Boeing MH370 disappears in flight with 239 passengers

[Atlas]

Update by Duncan Steel, April 08:

I have so far modelled plausible aircraft paths for uniform speeds of 300, 400 and 460 knots, turning either northwards or southwards



Here is an expanded view of the northern paths:



Here is an expanded view of the southern paths:



I caution again that my ping rings positions were themselves entered by eye, and so may be erroneously placed by 10 km/10 nm, perhaps more.

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An implication of this, if it is correct, would be devastating given that the searches have concentrated upon the Indian Ocean. The implication, of course, is that the LOS speed(s) of the aircraft do not favour one direction (north or south) over the other. Unless I have made a serious error somewhere, the Inmarsat engineers made a mistake in their analysis.

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The posts, by Dr Yaoqiu Kuang, a professor at the State Key Laboratory of Isotope Geochemistry of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, draw attention to imagery from NASA’s Terra satellite which indicate a smoke plume rising from the Beshtash Valley (about 30 kilometres SSE of the town of Talas in Kyrgyzstan), and also thermal emission from the source location of the smoke. The Aqua satellite, which obtained imagery of the same area a few hours later, showed no such smoke plume.

Whilst the area is fairly densely covered in trees, it is at a high elevation and at this time of year covered in snow, so that a forest fire is contra-indicated. Dr Kuang also indicates evidence for rapid snow melting causing the river in the valley to rise.

The locations of Talas and the Beshtash Valley are shown in the graphic below, and can be seen to be fairly close to the termination of the hypothetical 460-knot northern path I have presented earlier in this post.

[Referee]

Note Pentagon blocks all leave to Diego Garcia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vBopfEuuO7g

[Roisin]

Here's an interesting comment on that same You Tube page.

Another twin? Just noticed that they listed another 777 airframe with the same construction number as 370 and the twin in Israel... According to Planespotters.net there is another one with out a Registration Number and stored in France... wat!????

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...is-php

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N105GT GA Telesis Boeing 777-2H6(ER) - cn 28416 / ln 155
Airframe Details
Construction Number (MSN) 28416
Line Number 155
Aircraft Type Boeing 777-2H6(ER)
First Flight 25-07-1998
Age 15.7 Years
Airframe Status Stored

9M-MRI Boeing 777-2H6(ER) Malaysia Airlines 2x RR Trent 892 C35Y247 20-10-1998 Leased from ALAFCO
wfu 08-04-2013
std at LDE (France) 04-10-2013

N105GT Boeing 777-2H6(ER) GA Telesis 2x RR Trent 892 21-10-2013 std at TLV (Israel) 04-11-2013

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

it would be quite easy to drop the plane at Diego Garcia, give it some new artowrk and fly it straight out of there

[Roisin]

Published on Mar 27, 2014

Why a clone of Malaysia Flight 370 plane is being stored in Israel since 2013?

Planespotters.net has log entries of two identical twins of the missing Boeing 777 of Malaysia airlines, stored in Lourdes, France and Tel Aviv, Israel since late 2013. Hmmmm.... check link below:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-qXksDwJMQI

[Roisin]

Comments in the comment section of that video I posted in my last post:

Glen W
1 week ago

Read about this on Christopher Bollyn's website. To my understanding, the one that was in France is the same one that is in Israel. It was just re-registered before it was transported to Tel Aviv for storage.
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Grey Matter
1 week ago

The one in Lourdes changed registration numbers and went to Tel Aviv. They are the same production number and order number. Not to mention, this plane in question was built over 3.5 years prior to MH370, therefore it's not the twin. Malaysia Airlines has about 3 or 4 more matching planes in storage, and the paint jobs actually match on those airliners,

But here's a comment that came after the ones above:

wtfidonthaveaname
1 week ago

FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.

[Flash]

this as already been discussed in this thread, you may just read the thread, and it has been kind of debunked, meaning that the plane is not the same make as the one that disappeared. I remain sceptic either sides, but please read the thread.

