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    Evil grows in darkness, in secrecy, in ignorance, in the shadows. Ignoring the potential and actual evil within ourselves is to give it the power to flourish unhindered. We create our reality, therefore the world is a projection of ourselves and also a reflection.

    If we deny evil by focusing on the positive we deny a part of ourselves.

    The demon needs to be named and seen for what it is. We cannot transform and heal what we do not know or refuse to accept.

    The mystic finds the light within the darkness.



    "Spiritual/New Age practitioners who endlessly affirm the light while ignoring the shadow are one more example of yet another style of falling under the spell of wetiko. It's a beautiful thing to visualize and affirm the light, just not as an unconscious or fearful reaction against the darkness. Many metaphysical "light workers" are actually caricatures of genuine spiritual practitioners, as in their affirmations of the light are unwittingly avoiding conscious relationship with the darkness within themselves. Thinking that they don't want to "feed the darkness" by putting their attention on it, in their turning away from and avoiding their own darkness, they are unwittingly reinforcing the very evil from which they are fleeing. Looking away from darkness, thus keeping it unconscious, is what evil depends upon for its existence. If we unconsciously react, as compared to consciously respond, to evil by turning a blind eye toward it - "seeing no evil" - we are investing the darkness with power over us."

    - Paul Levy, Dispelling Wetiko

    “The ability to hold Light is directly proportional to the courage to see darkness. Choosing to see just one creates distortions and illusions. It amazes me that something so simple and common sense can be so difficult to even discuss with ‘spiritual’ people who insist on remaining ‘positive’. Actually, this avoidance is based on unacknowledged fear that their inner light might be somewhat ‘dispersed’ by seeing darkness and therefore not giving the light much credit at all. I think there’s also fear that they might somehow become ‘tainted’ or the darkness might ‘manifest’ in some form in their lives. But the opposite is true; it is the fear, especially unacknowledged, that has much more chance to manifest than darkness exposed to daylight and investigation. Just like we must be fearless about our own inner shadow, we must also be fearless about seeing this huge shadow of humanity. Or we will have the power to transform precisely nothing, within or without.”

    - Anis Springate

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    For those who have not heard of of Wetiko. Here is an article by Paul Levy.

    Let's Spread the Word: Wetiko


    In the first part of this series, we contemplated the idea of a psycho-spiritual disease of the soul that has been wreaking havoc throughout human history that Native Americans call wetiko. In part two, we inquired into how the wetiko bug disrupts and deranges a living system, using the world financial system as our case study. The wetiko virus is like a parasite that literally feeds off, takes over and aberrates the curren(t)cy of the infected system. The wetiko pathogen originally manifests as a disturbance in the field of the collective unconscious of humanity itself, creating the psychic ley lines upon which world events are erected and energized. The origin of this virulent disease is to be discovered within the psyche (please see my article It's All in the Psyche). Because of the psychic nature of wetiko, it serves us to understand the psychological underpinnings of the virus, which is to say, how it affects our day to day relationships and lives. We begin to ‘see' the bug when we are able to get in focus and recognize ‘its' psychological signature in both ourselves and others. The fact that the source of the wetiko germ is within the psyche means that the cure for this disease lies hidden within the psyche as well.

    Wetiko psychosis is at the very root of humanity's inhumanity to itself in all its various forms. As a species, we need to step into and participate with our own spiritual and psychological evolution, which means that we must focus our attention on and contemplate this ‘topic of topics' before this virulent madness destroys us. Up until this point in our history we have been too easily distracted by the ruses of the wetiko bug itself. The disease itself is now demanding that we pay attention to it, or it will kill us. Its cure is the most pressing and fundamental issue facing us today. Author and environmental activist Derrick Jensen writes in his foreword to Jack D. Forbes book about wetiko psychosis, "Columbus and other Cannibals is, I think, the most important book ever written on one of the most important topics ever faced by human beings: why is the dominant culture so excruciatingly, relentlessly, insanely, genocidally, ecocidally, suicidally destructive?"[i] Historian Arnold Toynbee points out that a civilization doesn't die from being invaded from the outside, but unless it creates culture which nourishes the evolution of the creative spirit, a civilization invariably commits suicide. As if possessed, our civilization is, trance-like, sleepwalking in a death-march towards our own demise. The most pressing and inevitable question of our time is not just ‘why?' but more urgently, how can we stop this seemingly out-of-control, self-destructive, hell-bent part of ourselves?......

