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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    Crimean Residents To Face Russian-Style Repression
    Posted by Tom Malinowski April 25, 2014

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    About the Author: Tom Malinowki serves as Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor.
    Even though Putin and the Russian military are definitely no saints, that article sounds like a well-written and well-contemplated piece of spin doctoring to me. But then again, we already knew that The Powers That Be were going to be playing out this card, didn't we?

    They did the same thing with regard to alleged atrocities committed by Saddam in Kuwait and Gaddafi in Libya. Undoubtedly, some of that will have been real, but most of it was just spin and propaganda. I expect no different here.

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    I posted author info just to quietly point that out, but thanks for putting it into words of understanding...

    no one wins in war, but we need to watch the manipulation from all sides...


    expect a lot of you can't say Putin without poo...

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    I posted author info just to quietly point that out, but thanks for putting it into words of understanding...

    no one wins in war, but we need to watch the manipulation from all sides...


    expect a lot of you can't say Putin without poo...
    What annoys me about this issue at the moment is how the mainstream media are playing it as if there already is a war going on between the West and Russia. I hold the mainstream media just as accountable for war mongering as I do Obama, the EU and all of their cronies.

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    These anti-Russian leaflets are being dropped from helicopters over eastern Ukraine



    Quote Strange things have been happening in eastern Ukraine, a place swirling with rumors of imminent invasion by the "Little Green Men" (what the suspected Russian troops without insignia are being called).

    A couple of British journalists and I were driving back to our hotel after a day of chasing news on the outskirts of Slovyansk when Boris, our intrepid taxi driver, pointed out the window and shouted, “Look at that!”

    We, or at least I, ducked -- but then we looked. It was a large gray military-style helicopter. And something was falling out of the sky.

    It was dropping leaflets, which fluttered toward the highway to Kramatorsk, then drifted in the spring breeze into a cow field and apple orchard.

    Mission accomplished. A couple of locals pulled over, and so did we, to grab a handful out of the trees.

    “Dear Peaceful Citizens of Kramatorsk and Slovyansk!” The leaflets read. “Here are your instructions on how to SURVIVE in the territories where Russian terrorists act.”

    There was a black and white image of a masked man with a Kalashnikov and then what appears to be the Ukrainian Security Service version of a listicle. The first point:

    1. “Don’t go close to the occupied buildings. You can become a human shield or hostage. It is a good picture for Russian media.”

    Russian media are generally seen by the government in Kiev as instruments of the Russian state, especially President Vladimir Putin.

    2. “Don’t listen to those who spout propaganda for federalization. They're being paid 1000 UAH per day.”

    That would be about $80 a day, which is real money in eastern Ukraine, where in July 2013 the average monthly salary was 3901 UAH, or about $312 at today’s rates.

    The instructions continue: They ask peace-loving citizens to inform law enforcement about suspicious people and groups of people carrying bags. They ask, please, don't join any self-defense groups: They're anti-Ukrainian.

    Also: Avoid participating in mass rallies.

    The leaflet warns that there are Russian GRU assets circulating in the crowds (GRU is Russia's military intelligence directorate) and that “they might liquidate those who criticize Russian politics.”

    On that note, the instructions also warn the peaceful citizens to keep themselves and loved ones away from terrorists and anti-Ukrainian actions. Why? Because "all those who participate in anti-Ukrainian actions are potential victims.”​

    You can see the full leaflet below: link

    this old video suddenly is on the top play list...




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    "Exclusive: Kerry Warns Israel Could Become ‘An Apartheid State’

    The secretary of state said that if Israel doesn’t make peace soon, it could become ‘an apartheid state,’ like the old South Africa. Jewish leaders are fuming over the comparison.

    If there’s no two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict soon, Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state,” Secretary of State John Kerry told a room of influential world leaders in a closed-door meeting Friday.

