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    Good morning/afternoon, world -- (sorry for my USA-centric threads lately).

    ***CHRONIC FATIGUE***
    "A most cruel way to die."

    Quote ...The fatigue may worsen with physical or mental activity, but doesn't improve with rest. ~Mayo Clinic
    Quote ...Symptoms affect several body systems and may include weakness, muscle pain, impaired memory and/or mental concentration, and insomnia, which can result in reduced participation in daily activities.
    Quote Symptoms of CFS include malaise after exertion; unrefreshing sleep, widespread muscle and joint pain, sore throat, headaches of a type not previously experienced, cognitive difficulties, chronic and severe mental and physical exhaustion, and other characteristic symptoms in a previously healthy and active person. Additional symptoms may be reported, including muscle weakness, increased sensitivity to light, sounds and smells, orthostatic intolerance, digestive disturbances, depression, painful and often slightly swollen lymph nodes, cardiac and respiratory problems.[7] It is unclear if these symptoms represent co-morbid conditions or if they are produced by an underlying etiology of CFS.[5] CFS symptoms vary in number, type, and severity from person to person.[8]

    Quality of life of persons with CFS can be extremely compromised.[9]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome
    http://www.cdc.gov/cfs/
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...n/con-20022009

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    Hi PA! Sorry for my arseholimood last night/last week. This thread is just another CFS discussion, but with a personal slant on the disorder.



    ~We know all about bipolar, we know a little about autism, we know about Polio, AIDS, cancer etc. (at least what we're ABLE to find out about those) and of course we THINK these are all "separate issues", but do people really understand chronic fatigue?
    Do they acknowledge that within science, there can be NO SUCH THING as a "mystery disease". Red flag number one. Any time you see "mystery illness" you are seeing propaganda. Because out there in RL or cyberspace, rest assured (unlike CFS victims) that SOMEONE KNOWS exactly what causes chronic fatigue syndrome.



    Back when my great-grandparents walked the earth, and tilled it to grow food for their kids, people would have laughed at a disease like "chronic fatigue", and at best would have considered it a death sentence in the pioneer world.



    Chronic fatigue syndrome really IS a death sentence, if it's unmanaged.
    It's like having a GORILLA on your back -- not as "busy" as the monkey, no, but many more times as heavy. And it is this general "weight", the malaise and depression of feeling so tired, that yields the plethora of symptoms which accompany chronic fatigue syndrome as the disease slowly tears the human body to pieces under the strain of being unable to meet its own energy needs.


    People like to talk about free energy here a lot. Yay!

    But the first step toward having "free energy", you guys, is knowing where energy is wasted.

    If you can see, visualize, where your personal energy is "leaking" away and being wasted by outside forces, you have the very first weapon in the personal arsenal needed to establish free energy.



    Now, I am talking really about the disease of chronic fatigue, not the global free energy movement so much -- although many of us wish for success in that area -- because if we don't have healthy bodies, how can we even begin to enjoy the other aspects of human experience?

    (my neighbors down the hall are fighting eek -- mexican family, most of them don't fight much here, but this one couple is having trouble coping with their family)



    Anyhow, I am tired just writing this thread -- I've been without my Cannabis Rx for about 3 weeks (minus ash tray which isn't a good resource) and in that time, I've stopped exercising, stopped managing my healthy diet, and have felt tired even when I am sleeping well.

    Although I do not like being known as a cannabis user, the truth is, whatever qualities it has seems to help my CFS-like symptoms. I feel better appetite, have healthier bowel movements, more sex drive and beyond that a real need for quality exercise, I feel less "tied down" physically, etc. I truly believe the herb gives humans part of its life energy and quantum connectedness with the earth, and on top of that, it has numerous anti-viral and hormone/neurotransmitter-boosting properties.


    But not everyone with CFS will consider cannabis as a treatment or be willing to become a patient. So I guess I am wondering, are there PA people with this disease, how have you been treating it, is it killing you slowly the way it seems to be killing me, and have doctors tried calling it other things, i.e. older labels, psych slap-ons, etc.


    'Cause I dunno about you guys, but I am sick of feeling like **** every other week, regardless of what medications are or are not used -- I haven't been feeling better -- negative changes seem to "set off" a CFS attack, because the body is deathly afraid of conflict reducing its precious hoard of reserved energy...

