Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Roisin]

As I stated before in past posts in this forum wrt this missing plane, that plane never crashed in the Indian Ocean. The information in the above 2 news documents confirm that sentiment very strongly.

That information is not based on conjectures but on hard-core verifiable scientific fact.

[Roisin]

Posted by buares (here)
So why do they use the exact same quote ?

Posted by Roisin (here)

But tests over the weekend had confirmed that "neither an explosion nor a plane crash on land or on water had been detected so far," Dujarric said Monday.

Posted by buares (here)

neither an explosion nor a plane crash on land or on water had been detected so far,” Spokesman for UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon Stephane Dujarric told reporters here yesterday.

Thanks for pointing that out! Very interesting!

The NBC article on this was published today, April 8th So it appears that it left out that the information was taken from that original article published on March 18th but it didn't state that in their article.

At any rate, that it was not published by a major news organization (NBC) until today indicates that we are not getting some important news updates on this missing plane in the kind of timely fashion that would allow the avg. person to make informed opinions about this missing plane.

Once again, this information gives credible support to the contention that the plane never crashed in the Indian Ocean in the first place!

[Lifebringer]

Gee, I wonder if they'll go to internet to find out about the Wood's fellow text, the 3 disc on the radar screens of all the air traffic controllers, or the fact they shape shifted into plane shapes before interception.

Also, how the plane upon take off, was being monitored, by one of the shape shifting disc/planes at the back of the runway, looking as if it was to take off after MH307. Funny how all the disc shape shifting planes disappeared off the radar screen after MH first made several directional changes, right, left, right, then massive speed, (faster than other plane blips on screen) whizzing by other planes, and then the disc in front, closing in slowly as a plane would upon collision, and then "NO planes or disc on radar.) Three air traffic controllers downloaded on You Tube the public recorded minute by minute occurrence, posting it the 2nd day. Then comes the Diego base news, and then nothing. So someone is saying the plane exploded, and the UN, and other scientist of expertise, are saying: "Hold on, THERE WAS NO EXPLOSION, SO YOUR HYPOTHICIZING IS MOOT."

LOL

It's gonna all come out next week or so. Too many families witnessed this "incompetent blunder on mic, or temporary abduction, by "natti" or ET trying to get the truth to 289 passengers. But I think the 2nd scenario of "faux tragedy to absorb emotion to keep them strong" has slowly unraveled their whole tapestry of hidden manipulating of the masses/population, by mic to distract from the ICCC and the banker suicides as well as all the stuff with the Fort Hood, cia suicide by top guy? Hmm... sounds like a buckle up and keep your eyes peeled for the sthtf" on them as they have tried to do unto us. Ahhh...God/Source is good.

So far, three scenerios/possibilities, and NONE of them a plane "crash."

Like it or not, the stuff is gonna come out and I also wonder whether the Vatican will be the announcers because the GOP are causing so much crapola for the corporations, that the Prez can't get a serious answer or announcement otherwise. Can you imagine some declaring that "he isn't the one to handle it, and then the "hidden mic hand" declare martial law, setting off chain reactions of people's/citizen's rights being stripped. My guess is if new POPE is just a figure head in the Vatican, because the old master won't step down and is hiding from prosecution for cult pedophilia and murder, that the new Pope will make the move to expose them all for the liars over the centuries for power and manipulation. What if.....you betcha, all day long.

[Roisin]

The you tube video on the link below is an excellent presentation on how the CTBTO’s International Monitoring System (IMS) works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6t9...0AED1ACA175D02

[spiritguide]

The UN is a political organization. Repeat, the UN is a political organization. How can you tell when a politician lies? a: When they move their mouths. The history of the UN and it's goals are outlined and it is a dismal failure to date. UN peacekeeping is a laugh IMHO.

Peace!

[Roisin]

Now that we know that the plane never crashed into the Indian Ocean, the question is, who or what has been orchestrating that search in the Indian for that plane?

Selene posted some very interesting information a couple of days ago in another thread on the topic of how they came about focusing in that ocean and that they were most likely directed to that area by US Intelligence:

I think the calculation here is a much darker and more cynical one than that of the US simply being seen as The Good Guys. It is in the realm of high stakes political poker, in that Machiavellian stream of “never letting a good crisis go to waste.”

Herewith:

• Let’s assume the plane actually went down catastrophically, for whatever reason: mechanical failure, failed hijacking, suicide, it was Thursday. Whatever.

• The US spy-in-the-sky system, calibrated to watch weapons movements, explosions of any type, UFO arrivals and departures, golf balls in motion, etc is by far one of the secret government’s most closely held secrets. They saw the plane go down; they know exactly where and when.

