Kerry Cassidy, June 2011: WINGMAKERS: James Releases Interview #5

[Camilo]

James has released The Fifth Neruda Interview :

http://t.co/fK5WKXV2f6

This is a fascinating investigation into our history and what is called The Sovereign Integral process. He is revealing a history here of the human race involving the Anunnaki and our Atlantean roots.

Exceprt:

“The other thing that was happening was that as the earth continued to become more of a three-dimensional solid, so did the human 1.0s and their functionality implants. This growing densification also made it easier to control and suppress the Atlantean power source inside the human uniforms. It was like a compression was taking place in and on this earth plane, and it was deepening the gravity of focus on earth plane survival.”

Another Excerpt:

Serpents as a race of beings. They simply were another race of beings based on reptilian DNA, but distinct from the Anunnaki. You could say they were related. They were known as life carriers. They seeded planets. They built food chains. You could say they were the grocers of the planet.”

Highly Recommended.

[Sidney]

Posted by Camilo (here)
James has released The Fifth Neruda Interview :

GO HERE TO VIEW OR DOWNLOAD PDF

This is a fascinating investigation into our history and what is called The Sovereign Integral process. He is revealing a history here of the human race involving the Anunnaki and our Atlantean roots.

Exceprt:

“The other thing that was happening was that as the earth continued to become more of a three-dimensional solid, so did the human 1.0s and their functionality implants. This growing densification also made it easier to control and suppress the Atlantean power source inside the human uniforms. It was like a compression was taking place in and on this earth plane, and it was deepening the gravity of focus on earth plane survival.”

Another Excerpt:

Serpents as a race of beings. They simply were another race of beings based on reptilian DNA, but distinct from the Anunnaki. You could say they were related. They were known as life carriers. They seeded planets. They built food chains. You could say they were the grocers of the planet.”

Highly Recommended.

Hi Camilo, do you have a link? never mind, I see it now.

[Chip]

This mythological story created by using SBL (sensory bi-location), a form of remote viewing. Should begin with the same warning as other channeled material.
Albeit from a Kerry Cassidy blog, this post belongs under channeled material.
I fear losing those that can truly contribute to PA before they read something that they weren't given a fair warning of in advance.

[onawah]

I agree with Chipsam, not to say that I don't I still find the "interview" to be thought-provoking.
The channeled info subforum has a purpose which should be put to use more often, IMHO.

[Antagenet]

This is one of the favorite things I have read here, or anywhere.
Thanks for posting.

excerpt that gives you the flavor...


Sarah:
“I understand, but the whole concept of infinite beings
—
that’s been around a long
time. Soul has been around a long time as a concept. How is this any different?”
Dr. Neruda:
“
Yes, it’s been around a long time, but it’s been bottled up into three paths: one,
reincarnation and karma; two, be good and obedient and join the ranks of heaven; and three,
ascend to a higher plane of existence and eventually become a teacher within the
Hierarchy
.
The fourth path, though not about soul, is that we are simply human flesh and blood and we
have no soul.
“A person’s soul is construed from one of these paths, assuming you believe you are a soul.
Each of these paths, as I have already said, is
within the
Hologram of Deception
. They do not
lead outside
—
past the wall, and they certainly do not make the wall less stable.
“To be self
-
realized as an infinite being within a human body on earth, decoupled from the
controlling
Human 2.0
interface, is
the fifth way. We’ve been living in a game show that has
four doors where an announcer keeps repeating the instruction
: ‘choose one of the four
doors,’
while completely ignoring that there is a fifth door"

[Journeyon]

Thank you Camilo for bringing attention to this interview. It is quite a long read but if open it pulls you along.

