Barack Obama 2014

[araucaria]

The word dorky might come to mind here, but what does having stupid or contemptible friends say about you or your comment? You asking for something below the belt?

[Daphne]

I can't figure out how to post a picture from my ipad directly to a thread, so I changed my profile picture to a pic of my own hand with my distinctly longer ring finger than my index finger- yet I am most definitely a female! Once I heard that argument in the video, I stopped paying attention! I wonder if my parents gave me a sex change operation in infancy?
Upon edit I see that my profile pic did not update. The photo of my hand is in my pix album if anyone is interested in seeing it.

[Lettherebelight]

This is an interesting discussion regarding both Williams sisters. Stranger things have occurred throughout history. I am still on the fence post, although there is a strong wind in the form of evidence making me lean a little towards the transgender direction. Michelle Obama, however, can be seen in childhood photos (on the internet) with her family, and she does look like a little girl.

The same cannot be said of Serena and Venus Williams. The interview with their father in the OP video speaks volumes about his clear motives for the acquisition of money, coming straight from the 'horse's mouth'. I have not seen anything on the internet regarding their alleged adoption, however. All information that I have seen simply states they are the daughters of Ms Price and Mr Williams.

It is an interesting point that neither of the sisters have had serious relationships with males, nor have expressed any interest in having children of their own. I guess having their own babies would be the real (and mabe only) proof that this allegation could not possibly be true.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Daphne (here)
I can't figure out how to post a picture from my ipad directly to a thread, so I changed my profile picture to a pic of my own hand with my distinctly longer ring finger than my index finger- yet I am most definitely a female! Once I heard that argument in the video, I stopped paying attention! I wonder if my parents gave me a sex change operation in infancy?
Upon edit I see that my profile pic did not update. The photo of my hand is in my pix album if anyone is interested in seeing it.

I mentioned this earlier but had my post deleted because it had extra stuff in it that was not needed. In reality, all a longer ring finger than a pointer finger means is your mother had relatively high levels of testosterone in her body while carrying you. I didn't watch the videos but if it claims that you have to be a man to have the level of testosterone to develop this -- it has nothing to do with personal testosterone at all - only the mother's during pregnancy. The chromosomes will determine the sex but the level of testosterone in the mother creates certain markers in the offspring to potentially reveal that level, while you were developing. The length ratio between the ring and pointer finger is one of these markers.

Anyone interested on understanding the incredible power of testosterone, I watched a good doc by nat geo on testosterone called: The Testosterone Factor . You may be able to find the whole episode on youtube.

Probably good for everyone to watch and put to rest some misunderstandings and assumptions we sometimes make.

[araucaria]

I am quite happy to accept this statement as true, but I have two objections all the same. A more pertinent question would be: Did you ever mistake a transvestite for the real thing? I think that for quite a few people the answer would be yes. They might even make glaring mistakes within close range of cases with limited means and/or talent that wouldn’t fool others.

Secondly, this is a vague generalization about maleness and femaleness being more like a continuum, with awkward borderline cases in both directions. However, a court of law does not deal in generalities: it knows that men often murder their spouses/companions, but it never strays from the particular instance: Did Pistorius murder Reeva Steenkamp? It may know that so-and-so is a habitual thief, but it wants to know if on this occasion he stole that item. In this strict environment, it matters little what Serena is up to if we want to know about Michelle Obama. A successful deception is a mixture of skill, distance and gullibility. Obama would have plenty of skill available, and distance from the suspicious; and since mass behaviour is generally more extreme than in smaller groups, mass gullibility may be greater than the sum of its parts.

We know that mass deception is going on on the broadest scale at the highest level of the elite. We also that increasing numbers, including grassroots people, are somehow dissatisfied with who/how they are, and are putting on an act of some sort, whether it be with botox, sex changes, transvestism, electoral promises, Internet trolling, you name it. To be able to generalize and say Everybody’s doing it both makes it statistically more likely that a particular instance follows that trend and yet legally no more provable. The only provable outcome of this version of The Emperor’s New Clothes would be literally for Obama’s wife to be caught with his pants down. Something like when Pope John VIII (aka Pope Joan) gave the game away by giving birth to a child. After that, a special chair was designed to check the pope’s undercarriage, confirmed by the famous pronouncement ‘duos habet et bene pendentes’.