However:

• All 239 lives have already been lost;

• At no time must this US secret space program be exposed or compromised. 239 casualties aren’t worth admitting to the level of surveillance we are under. That’s a non-starter.

• There is no true upside to leading a rescue, there’s only recovery of the remains to be had, but a big downside in exposing the secret program.


But an opportunity presents itself:


• Given the present superior position of China as the world’s largest holder of US Dollar Treasury bonds there’s much more upside for the secret government/cabal in using assistance in the recovery process to gain some much-needed political leverage with the Chinese.

• Beijing’s toes are not to be stepped on lightly by cavalierly denying them a prominent role in recovering their own citizens. Bigfooting it here would breed resentment and loss of face. This would be a serious tactical error and the Chinese have long memories. On the other hand, letting the Chinese be the heroes....

Therefore:

• Do you really think it’s “coincidence” that it was a Chinese vessel that made the lucky strike, hundreds of miles from the official search area?

• Or is it more likely that they were quietly pointed toward some “interesting coordinates” by “a friend”.....?

I know what I’d think...

Cheers,

Selene

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post819483


In my view, I'm not ruling out that the undersea technology that was generating those pings at what is alleged to be at the same frequency of airliner black boxes, could have been planted there by nefarious agencies. It would be very easy to do that where the generation of those pings were remotely controlled. Conveniently enough, those pings were generating just a few days before the pings from flight 370's black box were supposed to cease... due to the approx 30 exp. date on that. So naturally all of those search ships zoomed over to that area to analyze those pings which, right on schedule, ceased today because the 30 day period for the emission of those pings is over. Pretty nifty right? Right on schedule! Amazing! lol

[Hervé]

My question is: why start a new thread on this instead of keeping the available data within the original thread: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers?

[edit: thread are now merged]

[Roisin]

Posted by spiritguide (here)
The UN is a political organization. Repeat, the UN is a political organization. How can you tell when a politician lies? a: When they move their mouths. The history of the UN and it's goals are outlined and it is a dismal failure to date. UN peacekeeping is a laugh IMHO.

Peace!

The information reported by the UN on this is from an entirely different and independent entity called the CTBTO’s International Monitoring System (IMS). They are the ones who conducted those tests wrt to this missing airliner but in any case,
even though the UN supports the testing results of that organization on this, they didn't bother to report any of that information to any major news organization.... not until today.

So this indicates that they are going along with the rest of them on the suppression of significant information about this missing plane where in this case, they delayed information about those findings until today when it was finally reported on NBC news.

I don't trust the UN either but I especially do not trust anything coming out of US Intelligence and the ones who are in charge of the search of that missing plane on the Indian Ocean when in fact, they know it never crashed there in the first place!

Also, there may be opposing factions within the UN and US intelligence wrt to this plane and the release of pertinent information about it to the public.

[Roisin]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
My question is: why start a new thread on this instead of keeping the available data within the original thread: Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers?

I agree.. this thread should be tagged onto that thread and so should those other 2 threads on this missing plane that were created after that original one too.

If a mod does that, I'm fine with that but to me, this newest information puts everything about that missing plane into a new light.

This is very important news and is worthy of it's own thread but I have no qualms at all if it goes back to the original Flight 370 thread here.

Please make a similar complaint at:

* "No missing plane" thread

* and the other one started up on if that plane landed at the Diego Garcia airport and if there are underwater bases there or that...

* Amazing (if proved true) IBM ENGINEER TAKEN FROM HIJACKED FLIGHT 370 SENDS TEXT

Just checked those out and I'm not seeing you making any complaints that those threads were created even though there's already a main thread on this plane...

[Hervé]

Just because, IMO, I consider this valid data; the other two (ooops...three)... well...

[Roisin]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Just because, IMO, I consider this valid data; the other two... well...

Like I said, no prob here if the mods want to transfer this thread to that main one. In fact, now that you bring this up, I would prefer that they do that. thanks

PS -- my apologies for starting a different thread up like this on having to do with that plane. Now in retrospect, I should have posted information about that NBC news article in that main thread.

On the other hand though because much of the focus in that thread was on the Indian Ocean search for that plane, because that article gives information indicating that it never even crashed there may warrant a new thread.. I don't know. I started this new on based on that sentiment but maybe I should have just posted it in the main one instead.

[Atlas]

Posted by Roisin (here)
even though the UN supports the testing results of that organization on this, they didn't bother to report any of that information to any major news organization.... not until today.

Sorry Roisin but they did. 3 weeks ago, maybe you have missed it in the US but it appeared on several news media websites elsewhere. I didn't feel the need to add this info on the main thread at the time. So no, they didn't suppress anything here.

