Russia and VT point the Finger for 9/11: Did the Israelies plant nukes in the towers? Nuke cancer in victims.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by yelik (here)
War games again, I wonder if this has anything to do with Ukraine?

From Gordon Duff, in his above interview with Mike Harris, starting at about the 35:00 mark:

Here's one of the questions we had, in that this clearly dumps on the Israelis, more serious than anything I've ever done, and we know where it comes from. The timing of course is during the issues with the Ukraine, where Russia has been very angry at the hypocrisy of the United States and NATO over the Ukraine. I mean ... this has been insane. But we have to see that the Israeli's have been trying to look like they have been standing with Russia on this, and Russia really lands on them, which more or less tells me that things were not as how they have been seen, that Putin (this is me [Duff] talking, not the paper) that this is Putin lashing out at those Israelis involved ...

I see the relation between 9/11 and the Ukraine as having several aspects.

The longer term goal is control of our civilization. Beneath that, the goal is the control of the most troublesome and unruly nations and peoples left on the planet, such as the American and Islamic nations.

The US is being destroyed - its productivity, its money, and its national government. While it is being destroyed, the tensions are being used to destroy Islamic nations and to tyrannize the American population. As part of this, the BRICS nations are being built up, politically, monetarily, economically and militarily to provide a suitable counter force.

More and more Muslims and more and more Americans, myself included, deeply distrust the US government, just as more and more officials and employees of the US government deeply distrust both Muslims and patriotic Americans. This exposure of 9/11 is one powerful means of fuelling that distrust.

The most essential control mechanism, as will become increasingly evident over the next few years, is the monetary system.

===

“Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws” – Baron M.A. Rothschild.

We are now manifesting the reality that will justify a new version of that famous quote:

“Give me control over a planets currency, and I care not who makes its laws”

[ThePythonicCow]

Aha - another important contribution on this, again from Gordon Duff, in this article that he posted on Iranian's PressTV: US secretly selling nukes worldwide via Israel:

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In 2008, Houston police pulled over CIA agent Roland Carnaby on what appeared to be a routine traffic stop. A few seconds later, Carnaby was dead.

It is illegal to detain a CIA agent under any circumstances. They may carry any weapon, anywhere, anytime, and request assistance from any law enforcement official with more than certainty.

Why then would this incident be part of a highly classified Russian intelligence report? Could it, perhaps, be that Carnaby, answering directly to former President and CIA Director, George H.W. Bush, was murdered to silence his participation in the theft and sale of American nuclear warheads?

Carnaby was holding a trove of documents outlining the theft and transfer of hundreds of nuclear warheads from the Pantex Plant near Amarillo, Texas. Weapons sent there for disassembly were transshipped to Israel and, from there, refurbished, their cores remachined and then sold around the world or stored in Israeli embassies and consulates around the world.

The Russian report outlines a very different view of the past 30 years, a “view” that “fits like a glove.”

DIMONA OUT OF ACTION
The report not only confirms Israel’s nuclear weapon inventory but outlines the program of subterfuge and piracy required to keep Israel as a nuclear power after their facility at Dimona suffered a critical “event” in 1988.

“Dimona is a standard 75-megawatt thermal open top reactor as used in France for their plutonium weapons production program, their version of Stanford (Editor's note: Probably "Hanford").

Due to overuse as a fast breeder reactor by the Israelis, Dimona suffered a "steam explosion" IE a flash over indecent due to neutron criticality back in the late 1980's under Bush 1. This shut down its operation for many years until repairs could be made.
It know only operates at very low power levels due to neutron absorption damage to the containment vessel. Now mainly use for isotope production. This forced the Israelis to turn to stolen nuclear stockpiles from the US for the continuation of their nuclear program.”

The highly classified Russian report, released, experts believe, to demonstrate American hypocrisy over recent events in the Ukraine, is a litany of horror stories. If this is a “first shot over the bow” by Russian intelligence, American officials can only dread what may be to come.

BACKGROUND
48 hours ago, the retired chief of Russia’s counter-intelligence effort for the Middle East released a highly classified report designed to embarrass the United States and demonstrate their servitude to Israel and complicity in broad acts of nuclear proliferation.