    The term wetiko is a Cree term (windigo in Ojibway, wintiko in Powhatan) which, to quote Forbes, refers to "an evil person or spirit who terrorizes other creatures by means of terrible evil acts."[ii] Wetikos are the human instruments for the transpersonal ‘spirit of evil' to terrorize the world. In wetiko disease, we unwittingly become drafted into being foot-soldiers in the war not ‘on,' but ‘of' and ‘for' terror. The wetiko parasite feeds on and harvests the emotions of fear and terror. Terror is the essence of its insidious ‘ill-usory ill-logic.' In wetiko disease, the psyche takes the ‘terror' that haunts it from within, and in its attempt to master it, unwittingly becomes taken over by it, thus becoming an instrument of terror in the world. We have then become the thing we most feared, ‘creatures of the European nightmare world,' as we psychologically terrorize ourselves, as well as terrorizing the world at large. Wetiko is the bug which feeds the experience of terror within our mind and out in the world, fueling one of its more prominent manifestations in our world today: the ‘Global War on Terror.'

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    Default Re: Working with the shadow.

    LoveofLife- TY. You have succinctly helped me to put shadow in a place of understanding. Now I can stop being confused re: holding the light. Didn't quite make sense how to work with the shadow of self by ignoring it. Seemed like sweeping the dirt under the carpet kind of thing. Thank you.

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    Quote Posted by raregem (here)
    LoveofLife- TY. You have succinctly helped me to put shadow in a place of understanding. Now I can stop being confused re: holding the light. Didn't quite make sense how to work with the shadow of self by ignoring it. Seemed like sweeping the dirt under the carpet kind of thing. Thank you.
    Thank you for your encouraging response.

    You may also be interested in this, it helped me tremendously. You will have to bear with his rants , though he does make his point most eloquently. Its an excellent expose of the parts of the new age that are the new religion created to replace the old and outworn ideas of the religions that we no longer accept because we see through them.

    Its a lot to take in i recommend watching it in bite sized pieces.


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    Thanks for the synchronicity. I discovered Paul Levy recently, and he has a lot of very useful and very profound information on his site, which I believe everyone should acquaint themselves with.

    I'm in the midst of ridding myself of what I can only describe as a hijacker - an energetic intrusion that has bee around for some time. It fits in perfectly with the Wetiko idea.

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    Working with the shadow is as much a part of healing and growth as is working in the light. Our shadow parts aren't evil, really, and can give us strength, resolve, and balance us out. We have to look at the shadow, see it for what it is and what it represents, and there are wonderful exercises designed to meet, have guidance with, and talk to our shadow selves and learn from them, embrace the strengths they represent, and welcome them as part of our balancing our energy. It's a wonderful process that not only eliminates the fear of the shadow, but brings that part into the light and heals it so we can use the strength without using the negatives, fear, anger, or whatever may be there. It can be profoundly healing, too. Those exercises are definitely worth the time and effort...awesome!

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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Thanks for the synchronicity. I discovered Paul Levy recently, and he has a lot of very useful and very profound information on his site, which I believe everyone should acquaint themselves with.

    I'm in the midst of ridding myself of what I can only describe as a hijacker - an energetic intrusion that has bee around for some time. It fits in perfectly with the Wetiko idea.
    Thank you mariposafe. I am encouraged to meet other courageous souls prepared to uncover the real lasting truth, the truth of ourselves, of who we truly are, not who we would like to be.

    I have a definition of denial used in recovery groups that helps me understand the insanity of our situation.

