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    French Clairvoyant’s Perception of Reptilian Hosting
    Posted on March 13, 2013

    A French correspondent sent me an informative diagram and explanation of Reptilian and Insectoid Hosting/Influence as it appears to the French Clairvoyant, Stephane Cardineaux.

    http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/french-...ilian-hosting/

    *Note: The Insectiod is similar in appearance to one of the Horus-Ra winged beings of Dr. Malanga’s research.
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Fritz Springmeier April 9th 2014

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    OCD: The Surprising Truth


    94% of people have experienced unwanted, intrusive thoughts.


    Have you ever had a sudden impulse to jump under a train, stab your partner with a knife or perform some other unthinkable act?

    Many see these as signs of mental disturbance but, according to new research from around the world, fully 94% of people have experienced unwanted, intrusive thoughts or impulses.

    The phenomenon is not confined solely to people with obsessive-compulsive disorder and other problematic thinking patterns.

    The research comes from Concordia University in Canada and 15 other institutions in different countries, including France, Hong Kong, Sierra Leone and Australia (Moulding et al., 2014).

    They found that across 777 participants, almost all of them had experienced intrusive thoughts or images in the last three months.

    The types of strategies people used to distract themselves from these thoughts were also relatively universal:
    • People told themselves to stop,
    • they thought about something pleasant instead,
    • they reassured themselves,
    • and they reasoned with themselves.
    People who used confrontational strategies like reasoning with themselves tended to have fewer intrusive thoughts than those who used avoidant strategies, like thinking about something pleasant instead.


    Intrusive thoughts
    One of the study’s authors Adam Radomsky, explained:
    “We’re more similar than we are different.
    People with OCD and related problems are very much like everyone else.”
    He continued:
    “This study shows that it’s not the unwanted, intrusive thoughts that are the problem — it’s what you make of those thoughts.

    "And that’s at the heart of our cognitive and behavioral interventions for helping people overcome OCD.
    "For instance, most people who have an intrusive thought about jumping off a balcony or a metro platform would tell themselves that it’s a strange or silly thing to think, whereas a person with OCD may worry that the thought means they’re suicidal.

    "OCD patients experience these thoughts more often and are more upset by them, but the thoughts themselves seem to be indistinguishable from those occurring in the general population.”
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    From Fritz Springmeier's facebook page...

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    THE KING OF THE WORLD ANALYZED
    April 25, 2014

    THE KING OF THE WORLD ANALYZED. This post is the worldwide outcoming of the man behind the curtain, Mr. William Cornelius Van Duyn (bn. 1963). He is a leader of unusual accomplishment, outgoing & friendly; his close associates are loyal and love to be with him. He dislikes racism & criminal activity. The list of criminal bankers who have departed us is evidence of his dislike of criminals, esp. the banksters who have been above the law. He came from a privileged world, but is a progressive liberal who hopes to make people’s lives better. He is concerned about the youth because they are the future and would like to find solutions for helping the next generation. (That is those who care about themselves. And I can testify there are still some outstanding young people.) His approach is unique compared to previous similar leaders, but philosophically has some resemblance to the ideas of Adam Weishaupt. So the modern Illuminati has returned to philosophy & ditched the satanic witchcraft. (The world is still left w/ plenty of unaffiliated covens.)

    As an aside, Mr. Van Duyn’s ancestor, Jan Cornelis Van Duyn married Nanette Weishaupt (1790-1853), whose mother Anna Maria Sausenhofer Weishaupt has her ashes and gravestone near Nanette’s. Adam Weishaupt (1748-1830) had a large family (in contrast w/ the Internet which says he had no children)…he had 3 sons who became officers: Eduard (Oberstleutnant), Ernst (Generalleutnant der Artillerie), Karl (General), as well as Alfred von Weishaupt, and Wilhelm. Adam Weishaupt was a German philosopher who prolifically wrote at least 17 major philosophical works, something not well known in this country.