    Senior American officials have rarely, if ever, used the term "apartheid" in reference to Israel, and President Obama has previously rejected the idea that the word should apply to Jewish State. Kerry's use of the loaded term is already rankling Jewish leaders in America—and is almost certain to do the same to Israeli leaders abroad.

    It wasn't the only controversial comment on the Middle East that Kerry made during his remarks to the Trilateral Commission, a recording of which was obtained by The Daily Beast. Kerry also repeated his warning that a failure of Middle East peace talks could lead to a resumption of Palestinian violence against Israeli citizens. He suggested that a change in either the Israeli or Palestinian leadership could make achieving a peace deal more feasible. He lashed out against Israeli settlement-building. And Kerry said that both Israeli and Palestinian leaders share the blame for the current impasse in the talks.

    Kerry also said that at some point, he might unveil his own peace deal and tell both sides to “take it or leave it.”

    “A two-state solution will be clearly underscored as the only real alternative. Because a unitary state winds up either being an apartheid state with second class citizens—or it ends up being a state that destroys the capacity of Israel to be a Jewish state,” Kerry told the group of senior officials and experts from the U.S., Western Europe, Russia, and Japan. “Once you put that frame in your mind, that reality, which is the bottom line, you understand how imperative it is to get to the two state solution, which both leaders, even yesterday, said they remain deeply committed to.”

    According to the 1998 Rome Statute, the “crime of apartheid” is defined as “inhumane acts… committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” The term is most often used in reference to the system of racial segregation and oppression that governed South Africa from 1948 until 1994.

    Former president Jimmy Carter came under fire in 2007 for titling his book on Middle East peace Palestine: Peace or Apartheid. Carter has said publicly that his views on Israeli treatment of the Palestinians are a main cause of his poor relationship with President Obama and his lack of current communication with the White House. But Carter explained after publishing the book that he was referring to apartheid type policies in the West Bank, not Israel proper, and he was not accusing Israel of institutionalized racism.

    “Apartheid is a word that is an accurate description of what has been going on in the West Bank, and it's based on the desire or avarice of a minority of Israelis for Palestinian land,” Carter said.

    Leading experts, including Richard Goldstone, a former justice of the South African Constitutional Court who led the United Nations fact-finding mission on the Gaza conflict of 2008 and 2009, have argued that comparisons between the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians and “apartheid” are offensive and wrong.

    “One particularly pernicious and enduring canard that is surfacing again is that Israel pursues ‘apartheid’ policies,” Goldstone wrote in The New York Times in 2011. “It is an unfair and inaccurate slander against Israel, calculated to retard rather than advance peace negotiations.”

    In a 2008 interview with Jeffrey Goldberg, then-Sen. Barack Obama shot down the notion that the word “apartheid” was acceptable in a discussion about Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians:

    “There’s no doubt that Israel and the Palestinians have tough issues to work out to get to the goal of two states living side by side in peace and security, but injecting a term like apartheid into the discussion doesn’t advance that goal,” Obama said. “It’s emotionally loaded, historically inaccurate, and it’s not what I believe.”

    State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told The Daily Beast that Kerry was simply repeating his view, shared by others, that a two-state solution is the only way for Israel to remain a Jewish state in peace with the Palestinians.

    “Secretary Kerry, like Justice Minister Livni, and previous Israeli Prime Ministers Olmert and Barak, was reiterating why there's no such thing as a one-state solution if you believe, as he does, in the principle of a Jewish State. He was talking about the kind of future Israel wants and the kind of future both Israelis and Palestinians would want to envision,” she said. “The only way to have two nations and two peoples living side by side in peace and security is through a two-state solution. And without a two-state solution, the level of prosperity and security the Israeli and Palestinian people deserve isn't possible.”

    But leaders of pro-Israel organizations told The Daily Beast that Kerry’s reference to “apartheid” was appalling and inappropriately alarmist because of its racial connotations and historical context.