    Denial is an illness that tells me that i do not have an illness. It is usually the gift of pain that shatters the denial and allows me to see a part myself for who i am.

    My shadow is intangible yet it exists. Sometimes when the light is bright enough i can see it. One thing though is certain if i ignore it which i am prone to do, sooner or later it will find me. Then it is important to accept it and own it, embrace it and not slip back into denial.

    This horrible world that i find myself in, with poverty, war, famine, starvation, children dieing of hunger and more only a short plane ride away. Is also part of myself, i work on it by working on myself. If one person out of seven billion changes themselves, then the world is one seventh billionth the part better, it may seem insignificant to some, but it counts.

    As we work on ourselves accepting who we truly are we also affect the morphogenetic field through resonance. The hundredth monkey effect comes into play at critical mass. Whatever we do affects the whole as we are fractal parts of a holographic universe.

    Let us not also forget our greatness, our light, our empowerment of being an immortal spiritual being. Who we truly are is surely beyond our wildest imaginings. We also consign this part of ourselves to the shadow also as we are conditioned through thousands of year of religion and being ruled to feel small, powerless and believe that there is a saviour out there.

    We are the solution that we have been waiting for.

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    Quote Posted by Synchronicity (here)
    Working with the shadow is as much a part of healing and growth as is working in the light. Our shadow parts aren't evil, really, and can give us strength, resolve, and balance us out. We have to look at the shadow, see it for what it is and what it represents, and there are wonderful exercises designed to meet, have guidance with, and talk to our shadow selves and learn from them, embrace the strengths they represent, and welcome them as part of our balancing our energy. It's a wonderful process that not only eliminates the fear of the shadow, but brings that part into the light and heals it so we can use the strength without using the negatives, fear, anger, or whatever may be there. It can be profoundly healing, too. Those exercises are definitely worth the time and effort...awesome!
    Thank you for you insights on this subject. Do you have any links relating to this work that you mention? I for one would be interested.

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    Quote Posted by loveoflife (here)
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    Working with the shadow is as much a part of healing and growth as is working in the light. Our shadow parts aren't evil, really, and can give us strength, resolve, and balance us out. We have to look at the shadow, see it for what it is and what it represents, and there are wonderful exercises designed to meet, have guidance with, and talk to our shadow selves and learn from them, embrace the strengths they represent, and welcome them as part of our balancing our energy. It's a wonderful process that not only eliminates the fear of the shadow, but brings that part into the light and heals it so we can use the strength without using the negatives, fear, anger, or whatever may be there. It can be profoundly healing, too. Those exercises are definitely worth the time and effort...awesome!
    Thank you for you insights on this subject. Do you have any links relating to this work that you mention? I for one would be interested.
    I agree and second your post - if you know of any safe exercises to help reflect on our shadow, that would be a great help!

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    I am reminded of the story of the 2 wolves(?) that are fighting inside of every person, where the one that wins is the one most fed by the individual.

    I have always wondered why the wolves are depicted as fighting. In me, they are the best of friends.

    Thank you LoL for this thread, I absolutely agree with the subject and synopsis.

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    Quote Posted by loveoflife (here)
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    Working with the shadow is as much a part of healing and growth as is working in the light. Our shadow parts aren't evil, really, and can give us strength, resolve, and balance us out. We have to look at the shadow, see it for what it is and what it represents, and there are wonderful exercises designed to meet, have guidance with, and talk to our shadow selves and learn from them, embrace the strengths they represent, and welcome them as part of our balancing our energy. It's a wonderful process that not only eliminates the fear of the shadow, but brings that part into the light and heals it so we can use the strength without using the negatives, fear, anger, or whatever may be there. It can be profoundly healing, too. Those exercises are definitely worth the time and effort...awesome!
    Thank you for you insights on this subject. Do you have any links relating to this work that you mention? I for one would be interested.
    Well, I do it with my students in shamanic and Reiki classes. William Rand does it as well, but a bit differently than I do. http://www.reiki.org/reikinews/ShadowSelf.html https://www.reikiwebstore.com/Detail...6&CategoryID=4