    The following analysis is based solely on the handwriting using scientific based analysis to get an unbiased view of someone’s character. The handwriting samples I used would generate the same analysis no matter who gave them to me. If something is not mentioned, it usually means it was not there in the handwriting to attract attention. An analysis is technically a snapshot of the mind’s thinking at the time of the writing sample. It has general validity because people do not generally change their personalities, but are the same from day to day. [Comments not based on the handwriting are in brackets.]

    THE WAY MR. VAN DUYN INSPIRES. He enjoys being around others, sharing in their joys & sorrows, & making make new friends. Boredom is not part of his life; he’s a picture of enthusiasm. He enjoys life, & never seems to lose his childlike curiosity for things around him. It is rare for him not to start the day with a lively mood. Unless circumstances are overly dismal, he sings his way thru life. He’s generous & people oriented, & trusts those near him. He’s a genuine person.

    THE WAY HE SOLVES PROBLEMS. He desires change. He is not afraid to face problems & try to resolve them. He moves from job to job, & task to task w/ ease. He is easily inspired to start new plans & projects. With his boundless energy, he often carries others along with him. He generally sets reachable goals. He places all personal freedoms before safety of self & property. For him, the only security is the freedom to express his feelings & abilities. And yet he is a team player & objective in listening to other’s opinions, and is not narrow minded. On the flip side, his agile mind can communicate easily. Should things not work out as planned, he can flexibly switch to another plan of action. He’s innovative, & adapts to new situations w/out losing his equilibrium.

    THE WAY MR. VAN DUYN THINKS. He enjoys life, and lifts people’s spirits. He is not motivated by the kind of security that social standards normally have in place. He views this as a type of confinement rather than a source of protection. [Given the privileges of his status, security issues are taken care of. But he himself is content with a humble life. He has friends who don’t have a clue about who he really is.] Nor is he concerned with financial security. [The Van Duyn fortune is reportedly a mere $115 billion, the Rothschild’s $156 billion, give, I’m sure, a few dollars either way. With a portfolio of $50 billion, he bought shares in CBS, Time Warner, Comcast, Walt Disney, Facebook, Twitter, and other names you may recognize.] He resists being bound by structures. For instance, his home is his castle, but the building is not. Home to Mr. Van Duyn is himself & the people he allows to intimately visit him. [I am reminded that he recently had world leaders over incl. Lord Charles Jacobus Rothschild & Lady and Barak & Michele Obama.] He has a tender compassionate heart; indeed his heart rules over his head. [I am reminded of him talking to people in the street in casual clothes hearing their problems w/out them suspecting who they were talking to…and financing medical teams to help people in need, & setting up a soup kitchen, and all this done anonymously.] His love for people is invariably returned. At times, his sudden changes in emotion startles people who don’t realize he is simply responding to those around him. In fact, his warm nature can switch to spontaneous anger. [He is the boss with his subordinates. Or as his aide said, “He rules.”] But there are no signs of violence. He appreciates abstract ideas, & is fascinated by both little & big things. His ideas & interests are diversified. His knowledge base is practical rather than in-depth, so he depends upon the opinions of others, although at times he’ll prefer to investigate for himself. He likes to keep himself busy & his calendar full. He has a wholesome adjustment to life.

    THE WAY HE LEADS. He is quick to make an appraisal & quick in an emergency. The word “dynamic” comes to mind. He has a poise, dignity & self-assurance. He knows he is important & worthy of attention. He appreciates the importance of his work. [For instance, a portfolio of $15 billion was created with the Melinda & Bill Gates Foundation to control famine, disease & health care. And another foundation received $21 billion to create better education worldwide.] Actually part of his sense of personal worth is based on the knowledge that he lines up in thoughts & actions to the set of standards he has adopted as his pattern for living. He is both spontaneous & flexible, yet adheres to what he believes. He’s responsible & sincere. His creativity plays a role in his leadership also. [His subordinate said, “Momentous ideas are continuously flowing thru his mind.” The handwriting validates that.] He has the ability to provide leadership without the quest for power.
    THIS IS MY OUTCOMING ARTICLE ON WILLIAM C. VAN DUYN. PERMISSION WAS GIVEN FOR ME TO POST THESE 2 PHOTOS.




