Praying Mantis ETs - What is their agenda?

[GuyFox]

Praying Mantis ETs - How real are they? What is their agenda?



These comments are the transcript of a Video :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7m9A2SeM8G0

They refer to a second and longer video with Excerpts from Interviews which refer to Mantis beings.


Mantid, or Praying Mantis Extraterrestrials are not discussed very often. Yet if you look more deeply into abductions, remote viewing, and comments from "experiencers", you may find - as I have - that they seem to have played an important role. Isn't it time we began to discuss and consider their role and their agenda more carefully?

In a separate Video, I have taken excerpts from Three very different interviews where Mantis Beings are mentioned.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PRmv3Ojkdgo

The idea of this Video is to kick off a discussion about Mantis beings and their role in human abductions - and maybe develop a better understanding of the Purpose behind experiments with human DNA.

The three interviews include:
+ First, An October 2013 interview with Linda Moulton Howe by Art Bell for Dark Matter

+ Second, an April 2014 interview with Dr Courtney Brown, talking about results that two top Remote Viewers obtained when viewing the Great pyramid at Giza and its builders, and

+ Third, a August 2011 interview with Simon Parkes by AMMACH

If we take all three interviews on face value, and assume they are accurate, then it may be possible to say:

+ Praying Mantis ET's have been involved with abductions and tampering with Human DNA since (at least) the Old Kingdom period of Ancient Egypt, back when the Great Pyramid is said to have been built.

+ The Mantis beings seem to have an ability to put their human abductees at ease

+ They are involved in the creation of clones, and seem to tracked human bloodlines very closely through long periods of time

+ They seem to have a preference for abducting individuals of Celtic, Romany, or Jewish descent, as well as possibly Native American

+ In some cases Praying mantis may be cooperating with other aliens races, such as greys and even Reptilians - though they are said to be "playing a double game" with Reptilians; and their role is "the watch the Earth's governance."

+ The goal of the abductions and DNA manipulations seems to be to create a hybrid race, that could survive a chaotic and difficult time on our planet, though (Simon Parles says) they may have little or nothing to do with the events causing depopulation. He believes they may be prohibited from inteferring to a greater degree by "greater laws"

+ Alien technology, for cloning and construction of pyramids was 1,000's of years ahead of what humans had developed on their own

+ In Egyptian times the ETs seem to have been involved in creating a religion, which may have been intended to give humans a purpose, which may have impeded human development in spiritual and economic areas.

+ In Egyptian times, another race may have "chased away" or supplanted the Mantis and Grays that were manipulating human DNA. Some humans were displaced by this changeover too. And it may have been associated with the Exodus, which was mentioned in the bible. This raises the question of what other ET race had the power to displaced the first group of ET's? And why did human civilisation go into reverse (apparently) after the first race was gone?

+ Dr Brown said: "New ideas changed everything, modifying the master / slave relationship."

+ Simon Parkes said that the Mantids have an agenda, and they have been manipulating human DNA across a long period of Timelines. He says the agenda is to create a hybrid race that can survive on Earth after a period of depopulation, which may be coming in the not-too-distant future - "there are traumatic times to come," says Parkes. The depopulation may have started already.

+ Simon Parkes says the ETs have an intermediary, through which they deal with the Earth, and they see the US as representing the whole planet. They relationship is defined by signed contracts, which govern aspects such as abductions. They work with individual human "souls" over hundreds of thousands of years.

I hope these interview will stimulate discussion on YouTube and elsewhere.

People who wanting to know more than they heard here or in the Three Excerpts Video should refer to the original Videos of the Full interviews... The Links are posted below. Please feel free to copy these comments or parts of this short Video, if it can help to stimulate a more detailed discussion about the agenda of Mantis Beings, and why they, and other ET are so interested in manipulating human DNA. We have a right to know more, and take an active role in the creation of our own future.

As Simon Parkes has said elsewhere: "Humanity must look to itself in defining its purpose... Not to an outside savior."

[GuyFox]

(Here are the LINKS to the FULL Interviews, that produced the Three Excerpts):

LINKS:
Linda Moulton Howe, interview by Art Bell for Dark Matter (Oct. 2013):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajlWPlBIrbw
1 hour version : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh8gOgK8oWk
30 min. version :

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GE_cd2DMPFI

Dr Courtney Brown, with "Plane" for Time Monk Radio (Apr. 2014)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VfbO7T3CT30

Simon Parkes interviewed by AMMACH (August 2011)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYB_48_O5KM

Final music clip is from Titanic Memories by Friar Newborg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4d5xZg7oSU

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I want to particularly recommend the TMRN Video with Dr Courtney Brown,
since many here may not have seen that one.

