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    Quote Posted by SamwiseTheBrave (here)

    It still comes down to this: why would they spray chemicals to change the DNA/poison people when the PTB would be susceptible to whatever the are spraying too? It doesn't make sense to me...
    It could be a non-human/intra-dimensional intelligence responsible and we humans are just the compartmentalized servants executing the plan. As the lie is different on every level, even those so-called "in the know" are probably "in the dark."

    But your explanation seems just as probable to me.

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    You are right bobd, there are many problems with pollution with regards to the issues you point out, however the theme of this thread is pertaining to the shiit they are dumping in the sky via tanker jets. If you have studied Clifford Carnicoms work, you would know that the self replicating bot nano particles, that fall from the sky, directly from these jets, is the exact same entity(for lack of a better term), that is found in the blood/body/skin fibres studied from morgellons sufferers. Self replicating nano disease. These white stringy fibers that fall out of the sky from these planes, has nothing to do with car exhaust. And imo, Stopping burning is not the ONLY solution for getting nano particles out of the environment. The mid air chemical dumping has to come to a complete halt too. I however, sadly, do not see that happening in the near future, or at all even, so detoxing is our only way to fight this.

    And bobd, respectfully, we are not talking about a "handful of jets". We are talking about thousands of jets, that are equipped with tanks full of poison, that they deliberately spray into the air we are breathing. We are not talking about exhaust. We are talking man made recipe for death of plants animals and people.

    I did not know there was even such a thing as Nano particle scavengers, so hopefully there is a viable solution to ridding the body of this garbage.


    on a positive note- a nest full of baby birds just hatched not far from my window and are loudly screaming for their mother to come feed them. Life really is precious.
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    From the Carnicom institute-Grown Inhibition Acheived (morgellons life form)-source http://www.carnicominstitute.org/art...n_achieved.htm


    and here is the link to his main website home page, I highly recommend this material for truly understanding the full effect that we are trying to deal with.
    http://www.carnicominstitute.org/



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    Growth Inhibition Achieved

    Clifford E Carnicom
    January 31 2014

    Note: I am not offering any medical advice or diagnosis with the presentation of this information. I am acting solely as an independent researcher providing the results of extended observation and analysis of unusual biological conditions that are evident. Each individual must work with their own health professional to establish any appropriate course of action and any health related comments in this paper are solely for informational purposes and they are from my own perspective.



    Inhibition of growth of the so-called "Morgellons" condition in a cultured environment has been achieved. The primary agents of reduction here, both literally and chemically, are a series of powerful antioxidants. These include ascorbic acid (vitamin C), N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) and glutathione. The photograph below shows the result of a culturing process which has been subjected to these antioxidants and their impact upon growth; the effects are rapid and repeatable. The source of this culture is the result of a series of incubation, collection, isolation, extraction and purification processes applied to previous cultures. The original cultures are based upon the use of a variety of human, animal and plant samples, each of which produces identical growth forms. One of many precedents for this work is contained within a previous paper entitled, "Morgellons : A Discovery and A Proposal" (Feb 2010). The basis of the current work is a significant advancement in the development of culture methods.

    At the heart of this "condition", from the perspective of this researcher, is the presence of a sub-micron cross-domain bacteria that is extremely resistant to extinction. This postulated bacteria has the property of developing the growth of an enclosing sheath, or filament which further serves to house, protect and transport these same bacteria. This sheath, or enclosing filament, also exists in its most primitive form at the sub-micron level. This protective and resilient sheath appears to be composed largely of a keratin (protein) construct, but it also remains impervious and inpenetrable in comparison to other keratin structures such as hair. It is also known that iron is a core constituent of the bacteria composition, as well as amino acids. A more detailed analysis of the organic nature of the life form is available and has been presented within the paper, "Morgellons - A Working Hypothesis" (Dec 2013). Additional important health considerations and strategies are integrated within that paper, and the issue of antioxidants are one of many central themes presented therein. Readers are seriously advised to become familiar with that work; many equally important issues beyond that of oxidative stress are discussed in detail there.