    PROFOUND NEW APPROACH
    April 26, 2014

    PROFOUND NEW APPROACH. This post is a clarification of what happened yesterday in regards to my pursuit of information on the Illuminati. In line with their own discussions to be more open, they have decided to make me their choice of persons to do that. As of yesterday April 27, 2014, with their permission, I will be granted certain documents & answers to my questions. At this time, their information agreement is exclusively to me. For years, I have relentlessly pursued an understanding of these people, and as they know, took great risk to do it. They acknowledged to me that risk, as well as their admiration that I was fearless. I think they also realize that I move forward with love in my heart, not malice, and hope the best for everyone.

    THEIR OPENESS DOES NOT CHANGE WHO I AM AS A PERSON. They know my position as a Christian. They probably know it as well as myself, because they acknowledge studying my entire background, even the spook files on me; and as long time readers know just from reading my posts, I love my Lord Jesus Christ (or as I prefer, Yahshua ha Messiach). I will continue to pray and serve Him, for Christ is my life. This new role as a conduit of information to the public is simply a shift in how the info is obtained…now it will be obtained with permission. I am very thankful for the example of Daniel in the Scripture…giving me some wise direction on how to proceed when the King gives you favor. Again, we have the example of Joseph, who after suffering in prison was given favor. A number of you have begun to notice that these elite are personally watching you…personally watching all of us. They have to make decisions. And now I speak simply from my own observations, and from what I observed before they started this new openness…to point out that all “wacko religious fundamentalists” (I use the term from a worldly perspective) are seen as people who can’t be reasoned with who cause trouble. So I have no doubt they look at us and wonder…just like the King of Babylon with Daniel’s strange eating & praying habits. They wonder and watch. And we have a responsibility, because our own Lord will also be our Judge, of every idle word we say and idle attitude we cop.

    LOVE & RESPECT. One thing life & Scripture repeatedly teach me is that agape love & respect accomplish more benefits than an adversarial relationship with hate, distrust & disrespect. Anyone who has been in a relationship should know this. I can see that some people prefer hate, distrust & disrespect…and will reject me because I don’t want to go there with them. That is their choice. I know I am on Scriptural ground to move forward in agape love which itself automatically comes with respect. You can accept that or reject me, God grants you the choice.

    CONCERNS. Many good hearted people have concerns for this world. You want your concerns addressed. The people who God led in the Exodus under the leadership of Moses had concerns. It is one thing to have concerns…it is another to have a grumbling complaining attitude. Go back & study that historical exodus. Some of their concerns were legit—BUT God did not tolerate their bad attitudes at all. He came down very hard on their bad attitudes of complaining. Ester had big concerns, but she was wise in her approach. People with power are still people. Put yourself in their shoes and see what they deal with, and what must go on in their minds. There are wise approaches to those in power, and there are whiny complaining approaches that will even tick God off!

    WORDS LIKE “HOLIER THAN THOU” & “SUCCESS” DON’T APPEAR in the NT SCRIPTURE. If we are sensitive to the Spirit, we learn that what is sacred (a synonym for holy) is important to God, not our worldly success. If we pay attention, we realize that being in the Kingdom of God means coming under His rulership…”Obey what I command you today.” EX 34:10-11. Perhaps my favorite verses along this line are: “…fulfill my joy by being like-minded…Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus…” PHL 2:2-5 And on that thought I will end this post.
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    Interesting turn of things...

    First, a different take on Fritz Springmeier:

    Has Fritz Springmeier Been Turned?

    May 8, 2014

    (Fritz Springmeier present, left, and past, right)

    The question is inspired by a recent post by Fritz which presents the Rothschilds in a favorable light and contradicts his previous writing.

    Springmeier has gone from exposing the Illuminati to disseminating their propaganda.

    Fritz quotes Illuminati honcho William C Van Duyn as combating terrorism. The Illuminati organizes and finances terrorism.

    [...]

