What is your view on the Roswell "aliens"?

[Alien Ramone]

Do you think the Roswell "aliens" were Greys from Zeta Reticuli as Sanni Ceto has said, humans from Earth 24,000 years in the future as Dan Burisch has said, or something else?

Burisch had said that they were smaller than present day humans with large bald heads and larger eyes that were blue, but with all the features of present day humans such as five fingers, etc.

I've have run across both the description of the Roswell "aliens" as Greys and small humans, and can't really decide which version I think is most likely based on the information that is out there.

Also I have heard that there were supposedly other UFO crashes around the same time period with "aliens" aboard and realize that could be a factor also in which "aliens" people may have seen at bases.

[truth4me]

My question is where is the craft now?

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by truth4me (here)
My question is where is the craft now?

My view is that the craft is most likely at an underground base somewhere in the United States. I haven't read about any leaks as to the current location since the original stories of it being in Hangar 18 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.

My approach to this is about trying to discern what is really going on with everything, but there is a lot of conflicting information out there. The origin of the Greys is just one piece of the puzzle and I'm wondering what take other people have about it that might help me get more perspectives of what may be going on.

[Lifebringer]

I think the wrong guys got a hold of "em on the ssg, and used them as much as they could for technology, and then put us where we are today.

[Robin]

I have heard so many plausible explanations that I don't know what is the real truth.

I have heard:

1.) They were Zeta Reticuli greys who were coming to Earth to study humans simply out of curiosity. The atomic bombs that went off during WWII created a stir in the universe and the Zetas simply wanted to check in on the human experiment.

2.) As Dan Burisch states, the crash was by future humans from many thousands of years into the future. They were coming back to prevent one thing from happening that led to their timeline going down a destructive path. They made a poor judgment and were shot down by radar and forced to make a deal with the U.S. government.

3.)The Zeta Reticuli greys purposely flew their craft in a specific spot, knowing very well they would be shot down by radar. Their reasoning for doing so was to plant advanced technology so the U.S. could have a upper edge in world affairs. By doing so, they did not violate universal law, and therefore, were not reprimanded by other ET races monitoring human affairs.

4.) Some combination of the above?

Personally, I think all of these are possibilities. Dan Burisch's story is convincing, but the fact is that he is a government slave. It might make sense that the government allowed him to reveal information to ease the pressure off themselves in doing os with their agenda and/or working off their Karma. Or perhaps they knew that not many people would believe him anyway.

What is more likely is that Dan Burish's story is mixed with half-truths, as so many high level testimonials are. The PTB are ruthless when it comes to suppressing the Truth, and they will do whatever they can to put in disinformation purposely with some elements of Truth to confuse everybody to the point where they don't know what to believe anymore. It happens all the time...

It could also be that Sanni Ceto has suffered from programming, causing her to believe that the crash was nothing more than a failed scientific expedition.

We live in a world where the people controlling this world are psychopathic, but cunning, people who are ultimately controlled by an ET race that are experts at manipulation and deceit. They will stop at nothing to manipulate and control world affairs and they do not have an ounce of sympathy or empathy.

They will purposely lie and twist the Truth to serve their agenda, and the true history of this planet is not filled with any humility on the side of the PTB. They have agents everywhere to fabricate stories to confuse things more.

To me, again, what makes sense the most is that the greys were ordered to fly into a high radar zone so their craft would crash, giving technology to the U.S. government without violating universal law.

[Snowflower]

I have no idea.

[Matt P]

Not to dismiss this question at all but I think what exactly they were is mostly irrelevant. There is enough other evidence from many other sources that the bigger picture is more important than a few small details. Roswell is just one tiny piece of a much bigger pie and was not the first alien crash or contact by a long shot. Watch the recent interview of Kerry Cassidy by Sean Stone and this will give you a great big picture look at what is going on and I think you will see Roswell with a new perspective. This interview is loaded with info and is only about 45 min. long.
You can go to Project Camelot (it's on the home page) or find it on Youtube or there was a recent thread posted here on Project Avalon with it.