    So it's super easy for quacks to look at a CFS victim and say "it's all in your head".


    Any other PA people with tried-and-true Chronic Fatigue?
    any other VETERANS on PA w/ fatigue? even a small bit?
    Tired of blaming myself for this "mystery disease" sucking the soul out of me.


    I
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    lol

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    Some links about people attempting to treat with cannabis (not a cure but a bandaid that works and has to be reapplied)

    http://medicalmarijuana.com/medical-...treatments/CFS

    Quote Headaches of a new kind or greater severity
    • Sore throat, frequent or recurring
    • Tender lymph nodes (cervical or axillary)
    • Other common symptoms include:
    • Irritable bowel, abdominal pain, nausea, diarrhea or bloating
    Chills and night sweats (4 years ago i had the worst night sweats you've ever seen in your life ~Tesla)
    • Brain fog
    • Chest pain
    • Shortness of breath
    • Chronic cough
    • Visual disturbances (blurring, sensitivity to light, eye pain or dry eyes)
    • Allergies or sensitivities to foods, alcohol, odors, chemicals, medications or noise
    • Difficulty maintaining upright position (orthostatic instability, irregular heartbeat, dizziness, balance problems or fainting)
    • Psychological problems (depression, irritability, mood swings, anxiety, panic attacks)

    http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-m...-syndrome.html

    http://www.patient.co.uk/forums/disc...and-pain-39570





    Quote please be open minded about this

    http://www.webmd.com/fibromyalgia/gu...ical-marijuana

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    Default Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome -- The Deadly Cycle

    sometimes people with CFS will display a huge burst of energy, which is the unconscious trying to accomplish the magnum opus before the body dies.

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    I get some of those symptoms at times. I'm also on anti-anxiety meds , don't know if that's related. I find exercise helps (I do weights). Your muscles get sore but you do somehow get more energy. Also I find cardio exercise - when I'm really huffing and puffing- helps me to kind of clear my mind. Helps my mind and my body. That combined with regular vegetable eating helps for me. Hang in there! What doesn't kill us makes us stronger! Take care Tesla
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    Quote Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
    I get some of those symptoms at times. I'm also on anti-anxiety meds , don't know if that's related. I find exercise helps (I do weights). Your muscles get sore but you do somehow get more energy. Also I find cardio exercise - when I'm really huffing and puffing- helps me to kind of clear my mind. Helps my mind and my body. That combined with regular vegetable eating helps for me. Hang in there! What doesn't kill us makes us stronger! Take care Tesla
    thanks for this. my urge was to go running, but i managed to injure my knee slightly.
    so running is hard and i am getting pissed. might try to get a bike soon to counter the knee injury.
    but .... bikes aren't free. lol.

    so getting off PA long enough to post Ebay in the satanic marketplace (lol) for a bike.... tsk choices choices.

    XD

    p.s. anti anxiety is a good descriptor for MMJ. it's virtually my use for it.
    feeling good (for once) and not feeling down (anxious).

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    If the robots I work for didn't have a drug policy I would DEFINATELY consider the herbs. There's a guy at work that is working on getting an exemption to this rule. Got me thinking here......
    "Without the human request, nothing will happen."

    "This must never be forgotten, that the human has the power to prevail."

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    How timely of you, Rachel! I've been studying this subject lately a lot because chronic fatigue has been my companion for the greater part of my life, over the years it has gradually gotten only worse. I try to eat healthy (vegeterian) food and I take quite a few dietary supplements & vitamins. Sometimes I have more energy to do things, but being tired all the time is the normal for me. When I'm totally exhausted which does happen quite often, is very depressing for me. The brain fog is awful and I know the feeling and I do have all the rest of the symptoms you mentioned there. Actually blurry vision right now too. Sometimes my pulse is really high (coffee doesn't help) and quite often I'm just feeling chilly. Even when it's summer I can feel both chilly & hot at the same time. Doctors used to label me just depressed and anxious, but I wasn't tired because I was depressed. I was depressed because I was so tired.

    And yeah, I tend to be anxious because I am super observant and aware. I seem to notice things which most people don't see and I guess it's somehow related to asperger's or whatever. When I was young I actually had a heart surgery because I was born with a broken heart so to speak, but my heart is doing just fine these days. Emotionally too! Processing emotions is so good for your heart. Better to cry and laugh when feel like doing so instead of storing all those negative emotions and feelings in the emotional body.

