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    To many reading this, this will be stating the obvious: but I'm concerned now that no debris from the Southern Ocean will now be announced to be from the plane. The fruitless search will eventually be called off. The logic tree goes:
    • If it were part of a larger scenario for it to have been officially stated that "proof" had been found of the plane having ditched there, it would have been announced already (whether or not real wreckage had actually been found). NOT good that they're still looking.
    • I strongly suspect that decent men and women, having spent tens of thousands of person-hours diligently searching, will be quietly saying to each other: "You know, the thing's not really around here at all". But, of course, they have to continue to follow orders.
    • But: I'm hoping/intending that even if that was the original plan, that plan has somehow gone awry in ways we can't yet know about -- and that nothing 'bad' will happen at all (the logic being that if this had been the original masterplan, it would very probably have happened already). That would mean, then, that the plane will never be recovered -- anywhere -- and it will never emerge what occurred; unless a real insider whistleblower tells all in years to come.

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    A trusted source of mine within the last four months told me that there were some very odd air exercises going on up at Eilson AFB in AK. My source is stationed up there. He said he thought is was strange to see commercial aircraft with recognizable logos training with military aircraft. He is pretty straight laced. If he thought it was odd I would have to say it was very strange indeed,

    Just food for thought, I don't know if it is anything but thought it deserved a mention.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    To many reading this, this will be stating the obvious: but I'm concerned now that no debris from the Southern Ocean will now be announced to be from the plane. The fruitless search will eventually be called off. The logic tree goes:
    • If it were part of a larger scenario for it to have been officially stated that "proof" had been found of the plane having ditched there, it would have been announced already (whether or not real wreckage had actually been found). NOT good that they're still looking.
    • I strongly suspect that decent men and women, having spent tens of thousands of person-hours diligently searching, will be quietly saying to each other: "You know, the thing's not really around here at all". But, of course, they have to continue to follow orders.
    • But: I'm hoping/intending that even if that was the original plan, that plan has somehow gone awry in ways we can't yet know about -- and that nothing 'bad' will happen at all (the logic being that if this had been the original masterplan, it would very probably have happened already). That would mean, then, that the plane will never be recovered -- anywhere -- and it will never emerge what occurred; unless a real insider whistleblower tells all in years to come.
    I think we are about to see the weirdness go in to overdrive.
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    I think what was originally planned has been well and truly scuppered and whoever instigated it is going to keep shtum and let the conspiratorialist cancel each other out over time.
    Sapere aude

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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
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    The closer that millions of online sleuths come to tracing the trajectory and destination of the missing Malaysian Airlines jetliner, the likelier it becomes that the National Security Agency and CIA will resort to disinformation, including the planting of falsified evidence, to throw off their pursuers in what increasingly appears to be an electronic hijacking by those spy agencies.

    More layers of the ongoing cover-up are being hatched now that eyewitnesses at the Huvadhu Atoll, a diving area in the southern Maldives,, have reported sightings of "a low-flying jumbo jet.: South of Huvadhu Atoll, the closest U.S. military facility is Diego Garcia in the Chagos Islands. The joint U.S. Navy submarine and Air Force facility has underground hangers huge enough to conceal B-52 bombers, a convenient hiding place for a Boeing-777.

    Huvadhu is a prominent marker in the vast Indian Ocean, used as the turning point for flights into Diego Garcia. There valuable cargo - either classified documents or a human intelligence asset - can be secretly landed and reloaded on a USAF cargo jet or a Navy submarine. Countless secret and illegal "extraordinary rendition" flights were sent to Diego Garcia in the war on terror, and there is no practical reason why the same US intelligence agencies would not use it to land a civilian aircraft hijacked by remote control.

    Pieces of the wreckage spotted by US ally Australia further south of Diego Garcia could be a decoy site, salted with physical evidence of airplane parts that have been moved surreptitiously. As in the unsolved mystery of Amelia Earhart, who was on an espionage mission against the Japanese forces in the South Pacific before her disappearance, there is the possibility that a hostile military force moved tantalizing evidence from the actual landing site to a more distant remote island by plane or ship.