    Full article and comments: http://henrymakow.com/2014/05/is-fri...a-doppelg.html

    **************************************************************

    Then, another damage-control measure on shutting up "disagreeing containers":



    Decline of religious belief means we need more exorcists, say Catholics


    Decline of religion in the West has created a rise in black magic, Satanism and the occult


    Photo: Alamy (file photo: llustration by George Cruikshank to the poem A Lay of St. Nicholas)
    By Nick Squires, Rome, 7:14PM BST 08 May 2014

    The decline of religious belief in the West and the growth of secularism has “opened the window” to black magic, Satanism and belief in the occult, the organisers of a conference on exorcism have said.

    The six-day meeting in Rome aims to train about 200 Roman Catholic priests from more than 30 countries in how to cast out evil from people who believe themselves to be in thrall to the Devil.

    The conference, “Exorcism and Prayers of Liberation”, has also attracted psychiatrists, sociologists, doctors and criminologists in what the Church called a “multi-disciplinary” approach to exorcisms.

    Giuseppe Ferrari, from GRIS, a Catholic research group that organised the conference, said there was an ever growing need for priests to be trained to perform exorcisms because of the increasing number of lay people tempted to dabble in black magic, paganism and the occult.

    “We live in a disenchanted society, a secularised world that thought it was being emancipated, but where religion is being thrown out, the window is being opened to superstition and irrationality,” said Mr Ferrari.

    The abandonment of religion “inevitably leads people to ask questions about the existence of evil and its origins”, he told Adnkronos, an Italian news agency.

    About 250 priests were trained as exorcists in Italy, but many more were needed, the conference organisers claimed.

    “Just in the dioceses of Rome, around a third of calls that are received are requests for the services of an exorcist,” said Fr Cesar Truqui, a priest and exorcist from Switzerland and a member of the Legionaries of Christ, a conservative Catholic order.

    In the popular imagination, exorcisms evoke images of black-clad priests holding aloft silver crucifixes while trying to rid frothing, wild-eyed victims of Satanic possession.

    The Church tries to play down the more lurid associations but at the same time insists that the Devil exists and must be fought on a daily basis.

    “Exploring the theme of demonic possession does not mean causing general paranoia, but creating awareness of the existence of the Devil and of the possibility of possession,” Fr Truqui told Vatican Radio. “It happens rarely but you can fight it with God, with prayer, with Marian devotion.”

    Demonic possession manifests itself in people babbling in foreign languages, shaking uncontrollably and vomiting nails, pieces of metal and shards of glass, according to those who believe in the phenomenon.

    Those thought to be possessed are supposed to undergo the official Catholic rite of exorcism, which involves a consecrated priest invoking the name of God, as well as various saints, to cast out their demons.

    Pope Francis has frequently alluded to the Devil in his homilies and addresses since being elected to succeed Benedict XVI last March.

    In a homily this week, he said that the Devil was behind the persecution of early Christian martyrs, who were murdered for their faith. The “struggle between God and the Devil” was constant and ongoing, he said.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Interesting turn of things...
    Yep and the man behind the curtain mentioned by FS has now his own twitter account
    https://twitter.com/WilliamVanDuyn
    along with Bilderberg
    https://twitter.com/Bilderberg_2014
    http://bilderbergmeetings.org/index.php
    and the C. J. Rothschild is liking FS posts on his facebook account https://www.facebook.com/fritz.sprin...f=ts&ref=br_tf

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    FS replies to charges http://henrymakow.com/2014/05/fritz-...eplies-to.html
    and W.C. Van Duyn (https://twitter.com/WilliamVanDuyn) "really enjoyed" FS' latest interview
    http://t.co/1vbGyYudv5