    I teach my students to come to a bench, ask for a guide who will help them work with the shadow self, and then we ask an aspect of the shadow self to approach and work with it/him/her in specific ways that incorporate acknowledging how that part of us came about, including observing, being open to listening and respecting that part of ourselves, and opening up a dialogue that allows that part to share with us how it came about, what it represents, and that we can understand and learn to at least see that part as a necessary part of ourselves. Either during the journey or at a later time if needed, the person welcomes that part and embraces the strengths, takes responsibility for actions and feelings related to it, asks how s/he can help it/him/her come back to being an integral part of the person instead of a hated and feared shadow, and the results are profound. That particular example is similar to what he does, but I use others as well for advanced classes.

    I worked with and welcomed back during my own training the angry shadow that I was afraid of and felt I had to suppress and deny...I couldn't have all that anger and it wasn't who I was. But after working with that part of myself I learned that anger is my strength. I was reminded of how a tree fell on my fence during a storm one day and I was so angry that the fence was damaged that I lifted the tree off the fence without thinking! I learned that this shadow self...this ferocious anger that frightened me enough to hide it in the shadows and keep it a shameful secret (I associated anger with people being hurt since I saw it in my childhood)...was what kept me alive as a child and helped me stand up and get out of an unhealthy marriage later. That anger in that shadow was actually what kept me from giving up and what helped me protect my kids and others along the way. That shadow part taught me that my anger wasn't evil or scary, but triggered mainly by injustice and cruelty, by danger and the need to protect. Then, when I realized I created the shadow to hide that part of me from myself because I thought it was horrible and made me a bad person if I allowed myself to be really angry, and that it wasn't negative if I used it as it was intended from the beginning the whole picture shifted for me. Now I get angry without feeling scared or guilty and I can choose to let something go and release the anger with simple brushing off, or use it to make changes or for protection. It was very healing and a big shift for me.

    It was a wonderful experience and the journey/meditation (I do it differently depending on what class it is, the level of the students, how able they are to work with guides, and how emotionally/energetically healthy they are), and when I do it I am there with them and make sure everyone is being safe. We do it with the intention that they can do the same any time for any other shadow self they carry or ask me to help if they prefer. I can't speak for Rand's techniques, although I have used the recording he sells that I linked and it was useful to learn the framework and the idea of one type of technique to use.
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    Thank you synchronicity, i am also connected to the William Rand school of Reiki.

    Another way of acknowledging and owning the projection of our shadow onto others is 'The Work of Byron Katie'. This is described in the book 'Loving What Is'. Which is compared to the Zen method of self inquiry.

    She also has many videos on youtube and free downloads from her website.

    The Work of Byron Katie is a way of identifying and questioning the thoughts that cause all the anger, fear, depression, addiction, and violence in the world. Experience the happiness of undoing those thoughts through The Work, and allow your mind to return to its true, awakened, peaceful, creative nature.

    Are you ready? Everything you need in order to do The Work is available free on this website.

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    Thank you for this thread. This is exactly the place I am in at this time. However I do not resonate with using 'guides' or with seeing anger as me. I have done quite a bit of trauma release work and what I have found in every case is that trauma creates vortexes of energy and that portions of myself have actually been fractured into other realms, or into the outer portions of my energy field. It takes work to slowly release the energies caught in a trauma vortex, and the willingness to feel the tremendous emotional charges in such a vortex. The eventual result is that a portion of myself 'comes back in' and this portion is ALWAYS both powerful and, after being healed, is also peaceful and loving.

    At the same time there is value in being able to experience all frequencies which equate with various emotions without resistance. Emotions act as programs which dictate our life while they are present. For example... you do not even consider harming someone when you are experiencing the frequency of love. On the other hand, you never hug someone when you are angry. Emotions that are resisted become stuck ... so it is good to accept them.