I think it helps to show the value of what the Farsight Institute is doing
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OLD KINGDOM - a traditional timeline / source

The age of the Pyramid. The pyramids of Giza and Dahshur are built during this period.

3rd Dynasty
Sanakhte (Nebka) 2650 - 2630
Netjerykhet (Djoser) 2630 - 2611
Sekhemkhet (Djoser Teti) 2611 - 2603
Khaba 2603 - 2599
Huni 2599 - 2575

4th Dynasty
Snefru 2575 - 2551
Khufu (Cheops) 2551 - 2528
Djedefre 2528 - 2520
Khafre (Chephren) 2520 - 2494
Menkaure (Mycerinus) 2490 - 2472
Shepseskaf 2472 - 2467

5th Dynasty
Userkaf 2465 - 2458
Sahure 2458 - 2446
Neferirkare Kakai 2477-2467
Shepseskare Ini 2426 - 2419
Neferefre 2419 - 2416
Niuserre Izi 2453 - 2422
Menkauhor 2422 - 2414
Djedkare Izezi 2388 - 2356
Unas 2375-2345

6th Dynasty
Teti 2345 - 2333
Pepy I (Meryre) 2332 - 2283
Merenre Nemtyemzaf 2283 2278
Pepy II (Neferkare) 2278 - 2184

FIRST INTERMEDIATE PERIOD

This was a very troubled time. There was a breakdown of centralized government, with many kings having overlapping reigns. Montuhotep established order from his capital at Thebes.

[Flash]

As you say GuyFox, we have very little to go on when discussing Mantis beings. I wonder where we will get more information on this precise topic.

And I do not want this thread to become a negative one filled with fear, on this topic or Simon's, as I have seen lately on Avalon, which is a definite risk if we do not have enough material on which to discuss. Then the tendency will be to give free opinions based on fear, as it often happens. To end up with a discussion loop that looks like a vicious circle.

Do you intend to keep this thread free of negativity and information/discussion oriented? And how?

I do find the topic interesting. I only wonder about the management of it and worry about the lack of information on it.

[william r sanford72]

Posted by Flash (here)
As you say GuyFox, we have very little to go on when discussing Mantis beings. I wonder where we will get more information on this precise topic.

And I do not want this thread to become a negative one filled with fear, on this topic or Simon's, as I have seen lately on Avalon, which is a definite risk if we do not have enough material on which to discuss. Then the tendency will be to give free opinions based on fear, as it often happens. To end up with a discussion loop that looks like a vicious circle.

Do you intend to keep this thread free of negativity and information/discussion oriented? And how?

I do find the topic interesting. I only wonder about the management of it and worry about the lack of information on it.

I must confess i was afraid to admit my interactions and memorys..and a affinity and connection with mantis and reptiles at a young age and even now i have i special knack with reptiles..Snakes mainly.and insects..mantis since i was five.There was such a negative view on these subjects that i was afraid to admitt this part of me so as not to bee...turned away..etc..as i felt like just maybe for the first time in all my life i wasnt a freak...simon and the rest..are atleast being honest as they can in such uncharted and con-trolled waters...and i also came to the conclusion with help....no mother ship..or christ this time around..our fate rest totaly in our hands.great thread.
Balance
Truth Always.

[GuyFox]

Simon Parkes has a positive view of the Mantids... especially on comparison with the Reptilians.

As more than one has said, the Mantis beings seem to possess an ability to put (abducted) humans at ease, despite their (strange) appearance.

The main question I have, is:
Are the mere observers? Or are they active participants in the abductions and the DNA manipulations?



Some other clips, not in the three I had chosen, left me with the idea that they might be like Referees, observing whether or not the "greater rules" were being followed.

If this is the case, it would beg more questions, such as:

What are those greater rules? Who is powerful enough to create and enforce them?
Why should the Mantis beings be comfortable playing such an observers role?

[Hervé]

Posted by GuyFox (here)
[...]

As Simon Parkes has said elsewhere: "Humanity must look to itself in defining its purpose... Not to an outside savior."

What I understood from Simon Parkes comments is that Mantids are the best options -- the least of (n + 1) evils -- for humanity. However he also strongly disagrees with them as to their methods and the expected outcome for humanity: not at all to the taste of his human cup of tea!