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    The Archons are just one family of beings that contract to have experience here within this multi purpose bio energy garden oasis. As it turns out they have a habit of inhabiting the rulers and this has led some to argue enough is enough because of the monopoly of the position. It is coming to an end as I understand it but by the owners, the originators of the garden that have final say over all that goes on here as well as in other gardens of their design. Earth is just the first as I understand it. It has been tweaked and tuned as well as the ongoing experimenting with those agreeing to such an arrangement while having the experience within a vessel here. I have written much of this on other sites, and my blogger. The Archons are light beings of awareness no different than any of the other beings having contractual agreed to experiences here. Of the many various types and characters of beings that incarnate here to experience the organic bio energy exchange all get so attached to the vessel and so ingrained in the ego and the posturing that goes along with it that they cannot rise above that to actually see this bigger picture. It requires death and separating from the body to see it and realize you are not human. Human is the experience and the body shell, and the experience are agreed to as are other agreements with other members of your own family units. Something, ancient priest hood practiced by OBE experiences induced through various tried and true methods with the help of those very membes of their families on the other side that aided them. What they saw is much the same as my own visions and flashes after my near death experiences as well as before through various experiences I have had myself in high strangeness since that time.

    I think a lot of misconceptions exist about the contractual agreements for organic vessel experiences within this garden. These agreements are multi fold and encompass parameters and designs of the experience mapped out for each being that contracts with the originator species of this garden.

    Let me be clear. Many of the so called sightings of reptiles and other figures are are often sightings of the soul entity actually having the observational and experiential human experience they leased to experience. That means this is a sanctioned contracted experience and no different than yours. This attachment is from within, the body is not something you are attached to, it is you created by you to wear until you no longer need it when it will be gladly discarded no differently than a dirty sock at the end of the day before relaxing! There are many beings that contract for a experiential vessel for the energies produced in this oasis called earth. The idea that these are some alien is something introduced by those that do not fully see enough of the bigger picture to know that this garden, like all energy producing gardens of this type are set up and used by all of us, let me say that again, ALL OF US no matter the species for what we gain from it. What we gain is a lot. The gardens are the neutral zones that all species have common ground interest in due to the fact that these are energy flavor centers of great delight to all souls period end of story! You behave here because you need it and crave it, Archons included! Regardless of how sinister it looks here it isn't really seen that way by any of us as the light beings we truly are. Its not seen as real other than the experience and the energy it can produce which is very real.

    Not only do we get to experience a new life forgetting entirely what was just experienced the last time (until we rejoin our collective self) we get to share in the energies and exchanges that take place here but we contract also with our own family groups of various like interest souls, all watching out for each other from life to life, and at various contracted and agreed to times within the experience itself come in to aid if needed, redirect life path at the right times, heal or any other agreed to terms that one made before waking as a babe all over again to begin the experience. This could even involve pain and hard lessons often brought about by your own loved ones, not some evil at all. The often seen alien grays in bedrooms hovering over bodies are actually the souls having the experience not some visitor. This is like the residual self image of you in your real selves for all of that family.

    In yet other families they are mantid looking, while in others they look reptile, and yet others Nordic and still others hairy big foot, yeti, wookie beings. All images gleamed by those with the extra range visions or glimpses of better views of those ranges as various electro magnetic differences occur throughout the planet in its rotation. In each of these family groups, soul contracts have been made. When you are here in the body having the vessel experience no matter which species it may be that you choose, you have those on the other side that while aiding you, gain from the bio energies you produce during the experience here. During their time in the body by this same agreement you do this for them, gaining from their energies from emotions produced in this environment called earth.

    Some of these groups have arranged consensual agreements with that part of oneself that does remember the real and that agreement includes abduction and experimentation while in the vessel. This type of experimentation based on my glimpses of what is taking place on these ships is mostly geared toward maximizing the energies produced from the experience tho and ultimately helps everyone that finds the energies of this garden environment so appealing. This garden is a bio energy oasis. Most everyone having an experience here has already agreed to what goes on with them by taking part in the experience and they agreed on multi levels and likely with various other beings within their own family and friend units. Units which likely have shared and crossed meeting briefly and/or for whole life periods of experience in many other life times within a physical organic vessel experience. This energy is its primary 'garden produce' to be perfectly honest with you. Those big devices that come down on you during abductions when laying on a table full of shock are actually devices to collect, monitor and compare the bio energy generated by emotional outbursts repeated over time the same way after various tweaks to your vessel have been made to make you 'put out more' when you scream from various emotional triggers to your bio system! Again, all consensual and agreed to by you in advance and geared toward increasing the efficiency of the experience even if you don't remember in the ego persona mask of this experience that this is so.

