Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[naste.de.lumina]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Does anyone know if control of a Boeing 777 can be taken away from the flight crew and be flown from a remote location?
If yes, please provide links to information sources.

If the pilot planned this event to be a political bargaining tool for manipulation of the Malaysian government, would he keep his demands a secret by maintaining radio silence? I don't think so.

If the pilot (or whoever was flying the aircraft) wanted to kill the passengers, would he/she not fly the aircraft to a very high altitude, turn off oxygen to the passengers who would simply get peacefully sleepy and fade away?

If the aircraft landed safely with many deceased passengers, could that explain why the passengers phones were ringing, yet unanswered, long after the aircraft supposedly crashed?

Is it possible that the powers-that-be know the location of this aircraft? Very likely.

How to Steal an Airplane: From 9/11 to MH370

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Does anyone know if control of a Boeing 777 can be taken away from the flight crew and be flown from a remote location?
If yes, please provide links to information sources.

If the pilot planned this event to be a political bargaining tool for manipulation of the Malaysian government, would he keep his demands a secret by maintaining radio silence? I don't think so.

If the pilot (or whoever was flying the aircraft) wanted to kill the passengers, would he/she not fly the aircraft to a very high altitude, turn off oxygen to the passengers who would simply get peacefully sleepy and fade away?

If the aircraft landed safely with many deceased passengers, could that explain why the passengers phones were ringing, yet unanswered, long after the aircraft supposedly crashed?

Is it possible that the powers-that-be know the location of this aircraft? Very likely.

How to Steal an Airplane: From 9/11 to MH370

Excellent video. Here it is:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Nt4Z1tUHgE

[JRS]

More remote control airplane info here by Gordon Duff: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03...-370-revealed/

Interesting!!

[gripreaper]

I don't know how much longer this story can hang on.

[JRS]

IMHO this story may just be getting started!

[superconsciousness]

http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2014/03/...ays-usa-today/

http://rt.com/news/missing-plane-black-boxes-153/

https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/20...heir-eyebrows/

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalk...ot-understood/

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_0...airliner-7569/

Falls under the category of "pull my thumb..."

TOTAL COVERUP...BUT WHY?

Control.

CONTROL OVER WHAT?

Well, articles bashing the official story are pro-Russia/China, so ultimately, it's about control over whatever the East and West are fighting for today: MONEY AND RESOURCES.

That's it..."they" (whoever that is...does it really matter at this point?) stole the plane as a bargaining chip over money and resources. There are no innocent or guilty sides. There are simply two sides to the same coin here, and you find humanity on both sides. Don't blame ETs for this crap...that's part of the cop out.

Wow...humanity REALLY needs to grow up. Growing up requires honesty and truthfulness in one's own life...don't worry about everyone/everything else. Practice honesty and truthfulness in order to see things as they are, which in turn will allow one to develop the ability to know what to do and what not to do in life.



Are we just looking for the "bad guy"?...let's make the changes within ourselves that we want to see the world make, and let the world worry about itself.

[Cidersomerset]

Flight MH370 Found? Not Quite – Now the Real Whitewash Begins.

new Wednesday 26th March 2014 at 07:05 By David Icke





‘After nearly one month of turning up absolutely nothing, suddenly the public are
being told that the case of missing Malaysian airliner MH370 has been solved, well,
sort of…

It was a search and rescue operation on an unprecedented scale, combing through
over 30,000 nautical miles, involving 60 ships and 50 aircraft – all in an effort to
find one missing Boeing 777 which is said to have set off from Kula Lumpur to
Beijing on March 8, 2014, only to disappear into thin air, without a trace.

This week Malaysian authorities made the dramatic announcement that they had
finally “found” the aircraft, without any “debris sighting” . On cue, global
mainstream media outlets ran continuous coverage on Monday March 24th of this
week, showing footage of men looking out the window of Royal Australian Air Force
P-3, looking rather intensely at a trail of smoke hanging over the water, but failed
to tell viewers in many instances – that this was merely a “smoke marker placed
there”, no doubt for the cameras.’

Read more: Flight MH370 Found? Not Quite – Now the Real Whitewash Begins.

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/2...tewash-begins/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qU18pAGuxr4

This,we are told, is meant to draw a line under the story in a communal ‘move on’ moment.

The Malaysian prime minister boldly announced that analysis of satellite data
concludes “beyond a doubt” that the plane had in fact gone down in the southern
Indian Ocean 2,500 kilometers (1,500) west of Perth, Australia.

A few object were said to be found, but these were not shown on TV or to
media. “Objects could be picked up in a few hours”, Malaysia’s transport minister
said, while Australian PM Tony Abbott said, “One object was circular and grey or
green, and the other rectangular and orange – but it could be flotsham“. In reality, nothing.

What is clear now – is that there is still no evidence of a Being 777 crash-landing there.

Here where things get dicey: this suddenly incredible “debris sighting” has been
based on information from one private British telecoms firm, Inmarsat, who run a
fleet of 30 satellites globally overlapping with systems run by US-based Raytheon.
Inmarsat claim to have come to their conclusion based on data “relayed between
the plane and ground station by satellite”. Inmarsat then sent its computer findings
on Friday to the UK Air Accident Investigation Branch based in Aldershot,
Hampshire, who spent one day “going over the figures” before sending it to the
Malaysian authorities.

Of all the likely destinations for the missing flight, it seems incredible that would fly
for 3 or more hours south, only to ditch the plane in the water miles from any land
mass. This latest conclusion is based almost solely on computer modeled data –
supplied Inmarsat, and as yet, no physical proof that Flight HH370 has actually
crashed at the location they are claiming it did.