THIS INFO IS 3 WEEKS OLD IN CASE YOU DID NOT NOTICE.

[Hervé]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
even though the UN supports the testing results of that organization on this, they didn't bother to report any of that information to any major news organization.... not until today.

Sorry Roisin but they did. 3 weeks ago, maybe you have missed it in the US but it appeared on several news media websites elsewhere. I didn't feel the need to add this info on the main thread at the time.

There!

Buares, it's all your fault!

[Roisin]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
even though the UN supports the testing results of that organization on this, they didn't bother to report any of that information to any major news organization.... not until today.

Sorry Roisin but they did. 3 weeks ago, maybe you have missed it in the US but it appeared on several news media websites elsewhere. I didn't feel the need to add this info on the main thread at the time. So no, they didn't suppress anything here.

THIS INFO IS 3 WEEKS OLD IN CASE YOU DID NOT NOTICE.

Wow... so 3 weeks ago, you didn't think this was important information hence why you didn't post it in that other thread? The search for that plane in the Indian Ocean was by that time well underway... It sounds like you too thought it crashed there and that the information that is the topic of this thread was contrary to your own beliefs on that... that it crashed in that ocean.

So for that reason you decided to not post that article from March 18th there.

Very interesting.

I'm only making assumptions here but this is what it seems like.

[Hervé]

Now, back to the topic, the only realistic conclusion that can be drawn from the "seismographic" data analysis is that there was no high altitude free fall crash nor huge explosion fitting in that time window.

That doesn't exclude low altitude crash or belly landing or multiple small explosions, etc...

[Atlas]

Notice the date and the long list of websites:

This content is NOT on the Avalon server. Source of content is: http://newsroom.ctbto.org/2014/03/11/ctbto-infrasound-data-being-analyzed-for-possible-clues-on-missing-flight-mh370/

This content is NOT on the Avalon server. Source of content is: http://newsroom.ctbto.org/2014/03/11/ctbto-infrasound-data-being-analyzed-for-possible-clues-on-missing-flight-mh370/

What say you ?

[Atlas]

Posted by Roisin (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
even though the UN supports the testing results of that organization on this, they didn't bother to report any of that information to any major news organization.... not until today.

Sorry Roisin but they did. 3 weeks ago, maybe you have missed it in the US but it appeared on several news media websites elsewhere. I didn't feel the need to add this info on the main thread at the time. So no, they didn't suppress anything here.

THIS INFO IS 3 WEEKS OLD IN CASE YOU DID NOT NOTICE.

Wow... so you didn't think this was important information hence why you didn't post it in that other thread?

That's amazing!

It's always better to say nothing rather than to spread bull****, isn't it ?

[Roisin]

At this point. the date of the original publication of that information is not even important anymore Buares...

It's that it was published at all and considering the source of that information which is a reputable organization comprised of some of the top scientists in the world.... that's all that's important now.

I'm just amazed how the media ignored this information. Some may have published it but none of them seemed interested in analyzing it and its importance to this case.

[Roisin]

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)

Posted by buares (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
even though the UN supports the testing results of that organization on this, they didn't bother to report any of that information to any major news organization.... not until today.

Sorry Roisin but they did. 3 weeks ago, maybe you have missed it in the US but it appeared on several news media websites elsewhere. I didn't feel the need to add this info on the main thread at the time. So no, they didn't suppress anything here.

THIS INFO IS 3 WEEKS OLD IN CASE YOU DID NOT NOTICE.

Wow... so 3 weeks ago, you didn't think this was important information hence why you didn't post it in that other thread? The search for that plane in the Indian Ocean was by that time well underway... It sounds like you too thought it crashed there and that the information that is the topic of this thread was contrary to your own beliefs on that... that it crashed in that ocean.

So for that reason you decided to not post that article from March 18th there.

Very interesting.

I'm only making assumptions here but this is what it seems like.

It's always better to say nothing rather than to spread bull****, isn't it ?

You are wrong but at any rate, your above statement proves my suspicions on your motive on why you didn't post any information about that article.

Now I'm glad I started up a new thread on this topic.

[Atlas]

Posted by Roisin (here)
Wow... so 3 weeks ago, you didn't think this was important information hence why you didn't post it in that other thread? The search for that plane in the Indian Ocean was by that time well underway... It sounds like you too thought it crashed there and that the information that is the topic of this thread was contrary to your own beliefs on that... that it crashed in that ocean.

So for that reason you decided to not post that article from March 18th there.

Very interesting.

I'm only making assumptions here but this is what it seems like.

May I suggest you keep your assumptions for yourself. I post what I want, I don't need people to tell me what to post, thanks.