    My mind processes some much "information" so that's why I get so easily overloaded. I think that normal persons brain couldn't handle it and it would be "fried". All the external stimuli overload my nervous system if I don't be careful, I need a lot silence and meditation has helped me a lot. I'm also extrasensory (sensitive) so other people's feelings affect my moods too. I do live in a noisy big city and it certainly doesn't help my condition. I wish that I could live in the countryside.

    However, lately I've been managing just fine. In June I will actually finally meet a good alternative medicine doctor who knows a lot about CFS and I hope that he can give me some guidance. I've been trying to excercise again so that my physical condition would get better, but that too requires energy and motivation (which I lack).

    I recently found these articles, you should see them:

    Cayce Health Database

    Overview of chronic fatigue syndrome

    Edgar Cayce's perspective on chronic fatigue syndrome

    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome was not used as a diagnostic category during Edgar Cayce’s lifetime. However, many individuals suffering from the symptoms associated with this illness did receive readings from him. Some carried the medical diagnosis of "neurasthenia" which roughly translates as "nerve exhaustion." Because traditional medical descriptions of neurasthenia closely resemble CFS, some medical historians consider it to be the same condition.

    Other people coming to Edgar Cayce did not have a medical diagnosis, yet they complained of chronic fatigue with all its attendant symptoms (i.e., disturbed sleep, muscle pains, headaches, depression, etc.). Although the Cayce readings addressed each person as an individual, certain patterns of causation and treatment were common in these cases.

    Typical causes of CFS in the Cayce readings

    The most common cause of fatigue cited in the Cayce readings was poor eliminations which caused the body to become toxic. Toxicity was also linked to most of the other common symptoms of CFS, such as headaches, depression, and muscular aches and pains. Poor eliminations can result from a variety of conditions such as poor assimilations, glandular dysfunction, and pressure on spinal nerves. Accumulations of poisons in the system tends to produce excess acidity (sometimes even "superacidity") which Cayce linked to chronic fatigue.

    Anatomically, the readings given for persons who complained of excessive or chronic fatigue, often mentioned the organs of the "hepatic system." The primary organs of the hepatic system are the liver, kidneys, heart and lungs. The liver and kidneys are particularly significant as they were called the "battery of the body." Edgar Cayce said that the liver is the positive pole of the body’s battery and the kidneys are the negative pole. In some cases of fatigue and nerve exhaustion, Cayce said the "batteries of the body have run down." When the heart and circulatory system were affected, people often experienced poor circulation with abnormal blood pressure. Respiratory problems and sore throat were associated with problems in the hepatic system.

    In some cases of chronic fatigue, infectious factors were cited as a primary cause. Impaired immune response was usually noted in these instances.

    Advocating a holistic perspective, the Cayce readings on fatigue sometimes noted the mental and spiritual aspects of the condition. Negative attitudes and lack of spiritual focus contributed to the weariness and depression associated with chronic fatigue.

    Typical treatments for chronic fatigue in the Cayce readings

    Cayce’s approach to treating chronic fatigue typically consisted of a group of therapies which addressed the systemic features of the condition. Harold Reilly, a physiotherapist to whom Edgar Cayce made frequent referrals, created the term C.A.R.E. to describe the treatment pattern frequently recommended by Cayce. The letters of C.A.R.E. stand for "circulation," "assimilation," "relaxation" and "elimination." Assisting the body to become more normal in these key aspects of its functioning helps the body to increase its vitality and to heal itself.

    Reilly’s C.A.R.E. model includes several basic therapeutic modalities frequently recommended by Edgar Cayce, such as hydrotherapy, diet, spinal manipulation, exercise, electrotherapy (such as the radial appliance), and castor oil packs. The mental and spiritual aspects of healing are also important.

    Treatment Recommendations Based on the Edgar Cayce Approach

    Because most cases of CFS have broad systemic involvement, the Cayce approach utilizes a variety of diverse therapies to improve digestion, assimilation, elimination, relaxation, and circulation. Here are some general therapeutic guidelines for persons suffering from CFS:

    Diet: The Basic Cayce Diet is intended to improve assimilation and elimination. The diet focuses heavily on keeping a proper alkaline/acid balance while avoiding foods which produce toxicity and drain the system. Essentially, the diet consists mainly of fruits and vegetables while avoiding fried foods and refined carbohydrates ("junk food"). Certain food combinations are emphasized.