Here are a few nuggets from this interview I choose to share:

"How can one possibly defeat such an antagonist? They have the money, they have the politicians in their pockets, they have the defense and protection, they have the powerful relationships everywhere in the world and they have the most powerful technology in terms of surveillance and weapons. Their innermost circle is impenetrable.
“We can be wide awake and aware of what’s happening, but awareness doesn’t suddenly—in itself—change the chessboard. They taunt us to protest. Wave your signs, publish your websites, fling your fists to the sky, investigate all you want, it won’t change a thing. They will tell us to our faces that their power is inexhaustible. This is how they think.
“They want us to feel this futility and have this overriding sense that the endgame is unavoidable. They want us to believe that we are powerless. Remember, they are securing the world and its populations for the return of Anu. That is their program, and while only the capstone of the elite understands this plan, it is enough, because the downstream operatives are loyal, programmed entities.
“The WingMakers have written that it isn’t the protests that will change this enemy. If we shout at them and practice resistance with our guns in the street, they will only squash us. In order to bring their objective to a halt, we need to push down the wall, and we can do this by being practitioners of the Sovereign Integral process or anything similar.
“If human beings become self-aware, de-programmed entities, who understand specifically how we have been enslaved and for what reason, we can collectively push down the wall that separates us from our true selves. This creates a chain reaction that affects everyone, including the capstone of the elite. The wall falls for them, too.
“It’s using the consciousness of the life essence to reveal the human 2.0 consciousness as an invented reality. It’s weaning from the hologram of deception to the reality that all life exists infinitely as equals in oneness.”

“You mention a revolution, according to the WingMakers it would be a waste of life. They are not going to relinquish what they have worked so hard and long to produce. This will only change when the wall is pushed down. The wall is the human 2.0 consciousness framework that is programmed within every human being. The wall needs to be pushed down, and the way this occurs is not through protest, storming the gates, or shaking our collective fists in their face. It must be done through individual self-realization, and this, because of our programming, requires us to follow a process that enables us to become self-realized of our life essence.
“If we remain in separation, we can’t solve the problem of separation. If we remain in deception, we can’t reveal anything of our true nature. So we need to see all as one and equal in this hologram of deception, and that includes the capstone of the elite, as much as the poor and hungry.”

“If you feel that the best way to serve truth is to protest, resist, build awareness about what is happening in the world, then do that, but I would recommend doing it from a non-polarity perspective. You can’t fight separation with more separation, it will only polarize. It’s important to feel that you are standing up, not in fear or some other programmed emotion, but that you are aligned to your life essence and in expression of that source within you, even when you protest.

May we have the wisdom to know the inner journey holds the key.
In Peace and Unity,
Journeyon

[onawah]

Here is the link to the pdf for the whole 5th interview:
http://thoughtcomputing.org/wp-conte....%20Neruda.pdf
If you have not read the first 4 interviews, here is the link to the pdf containing all 5:
http://thoughtcomputing.org/wp-conte...ws%20(1-5).pdf

[onawah]

I don't understand at all how the Earth could be all water--but putting that aside, there are other good pieces for the puzzle in the 5th interview.
I found it helpful for better conceptualizing as to how one might bypass the "false light" at death (and the whole invented hologram), and instead go back to Source as Simon Parkes has recommended we do.
(Though he has admitted in his last interview, that even he expects to reincarnate again next time around in the usual way. Hopefully, as the interview suggests, that will no longer be the case before long--perhaps by around the end of this century, if all goes well...)
I haven't finished reading the whole interview yet myself and there may be other indigestible bits, but I've accepted that one has to separate the wheat from the chaff as we put the whole picture back together again.

[turiya]

From the 5th interview:

Sarah: “How do you know this history?”

Dr. Neruda: “There are records of this on the disc that was taken from the twenty-third chamber at the Ancient Arrow site. But some of this we knew from other documents we’ve retrieved from the Sumerian record that have not been widely distributed. We’ve also had discussions with the Corteum that bear this out.”

Sarah: “So earth started out as a water planet and it wasn’t physical?”

Dr. Neruda: “Correct. This was when the Atlanteans lived within the planet. They were the race of beings that inhabited earth at this time of its formation. The Anunnaki came to them and negotiated an agreement to allow the Anunnaki to mine a substance near the core of the planet that would be—in its essence—what today we would call gold.”