    “While we’ve heard Secretary Kerry express his understandable fears about alternative prospects for Israel to a two-state deal and we understand the stakes involved in reaching that deal, the use of the word ‘apartheid’ is not helpful at all. It takes the discussion to an entirely different dimension,” said David Harris, executive director of the American Jewish Committee, an organization that has been supportive of Kerry’s peace process initiative. “In trying to make his point, Kerry reaches into diplomatic vocabulary to raise the stakes, but in doing so he invokes notions that have no place in the discussion.”

    Kerry has used dire warnings twice in the past to paint a picture of doom for Israel if the current peace process fails. Last November, Kerry warned of a third intifada of Palestinian violence and increased isolation of Israel if the peace process failed. In March, Democrats and Republican alike criticized Kerry for suggesting that if peace talks fail, it would bolster the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel.

    “It’s in the Palestinian playbook to tie Israel to these extreme notions of time being on the Palestinian side, that demographics are on the Palestinian side, and that Israel has to confront notions of the Jewishness of the state,” he said.

    Kerry on Friday repeated his warning that a dissolution of the peace process might lead to more Palestinian violence. “People grow so frustrated with their lot in life that they begin to take other choices and go to dark places they’ve been before, which forces confrontation,” he said.

    The secretary of state also implied, but did not say outright, that if the governments of Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu or Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas left power, there could be a change in the prospects for peace. If “there is a change of government or a change of heart,” Kerry said, “something will happen.”

    Kerry criticized Israeli settlement construction as being unhelpful to the peace process and he also criticized Palestinian leaders for making statements that declined to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state.

    “There is a fundamental confrontation and it is over settlements. Fourteen thousand new settlement units announced since we began negotiations. It’s very difficult for any leader to deal under that cloud,” Kerry said.

    He acknowledged that the formal negotiating process that he initiated and led since last summer may soon stop. But he maintained that his efforts to push for a final settlement will continue in one form or another.

    “The reports of the demise of the peace process have consistently been misunderstood and misreported. And even we are now getting to the moment of obvious confrontation and hiatus, but I would far from declare it dead,” Kerry said. “You would say this thing is going to hell in a hand basket, and who knows, it might at some point, but I don’t think it is right now, yet.”

    Kerry gave both Israeli and Palestinian leaders credit for sticking with the peace process for this long. But he added that both sides were to blame for the current impasse in the talks; neither leader was ready to make the tough decisions necessary for achieving peace.

    “There’s a period here where there needs to be some regrouping. I don’t think it’s unhealthy for both of them to have to stare over the abyss and understand where the real tensions are and what the real critical decisions are that have to be made,” he said. “Neither party is quite ready to make it at this point in time. That doesn’t mean they don’t have to make these decisions.”

    Kerry said that he was considering, at some point, publicly laying out a comprehensive U.S. plan for a final agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians, in a last ditch effort to forge a deal before the Obama administration leaves office in 2017.

    “We have enough time to do any number of things, including the potential at some point in time that we will just put something out there. ‘Here it is folks. This is what it looks like. Take it or leave it,’” Kerry said." link

    This is over a year old, but exactly how most Jews feel...



    " Published on Dec 2, 2012

    Miko Peled was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also served his time. When Miko's niece was killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, you may have expected the family to put Palestinians at fault, but surprisingly they blamed the state of Israel, and their violent torturing and persecution for driving people to such sadness that they would take their own lives.

    Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians, and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks.

    Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against Zionism and the state of Israel, and with the information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story."

    -----------------------------------------------------
    This letter, is from top Christian Leaders in the US to Congress...

    "Fifteen religious leaders representing many major faith groups in the country, have written a letter to Congress seeking to make U.S. military aid to Israel contingent upon its government’s “compliance with applicable U.S. laws and policies.”

    Signers of the letter include Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) General Assembly Stated Clerk Gradye Parsons.

    The signers say they “have worked for decades to support both Israelis and Palestinians in their desire to live in peace and well-being” and “have witnessed the pain and suffering of Israelis as a result of Palestinian actions and of Palestinians as a result of Israeli actions.”

