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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

    a country that can track a gnat on a monkey's butt from 12000 miles away, didn't lose sight of this plane...
    Made me laugh.

    For me, this is the nub of it.
    So you're telling me they can track your phone, BUT .......

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    Hey! Maybe there's an opening to Hollow Earth near Diego Garcia and that's where they were taken! Just a thought...

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    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.UzCXKPmSySp

    Quote Posted by Rob Brotherton
    I, along with colleagues Chris French and Christopher Thresher-Andrews at Goldsmiths, University of London, wanted to see how many people were jumping to the conclusion that foul play was involved.

    We asked over 400 people to rank six possible scenarios for the jet's disappearance – three accidental, three conspiratorial – from most to least plausible. The most popular scenario involved no conspiracy: half of those surveyed rated an accidental crash as most likely. However, just under one-fifth believed a hijacking to be the most plausible scenario, the second most popular choice.

    A non-conspiratorial crash due to pilot error came third, preferred by 14 per cent. A more outlandish idea – that the disappearance was secretly orchestrated by the Chinese, Malaysian or US government – was rated most likely by a little under 7 per cent. Finally, just over 5 per cent ranked a spontaneous explosion as the most credible explanation, and a similar number rated a terrorist bombing as most likely.
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    Personally, I'm now at this point:

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    • I *feel* (and it's always possible I may be quite wrong -- it's not totally out of the question that we'll find out quite soon) that the huge search for the satellite-spotted debris in the Southern Ocean is all a distraction/diversion. This may be intended as fodder for the mainstream media, to stop their more astute and un-bought investigators turning over stones in other places. And if we're told even by honest journalists that the debris has been found, it might be challenging now to take such a report at face value.

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    Quote Posted by buares (here)
    He said some of these countries may be withholding vital radar data about flight MH370 for fear it would expose gaping holes in their expensive air defences.

    If it emerges that an unidentified aircraft had been able to fly over a territory undetected and unchallenged it would amount to an embarrassing security failure, he said.
    I can't think why. It puts them in the same league as the USA who on 9/11/2001 self-confessedly allowed three airliners to go about their business unchallenged. No embarrassing security failure there we were told.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    -------

    Personally, I'm now at this point:

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    • I *feel* (and it's always possible I may be quite wrong -- it's not totally out of the question that we'll find out quite soon) that the huge search for the satellite-spotted debris in the Southern Ocean is all a distraction/diversion. This may be intended as fodder for the mainstream media, to stop their more astute and un-bought investigators turning over stones in other places. And if we're told even by honest journalists that the debris has been found, it might be challenging now to take such a report at face value.
    They're basically telling every one that, "We can't find it, but we know it's there where we are looking, so just accept our conclusion and go home".

    In a perfect world of deception, they would of at least produced a chunk of debris that looked like a plane part, at least to present to the grieving families and journalists to be a bit more convincing. But instead, it's as if they just gave up.

    We haven't heard the last of this yet.....
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    Latest from Veterans Today, re history of Inmarsat and "following the money" leads to some 'interesting' connections.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03...stidigitation/
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    Quote Posted by Taurean (here)
    I'm suprised nobody has picked on the motto on this coat of arms, seems a bit bizarre to me.
    ...
    Motto translates ;- “Limuria is in our charge/trust”

    All very interesting, indeed, Taurean...

    Following further in your Wiki link is also the story of the compelled expulsion of the Chagossians/indigenous inhabitants of Diego Garcia and other islands in the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) by the United Kingdom, beginning in 1968 until April 27th 1973.

    "Some Chagossians and human rights advocates have claimed that the Chagossian right of occupation was violated by the British Foreign Office as a result of the 1966 agreement between the British and American governments to provide an unpopulated island for a U.S. military base, and that additional compensation and a right of return be provided.
    ...

    The British government has consistently denied any illegalities in the expulsion.
    ...

    On April 1, 2010, the British Cabinet announced the creation of the world’s largest Marine Protected Area (MPA) which consists of most of the Chagos Archipelago, homeland of the Chagossians. The MPA will prohibit extractive industry of all kinds, including commercial fishing and oil and gas exploration.

    Some Chagossians have claimed that this MPA was created to prevent the islanders from returning to the islands
    ...

    According to leaked diplomatic cables obtained by Wikileaks and released in (Dec.) 2010, in a calculated move in 2009 to prevent re-settlement of the BIOT by native Chagossians, the UK proposed that the BIOT become a "marine reserve" with the aim of preventing the former inhabitants from returning to their lands.