I am sorry. But as soon as James Neruda brings up Earth's history, and some of it retrieved from the Sumerian record & then brings in the Anunnaki needing gold - that was enough for me. It spelled big time "Bollox" in my book.

No need to go further.

cheers - turiya

[Carmody]

Dimensionally needing gold, that is a new angle for me. Never thought of it that way.

After all, one 'atom' is merely a nexus point that is like a veil or skein, a passage of energies from one dimensional state to another. A schism point of dimensions. We see these vibrations fractally, holographically. Through their micro differentials, we realize 3d space/time. the trick is to not confuse the 'consciousness dream', as being the reality, rather it is we who make it real. We are the pouring of consciousness into this space. Our beingness reflects it back, and makes it real. Our 'reaction' makes it real. our 'reflection' makes it real. There is no real, it is US.

And, believe it or not, I have never read the wingmakers texts before. I've only read parts 4 and 5 as of yesterday. I came to understand this on my own, and agree, for the larger part... in the functional basis of reality as they have proposed it, so far (in my reading of their texts).

Back to the gold issue.

When it comes to MAKING gold from 'materiel', in this 3d realm, gold can be MADE, it does not need to be mined.

One thing is that there may be some subtle differences in MINED gold vs MANUFACTURED gold. The vibration of one vs the other....may be very slightly different. They act very slightly differently, reaction wise, from all the records I have read.

[Ahnung-quay]

Wondering if the difference between manufactured and mined gold is the ionic form; Au 3+/Au+?

[onawah]

That question of the gold also brings to mind something else which still puzzles me, which is how could the Annunaki, beings who didn't have physical, 3rd dimension, interbreed with 3D human beings?
The Wingmakers interview:
http://thoughtcomputing.org/wp-conte....%20Neruda.pdf
...goes into this on pages 62 & 63, but not in great detail.
And how does monoatomic gold figure into the equation?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Carmody (here)
When it comes to MAKING gold from 'materiel', in this 3d realm, gold can be MADE, it does not need to be mined.

But, can it only be manufactured "economically" if free energy (overunity energy production) is used, in substantial quantities. There is a big difference, in my view, between making a few grams of something at considerable effort, and making tons of it in a practical industrial process.

If abundant free energy is required to produce gold on an industrial scale, then only when the bastards publicly acknowledge such free energy can they publicly admit to essentially unlimited sources of gold (as well as other precious metals, and potable water.)

So long as international (between the nations of this planet) conflict is rampant, I can understand the argument that free energy and what it can produce needs to be controlled ... in order that we don't blow up our planet fighting some war. It leads to a nasty conundrum ... if human conflict and total war is in the nature of our beast, then only when a one world government has total control can free energy then be openly and safely employed, by which time, nothing of consequence will be open.

More optimistically, it might be that human conflict on a grand scale is not in the nature of the ordinary human, but rather in the nature of our Satanic Overlords, and by some wonder these Overlords will lose their grip on human destiny. Perhaps this wonder is within our human grasp, if enough of us have that intention.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Paul (here)
A So long as international (between the nations of this planet) conflict is rampant, I can understand the argument that free energy and what it can produce needs to be controlled ... in order that we don't blow up our planet fighting some war. It leads to a nasty conundrum ... if human conflict and total war is in the nature of our beast, then only when a one world government has total control can free energy then be openly and safely employed, by which time, nothing of consequence will be open.

B More optimistically, it might be that human conflict on a grand scale is not in the nature of the ordinary human, but rather in the nature of our Satanic Overlords, and by some wonder these Overlords will lose their grip on human destiny. Perhaps this wonder is within our human grasp, if enough of us have that intention.

I'm of the mind that insanity is not inherent in human nature, but is a learned response conditioned by our overlords, and will dissipate once we become conscious of the game and the paradigm of scarcity, divisiveness and control is no longer a motivation. So, I vote plan B. I've had enough of the war mongering, that's for damn sure.

[Carmody]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
When it comes to MAKING gold from 'materiel', in this 3d realm, gold can be MADE, it does not need to be mined.