Matt

[Robin]

Posted by mpennery (here)
Not to dismiss this question at all but I think what exactly they were is mostly irrelevant. There is enough other evidence from many other sources that the bigger picture is more important than a few small details. Roswell is just one tiny piece of a much bigger pie and was not the first alien crash or contact by a long shot. Watch the recent interview of Kerry Cassidy by Sean Stone and this will give you a great big picture look at what is going on and I think you will see Roswell with a new perspective. This interview is loaded with info and is only about 45 min. long.
You can go to Project Camelot (it's on the home page) or find it on Youtube or there was a recent thread posted here on Project Avalon with it.

Matt

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sCEuk-2pkbk

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Don't forget that this could have been some sort of Nazi craft/project, or staged in order to provide the USA with high-Nazi-tech under the pretense of an accident.

Yes, it could have been people from another world, but knowing our planet, chances are, it's something the SS built.

The Black Sun and The Nazi Bell

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=APokxlsenfM

The term Black Sun (German Schwarze Sonne), also referred to as the Sonnenrad (the German for "Sun Wheel"), is a symbol of esoteric and occult significance. Its design is based on a sun wheel mosaic incorporated into a floor of Wewelsburg Castle during the Nazi era.

Despite its contemporary use, the Black Sun had not been identified with the ornament in Wewelsburg before 1991, although it had been discussed as an esoteric concept in neo-Nazi circles since the 1950s.[1]

The term Black Sun may originate with the mystical "Central Sun" in Helena Blavatsky's Theosophy. This invisible or burnt out Sun (Karl Maria Wiligut's Santur in Nazi mysticism) symbolizes an opposing force or pole.[citation needed] Emil Rüdiger, of Rudolf John Gorslebens Edda-Gesellschaft (Edda Society), claimed that a fight between the new and the old Suns was decided 330,000 years ago (Karl Maria Wiligut dates this 280,000 years ago), and that Santur had been the source of power of the Hyperboreans.[citation needed]

The Wewelsburg symbol can be deconstructed into three swastikas; a "rising", a "zenith" & a "setting" one, the design is popular among German Neo-Nazis as a replacement for the outlawed singular swastika symbol. Another interpretation is that the symbol incorporates twelve reversed "Sig runes" of the Armanen runes.

Allegedly, the design was drawn for Heinrich Himmler from an "old Aryan emblem",[29] and was meant to mimic the Round table of Arthurian legend with each spoke of the sun wheel representing one "knight" or Officer of the "inner" SS. The symbol of the Black Sun is purported to unite the three most important symbols of Nazi ideology - the sun wheel, the swastika and the stylized victory rune." and that it is symbolic in its form representing "the twelve SS Knights of The Order of the Death's Head and their three retainers".[30]

Erich Halik was the first to link the esoteric SS with the Black Sun roundel insignia carried by German aircraft in the polar region at the close of World War II.[5][31]

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - Nikola Tesla

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0CYZ2s_cQ

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by mpennery (here)
Not to dismiss this question at all but I think what exactly they were is mostly irrelevant. There is enough other evidence from many other sources that the bigger picture is more important than a few small details. Roswell is just one tiny piece of a much bigger pie and was not the first alien crash or contact by a long shot. Watch the recent interview of Kerry Cassidy by Sean Stone and this will give you a great big picture look at what is going on and I think you will see Roswell with a new perspective. This interview is loaded with info and is only about 45 min. long.
You can go to Project Camelot (it's on the home page) or find it on Youtube or there was a recent thread posted here on Project Avalon with it.

Matt

SamwiseTheBrave has just posted that interview that you mentioned on this thread and I am listening to it as I type this. I have been following the Camelot and Avalon information for a long time and researched a lot of information related to it online so I am aware of a lot of the big picture with the Military Industrial Complex including the big banks, big pharma, big oil, mainstream media, and defense industry being owned by powerful families that are incrementally putting the citizens of the world under control and planning to reduce the world population to around 500 million people, because of the influence from off world and interdimensional beings.

It still seems important to me that we know what our actual history is and what each off world and interdimensional group's agenda is; Not just because decisions are best made in the context of what is actually going on and what each group is actually about, but because more people can be awakened once there is a cohesive complete explanation of what is happening.