    The summary of the diplomatic cable is as follows :

    HMG would like to establish a “marine park” or “reserve” providing comprehensive environmental protection to the reefs and waters of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT), a senior Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) official informed Polcouns on May 12.

    The official insisted that the establishment of a marine park -- the world’s largest -- would in no way impinge on USG use of the BIOT, including Diego Garcia, for military purposes. He agreed that the UK and U.S. should carefully negotiate the details of the marine reserve to assure that U.S. interests were safeguarded and the strategic value of BIOT was upheld. He said that the BIOT’s former inhabitants would find it difficult, if not impossible, to pursue their claim for resettlement on the islands if the entire Chagos Archipelago were a marine reserve.


    The cable (reference ID "09LONDON1156") was classified as confidential and "no foreigners", and leaked as part of the Cablegate cache.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopul...f_Diego_Garcia

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    In FAQ on Chagos Conservation Trust website:

    Is the presence of the military base a threat to the Chagos ecosystem?

    The island of Diego Garcia where the military base is located is in the far southeast of the archipelago, and is tens of miles, and in many cases hundreds of miles, away from most other islands, reefs and their surrounding waters. Whilst there has been damage to some reefs close to the military area of Diego Garcia, it is not highly significant in the context of the tens of thousands of square kilometres of reefs in the entire Chagos ecosystem.


    Can I visit Chagos as a tourist/volunteer/photographer/journalist etc?
    Unfortunately, these islands are very remote making visiting them impractical. There are no commercial tours to the Chagos archipelago. Rules regarding private visits are very strict and it is only possible to visit one or two sites by private yacht – and then only with permission of the BIOT government. Most non-government visitors to Chagos are highly skilled scientists who land a coveted position on one of the occasional research expeditions to the area. Therefore, unfortunately, there is almost no possibility of visiting or volunteering on these islands.

    ---------------------------

    Also from the website, (part) summary for the book 'Peak of Limuria, The Story of Diego Garcia and the Chagos Archipelago' by Richard Edis, ex-Commissioner of the BIOT :

    The island is one of the remnants of the lost continent of Limuria; discovered by the Portuguese in the sixteenth century; disputed by the British and French in the eighteenth century; and for nearly two hundred years the site of a vibrant plantation society. The island has in recent years been transformed into an important military base, which played a critical role in the conflicts with Afghanistan (2002) and Iraq (1991 and 2003).

    ---------------------------

    Am currently watching 'Stealing A Nation', a documentary by John Pilger:


    Synopsis:
    'Stealing A Nation' (2004) is an extraordinary film about the plight of the Chagos Islands, whose indigenous population was secretly and brutally expelled by British Governments in the late 1960s and early 1970s to make way for an American military base. The tragedy, which falls within the remit of the International Criminal Court as "a crime against humanity", is told by Islanders who were dumped in the slums of Mauritius and by British officials who left behind a damning trail of Foreign Office documents.

    http://johnpilger.com/videos/stealing-a-nation

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    Missing plane: How did a UK firm track the plane?5 hours ago




    It has been announced that the missing flight MH370 crashed in the southern
    Indian Ocean - with information based on analysis from British satellite firm
    Inmarsat. They were able to work out the flight went south after comparing
    previous Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 flights' satellite data with flight MH370.

    Inmarsat's senior vice president for external affairs, Chris McLaughlin, told the
    BBC's Richard Westcott that the firm studied electronic "pings" sent from the plane.

    Read more

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26723980





    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This is from the same company last week and shows the process




    ====================================================


    This still does not answer the big questions

    How or who turned off communications ?

    Why turn south to crash in the middle
    of the deepest ocean in the world ?

    It does mean if the passengers are dead
    then the patent issue will be interesting
    and I expect that will disappear in legalese.

    As the Romans used to say 'Cui Bono '

    Who benefits ??



    from previous post

    I don't know , but they usually ask for motives and if true this is a big one below ...

    %100 ownership for the Freescale Semiconductor company , and if they are
    backed by bigger players IE mil ind corporations or the CIA /Pentagon
    landing at Diego Garcia on the simulator may have greater meaning....


    Quote “Patents Patents Patents.

    “Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved by the Patent Office,
    four of the five Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor
    of Austin TX.

    “Patent is divided up on 20 per cent increments to five holders.

    “Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20 per
    cent); Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20 per cent); Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20
    per cent); Freescale Semiconductor (20 per cent).