    Though they recognize that both Israelis and Palestinians bear responsibility for the prolonged violence in the region, “unconditional U.S. military assistance to Israel has contributed to deteriorating conditions in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories which threaten to lead the region further away from the realization of a just peace. Furthermore, such aid sustains the conflict and undermines the long-term security interests of both Israelis and Palestinians.”

    The signers urge an immediate investigation into possible violations by Israel of the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act and the U.S. Arms Export Control Act, which respectively prohibit assistance to any country which engages in a consistent pattern of human rights violations and limit the use of U.S. weapons to “internal security” or “legitimate self-defense.”

    They urge Congress to hold hearings to examine Israel’s compliance, and request regular reporting on compliance and the withholding of military aid for non-compliance.

    The signers see a troubling and consistent pattern of disregard by the government of Israel for U.S. policies that support a just and lasting peace..." link


    Aid Restrictions and Possible Violations

    Quote Although U.S. assistance to Israel has remained high for several decades, the United States has sometimes restricted aid or rebuked Israel...


    Some U.S. citizens and interest groups periodically call upon Congress to ensure that U.S. military assistance to Israel is conditioned on the Israeli government’s “compliance with applicable U.S. laws and policies.” link
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    The last video is very powerful. For what it is worth, I very much recommend it.
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    Thanks Rocky, I think that posting Miko Peled's video is very fitting here and suitable for this conversation, he speakes about Zionism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and touches all the points that we all identify as defective, immoral, and in stark contrast to human rights. Of course, he does so in the frame of the allowable and non-risky range of the political- human rights arena and not exposing the one dominating force that rules our world.

    In a way, I find that there is a parallelism between Miko Peled and Noam Chomsky, They both deal with the 'nitty gritty' of political life, U.S.A, Israel, Palestinians relations, the imbalance of power, injustice, the distorted vision of our leaders and the diseases of the government, an incredible and courageous and wise analysis which does not threaten the cabal's empire, and so the carousel continues to move around and the door of the cage is about to be closed. Such is also the keeping up with what happens in Russia, Ukraine and the U.S as is reflected in the public discourse, It's all mostly moving around the central nucleus of the inside game perspective and without an understanding of the main cause of the problem and the need to disconnect from it, sticking a nail in the wheels of the system and stopping it from moving. In this sense, it was good to hear Chomsky points to the problem this last week, after all, without waking up to the real on-goings of this reality and calling a spade a spade, there is no way to reach a solution.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/america...ration/5339835

    Both sides, the three or four of them are checkers in the same game, the more rational directive of our thoughts need to be on how is it possible for us to disembark from them.

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    For those who still like to dwell in analysis, here is a good character judgment of Putin by Fritz Springmeier who has a good eye for these guys

    http://plazilla.com/page/4295131337/...tz-springmeier

    Very Best,

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    The latest from Clif High and a summary from some listener.



    "War in ukraine. major warfare near end of june. summer solstice. short. ukraine joins back to russia

    Has profounds effects. extensive crosslinks. leads to greater financial war that is overhead. the financial war is the war. the fighting on the ground is not the real war compared to the financial war. the financial war is causing the elements on the ground. the war has over 1000 resulting crosslinks and sets. crosslinks over to silver. crack up boom. desparate drunken intoxicated out of mind feverish hallucinating state of brain and desperate attempt to bail on dollar. spend it all before its useless.

    Gold selloff tied to central banks and ukraine war. populace invested in gold will get very worried as gold tanks and driven down by people trying to unload metals to pay for the war. price of gold will drop down low due to massive unloading of gold into the market. announced gold sale amidst outburst of activity around ukraine. emotion crushing blow to gold bugs so distressed over the sale of the gold announcement.