    Internal cleansing: Hydrotherapy includes drinking six to eight glasses of pure water daily, using castor oil packs, taking mild steam baths, and obtaining colonic irrigation to cleanse the bowel. Following the diet should also assist with internal cleansing. Mild laxatives may be taken (if needed).

    Spinal manipulation and massage
    : Osteopathic or chiropractic treatment is recommended to relieve any pressures on nerves that may be affecting assimilations, eliminations, and circulation. If osteopathic or chiropractic treatment is not available, the use of an electric vibrator along the spine may be helpful.
    Massage may also be helpful in improving circulation and producing relaxation.

    Medicine: Atomidine (I have this one) is a medicinal product containing 1% iodine trichloride. Small doses of Atomidine may be helpful in stimulating and purifying the glandular system.

    Electrotherapy: Regular use of the Radial Appliance may be helpful in balancing circulation, increasing relaxation, and improving sleep.

    Attitudes and emotions: The mental and spiritual aspects of healing are frequently discussed in the Cayce readings. Particularly, an attitude of desiring and expecting to be healed is important. A positive mental and emotional attitude and can be created and maintained by focusing on a high purpose (spiritual ideal) for being healed.

    Enhancing Blood Volume in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) and Fibromyalgia

    The low blood volume finding in chronic fatigue syndrome has been consistently replicated; there is no doubt that low blood volume is common in this disorder. Low blood volume can cause, among other things, reduced blood flows to the brain (cognitive difficulties), problems standing (orthostatic intolerance), increased heart rates and reduced heart functioning.

    While not the entire answer to chronic fatigue syndrome, increasing blood volume can be quite helpful.



    Many people with chronic fatigue syndrome are about a liter short of blood

    Non-Drug Approaches

    Elevating Your Head While Sleeping

    In what’s surely the easiest practice simply elevate the head of the bed six inches by putting some risers under the bed legs at the head of the bed (or by using a body-length wedge shaped cushion. NASA uses this approach to recondition its astronauts after spaceflights. One person (see comments below) found a dramatic improvement in his sleep after doing this for a week.

    Salt

    “The reduction in salt, which is a good idea for most people, may push orthostatic intolerant people into having symptoms of OT” Dr. Peter Rowe

    Many people with chronic fatigue syndrome crave salt. Increasing your salt (with your doctor’s permission) and fluid intake can increase your blood volume increasing blood flows to your heart and brain, enabling you to stand more easily and think more clearly.

    Increasing salt intake will only work, though, if you increase your fluid intake as well for (see below). Increasing salt intake should be done slowly and is often achieved simply by eating saltier foods. Some ME/CFS and POTS patients who already had low salt intake have had dramatic improvements by increasing their salt intake. Do not increase your salt intake, however, if you have high blood pressure.

    Be consistent! - Dr. Rowe suggests that patients who make a serious (i.e. consistent) effort at increasing their fluid intake will benefit the most. He recommends drinking a glass of liquid every two hours with a goal of drinking at least two liters of water a day (approximately half a gallon). If you’re trying to increase both blood volume and salt tomato juice is an excellent choice.

    More causes of CFS
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    Wind, you deserve a longer reply, but you nailed it with the liver thing.
    My son and I both have abnormal enzyme levels. The difference is the time of onset, with fewer vaccines I was healthy longer;
    his heritage is to have good health but a delicate mind -- I fear for our little ones ...

    edit: I forgot to say thank you.
    (feeling tired already!)

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    Sorry to hear you are a victim of this cruel and misunderstood syndrome. I've been dealing with it for 37 years now. Sometimes I don't have the energy to take a shower. You become a pariah. People look at you and see nothing wrong, no broken bones, stitches, cuts, etc., but everything you try to do is an effort.

    Stress worsens the symptoms greatly. I am best when I keep to a very healthy diet, leaving out all wheat and a great number of other things. I screw up constantly.

    The hardest part are all the "new maladies" that are constantly cropping up. My neck hurts, then my left foot, then my right knee, then all the joints in my fingers and hands. When that gets a little better than I have the gastrointestinal problems, headaches, random body aches.