    “If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of
    the deceased if not disputed in a will.

    “If four of the five dies, then the remaining one Patent holder gets 100 per cent of
    the wealth of the patent.

    “That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.”

    It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese
    members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.

    “Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their
    heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane
    went missing, the patent had not been approved.”

    There is plenty of scope for foul play as the Veterans Today article
    suggested posted above...

    Prestidigitation: sleight of hand

    a : a cleverly executed trick or deception

    b : a conjuring trick requiring manual dexterity

    c : skill and dexterity in conjuring tricks

    whole article on link
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03...stidigitation/


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    started by a group including the former United States president George H. W. Bush.
    Links between the company and the United States Central Intelligence Agency
    exist . In 2009, it was renamed the Harbinger Group Inc. in an attempt to thwart
    such affiliations.

    Now we have come to the point in which we have asked what this “private”
    company could hope to gain from providing misleading data and sending the world
    to the southern Indian Ocean, which is the most desolate and dangerous ocean in
    the world.

    It has been stated that FLT 370 carried 12 crew members and 227 passengers from
    15 nations. Who were these passengers? Out of the 227, 20 were employees of
    Freescale Semiconductor, a company based in Austin, Texas – 12 were from
    Malaysia, and 8 from China.

    Freescale was involved in a classified government project with the U.S. Department
    of Defense.

    What is unusual is that the Malaysian government has continually refused to
    release the cargo list. Was there something onboard that aircraft? Perhaps
    something developed by the Freescale engineers and on its way to Beijing to be
    sold or turned over to the Chinese?

    Could it be that Inmarsat is complicit in diverting the delivery of this cargo and
    group of engineers to Beijing?

    Could it be that there are other reasons that those controlling Inmarsat do not want
    the truth to be told about the whereabouts of the Malaysian Boeing 777?

    A little “Sleight of Hand” and the world is convinced that Flt 370 lies beneath the
    oceans.

    read more
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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

    a country that can track a gnat on a monkey's butt from 12000 miles away, didn't lose sight of this plane...
    Made me laugh.

    For me, this is the nub of it.
    So you're telling me they can track your phone, BUT .......

    Attachment 25350

    Something else to take into account is that "they" want everyone to "think" that they can monitor you 24/7... where ever you go and whatever you do..That "they" can see everything... everywhere...all the time.

    The truth might be a bit different.
    When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
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    Quote Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)



    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)



    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)

    a country that can track a gnat on a monkey's butt from 12000 miles away, didn't lose sight of this plane...
    Made me laugh.

    For me, this is the nub of it. So you're telling me they can track your phone, BUT .......

    Attachment 25350
    Something else to take into account is that "they" want everyone to "think" that they can monitor you 24/7... where ever you go and whatever you do..That "they" can see everything... everywhere...all the time.

    The truth might be a bit different.

    Chris McLaughlin says they already have the tech to stay in communication
    via a text base system ? for a $ an hour. aprox 2.40 sec in below interview.


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    LOOK !






    So, how did they managed to get this:



    ... with multiple eyewitnesses reporting of a low flying jet in the Maldives... North of Diego Garcia:

    Quote Kudahuvadhoo islanders spotted low-flying mystery aircraft in hours after MH370 disappearance

    By Daniel Bosley | March 18th, 2014 |



    With additional reporting by Ahmed Nazeer and Ahmed Rilwan

    Residents of Kudahuvadhoo in Dhaal atoll have reported seeing a low flying aircraft heading in a south-easterly direction in the morning of March 8, prompting speculation that it could have been the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

    “It was about 6:30am in the morning, I heard a loud noise and went out to see what it was,” Adam Saeed, a teacher at Kudahuvadhoo school, told Minivan News.
    “I saw a flight flying very low and it had a red straight line in the middle of it. The flight was traveling north-west to south-east.”

    While Saeed’s sighting has been corroborated by a number of witnesses, others remain skeptical that the aircraft could have been the missing jet, whilst aviation authorities maintain that they have no “credible” evidence to support the claims.

    Police have confirmed they are looking into the reports without providing further comment.

    Co-author of the original story Ahmed Naif explained that Haveeru had been receiving similar reports since March 9, but had been concerned about the credibility of the sightings.

    “Later we were getting so many comments that we contacted the island and they said it was true,” explained Naif.