The difference in stories between Sanni Ceto and Dan Burisch related to Roswell goes way beyond what actually happened there to the origin of the Greys and is just one example of so many different situations. "Sam's" post about some plausible explanations related to Roswell and the Greys gives a good indication of how much effort is put into keeping us in the dark. I am sort of fishing for ideas that will help me come up with which ideas make the most sense to me on this particular issue, but there are a whole number of other issues that are just as obscured such as which group is the one Charles (Atticus) referred to as doing an evolutionary experiment on Earth to produce Humans 2.0, and is that story even true, are the Andromedans really trying to help us considering that so much of the information that they gave Alex Collier doesn't seem to have been accurate in my opinion, is the information that Ashayana Deane says about us being in a finite universe with energy being syphoned from it with the only way of our souls escaping from it being going through portals by a certain time true, what are the actual physics related to time travel as some such as Dan Burisch have indicated is understood by some in the black projects, what is truth behind ascension and DNA changes considering that a lot of what has been predicted related to these subjects hasn't happened etc.

[linksplatinum]

I once met an older gentleman, that worked at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, that had told me in conversation that his father actually took part in what he called the"clean-up crew" at the crash site there in Roswell, and that there were subjects, "ETs" that had died on the scene, and also that there was one of the Greys that was found alive after the incident. They had moved the ET to a secret location to study, and interrogate it etc, and had the site cleaned up pretty quickly, and to keep the suspicions at a minimum they made up the "weather balloon" story to keep the public at bay. The ET survived for several years afterwards but then became ill, and had died due to unknown causes, to which our medical practitioners had no knowledge of how to save the ET.

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by linksplatinum (here)
I once met an older gentleman, that worked at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, that had told me in conversation that his father actually took part in what he called the"clean-up crew" at the crash site there in Roswell, and that there were subjects, "ETs" that had died on the scene, and also that there was one of the Greys that was found alive after the incident. They had moved the ET to a secret location to study, and interrogate it etc, and had the site cleaned up pretty quickly, and to keep the suspicions at a minimum they made up the "weather balloon" story to keep the public at bay. The ET survived for several years afterwards but then became ill, and had died due to unknown causes, to which our medical practitioners had no knowledge of how to save the ET.

That mostly matches up with the story that is usually told, but the key there for me in relation to the Ceto and Burisch stories has to do with whether the "aliens" were actually the Greys with the black almond shape eyes or small humans which have both been described in different stories about the incident. If it was actual Greys, it puts to question Burisch's whole account of a pole shift disaster hitting Earth in one timeline and humans evolving into two separate species which migrated and became the Greys at Zeta Reticuli and the Tall Whites at Orion.

[Cardillac]

I agree totally with contributor Tesla's posting; read Joseph Farrell's impeccable "Roswell and the Reich" (one might learn something); Farrell makes an extremely compelling case that the Roswell craft was of N*zi terrestrial origin (Douglas Dietrich has expounded the craft was of Japanese origin- whatever- but one must remember the N*zis and Japanese at least to a limited extent shared technological secrets; either way the craft was of an advanced terrestrial origin)-

please stay well all-

Larry

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Posted by Cardillac (here)
I agree totally with contributor Tesla's posting; read Joseph Farrell's impeccable "Roswell and the Reich" (one might learn something); Farrell makes an extremely compelling case that the Roswell craft was of N*zi terrestrial origin (Douglas Dietrich has expounded the craft was of Japanese origin- whatever- but one must remember the N*zis and Japanese at least to a limited extent shared technological secrets; either way the craft was of an advanced terrestrial origin)-

please stay well all-

Larry

Thank you for this.
Part of the job the gov'ts of our world has assumed, lately, is "protecting us from ourselves",
which is why people still die for want of water, electricity, food, transportation, while the gifts we try to give each other are blackballed, classified, stolen.

If we really knew, I mean REALLY KNEW, how smart those Nazis were, it might really change our perception of history.

The problem is, we as humans learn, no matter how desperate a situation, some responses are not permissible while operating within the moral code.
I don't care how trapped or held back the Nazis felt, what they did was outrageous.

Even more outrageous, however, was the curtain of silence that descended on it all as if WWII was nothing more than a bad dream from which we awakened into the Cold War.


WWII was just a stage show, playing out the colors and characters of scenes predetermined by TPTB.
We are told that the actions of our ancestors during that war "mattered", that our families made a difference,
that we stopped the Nazis,

but we know that simply is not true.
My great-grandfather died ****ting himself and wandering in circles after being poisoned by shrapnel during the D Day events.
He lived to a ripe old age, but lost his mind -- and he gave that up for what?