The report, loaded with “shock value” intelligence and backed by reams of supporting documents including classified nuclear weapons plans demonstrated that Russia has been able to maintain a high level of penetration of not just American nuclear weapons labs but security agencies as well.

ROUND ONE, 9/11
The report, carefully structured for maximum shock value, begins with 9/11, the watershed event of our era:

“The type of nuclear devices used on 911 were a modified version of the W-54 nuclear artillery shells that were covertly provided to the Israelis between 1988 and 1998 from US surplus stockpiles illegally exported during the Bush/Clinton era.

Chemical analysis done by DOE Sandi was able to identify the chemical/radiation footprint or fingerprint of the warheads based on samples taken after 911 of the fallout at ground zero.”

According to the report, 911 was an Israeli operation facilitated by blackmail of Bush 41 and 43, threatening them with “outing” for their personal financial involvement in the sale of 350 primarily w54 nuclear artillery rounds, sold through Israel but distributed to a number of nations.

The Russian report further outlines that NATO partners, particularly Britain and France, were involved every step of the way. 911 was cover for stolen gold, stock fraud and the looting of the American economy. The “wars for profit” were the Bush boys cashing in on their own.

THE “HOW” OF 911
A number of theories have been introduced to explain the mysterious effects seen at ground zero on 9/11. In an article on the Press TV website, evidence of a widespread cover-up of an epidemic of radiation exposure-related cancers tied to 9/11, was presented.

Not only has Russia confirmed the Press TV findings, they present evidence of nuclear weapons use, evidence from a suppressed report based on findings by the Department of Energy’s Sandia Laboratories.

“Only a 2 kiloton device was needed to drop the buildings. A 2 kiloton device will produce a fireball of apx 150 to 200 feet in diameter at over 4000 degrees Centigrade. Just large enough to melt the I beams of the central core of the building and drop them in place. The light flash would last less than 1 second and primarily be in the UV light range. Overpressure would only be at 60PSI max and directed upwards with the blast.

Fallout would be minimal and located to within ground zero range only. Radiation would drop to acceptable levels within 72 hrs. after the blast. Most fall out was trapped in the cement dust thus causing all of the recent cancer deaths that we are now seeing in NYC amongst first responders.”

The report continues with details that close the door on speculation about 9/11, putting an end to conspiracy theories and, in particular, the wildest one of all, the pseudo-science fairy tale broadly rejected by the 9/11 Commission but allowed to stand as America descended into an Islamophobic frenzy.

“Fallout would be minimal and located to within ground zero range only. Radiation would drop to acceptable levels within 72 hrs. after the blast. Most fall out was trapped in the cement dust thus causing all of the recent cancer deaths that we are now seeing in NYC amongst first responders.

Melted steel and iron oxide or "nano thermite" is a byproduct of the very high gamma ray / Neutron flux induced into the central steel core. The radiation dissolves the steel into iron oxide consuming the carbon and silicone in the steel.”

This explains the missing steel columns and the very important clue of the "vaporized” 20 ton antenna tower atop the south tower. The upward blast of radiation literally vaporized it. Video evidence proves this to be true.

The total (redacted) data file from DOE Sandia on the 911 event is well over 72 MB. “P.S. Snowden didn’t have a Q clearance so he missed this one.”

The scope of the Bush/Cheney/Israeli nuclear proliferation operation, according to the report, is well beyond anything imagined. Here, Russia places the blame, naming not only Vice President Dick Cheney and former White House Chief of Staff Ram Emanuel but Tom Countryman, tasked, according to Russian sources, with actually managing the program that spread nuclear weapons to Brazil, North and South Korea, Saudi Arabia and a number of other nations.

“Illegal distribution of US nuclear material to foreign allies was not limited to Israel. Virtually all NATO allies were in on this scam too. Dick Cheney was the bad guy on this one. Bush2/Cheney traded nuclear pits to foreign country as IOU’s in order to get what they wanted. Tom Countryman a well-known Israeli operative is curiously now in charge of N.N.P. at the State Department under Obama. He was put there by Ram Emanuel.”