    One islander, who identified himself as Hamzath, told Minivan News that had also seen a low-flying plane heading from north-west to south-east, though he remained wary of jumping to conclusions.

    “People started talking about it when they realised that the flight that we saw had the same characteristics as of the missing plane,” he said. ”We are still not saying it is the same plane, we just wanted to report it just in case.”

    Another witness – who wished to remain anonymous – confirmed a similar height and direction but did not see the plane’s colours, while another suggested that the reports had been exaggerated.

    “A plane did fly near the island,” said the anonymous witness. “It wasn’t that big, as big as people say.”

    “These days people will be out fishing every morning. Around thirty people would always be there in the morning – but no one talked about it then. If it was that noticeable, loud and big, people would talk.”





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    Default Re: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

    One issue that all the satellite searches highlighted was HOW MUCH human-created garbage is floating in our oceans. Remember the huge mid-oceanic garbage gyres that have been reported by marine travellers?

    If some group wished to cover up what happened to MH370 they would likely know full well they have a great choice of floating garbage that could provide the 'evidence' they need to put this case to bed. Are any of the identified pieces of 'evidence' going to be recovered and properly examined?

    I don't mind being proved wrong if parts of the plane are recovered and positively identified. But I'm not holding my breath while we wait for proper corroboration.

    Cidersomerset, thanks for your interesting post above re the possible financial links.

    Probably, like most people, I'm still unclear whether this was an elaborate distraction (from what?), a genuine accident, a botched hijack attempt or, as has been mentioned, 'disappearing' certain passengers or cargo that were on the plane.
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    2014 - BBC World News - Global: Inmarsat Confirms No Hope for MAS Flight MH-370 - 24/3/14



    Published on 24 Mar 2014


    Jon Sopel presents this BBC World edition of Global, recorded at 2300 hrs SGT on
    24 Mar 2014. The British satellite telecommunications company Inmarsat has now
    confirmed what the world had feared - that Malaysia Airways flight MH370 was
    surely lost in the southern Indian Ocean, south-west of Australia.

    The following news report is reproduced from the BBC News online website
    @ http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26...

    The satellite operator was receiving hourly "pings" from equipment on board the
    plane for at least five hours after the aircraft left Malaysian airspace.

    Initially, these pings - which were essentially just "I'm switched on" messages -
    were used to plot two broad arcs of possible travel - one arc going to the north, the
    other heading south.

    The northerly route always looked doubtful because it would have taken the plane
    towards countries with sophisticated air-defence systems. The chances of it
    avoiding detection seemed slim.

    Inmarsat, which is feeding into the official investigation, spent the weekend
    reviewing all of its flight MH370 data.

    Doppler effect

    In particular, it examined the frequency spectrum of the ping transmissions and
    how they differed with pings emitted from previous Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777
    flights.

    This allowed engineers to model how the frequency might change very slightly as a
    plane travels through the sky.

    This is the famous Doppler effect, which acts to "stretch" or "compress" radio
    waves emanating from moving objects. With a moving police car, the equivalent
    sound effect is to change the pitch of the siren.

    The analysis is cutting-edge and has never been done before, but it has enabled
    Inmarsat's engineers to confirm that the southerly arc was the path taken by flight MH370.

    The analysis tells us nothing about the location of the ill-fated plane. It tells us
    nothing about the altitude the plane flew, other than it was airborne.

    Neither does it tell us about its speed or its fuel capacity at the times of those
    pings. All this technique really does at the moment is tell us that the plane was
    moving one way rather than the other.

    But that in itself is a stomach-churning realisation for the families of flight MH370
    because it means the plane was moving far away from any landing possibility. The
    only conclusion can be that it eventually ditched in the ocean.

    Right 'haystack'

    Chris McLaughlin, senior vice-president at Inmarsat, told BBC News it was "dealing
    with a totally new area". Analysts will continue probe the available data, but it is
    uncertain whether anything more can be drawn out.

    The UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB), which has worked with
    Inmarsat on the pings, is expected to go into more detail in Tuesday.

    At least now search planes and ships know they are likely looking in the
    right "haystack", even if it is still a huge one.But there is urgency. A lot of time has
    elapsed between the loss of the plane and confirmation that it surely fell into the
    southern Indian Ocean.The priority is to get ships into the area to retrieve
    purported debris items, to help narrow the zone of the probable of impact.
    The flight recorders from flight MH370 will be close to that location, albeit about
    3,500m down.