    Often when trauma shatters parts of ourselves out of our field, negative entities take up residence in the empty spaces left in our field.

    But, an angry entity is not us, no matter what we think. It is either trauma energy that has been locked away from our consciousness or it is a separate species.

    Either Jinn, demon, reptilian, or other non-human interdimensional entities can, and do, take the opportunity to occupy our bodies whenever they can. What I find is the most effective tool in working with them is to simply love them. Even if I feel fear, I recognize that this is their resonance and not mine. I have spent a great deal of time using love and true compassion in order to work with these entities. In every case they respond eventually.

    It is more difficult working with entities that I have thought of as 'me' for much of my life. I suspect I have made unremembered agreements with the ones that are not willing to leave my body and space.

    I am dealing with something like this now, and will be seeking help this week from someone who has the ability to help me look at where I set up agreements with the darkness in the past. My experience is that we all need to help each other from time to time. This is love in action... when we see each other as strong and powerful, yet offer our support to help someone make change.

    I have helped others to work with the many shadow beings bothering them in the past. I NEVER used 'guides' of any type in doing this work. I only used love, and an intention to work in a way that would produce the most benefit for all concerned. I personally would be REALLY concerned to work with anyone who uses 'guides' for these are usually Jinn or reptile and very tricky.

    I am not saying I have all the answers here. In my experience, the answer changes from moment to moment so that it is not known except in the exact instant when action can be taken. There is one thing that is very clear to me... war with the dark forces never works.... the only answer is love and understanding of how and why things are the way they are.

    I guess I could make a couple of recommendations. Trauma is interesting because it is very difficult to release yourself. There are a number of modalities aimed at safely balancing the strong vortexes... there are also some which only stimulate more energy to be trapped within them. I've discovered that the work Peter Levine began is effective and you can locate a practitioner on his website: http://www.traumahealing.com/somatic...directory.html

    As for this next week ... I am taking the advice of several Avalonians and getting help from a student trained in Holographic Kinetics in my area. Here's the link for contacting the founder and asking for a referral: http://www.holographickinetics.com/
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    I really didn't say that I am an angry entity or that anyone is...that isn't what I was saying. What I am saying is related to what you said, Dawn. I had much anger for many reasonable reasons. I was hurt, I saw others hurt, and I was a child and felt powerless to stop it short of doing things that weren't acceptable to me. That anger wasn't an entity or anyone possessing me, but was part of me as a human being in a difficult situation. Yes, we do have sad, angry, scared, and other aspects of ourselves, and yes, that is part of who we are as humans. It doesn't mean it defines us. I am not an angry entity and emotions and the energy that comes with them aren't bad or good. The outcome and its effect on us depends on what we do that with anger, not whether we have it or not. I think sometimes (not meaning you in particular, Dawn, but in general) it seems more acceptable to compartmentalize anything we perceive or are taught to be "negative", when in fact it just isn't. It's what we do with it that can be positive or negative.

    Yes, when we are vulnerable other energy can attach to us...I agree with that. And yes, sometimes we need help to remove and release it. There are several ways to do that...I personally use shamanic techniques, Reiki and other energy work, and the firmness that comes from that protective "anger" that is indeed part of me. I'm not ashamed of it and it isn't an entity. Humans come in with emotions and the energy that comes with them, and I agree that aspects of ourselves can be shattered off and helping return them to a person is a wonderful experience because it can help him or her so much. I do not see anger as me, just to be clear. I simply know that is is a normal and sometimes helpful part of being human and nothing to hide or hide from.

    I also agree that many times simply loving and offering help to a part of ourselves or some energy/being/person/aspect/spirit is what helps the most. Sometimes a firmer stance is needed, but many times simply offering help and caring can make a big difference. I think it is wonderful that there are so many ways to look at this topic and that we can consider various methods and viewpoint to find what works for us.