    Malaysia Targeted by Air-Sea Battle Plan

    The case of a MH370 has been solely focused on the possibility of a route diversion by the on-board crew. Completely ignored in press releases and news reports so far is the elephant in the room, or perhaps a better analogy of a Great White Shark in the bathtub - the massive U.S. Navy and Air Force presence in the seas and airspace surrounding Malaysia.

    There is absolutely no way that a flying object as large as a Boeing-777 could evade the 24-hour watch over the South China Sea and the Andaman Sea by NSA-USAF spy satellites, high-tech AEGIS destroyers, the new class of Littoral Combat Ships and P3 surveillance planes.

    The reasons for targeting Malaysia becomes clearer ..... More
    Excellent find Ron, great article and no rehash of what we already know. Some history of problems between US and Malaysia and also the covering of how extensive the area is covered with surveillance, therefore impossible to hide the jet unless the jet did not go down in water. Great read.

    The Malaysian government may be worried of the same as Bill is, if we read that article brought up by Ron. And it does explain why they would contradict themselves when speaking to the public. They did not know which path to take in order to avoid the wrath of the US, as happened to Lybia or Syria.

    Please read, it is a great article. The only thing lacking is the potential, if not probable, electronic components that were created by the bunch of specialists on that filght and the potential for biological warfare containers in that plane. All the other potential reasons for taking the plane are explained. And it too leads to Diego Gardia.

    As PTB always tries to hit many targets in one shot, Malaysia would have been hit, China would understand the message, highly specialise technical people developing equipement for spy agencies have been taken and may work for the black projects now, and the biological warfare containers ceased and studied and for use later.
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    Kerry's Cassidy today.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    To many reading this, this will be stating the obvious: but I'm concerned now that no debris from the Southern Ocean will now be announced to be from the plane. The fruitless search will eventually be called off. The logic tree goes:
    • If it were part of a larger scenario for it to have been officially stated that "proof" had been found of the plane having ditched there, it would have been announced already (whether or not real wreckage had actually been found). NOT good that they're still looking.
    • I strongly suspect that decent men and women, having spent tens of thousands of person-hours diligently searching, will be quietly saying to each other: "You know, the thing's not really around here at all". But, of course, they have to continue to follow orders.
    • But: I'm hoping/intending that even if that was the original plan, that plan has somehow gone awry in ways we can't yet know about -- and that nothing 'bad' will happen at all (the logic being that if this had been the original masterplan, it would very probably have happened already). That would mean, then, that the plane will never be recovered -- anywhere -- and it will never emerge what occurred; unless a real insider whistleblower tells all in years to come.
    if the plane really had problems, someone from Rolls-Royce took the page from the printer, walked into the bosses office and said hey, there is something wrong with this plane...

    Quote Malaysian 777: Engine data not tracked for hours, says source

    The Malaysian Airlines 777 missing since Friday was not tracked for hours by engine maker Rolls-Royce after losing touch with air traffic control, contrary to a report in Thursday’s Wall Street Journal. Investigators may have had periodic contacts with another set of signals from the jet... link
    not tracked for hours, did anyone happen to ask why?

    Don't they monitor flights to report emergencies to local authorities, but for some reason, not this plane?

    does it communicate through the same equipment as the plane, or does it have a satcom of its own?
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    Read the text Ron has suggested Rocky, there was much much more surveillance than Rolls Royce.

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    but this says so much...

    not tracked for hours...

    why didn't they just say our signal stopped at the same time control lost contact...

    where did it appear? where was it going...

    or, where was it parked?


    Boeing and Rolls-Royce both receive info from the same system?


    that's a lot of people that know...


    they changed the story quick but I wanted to remind everyone about the puzzle piece at the beginning, did it get picked up by India ground stations after hours of silence?

    more people that know and are being hushed...
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Plane taken not crashed ?? Thought provoking interview with partner of Philip Wood



    'Governments are intentionally misleading us' on Malaysia plane - BBC News




    BBC News

    Published on 28 Mar 2014


    In a powerful interview the partner of Philip Wood, a passenger on #MH370,
    said the search for the flight 'feels like an intentional series of distractions'.
    Sarah Bajc wants the authorities to withdraw the original statement about
    the flight being down due to 'new evidence'.
    If like me you thought that this was a very cool, calm and collected interview from someone who has supposedly lost her partner, not even dead but missing, you may be intererested to learn that she was the managing director of the Israeli corporation Tescom. From Jeff Rense (at c. 12 mins):