REACTIVATING “DEAD NUKES”
Only nuclear weapons that had deteriorated but could be recommissioned were of use to Israel. The Russian report outlines the basis for selecting the W-54 warhead and exacting details on how weapons were created out of America’s “nuclear scrap heap.”

“A total of over 350 pits were transferred to the Israelis over a 10 to 20 year period of time. The W-54 type of pit design were the most desirable due to the 2 point implosion pit design. This is the easiest to re manufacture and modify as compared to other circular pit designs.

The pill shaped design of the W-54 type weapon contains over 1.5 times more plutonium than a standard pit. This would allow enough Plutonium to be recovered that was still of weapons grade use even after 32 plus years of age. Americium build up in the pit over time eventually makes the Pit unusable as a weapon so they have a limited shelf life based on how fast or slow the Plutonium was produce in the reactor at Stanford.

Usually it was about 150 days max. Irradiation time in the reactor during production determines the shelf life of the pit as weapons grade material. All of the micro nukes used by the Israelis are re-manufactured W-54 type series devices.”

CONCLUSION
According to the Russian report, Israel used remanufactured W-54 warheads, reconfigured as micro-nukes, for terror bombings in Bali, London and to destroy the Fukashima nuclear reaction site in Japan.

With weapons around the world, stored in embassies and consulates, and their powerful friends in the American “right,” Israel has managed to maintain nuclear superpower status without a real production facility, using only pirates and traitors, something America, according to our Russian sources, seems to have no shortage of.

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[thunder24]

Posted by Paul (here)
I see the relation between 9/11 and the Ukraine as having several aspects.

The longer term goal is control of our civilization. Beneath that, the goal is the control of the most troublesome and unruly nations and peoples left on the planet, such as the American and Islamic nations.

Just had a conversation along these lines with some good friends... and your quote is hitting nail on head. ALL ABOUT CONTROL!

The US is being destroyed - its productivity, its money, and its national government. While it is being destroyed, the tensions are being used to destroy Islamic nations and to tyrannize the American population. As part of this, the BRICS nations are being built up, politically, monetarily, economically and militarily to provide a suitable counter force.

More and more Muslims and more and more Americans, myself included, deeply distrust the US government, just as more and more officials and employees of the US government deeply distrust both Muslims and patriotic Americans. This exposure of 9/11 is one powerful means of fuelling that distrust.

The most essential control mechanism, as will become increasingly evident over the next few years, is the monetary system.

===

“Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws” – Baron M.A. Rothschild.

We are now manifesting the reality that will justify a new version of that famous quote:

“Give me control over a planets currency, and I care not who makes its laws”

We were also talking about the Amero... friends said they heard it had been released in Canada, not sure what their source was per I don't remember...can anyone confirm or deny this up there?

So the conversation went on to the NWO coming to full blown out there in 2015 by I think it was Lyndsey Williams,https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...015#post837243...

Would the AMERO be a counter by some faction within to try and block the BRICS?!

so then came up how our military is supposedly down sizing, which brings up the Pay to Play mercenaires of the BlackWater etc... variety... not loyal to anyone but themselves.


Read today about robots serving fast food and doing something else along the lines of productivity... Makes the movie I ROBOT come to mind... Laura Engram keeps hitting on Imigration, hell what about creation of the bots to take jobs.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
We were also talking about the Amero... friends said they heard it had been released in Canada, not sure what their source was per I don't remember...can anyone confirm or deny this up there?

So the conversation went on to the NWO coming to full blown out there in 2015 by I think it was Lyndsey Williams,(not sure if that is source either)... Would the AMERO be a counter by some faction within to try and block the BRICS?!

I'll avoid answering that here, ostensibly to avoid wandering further off topic (but really because I don't have a clue.)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by thunder24 (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
I see the relation between 9/11 and the Ukraine as having several aspects.

The longer term goal is control of our civilization. Beneath that, the goal is the control of the most troublesome and unruly nations and peoples left on the planet, such as the American and Islamic nations.