    When I was younger, before I was diagnosed by Cleveland Clinic, I went through the weekly, "I must have something fatal, I feel so badly."

    I have incredible thoughts but can't seem to articulate them or get them on paper because of the brain fog. Not getting enough sleep is a big enemy. But I have difficulty going to sleep and staying asleep.

    I quit a job many years ago because I felt so bad, but I've managed to plug along and teach for 30 years now. Some days I feel better, some I manage, some I think I'm not going to make it, but I'm still here. Candida growth seems to be very harmful.

    Some think it could be a retro-virus of some kind, perhaps related to an immunization in childhood years.

    I have also heard that abduction victims often complain of similar complaints. Whatever the cause, the syndrome is quite crushing. If I can think of anything else I will PM you.

    Take care,
    Your CFS friend.
    With Peace and Love, Mandala
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    THANK YOU for this.
    Yes, a virus seems to fit.
    My "gut feeling" told me we have something akin to AIDS.
    I would rather die fast than slow.

    But fate dealt us a cruel blow, in that our dance partner has no face, nowhere to put the sword -- lol

    (SO WEIRD while typing this my liver started aching. i haven't even walked today -- why would i have a stitch?)

    @_@ the more i worry the sicker i get, also i feel a diarrhea coming LMAO tmi






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    I am proud of you for teaching in spite of the illness.
    It's a good choice of job, because when you tire you can just give some free time or busy work, turn on music or take the class outside.

    i would just take them outside and not even tell the staff "it's for my personal health" lol


    some vitamin D and no fluorescent light = good trade

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    Talking about liver... I just bought this supplement too, don't know if it will help. I also suffer from annoying eczema (related to leaky gut) and this thing called crazy researcher syndrome too.

    Dandelions improve your overall health, including liver function and skin problems



    Time to put the “dandelions are annoying weeds” thoughts to rest.

    Its roots, sap and leaves are powerful ways to help heal the body, ranging from improving liver function to combating skin conditions such as eczema. In fact, according to the University of Maryland Medical Center, “Native Americans also boiled dandelion in water and took it to treat kidney disease, swelling, skin problems, heartburn and upset stomach.”

    Dandelion has been used successfully across a variety of cultures, for several applications. It’s no secret that it’s an excellent way to keep the body healthy.

    Here’s a closer look at some of the top health benefits of dandelion.

    How dandelion helps health

    1. Maintains proper liver function. Dandelion root is known to prevent liver hemorrhaging, but it also improves blood purity and the flow of bile, which the liver manages and plays a role in.

    2. Fights acne and eczema. Have a case of bad acne? Drinking dandelion juice acts as a stimulant, detoxifier, diuretic and antioxidant that helps to fight off toxins which often result from out-of-balance hormones. The toxins are ultimately sweat out through the skin and because of the juice’s stimulating ability, pores are widened to help ease the process. Dandelion sap may also be used topically.

    Furthermore, because its sap is highly alkaline and has germ-fighting properties, it’s touted as an ideal way to manage a variety of skin conditions including general itching, eczema and ringworm.

    3. Improve eye health. The American Optometric Association advises people consume at least 12 milligrams combined of lutein and zeaxanthin daily to help lowers the risk of cataracts and age-related macular degeneration (3). Dandelion greens contain both of these nutrients. In fact, just one cup exceeds the American Optometric Association’s recommendation to maintain eye health, containing 15 milligrams of lutein and zeaxanthin.

    4. Weight loss aid. Consuming dandelion greens is ideal for those trying to shed a few pounds. Not only are they low in calories, but they act as a diuretic, causing water weight to be omitted through urination in a safe manner.

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    I have had it for over 30 years. Was diagnosed by an infectious disease specialist about 23 years ago, thankfully. The best explanation I have read yet for cause is this...When the polio vaccine was developed, it eliminated the paralytic polio virus. But the polio family of viruses contain about 70 different viruses. When the paralytic form, that resides in the gut, was eliminated, it created an eco-niche which allowed different types of polio like virus to explode--in it's place.