    The results are not what the central banksters want. This one gold sale alone at an active auction and fist to cuffs battle to get a seat. undermining of bidders. Nasty brutal situation. its over sold. a panic buying situation where the sellers get the wrong affect and this actually drives gold up massively. the news around this sale and how crazy it was actually drives the price up for demand for gold. after auction is over none of gold is sold and people are given money back.

    Escalation in financial war. Certain events occur connected to diaspora. Not sure What it is. an announced gold sale. some gold may be antique. some jewelry. some panic buy. unanticipated side effect. has large human interest points. wide audience. causes a price spike.

    Ukraine war june 20ish - transformative. advent of war at the time ends up with positive impact from data sets on large amount of populace. transformative for populace. in the end brings a boost in investment capital into ukraine and a rebuilding there. cross connects from start of war to beginning of transformation.

    The cabal thats controlling everything are running into a number of walls.
    transformation goes back to dollar. at initial stage till end of june.end up with dollar transformation that began with the war. terminates in set. a very small error will start to bring about the dispersion of presumed assets of debt of the FED. sets show that nothing the FED does works anymore. dispersion of presumed assets of FED is caused by their mistake. emotional indicators already over 59% of the emotional response range. staggering success for hph was the concordia falling over at just 35% so this is a really good hit. small error really starts building. it might have already occurred. cant tell if it has or not.

    FED will be forced to do something that exposes them. Shows that they are an expired dead corpse. Paper tiger is dead.

    when dispersion occurs that is heavily crosslinked to beginning of period of Grand Confusion that exists within the anglo western countries. not limited. its all of the anglo american empire as dollar takes a spike thru the heart. vampies back to the grave.

    crossliks over to precious metals control or suppression. crosslinks back to gold panic which occurr later. panic buy creates an emotional wave around planet. sets off new price evaluation for gold and silver world wide.

    silver supression ends with small error from FED when it finally manifests out. boots on ground in ukraine is liberation and silver is free from suppression. lots of people welcome it. they are victors of financial war when ukraine is freed. new stage of global politics.

    when silver supression cracks the price rockets up. descriptors are springs let loose. shooting to moon. rising super fast. energy so long restrained knows no bounds. relative to dollar dying. dispersion of assets vaporization of their assets. might be before june solstice.

    dispersion set of dollar - silver skyrockets when dollar is dispersed and FED looses all of its fake assets. they are vaporized instantly.

    4 major sets point to the solstice as linked to silver and the dollar.

    other sets about silver independent of gold are linked to ukraine war on or before the solstice.

    extreme weather all the way thru spring into summer. out of season wind and rain conditions. battering of california coast all down into Baja. clif has winter storms in spring in his area. expects those in california soon as well.

    wind pattern is key. lots of winds causing issues. hurricanes in mediterranean and red sea maybe. so much weather everywhere.

    a potention-ometer - able to predict amount of certainty in predictions. percentages.

    thinks he has a way figured out to be more accurate with predictions for certain things. maybe. might be able to fine tune it by looking at certain events and monitoring them to see how valid the predictions are based on a known event. watching decreasing and increasing emotional components shift over time to hope to have some certainty at the 3 to 7 day level.

    going to try it out with some data target dates to see if it works. will start to track towards the solstice as a known date and will see how it shifts and see how it trends and see how forecasts pan out to this.

    he says that he has two things that have worked with this potention-ometer. so is hopeful for some other things to work.

    by the summer the suppression of metals will be gone. not sure how long it will take to see it take effect but it will be in summer."
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    don't we know this lolllllllll

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    Quote Posted by Limor (here)
    Thanks Rocky, I think that posting Miko Peled's video is very fitting here and suitable for this conversation, he speakes about Zionism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and touches all the points that we all identify as defective, immoral, and in stark contrast to human rights. Of course, he does so in the frame of the allowable and non-risky range of the political- human rights arena and not exposing the one dominating force that rules our world.