Just had a conversation along these lines with some good friends... and your quote is hitting nail on head. ALL ABOUT CONTROL!

The US is being destroyed - its productivity, its money, and its national government. While it is being destroyed, the tensions are being used to destroy Islamic nations and to tyrannize the American population. As part of this, the BRICS nations are being built up, politically, monetarily, economically and militarily to provide a suitable counter force.

More and more Muslims and more and more Americans, myself included, deeply distrust the US government, just as more and more officials and employees of the US government deeply distrust both Muslims and patriotic Americans. This exposure of 9/11 is one powerful means of fuelling that distrust.

The most essential control mechanism, as will become increasingly evident over the next few years, is the monetary system.

===

“Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws” – Baron M.A. Rothschild.

We are now manifesting the reality that will justify a new version of that famous quote:

“Give me control over a planets currency, and I care not who makes its laws”

We were also talking about the Amero... friends said they heard it had been released in Canada, not sure what their source was per I don't remember...can anyone confirm or deny this up there?

So the conversation went on to the NWO coming to full blown out there in 2015 by I think it was Lyndsey Williams,(not sure if that is source either)... Would the AMERO be a counter by some faction within to try and block the BRICS?!

so then came up how our military is supposedly down sizing, which brings up the Pay to Play mercenaires of the BlackWater etc... variety... not loyal to anyone but themselves.


Read today about robots serving fast food and doing something else along the lines of productivity... Makes the movie I ROBOT come to mind... Laura Engram keeps hitting on Imigration, hell what about creation of the bots to take jobs.

they put you on the $50


link

"I don't know how real these Amero notes are. A while ago there was a lot of hoopla over "proof" of an Amero coin that turned out to be produced by a private company as a collector item. You can actually go online and buy them right now if you'd like here..."

[Billy]

Posted by GuyFox (here)


"Russia's very angry at the US and Europe for the hypocrisy that they have shown in the Ukraine,"
says Gordon Duff of Veterans Today. So they have revealed a secret, about the Israelis:
"They are accused of being guilty of nuclear proliferation" (passing on US weapons)...
and: "Storing nuclear weapons in Israeli Embassies."

I have a sense that Russia could tell America much more about its own history, than what has come through in the corporate controlled press. Are they now threatening TPTB that they will do just that - Tell the Truth - if the US squeezes it too hard in the Ukraine? This looks to be like another move in the big chess game that is going on.

Is it just me that does not get this. Why has Russia not revealed this before now. why now 13yrs later.

To me this sounds like a dysfunctional family feud where one brother has secretly been very naughty(USA) and the other brother knows (RUSSIA) and now the naughty brother is trying to steal the other brother toys. (UKRAINE) Now he runs off to tell Momma (The World) that his brother has secretly been naughty.

In the meantime because of the psychopathic dysfunctional families, the people continue to suffer.

Stop playing games Russia, If you have the truth and evidence, set it free.

peace.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I think it has to do with the Central Bank being set up in Ukraine to suck the country dry by the Rothschild vampire network...

Net&Yahoo went to meet with Russia to say hey, it isn't us...

This is Russia's way of saying... stop lying

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Billy (here)
Is it just me that does not get this. Why has Russia not revealed this before now. why now 13yrs later.

To me this sounds like a dysfunctional family feud where one brother has secretly been very naughty(USA) and the other brother knows (RUSSIA) and now the naughty brother is trying to steal the other brother toys. (UKRAINE) Now he runs off to tell Momma (The World) that his brother has secretly been naughty.

In the meantime because of the psychopathic dysfunctional families, the people continue to suffer.

Stop playing games Russia, If you have the truth and evidence, set it free.

peace.

No nation is an independent player in this "game". They are pawns.

Now is the time for the US to pull back from its Asian/Muslim wars and instead to collapse economically and blame Russia and China for it.

Now the US is withdrawing troops from Afghanistan. Now (just a couple years ago) it was time to "kill" Osama bin Laden. Now (this last year) has been time to make the NSA into a villain. Now is time to begin to make the Anglo-American banksters into villains. Now is the time to turn American patriots against their government, dividing Americans along that fault line. Now is the time to unite American truthers behind a damning report of the real 9/11, dividing Americans along yet another fault line.