    Mandela, Tesla, The most perverse symptom, considering we are so drained and tired, is the inability to sleep. For me, this is often due to muscle pain, but there are neurological causes as well and blood pressure problems have also been implicated. I take low dose gabapentin and low dose valium and this works. Doctors hate giving people valium because it can be addicting. But if you aren't an addictive personality, understand the dangers and maintain a low dose, you should be okay. It gave me my life back.

    I plan try medicinal marijuana soon. Have to be careful with Maryjane because some of it gives me anxiety attacks...but if I can find some that is tailored for the body and leaves the emotions alone, should be okay.

    Nice info, Wind. Thanks

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    Thanks to you all.
    My son is drawn to dandelions. Just touching them seems therapeutic for him.
    What a special little boy.

    Thanks for the advice. Holy crap re: polio.

    Amazing that some doctors tell the truth yet the establishment continues to sell vaccines.

    @ Leaky gut people and skin people I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL...
    I get a small rash of breakouts, and if i touch it, i get a staph infection if i am not careful.
    this gets much worse when i drink more than 1 soda per day.

    the brain fog is worse with soda and coffee with sugar.
    milk and cereal seems to worsen the brain fog.

    tuna has lots of toxins but when i was eating it daily i felt 10x better.
    when i had the money i was opting for tuna as a meal rather than sugar foods.
    in the long run i think risking the toxins in real food is better than eating the sugar.



    @_@ excuse me while i investigate the restroom.





    p.s. i have a genetic or antibody disorder that prevents uptake of B vitamins.
    anyone know a CHEAP way to get Deplin? L Methylfolate


    thanks

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    I had the good fortune to visit a doctor of Integrated Medicine before he retired, who was such a good guy he actually paid for blood work that I could not afford so that he could make a good diagnosis.
    I thought I had CFS, and while he didn't deny that was a possibility, he was sure that I had fibromyalgia, hypothyroidism, and in particular, what he called "stealth viruses" from the SV40 polio vaccine.
    It's been a long time since that conversation, but I think he said it's difficult to distinguish fibromyalgia from CFS given that their symptoms are so similar, but the presence of mycoplasma is an important and deciding factor, if I recall correctly.
    Years later, I found info on the Net about when and in what states in the US the SV40 was administered, and I had indeed received that vaccine, which was contaminated with live Rhesus monkey viruses, and has caused untold damage to millions.
    He recommended lots of supplements, but thought that one in particular would be especially helpful, known as Transfer Factor. It is derived from bovine colostrum and is supposed to help the immune system identify and attack harmful viruses.
    I think the treatment for CFS is similar to fibromyalgia and Transfer Factor might be helpful. Source Naturals makes a Transfer Factor supplement, and it's not too expensive.
    http://www.vitacost.com/source-natur...mg-60-capsules
    I've been taking it for years, and I'm not getting worse, at least, but I take a lot of other supplements too, so it's hard to know which is doing what.
    One thing I take which I cannot do without is fresh aloe vera gel, about a pound per day in a smoothie.
    You can get the fresh leaves from most Mexican grocery stores or order it shipped from Aloe Labs in Harlingen, Texas.
    It's antibiotic, antifungal and antiviral, and is amazingly good for cleansing, detoxing and controlling inflammation.
    Candida became a bigger problem once I had most of my teeth pulled.
    It seems to thrive in the mouth much more once the teeth are gone.
    I've been trying various natural sugar substitutes like Xylitol and erythritol, but they give me gas and diarrhea.
    They are better than honey, though, which definitely feeds candida.
    I am going to try date sugar again.

    Sodas are a BIG no-no!
    If you are addicted to carbonated drinks, I suggest getting some water kefir grains and making your own bubbley fermented fruit drinks.
    They are delicious and good for you as long as you don't sugar them up too much.
    The best Xylitol I've found is made from organic hardwoods grown in the US.
    http://www.globalsweet.com/
    All the rest I've seen are made from corn, much of it from China.
    Even the organic corn can be contaminated with GMOs now, so I recommend the Global Sweet brand.
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    I do believe that vaccines have caused my condition too, but I cannot be absolutely sure. Possibly antibiotics too... However, I do know that I was born relatively healthy, but my problems started in early chilhood. I started to become more tired and I had festering rash.

    CFS can be really disabling, sometimes I feel really thankful that I have the energy to go outside with my dog. If someone would ask me when I am the most happiest, it is when when I am in nature, perhaps in a silent forest (accompanied by the sounds of nature). Then I feel at peace & not tired, not anxious at all.

