Dulce Base: The Truth and Evidence from the Case Files of Gabe Valdez

[christian]

I just finished reading this book written by the son of Gabe Valdez, which presents a huge amount of facts and names a lot of names. Gabe Valdez was the state police officer who arguably has the biggest publicly available collection of evidence regarding the Dulce mystery. This collection can be viewed online at dulcebasebook.com.

To give you the gist of it, it seems that there are no aliens involved and that it was an operation mainly conducted by the air force, the CIA, the NSA, and several private contractors. It was about radiation testing of cattle (and in some cases humans) close to atomic test areas in the area around Dulce, about chemical, biological, and other weapons testing, and it was about testing of classified aircraft. Dulce was apparently chosen because it was conveniently located between several installations of the aforementioned institutions and within remote native American territory.

The whole alien element of the Dulce story was introduced after Paul Bennewitz found a way to track classified aircraft that was frequently traveling through the area and invisible to the naked eye. Paul contacted the authorities and without understanding what he found revealed to them a weakness of this aircraft. Subsequently, Bennewitz was fed both accurate info about some events but also disinfo to make him believe that what he saw was alien craft. From there, the whole building of lies and accurate info spiraled out into the stories about Dulce that can be found today.

Interestingly, the MJ-12 documents are apparently part of the disinfo that was fed to Bennewitz. Phil Schneider's widely publicized Dulce testimony seems to be fraudulent as well and is based on some of the disinfo that was fed to Bennewitz and got to Schneider through others who were in contact with Bennewitz. It seems that Schneider was simply physically sick, broke, and in it for the money. He may have been killed though, maybe to make his account seem credible, his autopsy was definitely conducted in a sloppy manner, as Gabe Valdez concluded. After Schneider's death, his widow would contact a lot of people asking for money first while acting and communicating quite incoherently overall.

Now, a lot of information in the book is devoted to evidence surrounding the cattle mutilations around Dulce. As mentioned, these mutilations apparently had to do with radiation, weapons, and aircraft testing, but one might wonder why they wouldn't get rid of the mutilated carcasses and why they wouldn't try to hide the evidence of some kind of unidentified aircraft landing close to the cattle. The book offers an explanation for that:

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The book also offers and explanation for the reports of alien abductions by residents of the area:

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As for the broken links, I really don't remember what they were about, except for being quotes from this very interesting book, Dulce Base.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

my father in law witnessed this at White Sands or nearby.
he said when he was in the Army, he saw an area of a base where there were cattle with electrodes sticking out of their skulls.
and this was around the Korean War, so... how many decades of advancement are we looking at?

Is it even possible to think of it in linear terms when we know how discovery works?
Magnitudes, not linear....

[Latti]

My knowledge of the Dulce site is very limited, but I was a cattle rancher near some of the cattle mutilations and know at least one rancher involved. I don't believe the radiation testing theory. It doesn't agree with the facts. Radiation testing of cattle can be performed in a much simpler way with far less time and expense. It also doesn't explain how the mutilations were performed with such precision and bloodless.

Also I have firsthand knowledge of several events reported in the Newspaper and not one story stated the facts accurately. Originally, I thought the Newspaper Reporters were incompetent, but now I'm inclined to believe that the disinformation was intentional.

[giovonni]

Hey Christian ~ i see your in my hometown of DC ...

i sense the brainwashing has already begun ...

just joking ...

[christian]

Posted by Latti (here)
My knowledge of the Dulce site is very limited, but I was a cattle rancher near some of the cattle mutilations and know at least one rancher involved. I don't believe the radiation testing theory. It doesn't agree with the facts. Radiation testing of cattle can be performed in a much simpler way with far less time and expense. It also doesn't explain how the mutilations were performed with such precision and bloodless.

I don't see how it doesn't agree with the facts. It may not seem plausible at first sight, that's true, because of course radiation testing can be done in a much simpler way. This is all addressed in the book, however, and it's all based on facts and evidence, so I suggest you read the whole thing if you're interested. The conclusion drawn in the book is that if the government would do official tests, this would cause a chain of events that they don't want to have, law suits and so on. Officially, there's no issue with radiation whatsoever, and they want to keep it that way. So they used classified aircraft and technology to perform the mutilations and let people believe aliens did it. This way they could test their classified craft and perform the radiation and weapon testing all in one go. They're really just messing with people.

And looking at it, why would the alien theory be more plausible than this? Why would aliens do such things, and why are there no reports of such mutilations further back in history?

[christian]

Posted by giovonni (here)
Hey Christian ~ i see your in my hometown of DC ...

i sense the brainwashing has already begun ...

just joking ...