    Quote Posted by giovonni (here)
    Jeff Rense & Yoichi Shimatsu - Flt 370 - Israeli Intel Double-Cross

    Clip from March 31, 2014 / Published on Apr 3, 2014

    Refreshed & updated


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    4 April 2014 Last updated at 09:18

    Malaysia plane MH370: Pinger locator deployed in search


    Richard Westcott reports on the use of a pinger locator to find a black box


    Search teams have begun using a towed pinger locator to hunt for the black box of
    missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

    Two ships with locator capabilities are searching a 240km (150 mile) underwater
    path, in the hope of recovering the plane's data recorder.

    Up to 14 planes and nine ships were due to take part in Friday's search.

    The plane disappeared on 8 March en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It was
    carrying 239 people.

    It is believed to have crashed in the southern Indian Ocean, although no confirmed
    debris has been found from the plane.

    The search is being co-ordinated from the city of Perth in Western Australia.

    The battery-powered pingers on the plane's black box stop transmitting about 30
    days after a crash, giving the searchers now perhaps only a few days to locate it.

    'Highest probability'

    Angus Houston, head of the Joint Agencies Coordination Centre (JACC) leading the
    search, said that two ships had "commenced the sub-surface search for emissions
    from [the] black box pinger".

    Australia naval vessel Ocean Shield was using a towed pinger locator from the US
    Navy, while HMS Echo, which had similar capabilities, was also searching.





    Officials said there was "some hope" the locators would be able to find the black box

    read more...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26849818

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    I just noticed this article about Diego Garcia and imperial lies in exchange
    for a Polaris missile discount. An insight to the BS of beaurocrats who ignore
    indigenous peoples rights, both the US & UK have a debt to pay.



    March 28 2014 Breaking News MH370 Pilot Home flight simulator had USA Military base Diego Garcia




    The indigenous population were forced to leave....
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    This documentary basically goes thru what mainstream has been reporting,
    from catastrophic accident to cyber hijacking, its useful for a time line update.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The Disappearance Of Flight MH370: 14 Days That Gripped The World



    Published on 25 Mar 2014


    On Saturday 8 March, Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 took off for Beijing from Kuala Lumpur
    with 239 passengers and crew on board; around one hour after take-off the Boeing 777
    vanished from the radar screens. No one knows for sure what happened.

    This fast turnaround documentary tells the 14-day story of a mystery that has shaken
    modern aviation to its very core, and which will have a far-reaching impact on the
    monitoring and security of future air travel.

    Was it pilot error, technical failure, terrorism or some other freak occurrence? Using
    exclusive archive and testimony from some of the world's leading aviation and
    security experts, we will track the search efforts, investigate the theories and
    examine the latest evidence.
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)


    4 April 2014 Last updated at 09:18

    Malaysia plane MH370: Pinger locator deployed in search


    Richard Westcott reports on the use of a pinger locator to find a black box


    Search teams have begun using a towed pinger locator to hunt for the black box of
    missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

    Two ships with locator capabilities are searching a 240km (150 mile) underwater
    path, in the hope of recovering the plane's data recorder.

    Up to 14 planes and nine ships were due to take part in Friday's search.

    The plane disappeared on 8 March en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. It was
    carrying 239 people.

    It is believed to have crashed in the southern Indian Ocean, although no confirmed
    debris has been found from the plane.

    The search is being co-ordinated from the city of Perth in Western Australia.

    The battery-powered pingers on the plane's black box stop transmitting about 30
    days after a crash, giving the searchers now perhaps only a few days to locate it.

    'Highest probability'

    Angus Houston, head of the Joint Agencies Coordination Centre (JACC) leading the
    search, said that two ships had "commenced the sub-surface search for emissions
    from [the] black box pinger".

    Australia naval vessel Ocean Shield was using a towed pinger locator from the US
    Navy, while HMS Echo, which had similar capabilities, was also searching.





    Officials said there was "some hope" the locators would be able to find the black box

    read more...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26849818
    Just as I predicted ... late in their time window they will look for the pinger just late enough to conveniently
    hear the last life-signals of it to identify the plane and then conclude that it is too deep and the pinger is
    not much of a help any longer to locate the plane and launch a DSRV to confirm it.