    The batteries on these "black boxes" have a 30-day, or perhaps even a 40-day,
    lifetime, meaning they will continue to ping their existence to searchers overhead
    for only a limited period.When the batteries go flat, we move into a much more
    difficult phase - that of using remotely operated vehicles to actively look for the devices.

    'Remoteness of area'

    "The data should last for many years. We saw with Air France flight 449 that the
    black boxes were recovered two years after the fact, and the French were able to
    pull all the data off them," said Van Gurley from the Metron company, which took
    part in the search for flight 449.

    "In this region of the Indian Ocean, the bottom is about two miles down. There are
    a number of technologies - sonar sleds and robotic vehicles - that can access that depth.

    "The problem is the remoteness of the area because those robotic vehicles need a
    support ship and a support ship needs to occasionally go [into port] for fuel, water and food.

    "So, given that the search area is 1,500 miles off Perth, just keeping ships on
    station for an extended period of time will be very challenging."

    And Simon Boxall, an oceanographer at the University of Southampton, added: "We
    don't have very good maps of this region. It hasn't been surveyed much in the past.

    "It doesn't have a strong interest in terms of the resources on the seabed. We've
    probably got better maps of the Moon's surface than this part of the seabed."
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    Always important to answer the question, "Who gains?"

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    MH370 search: How new satellite data confirmed Malaysia Airlines plane was lost



    Published on 24 Mar 2014


    MH370: SEVEN SATELLITE PINGS REVEAL FATE
    British satellite company Inmarsat analyses seven, hourly pings sent by the missing
    Malaysian Airlines flight to determine its final resting place.

    London: A new, unprecedented satellite tracking technique is what gave Malaysian
    Prime Minister Najib Razak enough confidence to announce that Malaysia Airlines
    flight MH370 went down in the remote south of the Indian Ocean.
    British firm Inmarsat was behind an earlier analysis that indicated the plane had
    been flying in one of two big 'corridors', one in the northern hemisphere and one in
    the southern.However last week it went back to its data and tried a new
    mathematical analysis, which concluded on Sunday.

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    The new analysis allowed them to discard the northern corridor, and focus more
    precisely on the southern route.Based on this new information, Mr Najib announced
    on Monday that MH370's last known position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean,
    west of Perth.The nature of the pings indicated that the plane was still moving
    during that time."This is a remote location far from any possible landing sites," he
    said. "It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that ...
    flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."The aeroplane had
    Inmarsat's 'Classic Aero' satellite system, which collects information such as
    location, altitude, heading and speed, and sends it through Inmarsat's satellites
    into their network.This 'ACARS' (aircraft communications addressing and reporting
    system) was switched off or interrupted early in the flight, meaning no such
    information was available to track the plane.However the Classic Aero system still
    sent hourly 'pings' back to Inmarsat's satellite for at least five hours after the
    aircraft left Malaysian airspace, the company discovered.These pings contained no
    data -- they were just a simple 'hello' to keep the link open -- however their timing
    and frequency contained hidden mathematical clues.

    The company looked at the 'Doppler effect' -- tiny changes in the frequency of the
    ping signal, caused by the relative movement of the satellite and the plane (the
    Doppler effect is the reason why, for example, police sirens are a different pitch or
    frequency depending on whether they are travelling toward you or away from you).
    This analysis allowed Inmarsat to map two huge 'corridors' for the plane's possible
    location, in big arcs stretching thousands of kilometres north and south of the point
    where the last radar contact with MH370 was made.Australian and US experts took
    this information, added some assumptions about the plane's speed, and narrowed
    the southern option into an area of ocean that could be realistically searched.
    Meanwhile, Inmarsat went back to its satellite data. Its new analysis found that the
    northern route did not quite correlate with the frequency of the pings from the
    plane -- meaning the plane must have been heading south.

    It also suggested that the plane had been travelling at a steady cruising altitude
    above 30,000 feet.They compared satellite data from MH370 with that from
    previous Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 flights, going back a few weeks, in order to
    better model the movement of the plane."This really was a shot in the dark," Chris
    McLaughlin, senior vice president of external affairs at Inmarsat told the BBC. "It's
    a credit to the scientific team that they managed to model this.
    "Just a single 'ping' can be used to say the plane was both powered up and
    travelling. And then by a process of elimination comparing it to other known flights
    and established that it went south."

    The UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch also contributed to the analysis.

    ====================================================

    I knew I heard them talking about the Doppler effect somewhere...