    In a way, I find that there is a parallelism between Miko Peled and Noam Chomsky, They both deal with the 'nitty gritty' of political life, U.S.A, Israel, Palestinians relations, the imbalance of power, injustice, the distorted vision of our leaders and the diseases of the government, an incredible and courageous and wise analysis which does not threaten the cabal's empire, and so the carousel continues to move around and the door of the cage is about to be closed. Such is also the keeping up with what happens in Russia, Ukraine and the U.S as is reflected in the public discourse, It's all mostly moving around the central nucleus of the inside game perspective and without an understanding of the main cause of the problem and the need to disconnect from it, sticking a nail in the wheels of the system and stopping it from moving. In this sense, it was good to hear Chomsky points to the problem this last week, after all, without waking up to the real on-goings of this reality and calling a spade a spade, there is no way to reach a solution.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/america...ration/5339835

    Both sides, the three or four of them are checkers in the same game, the more rational directive of our thoughts need to be on how is it possible for us to disembark from them.

    --------------------

    For those who still like to dwell in analysis, here is a good character judgment of Putin by Fritz Springmeier who has a good eye for these guys

    http://plazilla.com/page/4295131337/...tz-springmeier

    Very Best,

    Limor


    Israel just arrested the Christian leader who told his followers not to join the Jewish army of oppression, torture and death...

    Barbara Boxer...

    Hitler kicked Jews from their homes and gave them to Germans, gathered them together and shipped them out of the country with no right of return...

    what is the difference between Hitler's actions and what Israel is doing to Palestinians?

    it is time to stand up to AIPAC and let them know they are about to lose military funding for the middle east war machine...
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    Military Purge Continues As Another General Is Ousted From Pentagon

    Quote The head of the Defense Intelligence Agency is being pushed out of the job after a series of clashes over his leadership at an agency that is under pressure to shift focus following more than a decade of war, current and former U.S. officials said.
    Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn is expected to announce Wednesday that he is leaving his job as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency more than a year before he was scheduled to depart, according to officials who said that Flynn faced mounting pressure from Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. and others in recent

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    I guess we know who directed Ukraine's propaganda program...


    "One former official told The Washington Post that Flynn attempted to push DIA analyses and operators into the field and other high-intensity operations. This ran counter to how the DIA saw itself, leading many to believe that Flynn's vision for the agency was disruptive.

    Flynn's critics also maintained that his management style was chaotic and that his aggressive push for changes often did not include an adequate follow-through..."
    link

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    this is too important with what is going on in the World of War without peace and exposing those behind it... AIPAC is on my wall of shame...

    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    I remember the news medias making this guy out to be a real scumbag. And, fool that I was, I believed the medias. But just listen to him and see what he says after almost 8 years in prison.... He still believes what he did was right.

    Whose damn country is America anyway? Those treacherous politicians in DC need to be reminded that America is who they're SUPPOSED to be serving not Israel.



    And please remind me WHY every man, woman and child in Israel get money from us? That's our money that would best be used for Americans in this critical time in our nation.

    Things like this irks me to no end!
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    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    I posted author info just to quietly point that out, but thanks for putting it into words of understanding...

    no one wins in war, but we need to watch the manipulation from all sides...


    expect a lot of you can't say Putin without poo...
    What annoys me about this issue at the moment is how the mainstream media are playing it as if there already is a war going on between the West and Russia. I hold the mainstream media just as accountable for war mongering as I do Obama, the EU and all of their cronies.
    University of Ohio study:

    85% of all American Major media is in the hands of, literally controlled by (they all share the same stories)... 6-7 people, 5 of which (and a 6th suspected) are ethically Jewish.

    (I am of Jewish extraction, enough so to get to Israel as a 'Jew', so none of the anti-semitic crap can stick on me. The above is just a fact, nothing more.)