    DNA from this life form has been isolated and it exists as a priority of research for Carnicom Institute; please see the paper, "DNA Isolated" (Jan 2014).

    It has been stated that the term "Morgellons" is completely insufficient to describe the nature of this life form and its ubiquity in the environment and biology of the planet. The scientific community will be forced to address this deficiency in our future and adequate nomenclature will need to be developed. Ubiquity within biological domains and permanence of existence, even under adverse conditions, will be central to the more complete and scientific characterization and understanding of the life form. Please refer to the paper entitled, "The New Biology" (Jan 2014).





    A comparison of the original culture growth with the same growth subjected to a series of powerful antioxidants : ascorbic acid, N-acetyl cysteine, and glutathione. The culture growth and treatments span a period of approximately 18 hours. The early stage of culture growth is dominated by a rapid increase in the growth of the cross-domain bacteria; the filament sheaths represent a more advanced stage of growth to come later in the process. The culture mediums are composed of water, carbohydrates (fructose) and a chelated metal complex that includes iron, manganese and zinc. The culturing methods are rapid and repeatable and they eventually lead to DNA extraction and isolation. One primary mechanism at work in the effectiveness of the antioxidants is the reduction of iron complexes (specifically, ferric to ferrous) within the bacteria.

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    I use diatomaceous earth (aka fossil flour) in a glass of water for heavy metal detox. Diatomaceous earth has an opposite charge and will attract and draw heavy metals out of the body.

    Also see this thread:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post470824

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    • New RADAR tech is one reason for chemtrails
    • Weather mapping with newer computers is another reason.
      newer systems with better GUI need physical/visual markers to track weather,
      chemtrails could be a tool to map climate and wind patterns
    • object deflection including asteroids, meteors, rockets, and alien craft -- certain particulates can be ENERGIZED
    • disrupt/disorient enemy radar and tracking systems
    • force weather to be cloudy/cold/miserable, force precipitation of potentially hazardous substances
    • deliver vaccines to people who would otherwise refuse(?)
    • remove gene expressions and mutations that don't fit the norm or the capitalist scheme(?)

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    Quote Posted by sheme (here)
    Back to the original reason for starting this thread here are some more things to try -Volvic water no less http://www.naturalnews.com/034607_al...ng_detox.html#

    Thanks for the link Bobd will take a look now.
    Stored aluminum, no question is a problem.. The nano-particle metals, aluminum included are well, nano-in-sized, about the size of viruses.. When they destroy DNA we have a serious situation, like a virus invasion.. Long term removal of large quantities of aluminum salts is a good thing I agree.. Exhaust emission is not just aluminum, the nano-particles are the danger.. If they have aluminum that is nasty stuff, no question.. But exhaust emission, not just from Jets (contrails erroneously being called "chemtrails") is where the aluminum is coming from.. Cement plants, and coal fired power plants..

    I agree with you, get the toxins out.. I'm glad you found the water that can push larger aluminum out of the body - thank YOU for that

    The worry is when they (the metals) are nano-sized, they bind and kill DNA.. and they spread like a virus.. I hope its not too late with nano-metals pollution; we are being bombarded by nano-carbons.

    This is the funny thing, I think hilarious really, when you can SEE a contrail appear, the particles are becoming LARGER than nano-particles, and they are harder to absorb.. It's when you can't see the nanoparticle emission that they are more deadly, cause they are smaller, and HAVE NOT attached to a water particle (that makes such visible).. So visible contrails actually are safer, cause the particle are bigger..

    BUT the emission from the factory down the street, or the automobiles traveling on the M5, M4, M25 etc.., the coal plants, oye... the nano-emission is killing everyone and damaging the plants and animals..

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    Also, we need to remember that this very program that is making everyone sick and dumb, is paid for by us. Yes we are paying for our own assault. Lets rub some salt in the would eh? (sorry)



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    http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070907.htm

    Lots of good information here. Natural vitamin supplies must be favoured over synthetic vitamins as we have already read in the " future Wars" paper that vitamins may be used to deliver nano tags.