So the USA could tell lies about profiting from the Nazis we "fought".

And beautiful, gentle creatures like my grandfather gave up their sanity and livelihood for this country...
Perhaps this is not true for the rest of my family, but personally my bloodline feels like it's at a dead end --

Thanks to Uncle Sam and his LIES.



p.s. the COld War itself didn't yield all of that technological loot. that was the Great Lie. The truth is that it took USSR and USA that long to figure out all that Nazi and Tesla stuff and make it work. we might actually have been collaborating with them all along. it certainly looks that way from the oil/gas perspective.




see the trap?

[pabranno]

Whitley Strieber has another take on this, that essentially the crash was deliberate, and was somewhat of a sacrificial nature, in order to help us start understanding, offering the opportunity to choose our response. In other books he writes passionately that his interactions with the Greys has been on a spiritual level, forcing him to confront deep and powerful aspects of his soul. I have not read his more recent books, so his interpretations have no doubt evolved since his earlier books.
I have been dying to ask this Forum: what do you think of Whitley Strieber? He is the one who really got the abduction/alien issue in the public eye with "Communion".

I know this is really derailing the topic, but if you could humor me just a couple of posts?
Pretty please???


Pamela

[Cardillac]

@Tesla

"WWII was just a stage show"- you know it, honey- all wars/conflicts are staged; we know that already-

"we might actually have been collaborating with them all along"- no s++t!-

it never ceases to amaze me how WWII ended just in the nick of time just before the advanced N+zi technologies went into production but the Allies managed to defeat the N+zis and acquire their knowledge just miraculously before the N+zis began production...

Larry

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by pabranno (here)
Whitley Strieber has another take on this, that essentially the crash was deliberate, and was somewhat of a sacrificial nature, in order to help us start understanding, offering the opportunity to choose our response. In other books he writes passionately that his interactions with the Greys has been on a spiritual level, forcing him to confront deep and powerful aspects of his soul. I have not read his more recent books, so his interpretations have no doubt evolved since his earlier books.
I have been dying to ask this Forum: what do you think of Whitley Strieber? He is the one who really got the abduction/alien issue in the public eye with "Communion".

I know this is really derailing the topic, but if you could humor me just a couple of posts?
Pretty please???


Pamela

I have watched interviews of Whitley Strieber, but he is one on those who I haven't really focused in on, so I don't specifically remember a lot of what he as said like I do with people like Dan Burisch, Alex Collier, Jim Sparks, Ashayana Deane and others. I think maybe it's because he doesn't have one specific story to tell, but has a lot of varied information. I'll need to watch a lot of his videos and see if I can pick up on information I haven't heard before related to the Greys and other things.

[ghostrider]

it is said by our plejaren friends that the crew members were androids built by people from the zeta-reticulum system ... sent here for exploration of earth ...

[Alien Ramone]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
it is said by our plejaren friends that the crew members were androids built by people from the zeta-reticulum system ... sent here for exploration of earth ...

That reminds me that Colonel Corso had described the Roswell aliens as being small Grey cyborgs with implants such as a metal band inside each of their heads to presumably act as an interface to the craft. I think there was some mention of the black eye lenses being an add on and that those lenses were back engineered for use in night vision technology. I think he also mentioned the back engineering of fiber optics and microchips with the help of commercial companies, which weren't told where the technology came from.

Edit: Just thinking about it now, what Corso described seems to contradict both Sanni Ceto and Dan Burisch. Sanni Ceto remembers being a Grey aboard the craft in hear past life, not a small Grey cyborg, if I am interpreting what she has said correctly, and Dan Burisch said the crew members were humans, not any type of Grey.

[Finefeather]

Just thought I would drop this in here for the record.
I do not comment much on ET stories...too much sentiment and imagination around to make even a dent...but I am quite convinced that Roswell was NOT an ET event but rather a Nazi event.
I know, I know...there are thousands of ideas and claims that seem so convincing to our ignorance, and we have been well and truly indoctrinated that Roswell was about ETs...but you should not underestimate the intelligence and motive of the American Military Industrial Complex...you may just have been duped, hook line and sinker, into believing a well orchestrated and fine example of mind control.

Take care
Ray