By contrast, an actual eyewitness sighting was reported the morning of the crash,
but was more or less ignored by all governments and mainstream media outlets.
Haveeru local news previously confirmed that, “Residents of the remote Maldives
island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a “low flying jumbo
jet” on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.”
That report continues:

“Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling
North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also
noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

“I’ve never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We’ve seen seaplanes,
but I’m sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the
plane clearly,” said an eyewitness.

“It’s not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact
same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the
tremendous noise too.”

Coincidentally, The Maldives Islands are more or less along a direct flight path to
the US and British island military base at Diego Garcia. Make of that what you will,
but you cannot discount this in connection to reports that one of the MH370 pilots
has Diego Garcia plotted on his own home flight simulator.

Confusion was stirred up even more after retired United States Air Force Lieutenant
General, Thomas G. McInerney, turned up on a FOX News program hosted by Mike
Huckaby, proceeding to infer that the US has known all along where the plane had
traveled, and that the missing Boeing 777 was already in Central Asia. Watch:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qkIscCG1yXc

Although McInerney went on to reinforce the White House myth that Osama bin
Laden was killed in 2011 at his compound in Pakistan, you can’t help but wonder
why he was sent onto FOX at the very time that this latest “discovery” has
happened. Bill Stills concluded his commentary by warning the this plane may likely
end up being be used for some US-sponsored flase flag, or terrorist act in the future.

Mainstream media is now being flooded with reports of “grieving families” which the
public have only now been given access to, and western media talking points are
focusing on victims’ families blaming the Malaysian government for its
incompetence in conducting the search and that somehow ‘blood is now on the
Malaysian governments’ hands’.

21WIRE detailed some suspicions regarding the passenger lists and talk of key
Freescale (Austin, TX based) employees being on the plane, as well as the technical
parameters regarding the planes transponder systems and radar detection. In the
end, for the government anyway, the whole story has relied exclusively on
technical and computer satellite specs in order to illustrate a timeline and possible
locations for the missing flight.




MEDIA DRAMA: The grieving families and the all important ‘blame game’.

The blame game that has ensued following Malaysia’s ‘endorsement’ of the British
location data (which is still a guess) and Malaysia is now accusing Inmarsat
of ‘sitting on the information for 10 days’, which means that a convenient media
side-show has now opened up to distract from actually finding the plane. Telegraph
said it today:

“The AAIB, working with Inmarsat, provided the only credible information on the
Malaysia Airlines flight’s whereabouts, but a series of delays meant ten crucial days
were lost before search teams began looking in the southern Indian Ocean, where it
now seems certain the aircraft went down.”

Regardless of what is being said and what theories are being kicked around, one
can conclude, once again, that the official story of Malaysian Flight MH370 is a
complete whitewash already.

Isn’t it funny how the biggest plane hunt in human history – over in Asia, is swiftly
closed down by a single British company and a British government aviation agency?

Who is Inmarsat?

Inmarsat Plc is a major player in government, military, aviation satellite markets,
partners with the likes of Honeywell, and refers to itself as “the world’s leading
provider of mobile satcoms” with its IsatPhone range, and covers a wide range of
global contracts, most notably its satellite communications for “coalition military
forces” deployed on missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and other locations, and has also
been awarded a FEMA contract to continue providing Mobile Satellite Services
(MSS) in the US. Reuters explains, “Under this contract, FEMA will use Inmarsat
satellite services to provide reliable, mission-critical communications between
supporting personnel in the event of a disaster. In emergency situations, it is
essential that first responders are able to communicate immediately not only
among themselves, but also with their leadership through respective command and
operational centers.”

According to a 2011 interview with London’s City AM: “Inmarsat offers mobile
connectivity solutions for anything from a single yacht travelling the Pacific to the
thousands of US troops stationed in Afghanistan. It is a FTSE 100 powerhouse, but
one which rarely makes headlines… This is despite it providing a huge proportion of
the connectivity during the recent clashes in the Middle East, allowing journalists,
protesters and aid workers to spread news about the fall of generation-old
governments and the brutal clashes in Libya.”

In March 2012, Al-Jazeera Beirut correspondent Ali Hashim along with two others,
resigned over objections over Qatar’s pro-US and UK foreign policy slanted
reporting on the conflict, and revealed that Al-Jazeera spent $50,000 for smuggling
phones and satellite communication tools to Syria’s rebels. Did Inmarsat provide
the sat phones al Jazeera gave to Syrian ‘Rebels’, aiding foreign insurgents in Syria
in coordinating terrorist attacks inside that country? Good question. Only a few
firms would be positioned to deliver that service, and Inmarsat, according to their
own admission anyway, would be at the top of the list.

In Sept 2013, Inmarsat announced further inroads into the aviation industry,
providing “GSM and Internet services to airlines and their passengers”. Reuters
reported, “Thales SA announced that it has signed a Memorandum of Agreement
(MOA) that would include the Company as a partner in marketing Inmarsat PLC’s
connectivity solutions to the commercial aviation market. Under the MOA,
SwiftBroadband and GX Aviation are the primary and preferred satellite services for
Thales SA’s TopSeries IFEC system…. Financial terms were not disclosed.”

In June 2013, Inmarsat bid alongside the Carlyle Group LP and the Blackstone
Group LP for control over Singapore Telecommunications Ltd’s Australian satellite
unit. Reuters reported, “SingTel, Southeast Asia’s telecom operator, values the
satellite business of its Australian unit Optus at more than AUD2 billion ($1.9
billion), and has put it on sale as it battles tepid growth in its key markets of
Singapore and Australia. Inmarsat PLC, Blackstone Group LP and Carlyle Group LP
are among the other suitors to submit bids ahead of the deadline. Blackstone,
Carlyle, KKR, Intelsat, SES and SingTel declined comment.”

It also has business agreements with Malaysian shipping conglomerate MISC
Berhad (MISC), signing its first big deal covering 46 of its vessels, “comprised of
chemical and LNG tankers, for Inmarsat’s XpressLink service”.

Officially, Boeing 777 Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 is still missing…

More to come on this story – so stay tuned to 21WIRE

READ MORE WAR ON TERROR NEWS AT: 21st Century Wire War on Terror Files

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/2...tewash-begins/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[araucaria]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

By contrast, an actual eyewitness sighting was reported the morning of the crash,
but was more or less ignored by all governments and mainstream media outlets.
Haveeru local news previously confirmed that, “Residents of the remote Maldives
island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a “low flying jumbo
jet” on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.”
That report continues:

“Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling
North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. They also
noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

“I’ve never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We’ve seen seaplanes,
but I’m sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the
plane clearly,” said an eyewitness.

“It’s not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact
same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the
tremendous noise too.”

The very least that should have been done -- it's probably far too late now -- was to have shown these people a selection of unmarked planes for them to choose between: a kind of identity parade. But positive identification of even an aircraft type was maybe not on the agenda.

[Sérénité]

If some of the passengers phones were ringing out, it would be normal procedure in every day police probes to track the phones.

Considering even iPhone have their very own trackers for personal use (myself and my family use it daily, I even located my mother whilst she was flying over the English Channel recently) why have they not even attempted to 'ping' the passengers phones?!

They didn't think this one through well enough, so i'm surmising it was a last minute intention.

Someone was desperate...

[Buck]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by naste.de.lumina (here)

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Does anyone know if control of a Boeing 777 can be taken away from the flight crew and be flown from a remote location?
If yes, please provide links to information sources.

If the pilot planned this event to be a political bargaining tool for manipulation of the Malaysian government, would he keep his demands a secret by maintaining radio silence? I don't think so.

If the pilot (or whoever was flying the aircraft) wanted to kill the passengers, would he/she not fly the aircraft to a very high altitude, turn off oxygen to the passengers who would simply get peacefully sleepy and fade away?

If the aircraft landed safely with many deceased passengers, could that explain why the passengers phones were ringing, yet unanswered, long after the aircraft supposedly crashed?

Is it possible that the powers-that-be know the location of this aircraft? Very likely.

How to Steal an Airplane: From 9/11 to MH370

Excellent video. Here it is:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4Nt4Z1tUHgE

if I knew how to cross link more elegantly - I would - this is a post I made on 3-14 to Tesla's thread re Darpa red balloons etc
perhaps one of the mods will take pity of this massive post and condense to a link ?

hope this helps-

Posted by Buck (here)
or
We are all becoming increasingly fascinated, lulled into a meme stupor, watching in real time as the hidden hand weave their masterful tapestry of fear. This could be the first few steps of a dance that has us all witness the set piece for a very dramatic "terrorist" attack, one so vivid, so horrific, that we are all thrown back into a state of psychic paralysis, terrified again, of the boogeyman and begging our masters to make it all go away and keep us safe at any cost.

Is it a coincidence that this particular Boeing aircraft has a security vulnerability baked into it's design infrastructure that was enough of a concern that Boeing had to petition the FAA to even allow the 777 series to be used to fly passengers? Is it any coincidence that we hear all about the other design flaws of the 777, but nothing much about the design flaw that almost kept the 777 series from ever getting off the ground in the first place. And would any of us be surprised to learn that the inherent problem is the aircraft is designed in such a way that there is a total lack of (manual) control over-ride for the pilots in the event of a software malfunction (such as electronic attack), combined with computer processors that have been proven to be exploitable, and the third strike - two independent but connected electronic networks on board the plane- one for aircraft command and control (engine, ailerons, rudder, flaps, fuel pumps, landing gear, radios, landing lights, etc, and the other system?- the on board passenger services system- entertainment system, food services, galley, internal lighting, seat consoles, wifi network, AND outbound and inbound communications with entertainment source providers, and all the content the passengers access via network etc. The design of these two networks was flagged by the FAA during the design phase for commercial certification- as a clear security and safety risk. The FAA also noted the security risk was exponentially compounded by the ironic presence of a very sophisticated command and control function in the primary network to allow the aircraft to be flown by remote access (this is considered a safety feature to allow control of the aircraft in case of pilots becoming incapacitated, etc). But despite their own objections, the FAA ultimately certified the 777 without any modifications, but added an addendum to the airworthiness certificate, stating all the potential dangers as a disclosure to future purchasers of the aircraft.

It does make one wonder, just how did a commercial airliner get designed like this and not ONE engineer, software designer, systems engineer- not ONE, in the YEARS it takes to design and vet these systems- how is that not ONE person thought to suggest that maybe it was not a good idea to open the command and control systems of the aircraft to communication with the in flight entertainment and wifi system the passengers use. Even those of us who are not versed in computer protocols would likely find this a curious, even some would say - highly suspect circumstance.

Stating the obvious here to the av crew but vulnerabilities of this particular aircraft- couple with the circumstances of this event (as we know them so far- ) we are possibly looking at the evidence of a very sophisticated (as in state coordinated state sponsored) cyber hijacking. If the ptb wanted something to divert our attention from the worldwide banking crisis, the security state disclosures, the mounting furor over the CIA spying on congress, the wholesale plundering of our planetary resources, what better way to do it than with a vivid, extremely dramatic and awful "attack" where a "terrorrist" group hack into onboard command and control of an airliner and make it vanish in front of the entire world. We are all drawn into the hunt, (as the OP has laid out so clearly here). Riveted to our news feeds, twitter chirps and media outlets, we wait for the latest on the crisis to be announced. Imagine the hit on our global psyche, with so much attention and emotion connected with this event- if suddenly this airliner were to re-appear in flight- heading towards some incomprehensibly horrific fate, and all us watch, feeling utterly transfixed, and at the same time overwhelmed, helpless, as it is filmed (in high definition, and from various angles and distances of course) - documented by all the "trusted' major news outlets in the world, and perhaps even in a location that is iconic, instantly recognizable and the last place one would think would be attacked in such an awful way.

It is not my intention to foment or amplify fear driven events, but rather I intend this as information for us to consider using to triangulate an access point for our crew here (whomever might be willing and able to dial in on (hack into the potential event timeline I have suggested, have a look around, and if it feels appropriate, consider the option to place higher vibrational based timelines along the spine of the beast- or however 'right action' might present itself to you in the moment.

We have done it so many times, it is entirely within our capacities, of course

Mod edit by Bill:

Done.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...295#post809295

(The way to copy a link is to right-click on the "Link to Post #--" at the top right of any post. That lets you copy the exact link location of the post.)

[Violet]

There's many questions but the seas in which the plane supposedly fell are not of the easiest. Setting up an ultraspeed search for the plane there both endangers other people's lives and must be a very costly project. Personally, I think that this has played a very delaying role too and the governments are probably just making all these statements because they are being put under such tremendous emotional stress from the families, which of course is totally understandable.

No one wants to hear that sorry, I don't know where your mother, daughter, father is, we think in some of the nearby oceans. Let's see.

The biggest technical problem that we are aware of is that we can't believe that radars and other military devices in the area can possibly lose such a big object. This is where the many and ample scenarios stem from.

[avid]

http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unre...s-2458394.html

Flight MH370 Mystery. Diego Garcia Suspended All Flights On March 8th for 72 hrs.

By now, it should be obvious to people they are hiding something in Diego Garcia. The latest info just piles on top of a mountain of evidence that flight 370 is in a hangar in Diego Garcia.



https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&...diego%20garcia
Notice the date of the facebook post. March 8th. Now go to the facebook page.



https://www.facebook.com/NSFDG

Notice they have completely erased all posts between March 6th, and March 9th. There is some very weird stuff going on down in creepy Diego Garcia, a place where the US operates completely independant of the constitution.

Edit to add, here is a link to the Diego Garcia Passenger facebook page with the March 8th flight schedule. Notice all other flight schedules throughout the month all had several flights schedules. The fact that no flight were scheduled for 3 days during the time MH370 went missing, all maintenance crew most likely were off on leave. Great time to sneak in an aircraft.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Diego...42934902443795

[SilentFeathers]

Even though I don't always agree with him a 100% of the time, I sure do anticipate hearing what Farrell has to say about certain matters....

THE REMOTE CONTROL-OF-AIRCRAFT-WITHOUT-PILOT-CONSENT CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG…

What’s new in this patent, and its relevancy both to the 9/11 storyline and the developing storyline to the Flight 370 affair is simply the statement that a system has been developed to override cockpit decisions remotely.
Joseph Farrell

Boeing wins patent on uninterruptible autopilot system
Published 4 December 2006

New technology can be activated by the pilots, government agencies, even on-board sensors; not even a tortured pilot can give up control; dedicated electrical circuits ensure the system’s total independence

http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire....topilot-system

[Cidersomerset]

March 2014 Last updated at 12:35

Flight MH370: 122 new objects spotted - Malaysia minister



The images, given to the Malaysian Remote Sensing Agency by Airbus, show
several light-coloured objects The images, given to the Malaysian Remote Sensing
Agency by Airbus, show several light-coloured objects


A further 122 objects potentially from the missing Malaysian plane have been
identified by satellite, the country's acting transport minister has said.

The images, taken on 23 March, showed objects up to 23m (75ft) in length,
Hishammuddin Hussein said.

All aircraft taking part in Wednesday's search have now left the area without
identifying debris from the plane.

Flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared on 8 March with 239
people on board.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1W7WqGmVchw

Jon Donnison reports from Fremantle Port in Perth, where much of the search
operation is based

The objects were found in satellite images from a 400 sq km area around 2,557km
(1588 miles) from Perth in Western Australia, Mr Hishammuddin said.




He said that it was not possible to tell whether the potential objects were from the
missing aircraft, but called them "another new lead that will help direct the search operation".

The images were supplied by French-based Airbus Defence and Space and were
given to the Malaysian Remote Sensing Agency on 25 March, Mr Hishammuddin said.

The images were passed on to the Australian Rescue and Co-ordination Centre in
Perth on Tuesday, he added.

The latest images are the fourth known collection of satellite pictures showing
possible debris in the southern Indian Ocean. No pieces have yet been recovered in
the search area, which has now been split into an east and west section.



Map showing the location of debris spotted on satellite images between 16 and 24
March The transport minister said Malaysia Airlines was "now taking a lead in
communicating with the families" and would be conducting its own press
conferences.