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    It is said , chemtrails kill tiny microbes in the atmosphere that normally filter the sun's harmful rays , the process is the main reason it burns white hot these days instead of yellow gold like back in the 70's ...
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    Violent crime has been reduced by 12% in British youth 'radio headline this am', could a chemtrail additive be responsible for this ? As the scientist said he did not know what caused this sharp decrease in established behaviour.

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    Violent crime has been reduced by 12% in British youth 'radio headline this am', could a chemtrail additive be responsible for this ? As the scientist said he did not know what caused this sharp decrease in established behaviour.
    And it could just be words being broadcast from a microphone.

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    Chemtrails are just a part of their grand scheme. The info is out there, they are preparing for a mini ice age which has already begun and it will be in full effect in less than two decades. They are basically preparing for the collapse of modern civilization and they are now desperately fighting over resources like oil. Why won't they release free energy and save us all from the trouble ahead? I'm not sure... Maybe because they're greedy psychopaths incapable of feeling empathy and totally insane? Why would they care if people got sick or killed? They don't care!

    We Could Face Cooling For 200-250 Years’, say Russian scientists

    “Sun could be on the threshold of a mini-Maunder event right now”

    According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is waning, so average yearly temperature will begin to decline as well. Scientists from Britain and the US chime in saying that forecasts for global cooling are far from groundless."


    Now entering a “little ice age,” says physicist

    "Dr Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a physicist and researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico predicted back in 2008 that in about ten years the Earth would enter a “little ice age” which would last from 60 to 80 years and may be caused by the decrease in solar activity.

    Velasco Herrera described IPCC predictions as erroneous. The IPCC models and forecasts are incorrect because only are based on mathematical models and “do not include solar activity.”

    According to Velasco Herrera, satellite data indicate that this period of global cooling could even have already begun, since 2005.

    It looks as if Dr Velasco Herrera’s predictions are coming true."


    Just dive into this page:
    http://iceagenow.info/

    I truly wish that our Sun would not show signs of weakening, but I don't think that it will get much better in the years to come. I'm sorry to say this, but if people in the US thought that this winter was particularly bad then just wait for the next ones...

    http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...nd_minimum.pdf

    We should focus on the solutions and positive changes... As long as there is life there is hope.
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    Violent crime has been reduced by 12% in British youth 'radio headline this am', could a chemtrail additive be responsible for this ? As the scientist said he did not know what caused this sharp decrease in established behaviour.
    Are there any large meditation groups there, perhaps?

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    You are right Wind, it could very well be some explanation as that. I really need to try to not be so cynical all the time.

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    You are right Wind, it could very well be some explanation as that. I really need to try to not be so cynical all the time.
    Well I understand you, it's sometimes hard not to be cynical in times like these.
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    Quote Posted by Boeing
    Remember, we test at the extremes of the weight/CG envelope. This requires us to control the CG during ground and flight conditions. We can move weight, in the form of water, forward or aft with the use of the water ballast system. This system is comprised of 48 barrels, each capable of carrying 460 pounds, connected by tubing to a pump. A computerized system tracks fuel placement, fuel burn, people placement, ballast, flap setting, landing gear position and water barrel quantity. The information is processed to display the airplane’s current CG. We move water or specify fuel tank usage to configure the CG within the specified test requirements.


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    This photo from airliner.net has been used to promote the chemtrails conspircy theory by claiming Facebook are closing accounts of people who post it:
    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boein...8JK/1939853/L/



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    This plane is not for spraying the atmosphere, it’s for sampling the atmosphere. It’s a research aircraft, registration N701BN, operated by the department of energy’s national labs. It’s pretty much one of a kind, so it’s hardly likely to be responsible for all the persistent contrails we see every day. The research is mostly on pollutants in the atmosphere, particularly from coal and oil burning power plants. But they also investigate the properties of clouds, which includes contrails.