New fault lines are being ripped open, while old ones are being papered over.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The 9/11 attacks were a global state terror operation permitted by the administration of the USA, which had foreknowledge of the operation yet remained intentionally unresponsive in order to make war against Afghanistan and Iraq.

To put it briefly, the 9/11 events were an instance of the strategy of tension enacted by political and economic powers in the USA to seek advantages for the oil and arms industries.Italy too was a victim of the “strategia della tensione” of the CIA, enacted in Italy from the time of the Portella della Ginestra massacre in Sicily in 1947 until 1993.There is much evidence of this strategy, both circumstantial and scientific.The reports of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), November 20, 2005, set forth the following conclusions... link

Further circumstantial evidence against Tenet and Wilshire is the following. On July 12, 2001 Osama bin Laden was in American Hospital in Dubai. He was visited by a CIA agent. This information was given to Le Figaro, which also reported that bin Laden had been operated on in this hospital, having arrived from Quetta, Pakistan.

Recognizing that such grave crimes threaten the peace, security and the well being of the world,
Affirming that the most serious crimes of concern to the international community as a whole must not go unpunished and that their effective prosecution must be ensured by taking measures at the national level and by enhancing international cooperation,
Determined to put an end to impunity for the perpetrators of these crimes and
thus to contribute to the prosecution of such crimes,
Recalling that the duty of every state to exercise its jurisdiction over those
responsible for international crimes, …

link

I was just sent the link to the Bilderberg Mafia Doc http://www.scribd.com/doc/138038138/...olitical-Mafia

[GuyFox]

CONNECT just two dots - and ponder

WHY - were these guys happy and dancing?
(And HOW did they know to make preparations ahead of time "to document the event"?)
(1)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=97ImPcb4keY

(2)
This guy owned 9/11 and broke a long and consistent habit of having breakfast at the WTC
on just one day - the morning of 9/11:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ScGZCqEyGM

(this was written a few days after 9/11 - and not by Larry Silverstein):

THE TOWER

I used to work in the World Trade Center, North Tower. I remember
the long walk through the dark and crowded shopping maze and the
sudden emergence into a world of light. The real triumph of the building
was that it was so incredibly massive and yet when one stood at its foot,
awaiting transport upwards, there was a feeling of weightlessness.
The light and space around the elevators imbued one with a sense
of wonder. What joys were to be found at higher levels, when one felt
so airy on the ground?

The upwards journey came in stages, first to a landing half way up and
then a change of elevators for the final leg. The work-a-day trip on an
ordinary day would end on a large office, unremarkable apart from the
view. The occasional journey to the restaurant at the very top,
“Windows on the World” was a special treat, with the city laid out
as if in a dream, a monopoly board of buildings stretching along gray
roadways towards the breathing green of Central Park. People were
dots, too small to be seen as human. Cars and the inevitable traffic
jams in the distance were the sole connection to that mundane world
that had been left behind. Here one was truly a master of life, with a
god-like view of the world. The American dream realised.

I’ve been haunted the past few nights with brief but reocurring
nightmares. I can see myself in that old WTC office, surrounded by
desks and files. Strangely there are no people around. A passenger
jet appears as a speck and grows into a giant. Not surprising to see
an aircraft with Newark airport and JFK nearby. But this one flies
strangely. And as it grows in size it becomes a bird of prey. My
eyes widen and a cyclone of fear spirals from my gut as I see it
zoom into… Mercifully, it ends there. I am spared the unspeakable.

The other image that I have seen is from a distance. That tower
of magnificence, in a cloud of gray and black smoke. A rumbling
sound which I feel before I hear. Then the world collapses. The walls
undulate like a sheet in the wind and the skies rain debris of
unimaginable variety. The tower slides slowly into the earth,
retreating into a subterranean abode, shedding its gray reptilian
skin as it goes.