    Dawn, really, you may have the experience in your life that anyone who works with guides is is working with Jinn or reptiles, but that just isn't true for all who work with guides. I am not saying it wouldn't be for some and I respect that you mean what you say sincerely, but working with guides can be a very, very safe and powerful way to help people and ourselves. It has been done as long as humans have walked the Earth and it just isn't really anywhere near usually trickery, and while it really wouldn't be a good idea for you to work with guides since you wouldn't feel comfortable or safe with them, I assure you that many, many people do safely and help many people. There are Reiki practitioners and people who call themselves shamans or shamanic practitioners who have no clue what they are doing and have unethical or unsafe intentions and techniques, but that goes for Western doctors, therapists, plumbers, holographic kinetics practitioners, and every other profession or group of humans. It comes down once again to choosing what modality resonates with the person needing help or wanting to learn, and there just isn't only one right way to find peace and healing. There are also excellent and ethical shamans and Reiki practitioners, other energy workers, and I'm sure holographic kinetics workers who really do help people and really do work with guides who are who they say they are or function in the ways they promise to with the practitioner. We can all be fooled, but just as I wouldn't say that there is no Jinn when I can't prove there isn't, I don't see how a person can say without a doubt that most or all of working with guides is people being fooled and bad things happening. Once again, we each have different ways to look at things...I would tell someone who is considering working with guides and who isn't sure how to proceed to find someone s/he feels is ethical and trained to do what the person needs.

    The three questions should always be asked before doing energy work and before removing, releasing, allowing, or opening up a flow of energy...

    May I? Do I have permission from this person to do what I am considering?
    Can I? Do I have the training and skills, the balance and clarity to do what I am considering safely?
    Should I? Even if I have permission and the skill and training, is this the right and best thing to do right now? Is with with pure intention and for the higher good of the person and not related to my ego or any other consideration but the best for the person?

    If the answer is maybe, no, or I'm not sure to any of those questions, then the answer is NO and stop. This applies to life in general for me personally, but for energy work I consider it essential.

    All I can say is that I have seen and experienced amazing healing, release, growth, and peace while working with guides. It isn't the first thing I tried and I have done other types of energy work, but this just plain can work and work well under the right circumstances. I have seen people go from misery and pain, fear and sadness to joy and freedom from healing that took place with the guidance of carefully requested guides, and these people (including me) aren't partially sort of okay with a lot still attached and hiding around. They really have done amazing work and moved forward in joy, health, and peace, so I just have a totally different frame of reference and will have to respectfully disagree. To agree I would have to dismiss so many wonderful changes and so much growth and change, and so I would say that I really hope your upcoming experience is everything you need and want, and I assure you I am not trying to argue with you for the sake of feeling right. Just as I wouldn't want to state that holographic kinetics is dangerous and never works and have people scared to try it, I wouldn't say that for several other modalities as well when I see value in using them safely. Good luck to you and I wish you peace from your traumas however you find it. I think we may not be so far apart as it might seem on the surface, but whatever the case I wish you peace.
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    Synchronicity wrote..>> (I associated anger with people being hurt since I saw it in my childhood)...was what kept me alive

    Synch- these words must be powerful for me to look into as I am so sad all of the sudden and fighting tears.
    Anger= violence and harm is going to come at me. That WAS/is my view and I had not linked the two -for life today. (All grown up) Thank you so much for now I have a focused point to work with and learn how to embrace the shadow of self. Great starting point for me. Through the years of clearing shadow there still is more to clear, apparently.

    I physically live with the injuries compounded through time and use from such incidences with angry people. ouch! lol
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    Thank you Syncronicity for such a well thought out and loving reply.

    For everyone here there is a path that they walk which is theirs alone. IMHO no teacher or book or modality works for all. I have used guides... which turned out to be a bad idea after some years, because they morphed into something else. In my case this was a good thing, because it forced me to turn back to myself as the ultimate authority. After all (speaking for me personally), why should something other than me be more knowledgeable and more powerful than I am?

    Moving into a place where I am the ultimate authority has demanded tremendous courage and a release of the thought that I am somehow 'not grown up' or 'not powerful'.