But, can it only be manufactured "economically" if free energy (overunity energy production) is used, in substantial quantities. There is a big difference, in my view, between making a few grams of something at considerable effort, and making tons of it in a practical industrial process.

If abundant free energy is required to produce gold on an industrial scale, then only when the bastards publicly acknowledge such free energy can they publicly admit to essentially unlimited sources of gold (as well as other precious metals, and potable water.)

So long as international (between the nations of this planet) conflict is rampant, I can understand the argument that free energy and what it can produce needs to be controlled ... in order that we don't blow up our planet fighting some war. It leads to a nasty conundrum ... if human conflict and total war is in the nature of our beast, then only when a one world government has total control can free energy then be openly and safely employed, by which time, nothing of consequence will be open.

More optimistically, it might be that human conflict on a grand scale is not in the nature of the ordinary human, but rather in the nature of our Satanic Overlords, and by some wonder these Overlords will lose their grip on human destiny. Perhaps this wonder is within our human grasp, if enough of us have that intention.

there was a recent announcement that someone has gone forward and made hydrogen gas via a multi-front attack, which is the way I would do it. I even communicated to some HHO people on this exact subject, about doing things this way. About 2 years back, maybe more.

To use not just electrolysis, but resonance, chemical pressure or predisposition, light, and physical pressure waves, and so on.

Basically, to add a bunch of techniques together, in order to create the perfect molecular resonance 'storm' that it takes to efficiently separate hydrogen out of water.

• Electrolysis
• Oxidation
• Catalysis
• Ionization
• Infrasound
• Sound
• Ultrasound
• HyperSound
• Hydrodynamic Cavitation
• Electromagnetic Field
• Shock Wave
• LENR

No one ever said you have to chose just one method, many can be overlaid on top of one another.

http://pesn.com/2014/04/29/9602478_S...ng-all-energy/


The same techniques can be applied to the creation of gold, or any other atomic structure, for that matter (pun intended). Basically, to predispose the situation in multiple ways....and then tickle it from multiple directions.


Now that this sort of cat is out of the bag, I'll talk about it. I sat on the data for a good 15-20 years. I've been saying for a while now, that all the pieces are out in the open and on the table, you just have to know what you are looking at, knowing where to look.

When one uses the classical calculations based on classical theories, they end up with a stupid number, sterling calculated 577x over-unity. Which is not true, everyone involved gets that point. It was simply a case of going around the classical THEORY. new science, new short-cut. Old theory holds true for old methods, new methods leaves old theory intact, but utilizes obvious short cuts. Obvious in retrospect, that is. IF.. one looks at this closely, they see some of the methods that Dr. Joe Champion utilized to get to the manufacturing of Gold.

I'm posting again in this thread on the subject of astrology. Where geometric alignments in planetary positions show forms of similarity identification and compatibility in people. In it's own way, this geometric system may support what is being said in this (wingmaker) data. ie, the creation of time, discrete structure, atoms/molecules, ALSO follows this exact sort of rule, of geometric blending and connectivity. Many other ideas and things are also supported, which is not unexpected.

The situation really IS that simple, but retains some complexities to get past. Ie, One atom (Erbium), 200 resonances. http://phys.org/news/2014-04-ground-...ultracold.html

[Carmody]

To let the dominoes fall, down the same road lies teleportation, temporal egress, dimensional portals, dimensional stressing, super materials, meta-materials, and so on. (Hutchison effect, for one, and many more like it). Basically the full breakdown of space-time, matter, etc.

This is squarely in the danger zone. Do not play games in this area.

Or, if James and the wingmakers are correct, some folks might consider some form of running to it. I'll leave that for other folks to figure out on their own.

For example, I was thinking of making a space-age alloy. One that is near impossible, or impossible to 'modern science' (hah....). I have a problem though. I'm not sure it's the best idea to try to make it. Experimenting is not an option, if it is bad idea to try and make it. Which means I'll simply have to make some other space age thingy to pay the bills and put food on the table.