    Those laws regulations and procedures were on the books to PREVENT this now existing situation from occurring, so that no small group could ever end up in a position to be controlling public opinion via total media control.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Bush Jr, in 2000, IIRC, tore apart the federal offices that would prevent such media consolidation from happening. In this case, infiltration and plants of nasty people put into the FTC, in order to drive out the long term civil servants who cared for America and it's freedoms and laws. Those departments heads he appointed brought in even more nasty people (while firing and driving out the real civil servants), people who are still there, still controlling those federal offices, and infecting them. Basically, nasty fascist neocon plants, who've spent the last 14 years burning down the public approx 71 federal departments of the USA federal government. And that's the least of it.

    I even got corroboration from a deputy director of one of the biggest federal departments, that this is exactly what was done, in order to break the back of America. Not that the democratic party (hah!) was/is any better.

    You are looking at a systematic plan that was enacted and held to, all the way down the line. A unilateral plan via all political (and other) avenues.

    The question, is what are they doing now? As..what you are seeing now, is just a step, a stage, a marker, on an enforced and directed path and plan.
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    and Anonymous stepped forward...

    we are at the world's free media, we can share everything while we still have the right and ability...

    the group behind Anon, is willing to stand against the media mogels, shredding their security to expose secrets...

    Asia said no to floating the Fed Reserve...

    earthquake weapons turned on the ring of fire, the whole world was shaking...

    weather weapons turned on the heartland, 100+ tornadoes, largest outbreak in a decade...

    following the storms, 2 trains derailed, one with oil, the other with coal and southern California's airport computer system crashed shutting down air transportation. all in 24 hours...



    the sun and quakes are quiet... the warnings sent...

    as for the BRICS, China currency has dropped 2% against USD in a few weeks...

    what is the next move and from whom?... I hear their whispers...

    a United Palestine must "NEVER" happen

    as in: time for a Hamas flight 370 air attack on Tel Aviv...

    something big is up right now...

    if I worked in a sky rise in Tel Aviv and walked in wondering why no one told me it was a Jewish Holiday...

    I'd turn around and go home...
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    I even got corroboration from a deputy director of one of the biggest federal departments, that this is exactly what was done, in order to break the back of America. Not that the democratic party (hah!) was/is any better.

    You are looking at a systematic plan that was enacted and held to, all the way down the line. A unilateral plan via all political (and other) avenues.
    Nor did it begin with Bush Junior.

    During Bush Junior's term, a lawyer for (at that time) the U.S. Department of Justice, Jesselyn Radack, co-authored the paper "PIERCING THE “HISTORICAL MISTS”…AND LOOKING TOWARD THE FUTURE" which described in the sort of detail only available to people who were there at the time, the destruction of the U.S. Department of Justice, during the Clinton administration (1993-2001), using similar techniques, including the suspicious deaths of key people who were getting in the way.

    Jesselyn Radack has since left the U.S. government, and is now with the Government Accountability Project (whistleblower.org), where she has served as attorney for various whistle blowers, including Thomas Drake and Edward Snowden.

    See my original post on Avalon, describing her "Piercing the "Historical Mists"" paper, with a link to the pre-publication, pre-censored version of that paper, at Millions Against Monsanto -- Post #6.

    See the more recent record of Radack's work by searching this Avalon forum for the word "Radack".

    The destruction of the U.S. government (its subordination to some other authority than the informed will of the American people) is a project that has been on going for a long time. A key early step was obviously the passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, one dark and stormy night (actually, I don't know the weather, but surely it could have been none other.)

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    Two important background pieces on the current events in the Ukraine have come to my attention.

    ===

    The first, with a tip-of-the-hat to ZeroHedge, is from WikiSpooks.com. It is a lecture by Andrei Fursov (Director of Russian Studies, Moscow University. Member of the International Academy of Sciences) dated 2014/04/14, that provides a "wide ranging analysis of the 2013-2014 situation in Ukraine, its antecedents and consequences from the perspective of a senior Russian academic".

    You can find the lecture, including video of him speaking in Russian, and an English transcript, at Battleground Ukraine (WikiSpooks).