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    Here we go... portals to who knows where:

    A second Bermuda Triangle? Six other planes have disappeared in same area as Malaysian Flight MH370 without a trace

    Rebecca Pocklington
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    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:36 CDT

    [...]

    According to data compiled by the Aviation Safety Network (ASN), 83 aircraft which carried more than 14 passengers have been declared missing since 1948 across the world - and that doesn't count the smaller aircraft.

    Here are some more planes that have disappeared in the area:

    Pan Malaysian Air Transport in 1993

    A Pan Malaysian Air Transport plane disappeared on January 31, 1993, within Northern Sumatra. It was en route from Medan-Polonia Airport to Banda Aceh-Blang Bintang Airport, both in Indonesia. The Shorts SC.7 Skyvan 3-100 disappeared over mountains, and the last reported position was at 8500-foot, 67 miles from Medan. It was carrying 14 people, 11 of them passengers and three crew, and no one was seen alive again.

    Upali Air flight N482U in 1983

    The Upali Air flight N482U disappeared on February 13, 1983, 20km off Kuala Selangor, Malaysia, in the Malacca Straits. It was carrying six people - three of them passengers and three crew. The Learjet 35A was en route from Kuala Lumpur airport in Malaysia to Colombo-Katunayake, Sri Lanka.

    The corporate jet was carrying Sri Lankan multi-millionaire businessman Upali Wijewardene. The last radio contact, according to ASN, was 15 minutes after takeoff when the pilot reported he was climbing. The pilot was supposed to contact Medan but never did. A survival pack, believed to be from the Learjet, was found a few days later but no more clues were ever found.

    Garuda Indonesia Airlines in 1961

    In one of the largest air disasters in the area, the Garuda Indonesia Airlines flight PK-GDY disappeared off Madura Island in Indonesia on February 3, 1961.

    It was en route from Juanda Airport to Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman Airport, both in Indonesia, when it mysteriously vanished. The five crew and 21 passengers were never seen again, and it is believed the plane crashed into the sea.

    Weather reconnaissance flight Swan 38 in 1974

    Hurricane Hunter flight Swan 38, from the 54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron, was lost during Typhoon Bess in 1974 somewhere over the South China Sea. The typhoon had slowed to still strong 75 mph winds, and Swan 38 was sent out to provide reconnaissance information on October 12.It reportedly departed Clark Air Base in the Philippines and was 400 miles northwest of Clark AFB when the last radio contact was made. Search and rescue teams spent four days scouring the sea but no trace was found, according to wunderground.com.

    The six crewmen were declared missing and presumed dead.

    Charles Kingsford Smith's Lady Southern Cross in 1935

    Charles Kingsford Smith, known as Smithy, was an Australian airman who set his sights on beating the England to Australia air speed record. He set out on November 8, 1935, in his Lockheed Altair monoplane, the Lady Southern Cross, but lost contact with the ground somewhere over the Andaman Sea. He was never seen again and it is unclear what happened to his plane - but it is thought it crashed into the sea.

    GW Salt and FB Taylor's private plane in 1932

    English planters, GW Salt and FB Taylor went missing along with their plane over the Gulf of Martaban in southern Burma on August 12, 1932. They were flying from Moulmein (Mawlamyine) to Rangoon (Yangon) in Burma, in a huge attempt to get all the way to England. Their small plane G-AAKA is believed to have crashed into the sea. The wreckage of a plane was spotted in September that year in the Gulf of Martaban - but it was never confirmed as the planters' plane.

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    This company Inmarsat, doing a bit of positive publicity around this event.

    Only one question.

    If the airplane is actually on the ocean floor as they say, where's the ****ing signs of the black boxes?


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    I've asked many people I know the same question.

    If you was on a flight and something was wrong, what's the first thing you would do?
    They all pretty much said the same thing...you'd reach for your phone and contact your loved ones.

    If nobody done this, then its logical to say that before any of the passengers and airline staff knew something was wrong, all the people on board this plane were already incapacitated or deceased.

    OR,
    ALL outgoing contact from this plane was jammed or made in-accessible by someone, or something...
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    Probably got nothing to do with anything but this snippit struck me as a little odd in view of Roisin's earlier post.
    Quote 25 MARCH 2014 Prince Harry has whisked his girlfriend Cressida Bonas away for a short skiing holiday in Kazakhstan.

    The couple flew by helicopter to the exclusive resort of Shymbulak, a luxury chalet located in the mountains above the city of Almaty.
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