Traveling through, met some really good people here, go figure...

[jake gittes]

There was a good movie called "Endangered Species" (1982) with Robert Urich and JoBeth Williams that used the cow mutilation mystery as its basis.

[Latti]

Follow up comments:
The book is a good read and has extensive details of activities around the Dulce area. In no way did I intend to cast any doubt about the investigations of Officer Valdez.

The events mentioned in the book that occurred in my area were separated from events at Dulce by more that a decade and hundreds of miles. I didn't live close to Dulce or the jurisdiction of Officer Valdez. The book does mention the events in my area, but doesn't claim that they were investigated by Officer Valdez.

The book names an individual sharing information about mutilations in my area. The named individual was in this area, but later. His investigations were based on statements he obtained from others.

[Tyy1907]

They were just messin with people? Like just foolin around? Funny joke ahahahah, doesn't feel true to me. Phil seemed like the real deal to me.

[christian]

Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
They were just messin with people? Like just foolin around? Funny joke ahahahah, doesn't feel true to me. Phil seemed like the real deal to me.

I mean like treating people like garbage.

It's funny, in the book Greg Valdez says he thinks that most people want to hear about aliens, but all the evidence he has—of classified craft, facilities in the area, and experiments in the area—points toward human involvement. He shares all that evidence, and it's a lot. Phil Schneider on the other hand has nothing to show for to prove his story. He had, however, had contact to John Lear, who was in contact with Paul Bennewitz. Through Lear, Schneider received some information about Dulce. But Bennewitz had been led to believe that Dulce is run by aliens, which was to muddy the waters. Two of the guys who fed too much info, partly real info, to Bennewitz had major career setbacks because of their inconsiderate actions. They overplayed it. Anyways, Schneider later expanded on the information he got through Lear with his own fabrications. In his interview with Camelot, Lear also admitted that photos in the Dulce Papers allegedly by someone named Thomas Costello were drawn by him.

[tnkayaker]

this is just a thought but wouldnt it behoove someone on the inside to say there were actually no aliens just to really confuse everyone? i mean think about it, it could easily be both alien and human involvement but one guy says one thing and the other says the opposite but says its really some of this but none if that, gimme a break i dont think we will know the real truth behind many things in this lifetime, its just too much of a rabbit hole with too much money and money making interests at the root of it, when greed and money are the base elements nothing can be taken for face value, i do believe aliens may have seeded human beings, not that that may be a bad thing, it just makes or could make some sense, i still believe in God also though,or at least a supreme being, so go figure,im prolly wrong about all of this , i was just pondering, lol , peace,dennis

[christian]

I feel very certain that there is human/alien interaction since ages, but not at the Dulce base, it seems. It could be, but there simply is no concrete evidence. Yet on the other hand it seems to be a fact that the alien story in regard to Dulce was initially fabricated by the air force to mislead Bennewitz.

In the book, Greg Valdez concludes:

To simplify things, just think Cold War era for most of this story. It appears many of these projects started during the time of the Manhattan Project, especially around 1947 with Project Paperclip. Some of this technology even dates back to Nikola Tesla but became viable around 1947. There was a decrease in activity around Dulce around the time the Cold War ended, and then it started increasing when space technology started becoming more relevant than nuclear technology. The current evidence indicates that the Cold War was replaced by the race for space technology and space capabilities by the United States and other countries. Much of the evidence surrounding Dulce deals with research into space technology and aircraft.

[sigma6]

Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
They were just messin with people? Like just foolin around? Funny joke ahahahah, doesn't feel true to me. Phil seemed like the real deal to me.

Was gonna say the same thing... Phil was broke and needed money? After working where he said he worked? He was in it for the money? And he got killed to make it look real? none of that adds up at all... And if he was promoting the alien agenda, why not let him promote it instead of attempting to kill him on 13 different occasions? The Cattle mutilation did seem like a government related radiation testing... but that doesn't explain all of it... like someone else said if the government wanted to, they could just walk in and do whatever testing they wanted using basic health and safety regs because that area was nuclear infected... if anything the cow mutilation (to me) seems so blatantly obvious, like whoever did it wanted it to be "discovered" to cause public reaction, to quite possibly create "mystery"... i.e it is some kind of distraction. Why leave the bodies? when I see something like this ...I fee there are multiple factors at work here.. always the hardest thing for people to troubleshoot...