[GuyFox]

I am not "seeing what isn't there".

This comment is based on what others have said. But it would take time. much time to find all the sources my comment was based upon.

One you can here at...
0:43 minutes into the EXCERPTS from Three Interviews Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmv3Ojkdgo
"A praying mantis creature 8-feet tall...
Accompanied by a sense this mantis was as so ancient, he could be as old as our solar system.
They are made, programmed to monitor the evolution of life in entire solar systems"
. . .

I will not spend time now (hours?) looking for other references now, but if and when I come across them, I will post them here.

I have already spent many hours finding these Three Excerpts, and making these two Videos. I hope you do acknowledge that

I would greatly appreciate it, if you would not just do the usual internet thing of slinging mud at another's work, but would instead contribute something backed up by evidence, and giving the reference, if relevant.

[Hervé]

Well, you just did!

(seeing something that isn't there, re: my post)

[GuyFox]

Haha - go back and look.
And here's what I saw posted, as an excerpt from your original post:

“There is a condition worse than blindness, and that is, seeing something that isn't there.” LRH

Another comment has been added now been added in your post, and I will respond to that:

Where you say that Parkes disagrees with the methods of the Mantids...
And that would suggest that they are MORE-than-Referees, taking an active role, that he finds somewhat disagreeable.

I wonder if he has had contact with the Tall Whites / Nordics (?)
And, if he knows enough about their methods and motivations, to be able to compare then to the Mantids.

From memory, LMHowe says somewhere in the 1 hour Excerpt, that three groups are being tracked by US military types

+ Reptilians-assisted by-Greys
+ Mantis beings-assisted by-Tall Greys, and
+ Tall White / Nordics

And the last group is least involved, or maybe not involved in DNA manipulations

[MalteseKnight]

Suggestion:

How about Dr. Courtney Brown doing a thorough RV session on the Maltese temples allegedly built 1000 years before the Great Pyramid and then cross correlating the data?

There appear to be underwater temples in the sea around Malta...the sea level could have been 400 feet lower ...with the Island of Malta having been considerably larger.

Interesting thread

[Freed Fox]

I oppose generalizing and/or judging any entire race or species. Perhaps there is a group (or number of groups) present in our 'neighborhood' who have an agenda, but I think it would be unwise to extend that to encompass all beings of any given type. Not that such generalization is the intention here, but rather it is often implicit in discussions of this nature.

In every group there exists a broad spectrum.

My evidence: the human race. The only civilized species which we can observe on a large scale, more intimately than with mere anecdotes/theories.

[GuyFox]

Interesting, MK.

I believe Kerry Cassidy is now in Malta now, or will be there soon, checking out something that she has intuited psychicly

I am hoping to make contact with DrBrown again soon.

I contacted him (by email) when I made the first of the following two Videos:
1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eajIAxqxOKc

2

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVwtkgiPyjk

He responded briefly with a "warm" thanks for my efforts in putting that summary of his Implications Postings together (it has by now had 2,330 hits). I plan to buy a copy of his Giza video, and look for further evidence re; the Mantids and the ET races. After that, I might ask him or an interview, and if I do, I may put your suggestion to him.

[Flash]

Posted by GuyFox (here)
Haha - go back and look.
And here's what I saw posted, as an excerpt from your original post:

“There is a condition worse than blindness, and that is, seeing something that isn't there.” LRH

Another comment has been added now been added in your post, and I will respond to that:

Where you say that Parkes disagrees with the methods of the Mantids...
And that would suggest that they are MORE-than-Referees, taking an active role, that he finds somewhat disagreeable.

I wonder if he has had contact with the Tall Whites / Nordics (?)
And, if he knows enough about their methods and motivations, to be able to compare then to the Mantids.

From memory, LMHowe says somewhere in the 1 hour Excerpt, that three groups are being tracked by US military types

+ Reptilians-assisted by-Greys
+ Mantis beings-assisted by-Tall Greys, and
+ Tall White / Nordics

And the last group is least involved, or maybe not involved in DNA manipulations

Nordics and tall whites are not the same, tall white are tall white, tall, white and slim not human looking but humanoids, while nordics are blonds, tall too, but truly human looking

You also have the blonds that are sometimes confounded iwth the Nordics, or a terms sometimes used for Pleiadians and other humans, which are not the same races as Nordic at all.