[Roisin]

Posted by Flash (here)
this as already been discussed in this thread, you may just read the thread, and it has been kind of debunked, meaning that the plane is not the same make as the one that disappeared. I remain sceptic either sides, but please read the thread.

Here's what someone else said on that You Tube page that may have relevance to your comment Flash:
wtfidonthaveaname
1 week ago

FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.

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Oh, never mind, will do some research on that in this thread and elsewhere. It's all very confusing to me at this point. lol

[Operator]

Posted by Roisin (here)
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FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.
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Not correct either ... those are not registration numbers but country determined call signs ...
http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series

9M-MRO belongs to Malaysia
N105GT belongs to USA (that plane should absolutely NOT have Malaysian colors!)

[Roisin]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
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Quote wtfidonthaveaname

1 week ago

FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.
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Not correct either ... those are not registration numbers but country determined call signs ...
http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series

9M-MRO belongs to Malaysia
N105GT belongs to USA (that plane should absolutely NOT have Malaysian colors!)

Flash said that the information about a twin plane in Israel has been "sort of" debunked here in this thread. So is that the part that's been the debunked? That the plane belongs to the USA? That that plane should not have Malaysian colors but does that warrant further examination?

[Operator]

Posted by Roisin (here)

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
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Quote wtfidonthaveaname

1 week ago

FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.
---

Not correct either ... those are not registration numbers but country determined call signs ...
http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series

9M-MRO belongs to Malaysia
N105GT belongs to USA (that plane should absolutely NOT have Malaysian colors!)

Flash said that the information about a twin plane in Israel has been "sort of" debunked here in this thread. So is that the part that's been the debunked? That the plane belongs to the USA? That that plane should not have Malaysian colors but does that warrant further examination?

Sorry, I was a bit brief in that post ... I had not much time and was in a hurry.
I only meant to improve the accuracy of the used words. I will try again, I have bit more time now.

There are lot of numbers and identifications involved with airplanes, we should not mix them up otherwise
it becomes unclear what we are talking about.

For instance Flight MH370 is still flying ... daily or weekly since that is to identify the trip it's making. It is
independent of what type of aircraft it is. Although I can imagine that they changed this regular flight number
like they scrap hurricane names if they caused a lot of casualties. In their communication with ATC they identify
with flight numbers because that's what ATC is dealing with: flights.

Then there is the unique airplane identification like 9M-MRO. It is like a number plate on your car. A cop might
pull you over and give you a ticket using the number on the plate as identification of the car. The number
plate is often related to country and/or state and will change when the car changes to another owner (not
the case b.t.w. in all countries, in the Netherlands the number stays with the car).

With planes it's similar when fighter planes approach the airliner for a visual they will read the identification
from the side of the airliner and call it using that identification ... airforce has to do with planes not flights.
If e.g. an US call sign is found on an airplane with Malaysian markings then there is something wrong. Unless
of course the plane is in transition of changing hands when it is sold.

Then there are of course also the serial numbers that should stay fixed with the physical plane like the number
on your car chassis or engine.

So in the end it is only the serial number that should be used to uniquely identify a physical plane at all times.

I must have missed what the core issue was being subject of debunking but I just jumped in to clarify call signs and
make my remark on the weird combination of an US call sign on a plane with Malaysian markings (if true at all).

[Flash]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
---
FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.
---

Not correct either ... those are not registration numbers but country determined call signs ...
http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series

9M-MRO belongs to Malaysia
N105GT belongs to USA (that plane should absolutely NOT have Malaysian colors!)

OHHHH, sooooo interesting! An American plane, in Israel, with Malaysian colors! And by chance similar to the one that disappeared. Truly interesting. They are soooo busted with their plans.

If anything "Iranian" as they are trying to make us believe comes to the surface and is used to attack anywhere, it will be about sure it is coming from the USA and Israel.

Forget the debunked, I did not know Operator's information.

[Operator]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Roisin (here)
---
FAIL. The registration number on the "plane in Israel" is N105GT, but the registration number on the plane that is missing is 9M-MRO. This is just a different plane in MA's fleet that had to be grounded for repairs by GA Telesis.
---

Not correct either ... those are not registration numbers but country determined call signs ...
http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series

9M-MRO belongs to Malaysia
N105GT belongs to USA (that plane should absolutely NOT have Malaysian colors!)