    I suspect a DSRV would find only the blackbox or perhaps even only the pinger ... (easy to drop off while prying eyes are watching).

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    Plane taken not crashed?? Thought provoking interview with partner of Philip Wood






    Bumping this short but very powerful interview above -- WOW.

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    Using her intuition she feels Philip is still alive. It maybe she
    is trying to tell 'them' she knows what is happening. She gets
    more emotional by the end of the interview. But its sounds
    like she may know more than she can say, or it maybe I'm
    being influenced by the Jeff Rense vid above.

    Still a lot more to this story than meets the eye as we all know.


    Partner of missing man on Flight 370 gives emotional plea



    Published on 28 Mar 2014


    CNN's Anderson Cooper talks with Sarah Bajc,
    partner to Flight 370's American passenger Philip Wood.

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Using her intuition she feels Philip is still alive. It maybe she
    is trying to tell 'them' she knows what is happening. She gets
    more emotional by the end of the interview. But its sounds
    like she may know more than she can say, or it maybe I'm
    being influenced by the Jeff Rense vid above.

    Still a lot more to this story than meets the eye as we all know.


    Partner of missing man on Flight 370 gives emotional plea



    Published on 28 Mar 2014


    CNN's Anderson Cooper talks with Sarah Bajc,
    partner to Flight 370's American passenger Philip Wood.
    Alternatively, it may be an attempt at damage limitation after lack of emotion in the earlier interview, which contained things like


    Quote - That must be incredibly difficult for you emotionally.
    - Ah, it’s frustrating. I think we are all being hoodwinked…
    I have no idea either way. Notice though how the emotion here only came at the very end, meaning that an actor would only have to break down momentarily and not keep up the act for any length of time.

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Using her intuition she feels Philip is still alive. It maybe she
    is trying to tell 'them' she knows what is happening. She gets
    more emotional by the end of the interview. But its sounds
    like she may know more than she can say, or it maybe I'm
    being influenced by the Jeff Rense vid above.

    Still a lot more to this story than meets the eye as we all know.


    Partner of missing man on Flight 370 gives emotional plea



    Published on 28 Mar 2014


    CNN's Anderson Cooper talks with Sarah Bajc,
    partner to Flight 370's American passenger Philip Wood.
    Alternatively, it may be an attempt at damage limitation after lack of emotion in the earlier interview, which contained things like


    Quote - That must be incredibly difficult for you emotionally.
    - Ah, it’s frustrating. I think we are all being hoodwinked…
    I have no idea either way. Notice though how the emotion here only came at the very end, meaning that an actor would only have to break down momentarily and not keep up the act for any length of time.
    I do not agree with you. Why, because I know I could withold my emotions if the life of my daughter was in jeopardy for example. I would be coherent to make sure I have an impact and be totally wasted and brake down right after the interview. Some people do have control when the situation demands it.

    She is used to television, she knows that an highly emotional presentation won't pass the ramp of television and won't reach the kidnappers.
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    cautiously saying, something about this woman feels 'off' to me. There seems to be a real spin going on in the way they 'test' the water with the public these days, it is no more an immersion of the finger to check the temprature, but throwing of some large stones that are squirting all over. An alarming new trend seems to be going on since the 'Sandy Hook shooting' which seems to mix the drama of acting school with real life.

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    cautiously saying, something about this woman feels 'off' to me. There seems to be a real spin going on in the way they 'test' the water with the public these days, it is no more an immersion of the finger to check the temprature, but throwing of some large stones that are squirting all over. An alarming new trend seems to be going on since the 'Sandy Hook shooting' which seems to mix the drama of acting school with real life.
    you are right, testing the waters is for sure, but I do not think it is the way you seem to think. That woman is a Professional and has been around studios for ages. She is used to present without emotions, as any good reported does when presenting in a war situation for example. And she is doing her job. What is the difference here is that in her first video, she was quite clear about the plane having been hijacked and asking Malaysia to say so and take of the passenger from a dead people list, while in the second she is not as affirmative, rather begging than anything else. Add to this that she said her intuition said so, making her discountable right away by most people.

    She definitely knows much more than she says and my bet is that she has been threatened. So she walks on glass right now, she wants her boyfriend alive and her own life to live. A bet of mine. That would be why she feels off for some of us.

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