That is not likely to happen. But you see, we do have a precedent, courtesy of the Vatican itself

However this particular affair pans out or not, at some stage, some such irrefutable evidence is going to turn up in some area. Alternatively, public awareness will have risen to the point where that is no longer necessary. What is important here and now is how it is a dry run for any kind of disclosure, and frankly, for self-proclaimed experts, we are not doing very well. ‘Michelle is a man? Oh she can’t be, I like her so much!’ Or, ‘Oh she can’t be, I am a strong woman too.’ Or that old favourite, ‘Oh she can’t be, I have booked front row seats for Take 666 of The Financial Collapse next week; you shouldn’t be distracted from that, it is much more important.’ Or, ‘Obama’s due for assassination’. Oh yeah? By whom, what for, and most of all, who the hell is Obama anyway?

Dummies for dummies. Here is something you can try with your kids. Threaten to (playfully) smack them with one hand. Then when their attention is fixed, smack them with the other hand. Stage two: when they have cottoned on to this ploy, you can smack them with the same hand. Stage three: game over.

[Peace of Mind]

Wow, didn’t expect to see something like this here. The wild speculating nature of this place is growing by the day. I guess you must be doing something right when your plight to success is met with concerns of fraud. The world is filled with disempowered people always looking for excuses to place on other people accomplishments, if only they were more focused and committed to their own dreams they too will realize just how easy life can be. With that said, I’m still under the assumption that this place would be 100 times more concerned with the handling of our governments...more then trying to find out the gender of the president’s wife.

These accusations are poison, there is nothing of importance to come out of it, nothing! And when the defamation of character is later seen…there is often no apologies or admittance of wrong doing to be found. People just forget and move on safe later to defame/support someone else from the confines of their computer space…which I’m sure holds no indication/supportive information to their beliefs. Nothing good ever comes out of these discussions…just more division. Hopefully, one day soon we will all realize this and start living up to our potential.
Peace

[blufire]

Posted by Ahnung-quay (here)
When I first viewed the video of Michelle when it was posted under the thread about her waving the Chinese flags, I never thought about race at all.
For the record, I have longer ring fingers than index fingers and my blood line grandchildren call me "grandma". My daughter and one granddaughter also have longer ring fingers than index fingers. My mixed race granddaughter (black/white) has longer index than ring fingers. So what does the hand thing prove? Nothing.
I was more convinced by looking at Michelle's neck and shoulder muscles (especially her trapezius muscles) and shoulder width than anything. Her arms and shoulders are extremely cut for a woman her age. Most women start to become more flabby than ripped at around age 45 even if they do work out. It goes with the hormonal changes known as peri-menopause and menopause.
Her head to body height is also telling. There are tall women but, it's true that their head to body ratios is, as depicted in the video, 1:7 rather than 1:8.
And, as Corey Everson demonstrated back in the 80's, women can have a muscular physic without bulking by doing lighter lifts with longer reps. Michelle's shoulders and arms are pretty bulky compared to her legs.
It's strange that a few years ago one could find more information on Michael Lavaugn Robinson. Google has made it harder now. I think that she is a man posing as a woman.

As a rule your statement about women 45 and older being more ‘softer’ than ripped is true.

But there are women like me (currently 55) who were very athletic when younger and remain uncharacteristically active. I am still very muscular and ripped because of the heavy farm work I do. The picture on my profile page shows this a little (50 or 51 (?) in that picture).

If a woman works out when she is young her body will retain ‘muscle memory’ . . . even when she is older if she works out with weights and eats properly she can regain that muscle definition, cut and bulk.

Michelle Obama is not and never was a man and it is very disappointing and troubling to see this type of nonsense on PA, especially with the comments from a couple on this thread that we need to be entertained because of all the heavy stuff occurring globally. To be entertained at someone else’s expense is cruel, abusive and flat out wrong. This is something I see happening in our world today at a rapidly increasing pace.

Those pictures of Michelle showing a penis have been altered. She is simply masculine looking and has worked out with weights . . . . probably lighter weights with numerous repetitions to become defined and ripped without the addition muscle mass gain. She has not taken any steroids like Serena Williams.

Do you not think that if the media had seen this (possible penis) in ‘real life’ with all the pictures that have been taken of her that they would have not had a field day with it???

Seriously people where has all the common sense and logic gone?

I thought Project Avalon was a place to ferret out Truth and to provide information that would encourage people to wake up and take control of their lives and to be more effective in healing and changing our world to the positive.

There has been a change in the forum (something I actually predicted last September) in the last few months and it is troubling and sad to see.

[araucaria]

For anyone uncomfortable with the content of this thread, I want to make some general comments.

Reaching personal integrity – I say reaching, for it is a process, some would call it truth-seeking – means being able at last to square your behaviour in the world with who you really are. We all have our various weaker, darker aspects where we fail to achieve this. We deceive ourselves and others in various ways large and small, in other words we act a part. In a sense we are all to some degree crisis actors as seen at Sandy Hook for example. And Sandy Hook is an ultimatum to quit doing this.

The time is coming – call it disclosure, enlightenment, the Last Judgment or whatever – when all these little games are going to stop. Those who are fairly close to where they should be are going to be in a better position to put their own house in order and then help others. Some people are going to be a long way off base and are going to need a lot of help. Others are going to be OK personally but so surprised and shocked at discovering the truth about what others have been up to that they are not going to be of much use. We need to get as many people as possible as ready as possible to face the coming task.

The analysis here of the personal situation of a given public figure is a sandbox attempt to do this work. This is not about Michelle. Even if she has done the worst people can imagine, which would very likely be going too far, it is still no big deal and nothing unforgivable. We are learning to cope with things previously unimaginable and to do so without judgment or emotion, just unconditional love. The point being that some entities have been so far off-base that they have been, unsuspected, doing things that are totally unimaginable, and these things are also going to enter the public consciousness to be dealt with as well. We who pride ourselves on being perhaps a little more aware than most have a great responsibility in this regard. We are talking about reconciliation on the vastest scale in the wake of genocidal crimes on that same scale.

And here we are getting all hot and bothered talking about Obama possibly introducing gay marriage into the White House before it became legal and without telling anyone – all this without the slightest reference to the question of whether or not he has been doing a good job. The lack of perspective is truly breathtaking. We have a long way to go. Don’t hope for too much disclosure just yet.

[Shezbeth]

Posted by TargeT (here)
NOTHING is above question. EVER.

Booya. Thank you Cardillac for posting this thread topic. Its discussion may have wavered a bit, but the general core which seems to be:
"Is it possible that Michelle Obama (and others) is (are) either a transvestite/transgender individual?"
... appears intact.

I don't take the video as being uncontestable/irrefutable, but I am willing to recognize that given my limited understanding of the historical facts (I.e. DNA) and in light of some of the images presented in that video, I have to conclude that it is IMpossible for me to rule OUT the possibility that the thesis of this thread is false.

Especially in observance of the MASSIVE effort to conceal, suppress, obfuscate, and fabricate BO's past, identity, origins, etc. Again, unable to conclude the possibility, but neither able to discount the possibility.

[Ahnung-quay]

Old pictures can also be photoshopped or altered. Some of the Obama's pictures of their earlier years together do appear to have been altered. Ever seen any pictures of Michelle pregnant? I haven't but, I guess that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I find the emotion being displayed here on this thread interesting. These are opinions. Why can't we agree to disagree and stop turning it into what it is not?

I agree with what Shezbeth just posted. I couldn't have said it better. And, I'll add that we should demand transparency from anyone running for President in the future, if Obama doesn't declare martial law and stay in office. No matter what they are, these people have power and they are dangerous.

[araucaria]

Posted by Ahnung-quay (here)
I'll add that we should demand transparency from anyone running for President in the future.

And what does transparency mean? It means voters with integrity electing politicians with integrity. When you elect someone, you vote for the politician, and you get the whole person. Integrity means that there is no major incompatibility between the two. Voters with integrity – and we have to include them in this process – elect politicians with integrity. We have to include the voters because they often prefer to elect people despite or indeed on account of their dishonesty, thinking that they will better serve their voters’ interests.

The lack of integrity in say Obama, as a possible example, would lie not in the chosen lifestyle per se but in the deception, politics being currently run on the basis of blackmailable weaknesses. Weaknesses like the one in question here could be laughed off by a more tolerant society as long as it doesn’t affect the way he does his job. It will be said that this is what got his the job in the first place. Well, accidents do happen sometimes. JFK only became president because his elder brother, who was being groomed for the job, got killed in World War II. Perhaps, instead of having to commit some horrendous crime to make himself blackmailable, Obama’s sexual orientation was mistakenly considered enough to hold him. If he is threatened with assassination, this may be a sign that he is becoming too independent. They don’t assassinate docile puppets. George W. was the first president elected in a year ---0 who wasn’t murdered.

If this were the situation – I am not saying it is, but it doesn’t have to be to make my point – one imagines the benefit of Obama being able to come out of the closet and thereby enhance his integrity and independence. It could possibly happen in France (where the popular outgoing mayor of Paris Bertrand Delanoe is openly gay), but in prudish America? It all comes back to the voters. Maybe, just maybe, while still suffering from the trauma of the JFK murder, they will allow their respect for the president and the presidency to override their puritan morals in time to save them. If this is what happens, they will do it without the need for ballot boxes to register their vote or mainstream newspapers to report on it.


Ed: typo

[sigma6]

this just keeps getting better and better...
Using Afghanistan as their base of operations?

Obama Has Partnered With The Taliban For U.S Geopolitical agenda?
http://beforeitsnews.com/internation...s-2480638.html



In new information from Russian intelligence secret service sources regarding passengers on missing Malaysian Airlines MH370 are alive after the flight landed in Afghanistan, the source says 20 Asian specialists were smuggled into Pakistan, the passengers had been divided into seven groups and all are in serious condition.

Russian’s FSB secret service have said anonymously that the plane was hijacked and flown close to the Pakistan border. Adding to that, the Russian news source MKRU restates that all MH370 passengers were alive, had been divided into seven groups, and all but 20 are living in mud huts with almost no food.


The new report added that 20 passengers who were Asian ‘specialists’ have been smuggled into a bunker in Pakistan, the report added.

“All passengers are alive, are divided into seven groups and live in “daub” hand to mouth. All people are in serious condition,” MKRU says.

“MK9RU) has learned that “missing March 8 airliner companies Malaysia Airlines and China Southern Airlines with 227 passengers and 12 crew members were captured southeast of Kandahar, on the territory of Afghanistan’s border with Pakistan.”

[sigma6]

MH370 Hostage Crisis: Photo Of Plane-like Image In Afghanistan Described


http://beforeitsnews.com/internation...s-2480640.html



A photograph of what appears to be a large jet is in the exact area Russian secret Service said the missing MH370 Boeing is, along with allegations against authorities involved in the search ad rescue (SAR).

The above photo correlates with new reports out of Russia regarding the whereabouts of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. The image is taken of an area near Chaman, to the south-east of Kandahar.

Reader “Oleg” on April 2 at 12:05 in comments on the “MK” site posted a link to an object like a plane with a broken wing, standing on the border with Pakistan.”

[sigma6]

Indonesian MH370 Passenger’s Calls To Sister Not Investigated

http://beforeitsnews.com/internation...d-2480616.html

MH370 passenger’s two calls to sister after plane went missing not investigated

The public is advised not to believe the sister of a passenger onboard Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 who says she received two missed calls from her brother on March 11 and 13. Again, a top official is telling the world not to believe what people see and hear.

Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Aziz Kaprawi denied Sunday receiving a report from the Indonesian family explaining they had received “missed calls” from Firman Candra Siregar, an Indonesian passenger onboard flight MH370.

Firman Candra Siregar was returning to work in Beijing when he boarded Flight MH370.

The minister was responding to an Indonesian online news portal report that quoted the victim’s sister January Siregar saying she received missed calls on March 11 and March 13 from her younger brother via Skype on her iPad after the aircraft went missing on March 8.

Abdul Aziz claims the Malaysia government had never heard from the Indonesian authorities regarding the matter.

He urged the public not to believe everything they read on news portals as the information posted was sometimes unverified, unconfirmed and could be misleading.

“All the latest developments and information regarding MH370 are delivered to the family members through daily briefings by acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein and the relevant authorities.

He spoke to reporters after launching a smiling campaign at the Parit Raja pasar tani.

The online portal also reported that January has been awaiting a reply from the Malaysian Government and Malaysia Airlines Systems regarding her report to authorities on the “missed calls”.

The public, on the other hand, and even some loved ones of MH370 passengers are advising to not believe everything that’s heard from officials and the media regarding the crisis.

Thirteen days ago, the same grieving Indonesian family angrily denied that they had authorised an American law firm to lodge a multi-million dollar legal action against the airline.

The girlfriend of Phillip Woods, an MH370 passenger, said she did not believe what officials are saying because of too many contradictions and dismissal of eyewitness reports. Sarah Bajc, girlfriend of Malaysian Flight 370 passenger Philip Wood, claimed on CNN she was told about eye witness reports that MH370 was seen “accompanied by fighter planes” before its ‘disappearance’. Bajc said she and other passengers family members are confident the plane is not only still intact, but that the passengers have also survived.

Bajc told the stunned CFR member and CNN anchor Erin Burnett, “Many people are saying that the United States is involved … but the general thinking across the families here and even non-families … this was a military operation of some sort.”