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    Quote Posted by Boeing
    Remember, we test at the extremes of the weight/CG envelope. This requires us to control the CG during ground and flight conditions. We can move weight, in the form of water, forward or aft with the use of the water ballast system. This system is comprised of 48 barrels, each capable of carrying 460 pounds, connected by tubing to a pump. A computerized system tracks fuel placement, fuel burn, people placement, ballast, flap setting, landing gear position and water barrel quantity. The information is processed to display the airplane’s current CG. We move water or specify fuel tank usage to configure the CG within the specified test requirements.


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    This photo from airliner.net has been used to promote the chemtrails conspircy theory by claiming Facebook are closing accounts of people who post it:
    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boein...8JK/1939853/L/



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    The plane is not for spraying the atmosphere, it’s for sampling the atmosphere. It’s a research aircraft, registration N701BN, operated by th e department of energy’s national labs. It’s pretty much one of a kind, so it’s hardly likely to be responsible for all the persistent contrails we see every day. The research is mostly on pollutants in the atmosphere, particularly from coal and oil burning power plants. But they also investigate the properties of clouds, which includes contrails.

    Are you saying you do not believe in chemtrails? I have seen many debunkers claim the same thing as you are saying. My point for posting these photos is to show the capabilities of how this program is done. They fill the planes with tanks and hook it up to the nozzles where ever they may be installed on an individual plane, and spray away. If these are NOT chemtrail set ups, then I am sure a real chemtrail set up would look similar if not exactly like shown in these pictures. If you have a better source for authentic chemtrail plane photos, I would love to see.
    Or are you debunking the chemtrail program all together, (oops I mean geoengineering).

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    chemtrail tankers drop payloads full of silk "looking" fibers-check
    morgellons is probably caused by chemtrail debri-check
    Elites are immune-check

    How do elites escape chemtrails?

    Quote Posted by lifeform11
    it seems silly that they would poison themselves [...] they could be taking tablets that protect them from the effects.
    Quote Posted by AriesJedi
    Because they know how to avoid the side affects by using antidotes and supplements.
    Quote Posted by kimish
    So then, where are these hundreds of thousands of family members getting their antidotes and who is making and providing the antidotes to said people?
    Quote Posted by luxordelphi
    Why would elites chemtrail themselves along with us?
    Quote Posted by IsawWHATtheyDID
    the elites are of an alien origin, and are not affected by what affects us.
    Quote Posted by knowledgedesired
    What if there were a type of fruit and vitamin that you could taken which would negate the effects of what they are spaying all over the place
    Quote Posted by moniesisfun
    So yea, why would they be dumping stuff that's just gonna kill us all . makes no sense.
    Quote Posted by GameKeeper
    because they have RH blood type.
    Quote Posted by tsurfer2000h
    where are these antidotes being made,who is transporting them and what about the people who make these antidotes are they in on this conspiracy?
    Quote Posted by DrGod
    Because the elite don't take vaccines and the masses do.
    Quote Posted by Aloysius the Gaul
    Actually the elite avoid it easily [...] they don't get vaccinated and/or ingest fluoride and they are good as gold.
    Quote Posted by partycrasher
    The elite may stay inside more, use umbrellas when outside, utilize better air filters in their homes and vehicles.
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    we take a pill monthly that cost 10,000 dollars that totally counters chemtrails effects....if you can afford the pill you can also be one of us....
    So if your are on the pill, you also know who is going to be the next President, care to share?
    Obama will be still.... mark my words....
    Quote Posted by VforVendettea
    Because the upper .1% don't live anywhere near where the chemtrails are. When and if they ever need to go there the chemtrails stop a week or so before they step foot off their plane.
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    access to deep undergrounds and advanced filtration security measures.

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    http://youtu.be/c34U0Pwz4_c?t=2m9s (discussing tank configuration in planes)

    Thread started to discuss detox please can I refer you to this video. http://youtu.be/X3lW-TGGlk0?t=27m8s Vitamin E saffron curcumin and other important information in this video also useful information for Autism sufferers here.
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-c...b_5069973.html

    Just in case America wondered what the bad weather was about, the magician takes the wand officially .

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