Here about the Tall Whites: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tes#post824497

Then you also have the taller grey that are whiter, but still greys.

All the above can show up in 3rd, 4th, 5th dimensions, however, humans are in 3rd D, Nordic majorly in 4thD and few in 5thD, while pleaiadians, Lyrans, Sirians are in 5th D and above. Tall Whiteas per the link are in 3rd D, greys are in 3rd D and 4thD in majority.

Than you have Mantids and Reptilians in 4th D, none in 5thD nor in 3thhD unless they have special Equipment/calling.

Then you have all kind of hybrids, human hybrids, greys/reptilians, greys/human, reptilians/human, reptilians/mantid (may be not sure), etc.

[Cardillac]

if one does the research (start with Joseph Farrell) the great pyramids simply have to pre-date the Egyptian civilization so all of these excruciating detailed listings of pharoes supposedly building these structures as burial tombs is simply bogus-

so why did the US Department of Defense spend a lot of time and mega-bucks investigating a burial tomb (read Farrell)?-

if there is one Avalonian on this site who is still yet completely unaware of the mind-boggling, incredibly detailed, impeccably/meticulously documented, compelling research of Joseph Farrell one needs a refresher course in Discernment 101-

spare me stated verbal attacks/diatribes on my commentary praising Farrell unless you have first thoroughly investigated Farrell's work- this man is the most under-estimated whistle-blower out there-

I apologize profusely if my orthography appears slightly aggressive but I still find it difficult and incredibly frustrating to believe people still put stock in "conventional/school-taught") history (like start with the myth pharoes built the pyramids as burial tombs)-

I don't mean to insult anybody but, jeez, folks, do the research; the info is out there-

please stay well all-

Larry

[GuyFox]

"Nordics and tall whites are not the same, tall white are tall white, tall, white and slim not human looking but humanoids, while nordics are blonds, tall too, but truly human looking

You also have the blonds that are sometimes confounded iwth the Nordics, or a terms sometimes used for Pleiadians and other humans, which are not the same races as Nordic at all."
- Flash

Yeah, thanks.
I have seen the thread about Charles White, and certainly the ET's he met were not like "the Nordics"

I used the term Tall Whites, because that was the same term that LM Howe used in the interview, so I was using her words.
Even so, I agree with you - based on what I have read and heard elsewhere - and so it is best to clear up any confusion I might have created, by using LMH's terms.

I am pretty sure that LMH meant Nordics, in fact she also described them as Tall blonde people, and she lumped them with tall red-haired people.



One of these groups, she said had crystal eyes (blue) and another had yellow eyes, "Like some Greeks"

[GuyFox]

"if one does the research (start with Joseph Farrell) the great pyramids simply have to pre-date the Egyptian civilization so all of these excruciating detailed listings of pharoes supposedly building these structures as burial tombs is simply bogus-
. . .
I don't mean to insult anybody but, jeez, folks, do the research; the info is out there-"
- Cardillac

Hmm.
I don't get that comment.
Do you want me to attack Courtney Brown, because his comments, and (maybe) the RV results Farsight got disagree with Joseph P Farrell?

Part of "doing research" is looking into many sources, including those which may differ from the consensus, or differ from what others believe. My Original Post, and the Excerpts make no attempt to confirm or deny the material in the Excerpts - as I said very clearly: "If we take all three interviews on face value, and assume they are accurate, then it may be possible to say..."

I am putting this material on the table for discussion; not laying it out there as confirmed historical fact. Perhaps in citing Dr Farrell. you could be more careful and state precisely what he has said, and give a source from where you took it - then you would be matching the care I have shown in presenting this material.

I think the Dr Brown has provided some interesting new material through the Farsight study on the Giza pyramids. I purposely left Disaster Cat's comments in the Excerpt because she does question his apparent timeline, when she says: "Do you mean (the 2nd group of ET's came) during the New Kingdom?" (at about 11 minutes into the Excerpts Video.)

Look at the Timeline I provided above. The mainstream believes that the great pyramid may have been built, at least partly, during the time of the Pharoah Cheops, that's 2,551-2,528 BC - during the Old Kingdom. Some think that the Great pyramid is much older than that. And I believe that no one believes that major pyramids were built during the New Kingdom, or more recently - the pyramid-building technology had been lost.

