawn]

8Adamas8: Here is one oath I regret taking.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

I totally understand. There is a healing modality based on helping you release yourself from past oaths and ceremonies called Holographic Kinetics. Here's the website: http://www.holographickinetics.com/ I'm going in for an appointment with someone who can help me do this work this week.

Meanwhile, there is a release I've used in the past. I usually do it repeatedly until I stop noticing an energetic change. It seems to set up a sort of expanding vortex of releasing energy which leaves me feeling freer and more expanded. It can take weeks for me to totally release a particular field of trapped thought and belief this way ... so be patient. It is something you could try. I do want to tell you that it comes from www.AccessConsciousness.com, where I took classes for a few years/

All the oaths, vows, fealties, comealties, contracts, promises, and agreements I made with ______,
I hearby revoke, renounce, denounce, utterly destroy and uncreate them.
Good and bad, POD and POC*, all 9, Shorts, Boys, and beyonds.

You can see that the wording of the above release is a bit strange. It is a sort of private ceremony all of its own. Here are a few crude definitions of the words as best as I can remember them

POD and POC: Point of origin and point of death come together so that the circle is complet
all 9: referrs to the 9 dimensions that we have created with out conscious thought
Shorts, Boys: this has to do with all the stories and explanations we have told ourselves about the situation
Beyonds: I think I remember that this has to do with all timelines

[conk]

Dawn, all, here is another tool for releasing old contracts, oaths, and pledges: http://www.quantumk.co.uk/quantumk_about.htm Experience the 23 minute screenflow application.

[genevieve]

Andrew Bartzis posted Soul Contract Revocations on his website (Andrew Bartzis.com) that revoke--you guessed it--soul contracts that we've made during our entire existence.

I found them to be very powerful.

http://galactichistorian.s3.amazonaw...ons%20full.pdf

Thanks for bringing this up, Dawn.


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve