Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Limor (here)
What may apparently be rather unreasonable with such an item, (and should be very carefully considered, as Paul alluded), is that somehow it could be expected that an Air craft such as this would be left in the open in a hangar in Tel Aviv with the possibility to be detected. Unfortunately the agencies can be given a little more credit than this when doing their operations.

I have worked in and around these aviation areas and am familiar enough with both Airports in Tel Aviv as well as the area of the IAI (Israeli Air Industry) where they have those huge hangars in a close proximity to the airport. As an employee, it is sometimes possible to see foreign Airplanes being parked or getting treatment in one of those hangars, a lot of U.S. military Aircrafts as the U.S army obviously has relations with Israel. But a Malaysian Airplane is a 'No No' as Malaysia is a Muslim country and as such has no relationship with Israel, in fact, no one with a Malaysian passport can enter the country and vice versa, such an aircraft will be highly suspicious to anyone seeing it.

One more thought, it is relatively very easy to paint an Aircraft with any one Logo, it is sometimes done with advertisements for specific occasions and charter planes are being painted all the time and there is no necessity to actually bring a plane such as Boeing which is common enough to the country unless it has some special markings that can survive whatever they are planning for it. Something just does not add up with this story, the more I think about it.

Would Military intelligence have any need for an identical plane to practice controlling flight and communications for a future mission?

[Atlas]

Posted by Operator (here)
GA Telesis LLC [...] currently has a fleet of only 1 stored plane ... ? Weird indeed.

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[Atlas]

There Are a Lot of Satellites Out There

The search for the plane has highlighted the fact that dozens of nations have satellites in orbit that have the ability to take pictures of the earth below. In addition, many private companies operate satellites that take photos they then sell to foreign governments, including the United States government, according to Micah Walter-Range, Director of Research and Analysis for the Space Foundation.

"In terms of a rough count, there are more than 100 'Earth observation' and 'remote sensing' satellites in orbit at present, owned and operated by companies or by government agencies (both civil and military) from more than 30 countries, including developing nations such as Algeria, Nigeria, Venezuela, and Vietnam," Walter-Range said in an email to ABC today. Not all of the satellites currently orbiting the earth take images, he explained, but many do.

Companies are currently researching ways to stream live video of satellite images to the ground, so analysts could watch as satellites passed over the suspected debris field and report to search crews in real time, but Walter-Range said that technology is not commercially available yet. It is unknown whether government satellites have such capabilities.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by buares (here)
There Are a Lot of Satellites Out There

The search for the plane has highlighted the fact that dozens of nations have satellites in orbit that have the ability to take pictures of the earth below. In addition, many private companies operate satellites that take photos they then sell to foreign governments, including the United States government, according to Micah Walter-Range, Director of Research and Analysis for the Space Foundation.

"In terms of a rough count, there are more than 100 'Earth observation' and 'remote sensing' satellites in orbit at present, owned and operated by companies or by government agencies (both civil and military) from more than 30 countries, including developing nations such as Algeria, Nigeria, Venezuela, and Vietnam," Walter-Range said in an email to ABC today. Not all of the satellites currently orbiting the earth take images, he explained, but many do.

Companies are currently researching ways to stream live video of satellite images to the ground, so analysts could watch as satellites passed over the suspected debris field and report to search crews in real time, but Walter-Range said that technology is not commercially available yet. It is unknown whether government satellites have such capabilities.

Amazingly though none of these satellites were working March 8th....

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by buares (here)
There Are a Lot of Satellites Out There

The search for the plane has highlighted the fact that dozens of nations have satellites in orbit that have the ability to take pictures of the earth below. In addition, many private companies operate satellites that take photos they then sell to foreign governments, including the United States government, according to Micah Walter-Range, Director of Research and Analysis for the Space Foundation.

"In terms of a rough count, there are more than 100 'Earth observation' and 'remote sensing' satellites in orbit at present, owned and operated by companies or by government agencies (both civil and military) from more than 30 countries, including developing nations such as Algeria, Nigeria, Venezuela, and Vietnam," Walter-Range said in an email to ABC today. Not all of the satellites currently orbiting the earth take images, he explained, but many do.

Companies are currently researching ways to stream live video of satellite images to the ground, so analysts could watch as satellites passed over the suspected debris field and report to search crews in real time, but Walter-Range said that technology is not commercially available yet. It is unknown whether government satellites have such capabilities.

Amazingly though none of these satellites were working March 8th....

can't blame it on sunflares, the sun was quiet...

[Atlas]

Ex Malaysian Air CEO defends MH370 pilot:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nsZ5KKgIgkQ

[Hervé]

Diego Garcia Military Base: Islanders Forcibly Deported

By Sherwood Ross Global Research, March 27, 2014
27 October 2009
Region: USA
Theme: Militarization and WMD

In order to convert the sleepy, Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia into a dominating military base, the U.S. forcibly transported its 2,000 Chagossian inhabitants into exile and gassed their dogs.

By banning journalists from the area, the U.S. Navy was able to perpetrate this with virtually no press coverage, says David Vine, an assistant professor of anthropology at American University and author of “Island of Shame: the Secret History of the U.S. Military on Diego Garcia(Princeton University Press).”

“The Chagossians were put on a boat and taken to Mauritius and the Seychelles, 1,200 miles away, where they were left on the docks, with no money and no housing, to fend for themselves,” Vine said on the interview show “Books Of Our Time,” sponsored by the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover.

“They were promised jobs that never materialized. They had been living on an island with schools, hospitals, and full employment, sort of like a French coastal village, and they were consigned to a life of abject poverty in exile, unemployment, health problems, and were the poorest of the poor,” Vine told interview host Lawrence Velvel, dean of the law school.

Their pet dogs were rounded up and gassed, and their bodies burned, before the very eyes of their traumatized owners, Vine said.

“They were moved because they were few in number and not white,” Vine added. The U.S. government circulated the fiction the Chagossians were transient contract workers that had taken up residence only recently but, in fact, they had been living on Diego Garcia since about the time of the American Revolution. Merchants had imported them to work on the coconut and copra plantations. Vine said the U.S. government induced The Washington Post not to break a story spelling out events on the island.

“Through Diego Garcia,” Vine pointed out, “the U.S. can project its power throughout the Middle East, and from East Africa to India, Australia and Indonesia. With Guam, the island is the most important American base outside the U.S.” He said U.S. bases now number around 1,000, including 287 in Germany, 130 in Japan and Okinawa, and 57 in Italy.

“Bases have been essential tools of U.S. military and economic power since not long after independence,” Vine pointed out. “We had bases all the way to the Pacific. After the Civil War, the U.S. began to acquire coaling bases in the Pacific.”

Although the Chagossians were forcibly removed in 1971, they still hope to return, Vine says, and refer to their period of exile as one of “profound sorrow.” Vine says they would be happy to live on the unused eastern portion of the island and work at the base but the U.S. instead “imports contract labor from other areas so they can send them home when the job is done.” The island’s exiled survivors and their descendants today number about 5,000.

Long off limits to reporters, the Red Cross, and all other international observers and far more secretive than Guantánamo Bay, many long suspected the island was a clandestine CIA “black site” for high-profile detainees, Vine wrote in a related article. Journalist Stephen Grey’s 2006 book “Ghost Plane” documented the presence on the island of a CIA-chartered plane used for rendition flights. On two occasions former U.S. Army General Barry McCaffrey publicly named Diego Garcia as a detention facility. And a Council of Europe report named the atoll, along with those in Poland and Romania, as a secret prison.

The island became “a major launch pad” for the U.S. attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, Vine said. In addition to its capacious harbor, the island readily supports some of the largest U.S. warplanes, including Air Force B-52s, B-1Bs and B-2s. Two years ago, the Pentagon awarded a $32 million contract to add a submarine base to the island’s arsenal.

Diego Garcia had been a British possession until 1966, when London allowed the U.S. to use it as a military base in exchange for cancelling a $14-million British debt for a military hardware purchase. Some idea of the size of the base may be conveyed by the fact it is said by the Pentagon to contain 654 buildings.

In a related article about Diego Garcia, Vine has written: “With support for the Chagossians’ struggle growing in both the United States and Britain at the same time that revelations about a secret CIA prison are spreading, the United States must finally act to remedy the damage done by another Guantánamo damaging too many lives and undermining its international legitimacy. The United States must allow the Chagossians to return and assist Britain in paying them proper compensation; the United States must close the detention facilities and open Diego Garcia to international investigators; the United States must end the painful irony that is a base the military calls the ‘Footprint of Freedom.’”

Sherwood Ross is a media consultant to the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover. Reach him at sherwoodross10@gmail.com

[panopticon]

Latest AMSA update on the new interpretation of data from Malaysian radar...

Search area being shifted North 1100 km.

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MEDIA RELEASE
28th March, 2014: 12.30pm (AEDT)

Search operation for Malaysia Airlines aircraft: Update 23

The search area for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has been updated after a new credible lead was provided to the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA).

As a result today’s search will shift to an area 1,100 kilometres to the north east based on updated advice provided by the international investigation team in Malaysia.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), Australia’s investigation agency, has examined this advice and determined that this is the most credible lead to where debris may be located.

The new search area is approximately 319,000 square kilometres and around 1,850 kilometres west of Perth.

The new information is based on continuing analysis of radar data between the South China Sea and the Strait of Malacca before radar contact was lost.

It indicated that the aircraft was travelling faster than previously estimated, resulting in increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance the aircraft travelled south into the Indian Ocean.

ATSB advises the potential flight path may be the subject of further refinement as the international investigative team supporting the search continues their analysis.

The Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation is re-tasking satellites to image the new area.

Weather conditions have improved in the area and ten aircraft are tasked for today’s search.

They include two Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) P3 Orions, a Japanese Coast Guard jet, a Japanese P3 Orion, a Republic of Korea P3 Orion, a Republic of Korea C130 Hercules, a Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion, a Chinese military Ilyushin IL-76, a United States Navy P8 Poseidon aircraft, and one civil jet acting as a communications relay.

A further RAAF P3 Orion has been placed on standby at Pearce to investigate any reported sightings.

There are now six vessels relocating to the new search area including HMAS Success and five Chinese ships.

AMSA and the ATSB will hold a press conference at 1430 (AEDT) to provide more details on the new search area.

Source

[gripreaper]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Amazingly though none of these satellites were working March 8th....

Come on, there aren't enough satellites. How could they possibly see anything?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ydbbd-4oEds

[panopticon]

Map showing new search area:



-- Pan

[panopticon]

Media release update 24 from AMSA.

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MEDIA RELEASE
28th March, 2014: 1430 (AEDT)

Search operation for Malaysia Airlines aircraft: Update 24

Australian Maritime Safety Authority Emergency Response General Manager John Young.
Australian Transport Safety Bureau Chief Commissioner Martin Dolan.

We would like to update you on some credible information AMSA has received from the ATSB which will see the search area refocused today.

The AMSA search for any sign of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has been shifted to an area north following advice from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau.

An international air crash investigation team in Malaysia provided updated advice to the ATSB, which has examined the information and determined an area 1100 kilometres to the north east of the existing search area is now the most credible lead as to where debris may be located.

The new search area is approximately 319,000 square kilometres, about 1850 kilometres west of Perth.

The Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation (AGO) is re-tasking satellites to capture images of the new area.

Weather conditions are better in the revised area and ten aircraft have been tasked for today’s search.

They include two Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) P3 Orions, a Japanese Coast Guard Gulfstream 5 jet, a Japanese P3 Orion, a Republic of Korea P3 Orion, a Republic of Korea C130 Hercules, a Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion, a Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force Ilyushin IL-76, a United States Navy P8 Poseidon aircraft, and one civil Australian jet acting as a communications relay.

Four of the ten aircraft are overhead the search area, with a further six planes to fly over the area today.

A further RAAF P3 Orion has been placed on standby at RAAF Base Pearce in WA to investigate any reported sightings.

Six ships are relocating to the new search area including HMAS Success and five Chinese ships.

Chinese Maritime Safety Administration (MSA) patrol ship, Haixun 01, is in the search area.

HMAS Success is expected to arrive in the search area late tomorrow night.

A US towed pinger locator and Bluefin-21 Autonomous Underwater Vehicle have arrived in Perth to assist with location and recovery of the black box.

The depth of the water in the search area is between 2000 and 4000 metres.

These will be fitted to Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield which will arrive in Western Australia in the coming days.

Australian Transport Safety Bureau Chief Commissioner Martin Dolan:

The ATSB, as Australia’s transport investigation agency, is working with a range of other international expert organisations to analyse available data and determine the best area to search.

The key pieces of information being analysed relate to early positional information from the aircraft and later polling of a satellite by an aircraft system.

The new information is based on continuing analysis of radar data between the South China Sea and the Strait of Malacca before radar contact was lost.

It indicated the plane was travelling faster than previously estimated, resulting in increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance it travelled south into the Indian Ocean.

The international investigative team supporting the search continues their analysis, which could still result in further refinement of the potential flight path.

This has been combined with information about the likely performance of the aircraft—such as speed and fuel consumption for example—to arrive at the best assessment of the area in which the aircraft is likely to have entered the water.

The information provided by the international investigative team is the most credible lead we currently have in the search of aircraft wreckage.

However, this information needs to be continually adjusted for the length of time elapsed since the aircraft went missing and the likely drift of any wreckage floating on the ocean surface.

Finally, let me stress that under international convention, Malaysia has investigative responsibility for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. At this stage, the ATSB’s main task is to assist in the search for the aircraft.

* All times expressed in Australian Eastern Daylight Time (AEDT).

Source

[panopticon]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_VydybVs78o

[araucaria]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Amazingly though none of these satellites were working March 8th....

Come on, there aren't enough satellites. How could they possibly see anything?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ydbbd-4oEds

Presumably, like surveillance cameras in Paris tunnels, satellites are switched off or out of order when most needed.

[Cidersomerset]

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28 March 2014 Last updated at 05:31


Royal Australian Air Force AP-3C Orion aircraft during a search operation. March 2014



The new area is closer to Western Australia and should allow for longer search periods


The search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has moved to a new part of
the Indian Ocean due to a "credible lead", Australia says.The Australian Maritime
Safety Authority (Amsa) said the search would now focus on an area 1,100km
north-east of the previous zone.The move was based on more analysis of radar
data that showed the plane was going faster, thus using more fuel.The Beijing-
bound airliner disappeared on 8 March with 239 people on board.

Malaysian officials have concluded that, based on satellite data, it flew into the sea
somewhere in the southern Indian Ocean. So far no trace of it has been found.
Search efforts had until Friday morning focused on an area some 2,500km (1,550
miles) to the south-west of the Australian city of Perth. But John Young, general
manager of Amsa's emergency response division, said that teams had "moved on"
from that area based on the new information.



Search area on 28 March 2014 (Image via Amsa) Teams are now searching a new
area, in yellow, north-east of the previous zone, in grey
'Reduced distance'A statement from Amsa - which is co-ordinating the search - said
the new information had come from the international investigation team in
Malaysia. This was based on "continuing analysis of radar data between the South
China Sea and the Strait of Malacca before radar contact was lost", Amsa said.


Short vid on link...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26780897

Amsa's John Young: "The search has moved from the 'roaring forties'

"It indicated that the aircraft was travelling faster than previously estimated,
resulting in increased fuel usage and reducing the possible distance the aircraft
travelled south into the Indian Ocean."

It said that the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) had determined that this
was "the most credible lead to where debris may be located".

The new search area is about 1,850km west of Perth and covers some 319,000 sq
km (123,000 sq miles).Mr Young, of Amsa, said it represented the "best estimate of
the area in which the aircraft is likely to have entered the ocean" and took account
of possible drift. The new search area was outside the "roaring forties" bad weather
zone, meaning conditions were likely to be better. Aircraft would also be able to
spend more time in the area because it was closer to land, he said.

The potential flight path could be the subject of further refinement as investigations
continued, Amsa said, adding that satellites would now focus on the new area.Amsa
said nine military aircraft would be scouring the area on Friday, with a civilian
aircraft acting as a communications relay.Five ships from China and one from
Australia were also relocating to that area. One Chinese patrol ship was already at
the scene, Amsa said.

Major challenge

Mystery still surrounds the fate of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 which vanished
from civilian radar screens less than an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.
The reason why the airliner veered off course and lost contact with air traffic
controllers continues to baffle experts.The remote and vast expanse of ocean has
turned the search into a major challenge.