Dr Brown spoke of the "chasing away of the first group of ET's" as maybe being associated with the Exodus (or maybe AN exodus, perhaps not the one mentioned in the bible.) It has been difficult to connect The Exodus with historical events, but I believe most scholars think this occurred in the New Kingdom, and that began almost 1,000 years (precise figure is 989 years) after the end of Cheops reign, and also long after the period of chaos which came when the Old Kingdom crumbled in about 2,184 BC. So obviously there are many confusing aspects in the interview that Dr Brown gave with TMRN. Does that invalidate the RV results? It could, to some degree. But I want to listen to the Video produced by Farsight before making that statement. I will be buying one, but do not yet have a copy of the RV results from the $12 (?) Video. Does anyone reading this have a copy? And if so, have you looked carefully into the Timeline issues?

BTW, if you watch the TMRN Video, at about 18 minutes in, Dr Brown speaks about how Dick Elgire had "an interaction with the Praying Mantis lady", she telepathically saw him Remote Viewing her, "And was not vey happy... She told him to get lost." I believe this was recorded in that video, and is something I am looking to watch when I get hold of the video.

(also, I have these notes):

"Before the pyramids were fully built, another group of ET's came in, and disrupted the operation... Sounds an awful lot like the Exodus... People just left... Over 10 years... Society collapsed... Described in the Documentary." - 23:30 - TMRN's Giza Video

[The Castellan]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
I oppose generalizing and/or judging any entire race or species. Perhaps there is a group (or number of groups) present in our 'neighborhood' who have an agenda, but I think it would be unwise to extend that to encompass all beings of any given type. Not that such generalization is the intention here, but rather it is often implicit in discussions of this nature.

In every group there exists a broad spectrum.

My evidence: the human race. The only civilized species which we can observe on a large scale, more intimately than with mere anecdotes/theories.

I been saying that for years. I am not gonna prosecute and judge an entire race. Be it these grasshopper guys (who i'd quite like to meet....I'm quite fond of bugs), or the greys.....the Crabwood crop circle of 2002.....the grey in the picture, I think, is the AUTHOR of the message...and he/she/it is handing us a message. Same for the previous 2001 crop circle in response to Carl Sagan's 1974 radio message.

In my opinion, humans judging the aliens based one one or two examples......it's like feces telling vomit it stinks.


Think about that for a minute.

[GuyFox]

"... these grasshopper guys (who i'd quite like to meet....I'm quite fond of bugs)..."

Do you mean that?
The Mantid that LM Howe mentioned is 8-feet tall. That's a big grasshopper.

The only saving grace is that they know how to "put people at ease" (apart from intruding Remote Viewers, like Dick Elgire), and they are less likely to eat humans than Reptilians are.

[The Castellan]

Posted by GuyFox (here)
"... these grasshopper guys (who i'd quite like to meet....I'm quite fond of bugs)..."

Do you mean that?
The Mantid that LM Howe mentioned is 8-feet tall. That's a big grasshopper.

The only saving grace is that they know how to "put people at ease" (apart from intruding Remote Viewers, like Dick Elgire), and they are less likely to eat humans than Reptilians are.

I've gone to wrestling matches as a kid in the 1990's, I stood face to face with a man who went, and still goes by, the name of "The Undertaker", and he's about 7 feet tall and 305 pounds....covered in skull and snake tattoos, and can roll his eyes back, leaving just the whites showing, has a very long tongue and talks like Lurch from the original Adams Family show......as a kid, he was a monster to behold....and I was not scared of him at all.

Same goes for giant bugs. I WELCOME the unlike, not fear them. You know that old Vulcan line in Star Trek, "Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations", or IDIC for short. I am not going to fear someone or something because he/she/it/other does not look like me. You know those giant horses, the ones that are tanks on legs, pretty much? Same deal.

And I pity any alien who eats the average human, especially the average American....all that transfat, sugar, white flour, GMO's, MSG, and aspartame.

I got a homework assignment for yas, GuyFox. Go to Youtube and look up "Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers: Traash" The episode revolved around an alien race named the Trash, which were 6 foot tall, upright insects. And the series in general is a good science fiction anime like series (Japanese animation studio/American writers). So watch the episode and you'll think quite a bit in the end.

[GuyFox]

... Getting back ON TOPIC:

Kerry Cassidy had a few comments about Mantids, from her interview with Mark Richards

Video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPhG3WP2xM
(About 49 minutes in)
Praying Mantis - have lost power over the last 50 years.
They were initially favorable to the human race
They have had some break-up, a civil war (causing a loss of power here)
PM now are predominantly allies, but are less clearly so now.