These visions are without people. My nightmare is sparing me the
human tragedy, which is beyond what I can contemplate or express.
My heart stretches into a dry throat when I try to understand the
suffering of those gone and those left behind. I will leave that for
others with better words and better hearts and less haunted.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
The 9/11 attacks were a global state terror operation permitted by the administration of the USA, which had foreknowledge of the operation yet remained intentionally unresponsive in order to make war against Afghanistan and Iraq.
...
link

That's from this American Free Press article of December 2007.

What's been added with this latest Russian leak to Gordon Duff are a variety of important details, such as how the towers were destroyed using small nukes, and how the Israeli nuclear program relied on getting nukes from the US rather than on its own somewhat broken reactor at Dimona.

[GuyFox]

HIGHLIGHTS - to save people reading through dozens of comments

> http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05...iracy-exposed/

(Top Comments on VT):
Gordon Duff · Top Commenter
This is the first real break we have had with 9/11...where an intelligence agency has laid it all out and named names.
· 9 · May 20 at 7:21pm
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Kamaya Chauhan · New Delhi, India
Good effort Gordon Duff... This article has revealed many things which the USA citizens and the world was not knowing about. I think bad time of USA has been started. Now people are coming out with facts. Where on one side USA voices much loud about global disarmament while on the other side it is actually the factor of all the destruction done and further waiting to be. It was the state who actually supported Israel for the procurement of its nuclear weapons program and now it is having issues regarding Iran's nuclear capability. This is actually the true face of Bush administration who has always been in mouthing big things but practically he did nothing except bringing the world at dangerous edge.
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Howard Lewis · Top Commenter · University of Washington
Where did you find this stuff???
So Bush41 as Ambassador to the United Nations signed off on the original basement nuke based demolition system as installed by the team of U.S./U.S.S.R. technicians AND Bush41 acted as the kunt who provided the access by which these mininukes were loaded in WTCs I and II (and elsewhere) to obtain a state-of-the-art demolition, for the same reasons and for the same established and planned results. Building 7 appears to have used the original preset. 7's design and structure was traditional post and beam, and therefore dropped like most other condemned buildings only wired during construction. WTCs I and II were much more mass/volume efficient as cubical 'airplane wing' like structures.
By late 2000, the aluminum siding was falling off, right on schedule, and demolition bids had been submitted for the 2007 deadline, and it was time to light the sacrifice to Molloch.
Silverfish knew they had to come down. The purchase was for a long planned insurance fraud on his part, and for different major reasons for his confederates. Hundreds of billions of dollars in scrip and a deceptive and false cause for genocide and war.
Reply ·
· 6 · May 20 at 5:23pm
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South Asian Voices
Israel’s involvement in the 9/11 attacks and the possibility that it might have been a false flag operation with the objective of laying the groundwork to attack Afghanistan, Iraq and other Muslim nations are among the most popular theories which the members of 9/11 Truth Movement have proposed. It all points to Israel. The American public needs to understand that the entire history of this State is rooted in racism, terror, racial genocide, theft, and False Flag Operations. Look at the King David Hotel Bombing in Jerusalem in 1947; Deir Yassin; the Lavon Affair; Israel’s deliberate attack on the USS Liberty on June 8th, 1967; the Pollard spy case and the subsequent AIPAC, Ben-Ami, and Stewart Nozette spy cases. Your readers and viewers need regular acquaintance with a resource like Grant Smith’s The Israel Lobby Archive, for the Institute of Research: Middle Eastern Policy where these topics are concerned. This is clearly a State that would have no hesitation to pull off a False Flag operation in New York on September 11, 2011, if they felt it benefited them, as Benjamin Netanyahu himself has stated it did. He said the day after 9/11 that [where Israel's interest is concerned], “It’s very good.” He also stated that “We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq. . . . these events swung American public opinion in our favor.”
· 9 · May 20 at 11:41pm
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jake gittes (also a poster here? I think)
May 20, 2014 - 8:56 pm
This is a HUGE STORY. There seems to be a tidal wave of truth building at unprecedented levels. Combined with Kevin Barrett’s:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/19/truthseeker/
and Cara St. Louis’:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05...g-the-plank-2/
...the true enemies of humanity are in the cross-hairs and there seems to be nowhere for them to hide. These cretins deserve to be incinerated into ash like the three towers. No justice, no peace.
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Anony-Mouse (deleted)
I am not sure of the official name of this painting by Francis Bacon:


What's this? Is it a person in the electric chair, or something else?
Will 9/11 Truth ever come to that sort of extreme "end-point"?
And if so, who will get the chairs?
(Too early to answer this, but maybe not too early to ask important new questions.)