If anything I would be questioning the cop... look at where he is coming from. As usual people have it completely 180 degrees backwards from watching all the media related info about police since childhood, and sorry to say it is all completely false and designed to mold your perception in such a way that you are going to keep forking over those millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars and the whole system is under control of freemason groups... I don't care how many nice cops (stooges) you know... When are people going to pull their heads out and add 2 plus 2?... and Phil "was in it for the money?'' bahahahaaha sorry... don't mean to step on toes... but I would have to see this guy in a live interview, and even then I still couldn't see how that would add up, against the greater body of context... so right now I can't buy that Christian, with all due respect. My first gut, is that he is misinformed or on the dole. Cops and bribes is like bread and butter.

This is very sad that this is what they are trying to do to the memory of Phil Schneider, but that does sound exactly like the tactics these guys use. Very long term, for ever on going. As we should be forever vigilant.

[sigma6]

Posted by christian (here)
I feel very certain that there is human/alien interaction since ages, but not at the Dulce base, it seems. It could be, but there simply is no concrete evidence. Yet on the other hand it seems to be a fact that the alien story in regard to Dulce was initially fabricated by the air force to mislead Bennewitz.

In the book, Greg Valdez concludes:

To simplify things, just think Cold War era for most of this story. It appears many of these projects started during the time of the Manhattan Project, especially around 1947 with Project Paperclip. Some of this technology even dates back to Nikola Tesla but became viable around 1947. There was a decrease in activity around Dulce around the time the Cold War ended, and then it started increasing when space technology started becoming more relevant than nuclear technology. The current evidence indicates that the Cold War was replaced by the race for space technology and space capabilities by the United States and other countries. Much of the evidence surrounding Dulce deals with research into space technology and aircraft.

Wouldn't all that support the possibility of an alien connection? The Nazis were involved with Tesla, as well as alien entities through the Vril Society. Could the "slowdown" have been simply the increase in underground activity?

[christian]

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Phil was broke and needed money? After working where he said he worked?

Where he said he worked, that's the point. There's no proof to validate this claims, however, there is proof for the contrary, it's given in the book. Phil received welfare (or whatever it was called) but it wasn't much.

Posted by sigma6 (here)
And if he was promoting the alien agenda, why not let him promote it instead of attempting to kill him on 13 different occasions?

Certainly makes him look legitimate when he gets killed for what he said, doesn't it? Besides, it's not sure whether he was killed or not.

Posted by sigma6 (here)
The Cattle mutilation did seem like a government related radiation testing... but that doesn't explain all of it... like someone else said if the government wanted to, they could just walk in and do whatever testing they wanted using basic health and safety regs because that area was nuclear infected... if anything the cow mutilation (to me) seems so blatantly obvious, like whoever did it wanted it to be "discovered" to cause public reaction, to quite possibly create "mystery"... i.e it is some kind of distraction. Why leave the bodies?

Like I said before, do not let the public know there is a radiation issue, leave the bodies to scare ranchers. If they just let the carcasses disappear, ranchers would stay out to guard their cattle. So, they are confronted with a scary mystery.

Posted by sigma6 (here)
My first gut, is that he is misinformed or on the dole. Cops and bribes is like bread and butter.

So you suspect that Gabe and Greg Valdez are on the dole, although there is no evidence for that, yet you disregard the blatant evidence that the air force and the CIA are involved in the creation of the alien story?

Posted by sigma6 (here)
Wouldn't all that support the possibility of an alien connection? The Nazis were involved with Tesla, as well as alien entities through the Vril Society. Could the "slowdown" have been simply the increase in underground activity?

It's possible, but holding it against the provable facts it's an unsubstantiated sensationalist conspiracy theory.

I'm really surprised by the reactions here. It seems true, people just wanna hear about aliens, regardless of the facts. Something similar happened when I presented evidence that the Dogon/Sirius relation doesn't seem to be genuine. Conspiracy theorists don't wanna hear that, it seems, they wanna hear aliens in every story.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0iWhRMH_NCg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OjttrfPQxu8

[christian]

Here is a video with Greg Valdez, it's on the main page of dulcebasebook.com:


Source: Watch on Vimeo

[OnyxKnight]

Hi Christian. An interesting topic.

I'm not quick on picking any side of the story, I try to rule out things first. You said it was a site for testing advanced and classified projects craft. Especially regarding space-related technology. From what has been said about those particular things in Dulce, this is beyond what we have today, even if we look at it from the secret projects' side. As far as solely original human invention is concerned. Where did they get this amazing tech? That's the question. The closest thing I could admit (for me personally) that is possible is hybrid technology or back-engineered extraterrestrial technology. They acquired the same from somewhere.

The other thing is a question I have. I haven't read the book (might not read it at all), but since you read it, I'd like to ask, have the carcasses been tested positive for radiation poisoning?