Aircraft leave area

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (Amsa), co-ordinating the search, said
that all aircraft involved had left the area without finding objects from the plane.

It said seven military and five civilian planes had taken part and a total of six
countries were now involved - Australia, New Zealand, the US, Japan, China and
the South Korea.

The commander of the Chinese search operation, Dong Yan, said his ships were still
looking for an object spotted by a plane earlier on Wednesday.

"The focus is on searching for floating objects, oil slicks, floating parts of the
external layer of the plane and people that may have fallen into the water," he told
Chinese television.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3G0IAArXkps

Hishammuddin Hussein: "This is another new lead that will help direct the search operation"

Australian authorities said on Wednesday that three more objects had earlier been
spotted by a civilian aircraft involved in the search.

However, it could not be confirmed whether they were related to the missing aircraft.

The search for debris from the missing plane is taking place in one of the world's
remotest regions.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kXOtX-pYA0U

The area is known as "the Roaring Forties" due to its notoriously strong winds

If debris confirmed to be from the plane is found, the search area will narrow
further.However, experts say the aircraft's locator beacons, which will help guide
ships to the wreckage, now have less than two weeks of battery life remaining.
Specialised equipment which can help locate the beacon is being flown to the
search area.

vid on link....below

Daniel Tan says he will "not give up hope" that his brother is alive until a wreckage is found

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26748146

[Cidersomerset]

interesting article....



25 March 2014 Last updated at 09:56

Malaysia plane: Why black boxes can't always provide the answers
By Tom de Castella




The mystery of flight MH370 is unlikely to be solved until the flight recorder -
known as a black box - is found. There are actually two boxes - a cockpit voice
recorder and a data recorder. But these devices have their limitations.

The voice recorder only captures the final two hours

Listening to the last moments of Air France flight 447, which crashed into the
Atlantic in 2009, gives a chilling insight into the confusion that had overcome the
pilots. Such a record of what went on in the cockpit would be a priceless tool for
investigators trying to work out whether the Malaysia Airlines plane was the victim
of foul play or a mechanical fault. But it's not that simple even if the black box is
found. The cockpit voice recorder continually records over itself as the flight goes
on. US firm Honeywell Aerospace says the black box on the missing airliner - which
it provided - only retains two hours of recording. That's the length of time that
regulations demand. The principle is in place because it is normally the last section
of a flight that determines the cause of the crash. But in the case of the Malaysia
Airlines 777 it might well be the case that the key events happened long before the
actual crash. On the other hand, Steve Buzdygan, a former BA 777 pilot, says the
data recorder would provide a wealth of useful information. "You can almost
reconstruct the flight path from it."

Why is a 'black box' orange?

The original flight recorders were painted black but the colour was changed to
orange to make them easier to find by investigators
The flight data recorder records a stream of flight information
The cockpit voice recorder stores conversations and other noises made in the cockpit

The battery life is short

The black box sends out a ping - activated by immersion in water - that can be
picked up by a microphone and a "signal analyser". There's another beacon - the
emergency locator transmitter - which transmits a distress signal on impact. But
these don't work in water. Both the voice recorder and the data recorder each have
their own pinger. But there's a problem - the battery of the pinger on MH370 will
only last for 30 days, says Steve Brecken, media director at Honeywell. Some
pingers last for 90 days. The variation stems from the fact the rules changed after
Air France flight 447. It took nearly two years to find its black box and new
guidelines were issued that the ping should last for 90 days to give search teams
longer to find it. Some planes have since been updated, but apparently not the
MH370. Even after the batteries for the pinger run out, the recorded data remains intact.

Graphic: Black box flight recorders



It is a small object to find

The black box is bolted into the tail of the aircraft to avoid damage in a head-on
crash. It is small - about the size of a shoe box, says Dr Guy Gratton of Brunel
University's Flight Safety Lab. Contrary to the name, it is bright orange. But it's not
easy to see it in the middle of the ocean. The search will aim to try to locate the
wreckage before moving in to pinpoint the black box by picking up the ping. If the
pinger has expired then other techniques - such as magnetic detection - are going
to be necessary.

It doesn't float

The box is made out of aluminium and designed to withstand massive impact,
fierce fire or high pressure. That means it's heavy - about 10kg for what is a small
box - and will sink quickly. The Indian Ocean has very deep sections. The search
area ranges between 1,150m (3,770ft) and 7,000m (23,000ft) deep, media reports
suggest. So investigators will have to consider the prospect of it being out of reach
of many sonar devices. "You have to ask if there's terrain in the way. The seabed
could be as mountainous as the Alps," says David Barry, an expert on flight data monitoring at Cranfield University.

The First 'Black Box' From Downed Alaska Airlines Flight #261 - 2000



The pinger's range is only a few miles

Honeywell, who made MH370's pinger, say the signal can typically only be picked
up a mile away. David Mearns, director of Blue Water Recoveries, says this means
aircraft really needs to be almost directly on top of the black boxes to hear the
ping. There are also factors that may diminish the signal. Wreckage on the surface,
or if the black boxes are submerged in mud or sediment on the seabed, he adds.
But if the pinger is deep on the ocean floor navies have hydrophone technology that
has a better chance of locating it than conventional detectors. The Air France black
box was not found until after its ping had expired. It was eventually located by slow
moving unmanned underwater vehicles. A modern submarine - such as one of the
Royal Navy's hunter-killer models - could potentially at least hear a ping from many
miles away, Gratton says. The US, China and Australia all have similar submarines,
he says. "By now there will be a submarine down there. I'm certain the Chinese will
have put something out there." The US has deployed a ship that will tow a special
black box locator through the water. According to the Associated Press, "the Towed
Pinger Locator, which is pulled behind a vessel at slow speeds, has highly sensitive
listening capability so that if the wreck site is located, it can hear the black box
pinger down to a depth of about 20,000ft (6,100m)". However, there is a further
complication, says Barry. The black box may be giving off pings from the ocean
floor. But if those pings hit a layer of warmer or colder water above, the signal
might be refracted or reflected.