Officials also quickly dismissed over 20 eyewitness reports of seeing an odd, low-flying jumbo jet in the first hours of the missing plane crisis. According to officials, no individual on the MH370 investigation team have never followed up with any of those eyewitnesses, including those reports that came from the Maldives.

[sigma6]

I am going to guess that several taliban dressed as civilians overtook the plane with boxcutters,
then made the plane invisible to radar and redirected it passt a dozen countries military radar and decided to kidnap 20 Asian electronic specialists...

Oh, and I am sure there is no connection to Rockefeller.... And, oh we better call the US Military to come and save us....

Can anyone say Munchausen syndrome?



MH370 Hostage Crisis: Alive In Afghanistan
http://beforeitsnews.com/internation...s-2480634.html



Terrorists hijacked Malaysia Airlines Flight MH 370, flew the plane to Afghanistan, and passengers are alive but in severe condition, according to a Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets on Thursday that newspapers across the world are reporting this afternoon.

The plane with 239 passengers has been missing since March 8th. The paper also was told that all passengers survived the hard landing but were in severe condition due to a food shortage.

The new report, albeit not confirmed by the international investigative team dictating what Malaysian officials can and cannot say publicly, concurs with Russian officials’ earlier statement, that the plane had been hijacked and flewn to a location near Pakistan.

The report also concurs with officials’ messages that loved ones of passengers have recieved at briefings that led them to believe their loved ones are alive.

An intelligence agent reported anonymously to the Russian newspaper that the plane was in Afghanistan near the border with Pakistan.


“Pilots are not guilty, the plane was hijacked by unknown terrorists. We know that the name of the terrorist who gave instructions to pilots is ‘Hitch’,” the report says.

“The plane is in Afghanistan not far from Kandahar near the border with Pakistan,” claims the newspaper, that has a circulation of about 1.1 million.

The report added, “Plane is on the road near the mountain range, and has a broken wing. Maybe it made a hard landing. All passengers survived. They live in shacks almost without food.”

The report claims all the high-tech expert passengers on the plane were taken into a bunker in Pakistan. The intellectual value of those experts has been estimated to be many billions of U.S. dollars.

“Twenty Asian specialists were captured. There is one Japanese among them,” it said, possibly referring to Freescale Semiconductor company employees.

[Atlas]

Posted by sigma6 (here)
I am going to guess that several taliban dressed as civilians overtook the plane with boxcutters,

The airport's cameras captured all the passengers, there is no way 'several taliban dressed as civilians' could have boarded the plane unnoticed.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

This sounds pretty much like the next 9/11.

Something will come out that scares people out of airborne transportation.

The walking populace ---> easier to control. ~God Emperor of Dune

(beware the ides of march indeed)!

[Precog]

They have cameras up there that can capture an ant walking on the ground and this is the picture we get. I don't buy it. At least with the Sandy Hook Hoax we had film footage that destroyed the story we were told and with this we have nothing but one lie after another from the propaganda machine that is the CIA. It's not even worth talking about because there is no proof of anything.

[seeker/reader]

Looks like you just missed your chance at definitive proof.

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President Obama Saves FLOTUS From A Marilyn Monroe Moment

President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama were in Austin, Texas on April 10 for a speaking engagement at the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library. While heading to and returning from the event commemorating the landmark Civil Rights Act, Michelle encountered strong gusts of wind that nearly blew up her black-and-blue striped skirt.

Thankfully, Barack was by his wife every step of the way and was able to save FLOTUS from a Marilyn Monroe moment. They seemed to laugh at the embarrassing situation, however, we would've been distraught at the thought of photographers' cameras going off.

We can only describe as the most graceful (and stylish) way to avoid a windy wardrobe malfunction. Way to go, Barack!

[sigma6]

Posted by Precog (here)
They have cameras up there that can capture an ant walking on the ground and this is the picture we get. I don't buy it. At least with the Sandy Hook Hoax we had film footage that destroyed the story we were told and with this we have nothing but one lie after another from the propaganda machine that is the CIA. It's not even worth talking about because there is no proof of anything.

Russian setup? Because this is where they said it was apparently from day 1

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Posted by buares (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)
I am going to guess that several taliban dressed as civilians overtook the plane with boxcutters,

The airport's cameras captured all the passengers, there is no way 'several taliban dressed as civilians' could have boarded the plane unnoticed.

Sorry Buares, that was my ironic "iconic" twisted humour... I agree with you exactly... ; )