Using satellite images, several nations have identified objects floating in the sea in
the previous search area, but these have not been located and there is no evidence
that they are related to the plane. Some relatives of the flight's 153 Chinese
passengers have refused to accept the Malaysian account of events and accused
officials of withholding information.Earlier, China's state news agency Xinhua said
that Chinese insurance firms had begun to offer payouts to the relatives.

On Thursday, Malaysia Airlines took out a full-page condolence advertisement in
the New Straits Times, saying: "Our sincerest condolences go out to the loved ones
of the 239 passengers, friends and colleagues. Words alone cannot express our
enormous sorrow and pain."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26780897

[araucaria]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
.
It said that the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) had determined that this
was "the most credible lead to where debris may be located".

The new search area is about 1,850km west of Perth and covers some 319,000 sq
km (123,000 sq miles).Mr Young, of Amsa, said it represented the "best estimate of
the area in which the aircraft is likely to have entered the ocean" and took account
of possible drift. The new search area was outside the "roaring forties" bad weather
zone, meaning conditions were likely to be better. Aircraft would also be able to
spend more time in the area because it was closer to land, he said.

The potential flight path could be the subject of further refinement as investigations
continued, Amsa said, adding that satellites would now focus on the new area.Amsa
said nine military aircraft would be scouring the area on Friday, with a civilian
aircraft acting as a communications relay.Five ships from China and one from
Australia were also relocating to that area. One Chinese patrol ship was already at
the scene, Amsa said.

Major challenge

Mystery still surrounds the fate of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 which vanished
from civilian radar screens less than an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.
The reason why the airliner veered off course and lost contact with air traffic
controllers continues to baffle experts.The remote and vast expanse of ocean has
turned the search into a major challenge.

Using satellite images, several nations have identified objects floating in the sea in
the previous search area, but these have not been located and there is no evidence
that they are related to the plane. Some relatives of the flight's 153 Chinese
passengers have refused to accept the Malaysian account of events and accused
officials of withholding information.Earlier, China's state news agency Xinhua said
that Chinese insurance firms had begun to offer payouts to the relatives.

They seem happiest with the idea that this plane was not going anywhere, no landfall in this direction, so no suspected destinations and plenty of sea to look at. If you are just pretending, it makes sense to look preferably where the weather is not too bad and not too far from land. Otherwise you are not more likely to find debris here – you are more likely to find debris where the aircraft came down, if that is what it did.

[Jean-Luc]

As a conspiracy analyst,

- based on the well documented research above,
- and on official information on Erdogan in Turkey (Source : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...-wanted-banned)

I think we can reasonably assume, for the time being, that while the other day 'pharaoh' Obama was visiting Amsterdam for a NATO meeting, Brussels for commemorations of WWI and Rome -- where he discussed poverty with Pope Francis -- with an armada of two Air Force One, two Cadillac, seven helicopters and 1000 security people,

- information on plans for a false flag attack by a NATO country, namely Turkey, against Syria was leaked
- and another false flag attack by a major non-NATO ally (MNNA), namely Israel, against Iran was failed.

Interesting times.

[panopticon]

Full press conference from AMSA & ATSB (14:30 28th March 2014) on the reason for shifting the MH370 search site.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=flqc2mda9XU

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U2GXxcGkCb0

Original video sourced from:
http://amsa.gov.au/media/incidents/mh370-search.asp

I'm including these for later reference.

-- Pan

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
I think we can reasonably assume, for the time being, that while the other day 'pharaoh' Obama was visiting Amsterdam for a NATO meeting, Brussels for commemorations of WWI and Rome -- where he discussed poverty with Pope Francis -- with an armada of two Air Force One, two Cadillac, seven helicopters and 1000 security people,

- information on plans for a false flag attack by a NATO country, namely Turkey, against Syria was leaked
- and another false flag attack by a major non-NATO ally (MNNA), namely Israel, against Iran was failed.

Interesting times.

Yes, very interesting.

[panopticon]

As if on cue AMSA is reporting:

RNZAF Orion spotted objects in #MH370 search area, identity to be established. Soon to land @ RAAF Pearce. AMSA awaiting imagery.
Sightings need confirmation by ship - not expected until tomorrow.
AMSA News Twitter

-- Pan

[Gardener]

So while everyone had satelites, planes, ships, news media and attention focused on previous search area................[]