[Carmody]

(Deleted.)

Instead, a substitute post:

June 1992 interview with the late Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time.


Sarah McClendon: "What will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?

George H.W. Bush: "Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us."



Now that it is 2014 and many more a lie has been floated down the river, many millions more are dead...and countries corrupted, enslaved, destroyed...and a world damaged beyond all repair...

What say you now?

[ghostrider]

I spoke with a friend about 911 and made this statement , Who would benefit most from a world super power going full on battle with Islamic countries ??? You should have seen the lights go on in his mind ... The U.S. shrank the Islam war machine making it easier for Israel to make War against Arab countries . while the U.S. used the opportunity to pass sweeping anti-freedom laws and no one blinked ... oh we have to make you safe , we need to take your freedoms to make you safe from the boogie man ... Kinda strange that 911 happened and there has been NO other big attacks ... Norad didn't help , Spying didn't help , Drones didn't help , Intelligence didn't help , I say we no longer need the CIA , Norad , Drones , or Spying ... it's a waste of money ...

[GuyFox]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
I spoke with a friend about 911 and made this statement , Who would benefit most from a world super power going full on battle with Islamic countries ??? You should have seen the lights go on in his mind ... The U.S. shrank the Islam war machine making it easier for Israel to make War against Arab countries . while the U.S. used the opportunity to pass sweeping anti-freedom laws and no one blinked ... oh we have to make you safe , we need to take your freedoms to make you safe from the boogie man ... Kinda strange that 911 happened and there has been NO other big attacks ... Norad didn't help , Spying didn't help , Drones didn't help , Intelligence didn't help , I say we no longer need the CIA , Norad , Drones , or Spying ... it's a waste of money ...

Exactly :: Cui bono : Who Benefits ?

And in case anyone missed THIS from above, I will repeat it:



Benjamin Netanyahu himself has stated it did.
He said the day after 9/11 that [where Israel's interest is concerned],
“It’s very good.” He also stated that “We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq. . . . these events swung American public opinion in our favor.”

It is almost as if a War is being fought, and the US was tricked into supporting the wrong side. Now, years later, people are waking up - and asking the questions they should have asked back in 2001. (Meantime, we worry that the same guys may have more "tricks" up their sleeves. But we are now far better at spotting them, and disarming them before they can do damage.)

"What say you now?"

Well, maybe we should say what they say when Pubs hit closing time in Britain:
"TIME ! Gentlemen, it's Time." (to stop drinking the Kool-Aide, and believing old lies)

[GuyFox]

I think readers will like this soundbite / from Jay Widener in an interview w/ Patrick Timpone

"The only ones who call Conspiracies "theories", are the Conspirators."

Feed THAT one back into the Lamestream media shills !

[araucaria]

This theory of Israeli nukes is a very satisfying Occam’s-razor, strong adequacy type of scenario in terms of the overall picture as to the who and the why, but it needs to explain ALL the physical evidence as well. Judy Woods has a checklist of 43 items that all need accounting for. I am wondering, has all the work been done on showing how, against her own considered opinion, all of her data is explainable in terms of the nuclear devices described here? Dustification and twisted I bars perhaps, but what about (semi-)toasted cars? Fires without heat that didn’t burn paper? The undamaged bathtub? Etc etc. And perhaps most of all, how would the almost totally unreported appearance of Hurricane Erin fit in with this scenario?

[araucaria]

Posted by GuyFox (here)
I am not sure of the official name of this painting by Francis Bacon:


What's this? Is it a person in the electric chair, or something else?
Will 9/11 Truth ever come to that sort of extreme "end-point"?
And if so, who will get the chairs?
(Too early to answer this, but maybe not too early to ask important new questions.)