With respect to how humanity as it is now, unfolding further in this given direction...well..this is the next quadrillion dollar playground area. Where we go from type zero to a type 1 to type 2 civilization, almost overnight. Very bumpy road, it is. If we can make it. If that at all matters, that is. The problem with the type 1 and type 2 civilization thingie/measurement stick, is that it is a projection into something we don't know.

I'm saying it is a problem ... as after a certain point, there is no point in being physical. Skipping over into a type 1 to type 2 civilization, the unveiling of the reality of the universe makes all of that irrelevant.

The pie in the sky projection of the ignorant mind of today...... has nearly ZERO bearing on what we'd potentially become.

To be stepping back at this point means we're engaging in what Joseph Farrell is speaking of, when he speaks on the Babylon/babel situation, as he describes it.

Whatever the gauntlet is, we're definitely in it now.

To return to the subject of this..that time-space is the anomaly, the unwarranted interference pattern, a degradation of the very high peak energies which are the norm.

So, we may not be releasing energy at all, we may merely be instituting a simple correction back to a blocked and locked out norm/state.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The same techniques can be applied to the creation of gold

Do you suspect that gold is something that the most powerful entities influencing humanity actually covet themselves, or is it more like our "Gods", something they find useful to get us to worship?

[onawah]

Can manufactured gold be made into monoatomic gold?

Posted by Carmody (here)

One thing is that there may be some subtle differences in MINED gold vs MANUFACTURED gold. The vibration of one vs the other....may be very slightly different. They act very slightly differently, reaction wise, from all the records I have read.

[Carmody]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
The same techniques can be applied to the creation of gold

Do you suspect that gold is something that the most powerful entities influencing humanity actually covet themselves, or is it more like our "Gods", something they find useful to get us to worship?

Not sure, no insight inside that part of the system. We get back to this issue of the gold vibrational frequency as a quantum element, meaning monatomic. One thing that is said in some areas of monatomic discussion, is that the consumption of the stone can lead to one's being stuck in a specific dimensional state. To not be able to return to source, or something similar to that.

A real world problem that can be defeated with such thinking as the combination of these techniques to increase efficiency (in hydrogen production), is the very real potential to increase quality of desalination of water. To move to new techniques of desalination, techniques of higher efficiency, lower costs, thus less starving people, less food shortages, and so on.

The problem is that the adoption of this technology will be strongly resisted, and in the meantime, getting it into the system should take the routes of least resistance.

If it is mentioned, someone will possibly begin the investigation and use some aspects to increase desalination efficiency. Avoid the battle and get it's kin into the system soonest. Something like ultrasonic assisted reverse osmosis.

[Olam]

I went thru the whole wingmaker info a few years ago. I remember at the time being baffled ,trying to understand it all and see how it all could be real.
Then a few years after that I came across info that it was fiction and the work of arts were created to support the fiction. I have to say I was quite dissapointed as I was looking for truths and realized I had spent so much time on something made up.
Then there was the great work of Graham Hancock which is great research stuff and mostly real info from a great researcher, but then he decided that it was easier to write fiction expressing truths if I can put it that way. I then tried that and for me it was less satisfactory than his technical stuff. I read Supernatural and that was so great, right before embarking on my ayahuasca journey.
SO
I can now better understand how the wingmaker material was created, probably on a lot of truth as the basis of the work.
Still I find it frustrating to not be reading actual research and real discoveries.
I have not read up on this new wingmaker stuff, I don't have time, unless someone can mention that the focus is now more on research than fiction.

Also I was also dissapointed to learn that the Alien interview material with that nurse was also fiction, I forget where I read that, but I remember doing the research and came to a conclusion that it was also fiction. That was really too bad as it was facinating.
Especially that part about bringing Kishnamurti to meet the alien to see if he could figure something out.
I checked and yes Krishnamurti was in california at the time and so it was possible, even if he has never mentioned this anywhere, never at all.

I don't have time for fiction work anymore!
I want to read the work of researchers and doers, not writers when searching for the truth in all these subjects...