    WikiSpooks describes this lecture:
    This is an impressive, comprehensive analysis of the February 2014 Ukraine coup from the perspective of a senior Russian academic. It details the interests and affiliations of the main Ukrainian domestic players - oligarchical clans many of whose leaders have dual nationality - with some shocking and little known detail. It exposes the glaring hypocrisies and double standards of the western sponsors of the coup and their Russian/Ukrainian '5th Column traitors'. It sees the coup and Russia's successful incorporation of Crimea as major game-changing events in the on-going, US-lead post-WWII machinations of the West to subdue Russia to its own agenda and outlines how Russia should now respond.

    All-in-all a must-read for westerners needing to understand what is really happening in both the Ukraine and the wider Anglo-US-NATO globalisation drive which it brings into sharp focus
    ===

    The second is a documentary video of the war of 08-08-08, when Georgia invaded Ossetia, followed by Russia's defense of Ossetia in the following days. Contrary to the blame placed on Ossetia and Russia for this brief war (see for example the Georgian–Ossetian conflict (Wikipedia)), this documentary provides strong evidence that it was the Georgian government, working with the substantial support of NATO and turn-coat Ossetian leaders, who intended to slaughter the Ossetian people and claim the land for Georgia.

    Here is the documentary:
    WAR 08.08.08. The Art of Betrayal
    There are many similarities between the War of 08.08.08, with Georgia and Ossetia, and the current tensions in the Ukraine.

    Once again, NATO, working in part through various traitors, cut-outs, rabble rousers, controlled international groups, and violent thugs, is seeking bloodshed, turmoil and division along Russia's south-western border.
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    During Bush Junior's term, a lawyer for (at that time) the U.S. Department of Justice, Jesselyn Radack, co-authored ...
    Jesselyn Radack has been a thorn in the side of the U.S. Dept. of Justice (DoJ) since at least the months following 9/11. In December of 2001, when she was employed at DoJ, she objected to their interrogation of 'American Talib' John Walker Lindh without a lawyer being present. Jesselyn Radack tells her story of these events in A Whistle-Blower's Inside View of the Homeland Security Nominee.

    Also, she has provided a publicly available version of her report that I mentioned above, on the systemic destruction of DoJ investigations during the Clinton administration. You can find it at the New York University Journal of Law & Liberty: THEFISA WALL AND FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS (pdf).
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    Major battle going on in Ukraine...

    "pro-#Kremlin coordinators in #Sloviansk #Ukraine are telling their ppl to call Russian president's hotline (8-495-625-35-81) to ask for help" ever wanted to say hi to Putin? it might be his cell... text him...

    "Tymchuk: pro-#Kremlin forces in #Sloviansk #Ukraine are now concentrated in the southeast corner of the city"

    "Tymchuk: #Ukraine's forces have captured most of #Sloviansk. All separatist checkpoints have been cleared."

    "We're getting more information that #Sloviansk #Ukraine is being stormed and that heavy armor is being deployed in addition to air power"

    "#Sloviansk 20 helicopters are attacking the city, 3 choppers are down ,its all in for #War


    after a large explosion in the Capitol of Nigeria, today...

    "The U.S. has offered to help Nigeria in hunt for 200 girls abducted by Islamist militants: http://reut.rs/1rKexuE pic.twitter.com/B0iDNM2k6Y"

    US Troops?
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    ..
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    If this have been posted before,
    then it needs to be again, and fit
    well on this volumous thread :

    Thanks to Uncle Zook on United People (ha ha) forum.
    A video recording of a speach made by a just voice of
    a decent human being with empathy and conscience,
    Benjamin Freedman exposes the Zionist conspiracy :


    ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=hXBcyX97jGM )

    A Jewish Defector Warns America.
    Benjamin Freedman Speaks on Zionism !

    This belong in this thread somehow.
    Please listen ( for about 45 minutes )

    Be well, all -

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