Black box finder graphic

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26721975

[Hervé]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
Does anyone know if control of a Boeing 777 can be taken away from the flight crew and be flown from a remote location?
If yes, please provide links to information sources.

[...]

All built-in:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Maybe this will give up some clues to electronics and flying specialists:

Special Conditions: Boeing Model 777-200, -300, and -300ER Series Airplanes; Aircraft Electronic System Security Protection From Unauthorized Internal Access

A Rule by the Federal Aviation Administration on 11/18/2013

PDF DEV Print Public Inspection
Publication Date: Monday, November 18, 2013
Agencies:Department of TransportationFederal Aviation Administration

Action
Final Special Conditions.

Summary
These special conditions are issued for the Boeing Model 777-200, -300, and -300ER series airplanes. These airplanes, as modified by the Boeing Company, will have novel or unusual design features associated with the architecture and connectivity of the passenger service computer network systems to the airplane critical systems and data networks. This onboard network system will be composed of a network file server, a network extension device, and additional interfaces configured by customer option. The applicable airworthiness regulations do not contain adequate or appropriate safety standards for this design feature. These special conditions contain the additional safety standards that the Administrator considers necessary to establish a level of safety equivalent to that established by the existing airworthiness standards.


Table of Contents Back to Top

• DATES:
• FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT:
• SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:
• Background
• Type Certification Basis
• Novel or Unusual Design Features
• Discussion
• Applicability
• Conclusion
• List of Subjects in 14 CFR Part 25
• The Special Conditions

[...]

Full article: https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...ctronic-system

Posted by chocolate (here)
...
I was thinking, Amzer Zo, may be you can create a separate thread out of your post # 721. It is quite informative!, and it will be a bit lost floating in this sea of information of a missing airplane.
... just a though, nothing more.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Nah... from what I understood of the "improvement" that's relevant is that such modified planes could be turned into drones by the military, no-one else.

Which brings me to the FauxNews-"officialized" official story:

[...]

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So, I guess that Diego Garcia at the opposite direction to Pakistan is the best fit to look for that phantom plane...

[Cidersomerset]

I thought I'd just as well add this one as there are some basic Q & A amongst them even if they are mainstream....




26 March 2014 Last updated at 10:37

Malaysia plane: 10 questions that are still unresolved

By Vanessa Barford
BBC News Magazine

Children write messages on a wall at Kuala Lumpur Airport





As the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 continues in the southern
Indian Ocean, some key questions remain unanswered.

Here are 10 questions about what happened to the Boeing 777 that disappeared
after leaving Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing on 8 March, with 239 people on board.

1. Why did the plane make a sharp left turn?

Military radar logs show flight MH370 turned unexpectedly west when it diverted
from its planned flight path, by which time the plane's transponder had already
been switched off, and its last ACARS datalink transmission sent.

Sudden turns like this are "extremely rare", according to Dr Guy Gratton of Brunel
University's Flight Safety Lab. He says the only real reason pilots are likely to make
such a manoeuvre is if there's a serious problem on the plane which makes them
decide to divert to a different destination, to get the aircraft on the ground.

That could be a fire, other aircraft in the area, or sudden decompression, according
to David Barry, an expert on flight data monitoring at Cranfield University.

Malicious intent - by a pilot or intruder - is another possibility.

But unless the "black box" flight recorders are found, whatever happened in the
cockpit at that moment will remain in the realms of speculation.

2. Is it reasonable to speculate that a pilot could have intended to kill himself?

There has been much speculation in the media that suicide might have been behind
the loss of the plane.

It wouldn't be the first time it's happened. The crashes of Egypt Air flight 990 in
1999 and Silk Air flight 185 in 1997 are both thought to have been caused
deliberately by a pilot, though the view has been contested. The Aviation Safety
Network says there have been eight plane crashes linked to pilot suicide since 1976.

So far, no evidence has been released from searches of the homes of Captain
Zaharie Ahmad Shah and his co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid that back up any similar
explanation for MH370. There has been speculation that Shah may have been upset
after breaking up with his wife, but there is so far no reliable source for his state of
mind. It's been reported police are still examining a flight simulator found in the
captain's home.

Barry says the apparent turning off of certain systems might give weight to the
theory, but "pilot suicide is a theory like any other". Gratton agrees. "There simply
isn't any evidence to prove or disprove it," he says.

3. Is a hijack scenario even possible?



Chief pilot of JetBlue Airways Lanny McAndrew, stands behind one of the new bullet-
force-resistant cockpit doors that have been installed on all JetBlue planes after the
September 11 attacks, October 17, 2001

Airliners have been fitted with strengthened flight deck doors - intended to prevent
intruders from taking control - since 9/11. David Learmount, safety editor at Flight
International magazine, says they are "bulletproof" and "couldn't be penetrated
with an axe".