    The truth of the matter is the ego self in this vessel for each of us cannot even discern when the soul that actually animates the body has been replaced. One may feel an undefined difference and it may even be noticed quite visibly outwardly with physical changes but within the contract often walk in experiences with those very family members can also be arranged. This means that at some point, say mid way through the organic experience the original soul occupying the body is extracted by the originator species in control of the garden experiences and contracts. This soul is then placed in another vessel or the contract ends for that being and it steps out to rejoin and remember all the collected and gained experiences of each ego manifestation. In the mean time the other soul is placed within the vessel once occupied by the first soul. On the earth plane strong changes can be noted here also, as in the Charlie Sheen case much published on the mass media when his exchange took place. Strange but true believe it or not! Cue Twilight Zone theme here>.......Similarly even if you are contacting souls on the other side, and even if those of your own family it is worth noting that the agenda of the garden and producing this energy will always trump any other promises made or true insights gained so much of it can be deception again to increase the energy, to hell with the truth or being honest with you about their identity or anything else. The agenda to produce will always outweigh and trump all other needs. This is why John Smith, Applewhite, Jim Jones, and all others are led astray ultimately and while seemingly negative from this side as the mask we wear it appears vile, even evil it is actually a grand success for massive energies of the very important source of product we all come here for.

    Groups of souls (orbs) follow wolf packs to feast off the bio energies produced from the fight or flight of the prey, the attack of the wolves, and the entire thing feeds and makes energies that are exchanged in much more, much higher layered levels and ways by beings seen and unseen that feed from it to gain energy to live. I have witnessed it in schools of fish, birds, cats hunting mice and rats, and more. Orbs follow and feed off all energy produced in this garden from the staple lightning and I see them feeding off of storm clouds in Oklahoma often and running water current produced to that produced by the organic life forms all over the planet. They (orbs) like areas where running water splits into two and there is an island in the middle of two streams. Camp out in one of those island areas between two running streams I dare you! You will see flashes all night long and wonder WTF especially if you are a sensitive. Scavengers exist in all forms in all gardens also and these will show up at seances and the like, deceiving and pretending, playing with your emotions. Gee wonder why?While some resemble small ugly creatures like those seen in horror movies others are more reptile looking and I believe all of them are attached or hover near individuals that for whatever purpose they have aligned with and this is not uncommon or unusual for any of us to have this company at times in our lives..

    I believe at times that we are attached to. We have our visitors of course but some stick by second and even third beings tho attached to the same body and that the body can actually get by with this even if it brings symptoms of flu, aches, pains and what not in time. Usually it is a weak family member feeding to gain energy to recover and again something likely agreed to. If this is the case simply asking them to please detach will in short order relieve your symptoms and you will know exactly what I mean. Being family of course they will retreat. Ancients called them guardian angels. I think we guard each other tho. That is why you allow it to the point you would weaken yourself.

    I think I know now why many of the guardians appear as scary forms, you know them in the form of Gargoyles and other such creatures because these are about what I see at times around some people. Fierce looking I believe tho, that it is the image of the soul having the organic experience, perhaps an Archon. Not some evil attachment and I say that because when a child appears as the father both in spirit and in physical form it says to me this is a family having an experience no different than mine. We are the orb light beings, and at this time we just have a shell or vessel to experience in. At the same time orb beings of light and awareness hover around each of us. I have noted, especially when we lived in Arizona that orbs seem to prefer certain types of rock. I have seen them apparently fly out of some and usually, at least in Arizona and New Mexico, Utah and Colorado where we lived there in four corners these rocks where I saw orbs going in and out of were ones with drawings on them by Natives from earlier times. This told me they also witnessed exactly what I see and it confirmed for me what I see as to where they are originating, or at least where some reside. If the pictographic evidence is any indication it says they have been residing there for perhaps thousands of years. These orbs, light beings of awareness could just as easily be any one of us at any given time once we leave these vessels. I assure you this does not make us sinister.
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    To bring this thread back to where it was prior to the last post...