OHHHH, sooooo interesting! An American plane, in Israel, with Malaysian colors! And by chance similar to the one that disappeared. Truly interesting. They are busted.

Well remember that it is currently owned by GA Telesis (buying/selling (parts of) planes) and while being in a
hangar it could be in transition of Malaysia selling it to the US or vice versa. That can be verified of course.

Why this is done in Tel Aviv ... ? I don't know, could be usual business too ... Perhaps someone with commercial
connections can pickup the baton from here.

[Referee]

Now CNN is debunking Diego Garcia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TqBTQvBl72M

[Elainie]

They are now saying they heard more pings.

[panopticon]

Malaysia Airlines MH370: Ocean Shield detects two more signals in search for missing flight

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2uBX4l8ihKs

An Australian search vessel has picked up two more signals from what could be the black box from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

The man in charge of the search, retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, said the Ocean Shield picked up the traces on Tuesday afternoon and late on Tuesday night Perth time.

He said he now believed the search was closing in on the area of MH370's "final resting place".

Air Chief Marshal Houston said the Ocean Shield would be looking to pick up more transmissions which would help to better pinpoint where the signal was coming from.

He said once the search area had been narrowed down, searchers could then find something in a "matter of days".

"Hopefully with lots of transmissions we'll have a tight, small area and hopefully in a matter of days we will be able to find something on the bottom that might confirm that this is the last resting place of MH370," he said.

Both signals picked up yesterday lasted just over five minutes.

Retired Air Chief Marshall Angus Houston says the signals have helped crews further define the search area, and he believes they are now closing in on the plane.

He says he is confident the search is in the right area.

" So I think we're looking in the right area, but I'm not prepared to confirm anything until such time as somebody lays eyes on the wreckage," he said.

The signals are becoming weaker and Air Chief Marshall Houston says that is most likely because the batteries are beginning to run out.

More to come.

Source

[araucaria]

Posted by Referee (here)
Now CNN is debunking Diego Garcia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TqBTQvBl72M

As the pundit says, but for those magic pings in the middle of nowhere, it's the grassy knoll all over again - the grassy atoll, you got it!

[Creative Lorraine]

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[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Referee (here)
Now CNN is debunking Diego Garcia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TqBTQvBl72M

Once again "they" are using their tools (MSM) to divert (Brainwash) attention away from Diego Garcia; using the phrase "physically impossible" and saying any one who in the slightest way thinks this scenario could be "possible" are "ridiculous conspiracy theory nut jobs" (I'm paraphrasing to a slight degree)

Personally I think this is one of the most important reports from CNN yet; in several ways-for several reasons. I also don't think they can keep this plane "disappeared" for much longer.....the "ridiculous conspiracy theory nut jobs" are causing certain forces to go in to damage control so to speak. They are even resorting to saying it's "physically impossible" for this plane to land at Diego Garcia when any one with half a brain knows its not "physically impossible". Highly unlikely, but not "physically impossible".

Also, these under ground base/city photo's popping up all over on the internet are probably digital layers and a planted scheme to make people look even more like ridiculous conspiracy theory nut jobs IMO. CNN will probably report on these underground city photos next soon to prove their point. THEY do not want Diego Garcia to be a focus point, they proven this time and time again, starting with the Maldives sighting weeks back/INMARSAT/etc.

Diverting attention away from Diego Garcia may or may not have something to do with MH370, but, they are sure working over-time concerning diverting public attention and MH370 away from this location.

[Cidersomerset]

I am not quite sure where Dahboo is going with this, the two interviews
posted earlier she clearly says she thinks the plane has been taken
and there is more to it than meets the eye. She does not a feel like
a crisis actor, her CV means she knows a lot more behind the scenes
than she can say publically. So although its good to be wary I think
Dahboo may be a little premature with his analysis. Unless anything
new has appeared regarding Sarah Bajc.