Sylvia Wrigley, light aircraft pilot and author of Why Planes Crash, agrees it's
unlikely anyone would be able to force their way in. "Even if the door was being
broken down, they wouldn't be able to get in before there'd been a mayday call,
unless the pilots were incapacitated," she says.

However, one former pilot, who did not wish to be named, has suggested there is
theoretically a way to disable the lock and get into the flight deck.

But in any case, however secure the door, there are times when the door is open -
when a member of the crew either visits the toilet or has to check on something in
the cabin. It's always been pointed out that it would be possible to rush the cockpit
when this is the case. Some airlines, including Israel's El Al, have double doors to
guard against this scenario. Gratton says there's a procedure which requires a
member of the cabin crew to guard the door when it's opened.

But even in the event of hijackers rushing the cockpit, it would be easy for either
crew member to send a distress signal.

The security of the cockpit door offers protection against intruders, but it also
prevents action being taken if something does go wrong. Last month the co-pilot of
an Ethiopian Airlines flight waited for the pilot to go to the toilet before hijacking
the aircraft and flying it to Switzerland.

There's also the possibility that a pilot invited a passenger in. Photographs have
emerged of the co-pilot of MH370 entertaining teenage tourists in an aircraft
cockpit during a previous flight.

Boeing said it would be inappropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation.

4. Is there an accidental scenario that stands up to scrutiny?

So far most theories have been based on the assumption that the communications
systems and the plane's transponder were deliberately disabled, a view endorsed
by Malaysian officials.

However, Wrigley believes it's possible a sequence of events may have taken the
plane so far off course by accident. "Something could have gone wrong in stages. A
fire could have taken out part of the plane, or led to some systems failing, but left
the plane intact. Then there could have been decompression - not an explosive
decompression, but a gradual one," she says.

Wrigley cites the Helios Airways flight 522 which crashed into a mountain in Greece
in 2005 after a loss of cabin pressure and lack of oxygen incapacitated the crew,
but left the plane flying on autopilot, as an example. "If the Helios plane hadn't hit
the mountain, it would have kept going until it ran out of fuel. I'm not saying it's a
likely scenario, but it's not impossible," she says.

Pilots have pointed out that one of the very first actions in many emergency drills is
to send a message to air traffic control or some other form of signal. For a purely
accidental scenario to make sense, whatever initial event took place must have
simultaneously knocked out all regular means to communicate with the ground.

5. Why was no action taken when the plane's transponder signal went off?

MH370's transponder - which communicates with ground radar - was shut down as
the aircraft crossed from Malaysian air traffic control into Vietnamese airspace over
the South China Sea.

If a plane disappeared in Europe, Barry says someone in air traffic control would
have noticed and raised the alarm pretty quickly. Gratton agrees. "In Europe
handover is extremely slick.

"At the very least I'd expect air traffic controllers to try and contact a nearby
aircraft to try and establish direct contact. Pilots frequently use TCAS [traffic
collision avoidance system], which detects transponders of other aircraft to ensure
they aren't too close to each other," he adds.




Air traffic control screen Air traffic control

However Steve Buzdygan, a former BA 777 pilot, says that from memory, there's a
gap or "dead spot" of about 10 minutes in the VHF transmission before the plane
would have crossed into Vietnamese airspace.

Learmount says it's also perfectly feasible that nobody on the ground noticed the
plane's disappearance. "Malaysian air traffic control had probably handed it over to
the Vietnamese and forgotten about it. There could have been a five-minute delay
before anyone noticed the plane hadn't arrived - a gap in which nobody pressed the
alarm button," he says.

Even if air traffic control did notice the plane was amiss, they wouldn't necessarily
have made it public, he adds.

6. Why isn't it easier to track missing planes by military satellite?



Objects picked up by satellite being investigated by Australia

The search effort on seas some 2,500km (1,500 miles) to the south-west of the
Australian city of Perth has relied on images provided by commercial satellite
companies.

Dan Schnurr, chief technology officer at Geospatial Insight, says there are 20
known satellites that have a resolution capable of obtaining these images in
the "vast tracts of the ocean passing over the poles". Of those, probably about 10
of them capture images on a daily basis.

The images are beamed down from the satellites in very near real time, and are
probably on the ground within two or three hours of image capture, he says. The
delay in detecting valuable images is down to the time it takes to analyse the large
volume of imagery.

There are also satellite sources owned by the military and government, but these
have not been prominent in the search. This has led to some speculation that the
fate of the plane was known about earlier in the search, but not revealed.

Laurence Gonzales, author of flight 232: A Story of Disaster and Survival, says
some nations are bound to have more sophisticated surveillance systems than they
are letting on. "A very small, fast ballistic missile can be picked up easily, so how
can they lose a big, slow-moving object like a jumbo jet? It tells me somewhere in
the angles of power in the world someone knows where the plane is but doesn't
want to talk about it, probably for reasons of national security because they don't
want to reveal the sophistication of the material they have... that their satellite
technology is so good it can read a label on a golf ball," he says.

But Gratton says military satellites looking for ballistic missiles probably wouldn't
have thrown up much useful data because they wouldn't have been calibrated to pick up aircraft of this size.

"This aircraft was seven miles up and travelled at three-quarters of the speed of
sound. Ballistic missiles go up to four or five times the speed of sound, and 30 to
50 miles up - they have very different profiles," he says.

7. Did the plane glide into the sea or plunge after running out of fuel?



RSAF plane searches for MH370

The MH370's final moments seem to depend on whether the plane was still being
flown by a pilot.