    I have been turning over and over this exact topic which you and I are discussing for I have seen so much in my life. My 3rd eye has been open for the past 20 years.

    In most people I meet, I see 'things' peeking out through their eyes... and these are never loving, kind, and benevolent. I have learned to see these entities and be neutral about them, for it is not my business to clear others... they have their own path. I have also seen uncountable numbers of demons, Jinn, reptilians, and many shape shifters in multiple guises... but again, these have never been benevolent. The stray ones who are not attached as parasites often nod their heads in recognition when they realize I can see them. Although they do not attack me, they have never resonated with the 'higher' emotions such as love and joy.

    I have 'healed' some entities using love, during sessions where I was being asked for help. One only (out of thousands) turned into a loving angelic being. The remainder stayed as they were, but dropped their need to be parasitic as old contracts were released. So.... since I have seen so many thousands and interacted with them directly... well that is why I question the idea of guides.

    I did have an interesting interaction with one about 17 years ago. It showed up as a companion who walked beside me one evening. I could only see out of the corner of my eyes, not by looking directly at it. After some time I asked it what it wanted from me, and it offered its services. It proposed to come into my body, and leave when I asked it to. It said that if I accepted its proposal, I would be able to perform miraculous healings and would become a famous healer with the ability to change the lives of many thousands. I felt it out energetically, and tried to figure out if it was trustworthy. It asked to come into my body for a few moments to allow me to experience what that would be like for me... promising to leave when asked, then it waited for my answer. The entity seemed polite and respectful, unlike others I'd met, so I agreed. Immediately I felt incredibly strong and powerful, I also experienced myself as 7ft tall. I was a bit tempted, however it seemed to me that I did not wish to live my life through the power of another. I chose to live and learn through my own powers without its help and assistance. It said to me 'I honor your choice', bowed and left. I am glad I chose to walk alone in this life... for me this was the right choice.

    Still, I have read books about demons and Jinn making agreements with very aware 'masters'. This has caused me to wonder if there are really any of these that might be somewhere on the 'good intention' side. I also understand that Jinn removed from people by an Imam in the Muslim tradition are given the choice to convert to Islam or be imprisoned forever. This is interesting and beyond my personal knowledge.
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    Synchronicity wrote..>> (I associated anger with people being hurt since I saw it in my childhood)...was what kept me alive

    Synch- these words must be powerful for me to look into as I am so sad all of the sudden and fighting tears.
    Anger= violence and harm is going to come at me. That WAS/is my view and I had not linked the two -for life today. (All grown up) Thank you so much for now I have a focused point to work with and learn how to embrace the shadow of self. Great starting point for me. Through the years of clearing shadow there still is more to clear, apparently.

    I physically live with the injuries compounded through time and use from such incidences with angry people. ouch! lol
    Yes, I saw it that way and changed how I dealt with people and myself. When I welcomed the anger out of the shadow and into the light I saw that it's wasn't violence and aggression, evil and shameful, hurting others as I had always experienced anger from others. Being an empath means I feel it physically when someone is angry, and growing up with anger blasting toward me when I was young was so painful, frightening, and overwhelming that I thought all anger was violent and out of control. I thought it was the nature of that particular beast and that if I felt anger, admitted that I was angry as a child when I was harmed or saw others harmed, that it meant I was carrying that evil aggression and was just like them. It took many years of healing and then working with that particular shadow to see it for what it was. The anger was my motivation as a child to keep standing back up when knocked down or to stand between the abuser and the less able to defend themselves other victims. It was the same energy/part of myself that stood between my child and the abuser and said NO! I saw that anger in my eyes in a childhood picture, and after much work with this shadow self I saw that expression as a message to the universe that I was not giving up and wouldn't be broken or allow others to be hurt when I could stop it. I had been afraid it would explode and rage if I allowed it to come into the light, but when I saw it I saw where it came from and what it really was.