    I have studied the effects of medical marijuana... I am a rebel by nature, but I would never really want to try it the illegal way. Then again I figure that it could be legal here perhaps sometime around the next decade at best because this government is so conservative. Antidepressants are a really big business here... And they don't help people, they just make them more obedient, unquestioning zombielike citizens. Lol, but now I'm just blabbering.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I had the good fortune to visit a doctor of Integrated Medicine before he retired, who was such a good guy he actually paid for blood work that I could not afford so that he could get a good diagnosis.
    I thought I had CFS, and while he didn't deny that was a possibility, he was sure that I had fibromyalgia, hypothyroidism, and in particular, what he called "stealth viruses" from the SV40 polio vaccine.
    It's been a long time since that conversation, but I think he said it's difficult to distinguish fibromyalgia from CFS given that their symptoms are so similar, but the presence of mycoplasma is an important factor.
    Years later, I found info on the Net about when and in what states in the US the SV40 was administered, and I had indeed received that vaccine, which was contaminated with live Rhesus monkey viruses, and has caused untold damage to millions.
    He recommended lots of supplements, but thought that one in particular would be especially helpful, known as Transfer Factor. It is derived from bovine colostrum and is supposed to help the immune system identify and attack harmful viruses.
    I think the treatment for CFS is similar to fibromyalgia and Transfer Factor might be helpful. Source Naturals makes a Transfer Factor supplement, and it's not too expensive.
    I've been taking it for years, and I'm not getting worse, at least, but I take a lot of other supplements too, so it's hard to know which is doing what.
    One thing I take which I cannot do without is fresh aloe vera gel, about a pound per day in a smoothie.
    You can get the fresh leaves from most Mexican grocery stores or order it shipped from Aloe Labs in Harlingen, Texas.
    It's antibiotic, antifungal and antiviral, and is amazingly good for cleansing, detoxing and controlling inflammation.
    that 2011 study released in ROME Italy said, in Post mortem brain samples, SV-40 and other polyomaviruses were THE common unifying factor in AUTISM.
    chronic fatigue in a child would look exactly like autism. imo


    thanks for sharing that very crucial detail.

    p.s. hte doctors said, parents were vertically transmitting this old virus to the kids whether or not the kids got the filthy polio shot......

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    I do believe that vaccines have caused my condition too, but I cannot be absolutely sure. Possibly antibiotics too... However, I do know that I was born relatively healthy, but my problems started in early chilhood. I started to become more tired and I had festering rash.

    CFS can be really disabling, sometimes I feel really thankful that I have the energy to go outside with my dog. If someone would ask me when I am the most happiest, it is when when I am in nature, perhaps in a silent forest (accompanied by the sounds of nature). Then I feel at peace & not tired, not anxious at all.

    I have studied the effects of medical marijuana... I am a rebel by nature, but I would never really want to try it the illegal way. Then again I figure that it could be legal here perhaps sometime around the next decade at best because this government is so conservative. Antidepressants are a really big business here... And they don't help people, they just make them more obedient, unquestioning zombielike citizens. Lol, but now I'm just blabbering.
    i missed your post earlier, no apology necessary, this is a very important thing to expose!!!

    anti depressants cause STROKE -- they cut off the frontal lobe...
    it gets into the water ... everyone gets a dose


    most people can't even get high from 2nd hand MMJ smoke... yet the pills are pushed as the "safest way".


    i say NO WAY to drugs for profit -- especially Mainstream

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    Tesla, have you used cannabis as a way to establish a better dialogue with your body? It tells one to stretch or lift or hold a particular position. Very slowly this conversation tends to realign in a way more powerful than typical post surgery rehab and at many more levels. Best wishes.

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    Quote Posted by grannyfranny100 (here)
    Tesla, have you used cannabis as a way to establish a better dialogue with your body? It tells one to stretch or lift or hold a particular position. Very slowly this conversation tends to realign in a way more powerful than typical post surgery rehab and at many more levels. Best wishes.
    Thank you, will try this. Sounds Bene Gesserit, i.e. a good idea.
    Thank you Grannyfranny100.

    (veterans in my area seem desperate for connections haha -- last vet i spoke to said "best to self-provide" and i did not heed it.)

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