"If it was under control, the plane was capable of being glided. The Airbus that
went into the New York's Hudson River lost both engines - which is an identical
outcome to running out of fuel - and the pilot managed to land on the water,"
Gratton says.

Barry agrees there could have been a gentle descent. "Aircraft of this size will
normally fly or glide over 50 miles before they hit the sea if they run out of fuel,"
he says. However, if no-one was at the controls, he says the descent could have
been "pretty severe".

8. Would the passengers have known something was wrong?

If a major malfunction had not occurred, it is unclear whether passengers would
have known anything was awry, especially if there were no obvious signs of a
struggle onboard. Joe Pappalardo, senior editor at Popular Mechanics magazine,
says in most scenarios where a plane flies off course for hours, passengers can
remain oblivious. At 01:00, many would probably have been asleep. In the
morning, the astute might have worked out the Sun was in the wrong position.



A Boeing 777 - stock picture Boeing 777s can fly higher than 40,000ft
Malaysian authorities have said the plane rose to 45,000ft, before falling to
23,000ft, after it changed course. If that's the case, passengers might have felt the
loss of altitude, according to Pappalardo.

However one theory is that the plane's apparent climb could have been designed to
induce hypoxia - oxygen deprivation - which could have knocked people
unconscious and even killed them.

Wrigley thinks it could have played out in one of two ways. "In the horror story
version passengers would have realised something was wrong as the plane climbed
- and a decompression event would have led to oxygen masks coming down, and
an awareness that oxygen was limited. A better scenario is they didn't know
anything had happened until impact," she says.

9. Why didn't passengers use their mobile phones?

One commonly asked question is why, if it had been obvious something was wrong,
passengers wouldn't have used mobile phones to call relatives and raise the alarm.
This seems especially puzzling in light of the example of United flight 93, where
passengers communicated with people on the ground after the plane was hijacked during 9/11.




Relative awaits news of MH370 Waiting for news of MH370 in Beijing
It's been stated that it's extremely unlikely that anyone could get mobile signal on
an airliner at 30,000ft. Barry agrees the chances of a mobile phone working on the
plane were "virtually impossible". "It can be hard to get a signal on a remote road,
let alone seven miles up, away from mobile phone masts, travelling at 500mph," he says.

10. Why can't planes be set up to give full real-time data to a satellite?



military personnel scanning the sea aboard a Vietnamese Air Force aircraft on 8 March
Arguably the most baffling thing to a layperson about the disappearance of MH370
is how it is even possible for a plane of this size to disappear so easily. In an era
when people are used to being able to track a stolen smartphone, it's perplexing
that switching off a couple of systems can apparently allow an airliner to vanish.

Barry says the technology exists to allow planes to give off full real-time data. The
problem is planes are "snapshots in time from when they are designed".

"We're doing research into devices that will allow aircraft to start transmitting
information by satellite when something unusual like a fire or decompression
happens, but it's hard to fit things into a plane retrospectively.

"The 777 went into service in the early 90s... the technology is of that era," he says.

However, Gratton says ACARS would have done the job if it hadn't been turned off.
A more complex satellite system would also be open to that risk, he argues, unless
the industry wanted to go with = a system that couldn't be manually switched off,
and that would come with other risks.

"It's not a particularly easy question. Is the bigger risk an aircraft going missing, or
electronics overheating? Both situations can't be met," he says.

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[Roisin]

I feel so bad for the relatives of those Chinese and Malaysian passengers on that plane because ancestor worship and superstitions having to with the spirit world still play a big role in their lives not only on a cultural basis but also in terms of their national cultural identity. This despite the fact that other philosophies and religions have sought to suppress that "world view" in the modern era in that part of the world.

Because that "world view" still prevails, they are not getting the kind of closure they need for real peace of mind wrt the after world fate of their deceased relatives. They may not practice those old world customs and traditions openly but many still do when it come to burial rites. If the body of the deceased is missing, then those who still adhere to those old beliefs are probably terrified that their loved one will be stuck in the netherworld of the hungry spirits.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Roisin (here)
I feel so bad for the relatives of those Chinese and Malaysian passengers on that plane because ancestor worship and superstitions having to with the spirit world still play a big role in their lives not only on a cultural basis but also in terms of their national cultural identity. This despite the fact that other philosophies and religions have sought to suppress that "world view" in the modern era in that part of the world.

Because that "world view" still prevails, they are not getting the kind of closure they need for real peace of mind wrt the after world fate of their deceased relatives. They may not practice those old world customs and traditions openly but many still do when it come to burial rites. If the body of the deceased is missing, then those who still adhere to those old beliefs are probably terrified that their loved one will be stuck in the netherworld of the hungry spirits.

They will soon find (present) some parts to this plane to help give the families some closure to this event.....

[Roisin]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
I feel so bad for the relatives of those Chinese and Malaysian passengers on that plane because ancestor worship and superstitions having to with the spirit world still play a big role in their lives not only on a cultural basis but also in terms of their national cultural identity. This despite the fact that other philosophies and religions have sought to suppress that "world view" in the modern era in that part of the world.

Because that "world view" still prevails, they are not getting the kind of closure they need for real peace of mind wrt the after world fate of their deceased relatives. They may not practice those old world customs and traditions openly but many still do when it come to burial rites. If the body of the deceased is missing, then those who still adhere to those old beliefs are probably terrified that their loved one will be stuck in the netherworld of the hungry spirits.

They will soon find (present) some parts to this plane to help give the families some closure to this event.....

Let's just hope that most will believe it wasn't planted there.