Bacon’s screaming pope is called Study after Velazquez's Portrait of Pope Innocent X. See here: http://fr.phaidon.com/agenda/art/art...reaming-popes/
Reference to the son-father relationship is certinaly interesting in terms of Daddy Bush and little George.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by araucaria (here)
This theory of Israeli nukes is a very satisfying Occam’s-razor, strong adequacy type of scenario in terms of the overall picture as to the who and the why, but it needs to explain ALL the physical evidence as well. Judy Woods has a checklist of 43 items that all need accounting for.

No, this theory need not explain all the damage, such as that reported by Judy Wood.

Rather clearly other, additional, means of destruction were used. Witness, for example, the two "airplane" collisions. Witness, for example, the many reports of bombs and damage in the buildings, below the point of the "airplane" collisions, all the way to the basement levels, between the time of these "airplane" collisions and the final destruction.

Rather clearly, they (whoever they are) threw a whole bunch of cr*p against the wall, to ensure the destruction of whatever they were targeting, and the confusion of, and terror in, of all surviving observers.

Keep in mind, also, that nuclear explosions produce more exotic energy effects than we serfs of public learning are told of. Judy Wood is a meticulous reporter of what she can see, and a former professor of mechanical engineering, but I've not seen good evidence that she is a strong student of the more exotic, but not for public consumption, effects of nuclear explosions. Strange effects similar to those seen by John Hutchison in his lab and shown to Judy Wood are also seen in tornado's and after atomic bomb explosions.

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We are still being played here. There is a hidden hand, behind the Bush/Cheney administration (and any other US President at least since JFK), behind the WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein, behind Marvin Bush (brother of "W" and head of WTC security in the months leading up to 9/11), behind the Nazi's, neocons, and neo-Nazi's, behind the CIA, behind Israel, behind Philip Zelikow, behind Roland Carnaby (the CIA agent handling nuclear shipments to Israel, who was assassinated in Houston), behind all the evident participants, even behind Putin and his releasing now of this intelligence report.

Putin is likely a more substantial participant in this grand game than Obama, but either of them would go the way of JFK (and so many others, both famous and anonymous) if they stepped too far out of line. Russia likely fell under the control of the hidden hand with the fall of the last Tsar, Nicholas II, in the Russian revolution of 1917.

China's willing participation in many of the grand affairs (political, monetary, economic, ...) of recent times indicates to me that they too are controlled by this hidden hand, likely since Chinese Communist leader Mao Zedong declared the creation of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) on October 1, 1949.

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Perhaps it is not just a coincidence that both the CIA and the Jesuits are known, internally to their members, as "the company". Perhaps it is of great historical significance that Pope Francis is the first Jesuit ever to sit on Saint Peter’s throne at the Vatican. Perhaps it is not an accident that the Vatican is now leading the public discussion, by high officials, of how the Church, and humanity, might engage alien life forms of high intelligence. Some lower level or now retired officials of major national governments are mentioning this, but only at the Vatican is the top man speaking openly of such, now (Pope Francis would welcome Martians to the church (May 13, 2014, RT.COM).)

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In a letter sent on November 4, 1816, from John Adams to Thomas Jefferson (they both died, several days by horseback from each other, on July 4, 1826, the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence), Adams wrote to his long standing compatriot:

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My History of the Jesuits is in four volumes in twelves, under the title of "Histoire Generate de la Naissance el des Progres de la Compagnie de Jesus, et l'Analyse de ses Constitutions et ses Privileges" printed at Amsterdam in 1761. The work is anonymous, because, as I suppose, the author was afraid, as all the monarchs of Europe were, at that time, of Jesuitical assassination. The author, however, supports his facts by authentic records and known authorities which the public may consult. This society has been a greater calamity to mankind than the French Revolution, or Napoleon's despotism or ideology. It has obstructed the progress of reformation and the improvement of the human mind in society much longer and more fatally.

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Posted by Carmody (here)
What say you now?

Go, go Tim Duncan and San Antonio !!