    I have been looking at this seemingly strange "turn of things." I can only speak for the way I see things.

    On one hand most of us that follow this thread are likely of the opinion there has been a group within the whole of earth's 3D population who do not have the best interests of us all (especially 'the all' from the point of view of those who are not insiders in this group) in mind. So when those who see themselves not of this group are talking of this group, there is a clear understanding that there is an "us and them."

    From an idealistic view, I like to see all creatures of creation as part of a single, grand "us."

    Can both of these views coexist? This is the view I perceive is now the view of Fritz Springmeier.

    So if we consider he has been "compromised" then we must be saying this from the point of view of the us/them dynamic.

    If we consider he may be "taking the high road" (which is the view I prefer to take) then he remains someone to be taken seriously and who provides information which we should pay attention to.

    Ultimately we all make up our own minds.

    I want solutions. I desire solutions. I focus on how solutions can be achieved that benefit us all. I would love it if as generations come forth, aberrations get weeded out naturally. But all these wants, dreams, desires don't necessarily make them happen.

    On a different note, I am adverse to religion. But as Houman once pointed out, if someone found solace and refuge in Christianity when for all of their prior life they were consumed by Satanism, is that really such a bad thing? I would think not. So along those lines I also do not think its wise that I dismiss Fritz Springmeier just because he happens to be a devout Christian.

    Why is it beyond possibility a high level Earth born Illuminati bloodline family member could be an ally to the rest of humanity (and to all creatures of creation for that matter)?

    Don't take my questions to mean I have these answers but something inside me suggests these questions are very important for all of us who are at these levels of awareness of the actual workings of the Earth drama 2014 as our views are foundational to our being and our being shapes the direction of the planet.
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    I guess that you can look at it from the point of view of Game Theory with more than 2 players in the game. If a "house divided against itself cannot stand", perhaps the same principle applies to "humanity" involved in a game with negatively oriented non-human entities. So from the point of view of Game Theory it is in the interest of all human parties to reach some level of win-win cooperation rather than a lose-lose mutual destruction.

    Now this being said, Monsanto is still around, babies are still being injected with neurotoxins, we are all breathing and drinking aluminum and fluoride, SRA are still going on, the focus of the mainstream media remains on debasement and perversion rather than elevation, children are still dying or becoming orphans through engineered wars, the technology that could liberate humankind from serfdom is still kept under seal...

    Therefore "only by their actions we will know them": if the people who are in contact with FS are really at the top of the pyramid, if they have the power that goes with it, and if they have the degree of benevolence of a Cyrus (who btw was not a pagan king, quite the opposite, but this is another story) then we will see it through their actions and not their words (it is simple logic).

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    The first MKultra - Shirley Temple Black (notice the name), deeply involved in the dark side of Holywood, constantly perpetrated by Pedophiles.

    The 40's movie 'War Babies' - features highly sexualized young children under the age of five, be warned about the contents.


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    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wi...nelis_Van_Duyn

    User:William Cornelis Van Duyn
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    William Cornelis Van Duyn (20 May 1963), known as William is a Belgian Philanthropist [1] and since 2009 he is the head of the Illuminati [2].
    Personal Life

    Van Duyn was born in 1963 in Brussels [3]. He is the first of two children born to Gerret Cornelis Van Duyn [4] and Renate Oppenheimer-Schmidt[5]. He has a younger sister married to a Dutch Business man. She lives with her husband and the two children in London. Van Duyn attented the Jesuit college in Brussels. He graduate at the College Saint Michel [6]. After the mandatory Military service in Belgium, Van Duyn earned 1987 a barchelor's degree in politology and in 1989 a MBA in economic at the university of the city of Cologne (Germany)
    Career

    Van Duyn began his career in 1990 as a financial consultant at the DeBeLux ( German-Belgian-Luxemburg Chamber of commerce in Brussels) before joining the United Nations in 1993. In 1994 he attended for the first time the Bilderberg Meeting in Helsinki (Finnland). David Rockefeller and later Viscount Etienne Davignon mentored the young Van Duyn for his personal development.