    I also thought that avoiding anger and angry people would keep me safe, but instead it walled off a part of me that I needed and made me passive and a target instead of safe. When I worked with my shadow self and saw the anger in the light I saw how that little spunky me was able to stand up to much bigger people and live through things that I wouldn't have without it. And I saw how anger isn't always bad, dangerous, and scary..it was so profound for me that I grabbed that shadow self and hugged it tightly!

    You know, the funny thing is that when I welcomed that shadow self into the light I saw the big picture of how it all fit in and how it was just one more part of me and everyone else...not something to control a person, but a tool to use for motivation and protection. It lost that power of shame and secrecy, and I found I could start being assertive and not a pushover, and that I also realized that it was freed and I was at peace finally. That and some other shadow self work was life-changing and amazing! I may carry scars, but I also know how to protect myself and how to appreciate freedom from all that fear and those shadows. There is always more work to do, of course, but isn't it lovely when those tears flow and we are given opportunity to heal a bit more? I wish you that release and peace, and thank you for sharing that with us

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    Synchronicity wrote..>> (I associated anger with people being hurt since I saw it in my childhood)...was what kept me alive

    Synch- these words must be powerful for me to look into as I am so sad all of the sudden and fighting tears.
    Anger= violence and harm is going to come at me. That WAS/is my view and I had not linked the two -for life today. (All grown up) Thank you so much for now I have a focused point to work with and learn how to embrace the shadow of self. Great starting point for me. Through the years of clearing shadow there still is more to clear, apparently.

    I physically live with the injuries compounded through time and use from such incidences with angry people. ouch! lol
    Yes, I saw it that way and changed how I dealt with people and myself. When I welcomed the anger out of the shadow and into the light I saw that it's wasn't violence and aggression, evil and shameful, hurting others as I had always experienced anger from others. Being an empath means I feel it physically when someone is angry, and growing up with anger blasting toward me when I was young was so painful, frightening, and overwhelming that I thought all anger was violent and out of control. I thought it was the nature of that particular beast and that if I felt anger, admitted that I was angry as a child when I was harmed or saw others harmed, that it meant I was carrying that evil aggression and was just like them. It took many years of healing and then working with that particular shadow to see it for what it was. The anger was my motivation as a child to keep standing back up when knocked down or to stand between the abuser and the less able to defend themselves other victims. It was the same energy/part of myself that stood between my child and the abuser and said NO! I saw that anger in my eyes in a childhood picture, and after much work with this shadow self I saw that expression as a message to the universe that I was not giving up and wouldn't be broken or allow others to be hurt when I could stop it. I had been afraid it would explode and rage if I allowed it to come into the light, but when I saw it I saw where it came from and what it really was.

    I also thought that avoiding anger and angry people would keep me safe, but instead it walled off a part of me that I needed and made me passive and a target instead of safe. When I worked with my shadow self and saw the anger in the light I saw how that little spunky me was able to stand up to much bigger people and live through things that I wouldn't have without it. And I saw how anger isn't always bad, dangerous, and scary..it was so profound for me that I grabbed that shadow self and hugged it tightly!

    You know, the funny thing is that when I welcomed that shadow self into the light I saw the big picture of how it all fit in and how it was just one more part of me and everyone else...not something to control a person, but a tool to use for motivation and protection. It lost that power of shame and secrecy, and I found I could start being assertive and not a pushover, and that I also realized that it was freed and I was at peace finally. That and some other shadow self work was life-changing and amazing! I may carry scars, but I also know how to protect myself and how to appreciate freedom from all that fear and those shadows. There is always more work to do, of course, but isn't it lovely when those tears flow and we are given opportunity to heal a bit more? I wish you that release and peace, and thank you for sharing that with us
    I have gone through your paragraph one and two. Especially letting go of secret and shame.
    The third paragraph re: bring this anger to light and embrace the anger. This is going to be exciting !
    Not exactly sure how to go about it all but my guides will help me.
    Thank you, too for sharing.

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