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    William Van Duyn, head of Illuminati toasts 60 yr. anniversary of Bilderberg Mtgs. Posted by admin@fritz on May 31st, 2014

    ANOTHER SPEECH BY MR. VAN DUYN. (I believe this was delivered earlier on 30 May in a relaxed atmosphere where William Van Duyn toasts the 60th anniversary of the Bilderberg Meetings.)

    Your Majesty, Your Royal Highness, Distinguished Guests, Ladies and Gentlemen,
    I would like to thank the conference organizers Henry de Castries and Viscount Etienne Davignon for having invited me to address the Bilderberg’s Birthday Wishes to you during this dinner speech.

    If I present you a couple of thoughts during my speech, this is probably my virtue of my double hat, as we say in Dutch. I will be not too serious! I promise…

    Culture and economical creativity play a key role in the Bilderberg’s development, and raise the profile of people and their respectful identity.

    The impact of the cultural creativity must be stable in terms of unconventional economic growth. By deeper value, which I mean to support the creativity of societies, and the encouragement of the unique identity in different societies where culture flourishes with improvements in the quality of life.

    Google, Facebook, Twitter, Sound Clouds and different Blogs created by genius young/old people are the most important tools who helped them to communicate with their audience from different countries and different social level. People speak, people sing, they shout out loud! They talk, they communicate their happiness, their new love, their sorrow but most important their hate, their angriness and the injustice of life. People are afraid about the uncertainty in their life. We need to give them security and vision!

    I fully understand them. I remember myself as a child when the father of Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrix, came to my parents’ house. Bernhard, as I was allowed to call him, was a man with a tremendous personality. He knew how to initiate a conversation, to dare people out of their corners, perhaps also to shock them but he involved everyone around him with his ideas and his visions and certainly with his personality. And this before the time of the Internet.

    Thanks to him Bilderberg was born. My visions are the same like his. This is why I highlight the need for an integrated approach to support the young generation and to open the Bilderberg to the public. The anonymous generation! I want their voices raised, I want to work with them, to build a better society for them and with them, a future for all of us.

    A society when children’s children will be proud of their parents. We can offer them a solution in times of economic growth and giving them the security to build a good life.

    Google offers a diversity in services to create a new and better world. (I know Eric, you just lost a case at the European Community, but this might be also a positive sign for the data privacy of its consumers)
    Facebook is blue like IBM’s Watson but not so clever. People use Facebook to create groups, pages, to post some pictures about culture, families and events. Promoters are strongly using Facebook to share their events.

    Twitter is also a great tool, turn around, look outside and you can be sure there will be some selfies made by so called journalists with your smile in the background.

    Your Majesty, may I humbly consider you do NOT look outside!
    I know Viscount Davignon loves to get pictured. I confess, I ask someone to post your picture on Facebook. I can finally „like” you. (If someone of you want the link, I will give it later)

    Bilderberg, this year is your 60th birthday you old thing!

    You’ve grown mature as the most of us here in this room. (Can’t speak about me and maturity!)
    You’ve been loved but mostly hated by those who didn’t understand you. You changed the world, you did mistakes but with the years you learned to be less pessimistic. Your intriguing attitude made the people talking about you like you were a movie star, and for others like a dictator. Something lost, something gained.

    Bilderberg you brought stability in the last 6 decades. You finished the cold war, you solved the oil crises, you initiated the geographical changes, you heard about the political scandals (I ask myself if you’ve even been involved???), the heads of states changed, the money currency disappeared or got replaced, but in the end you survived all of them, you watched them, you sat in silence and kept quiet. You guided the world!
    How many times when they said: Bilderberg will die soon!!! You saw it all come, you are still here and now you smile.

    I hope we the steering committee will continue the good work of what you created.
    We’re here to change the world in a better place for the future generation.

    Your Majesty, Your Royal Highness, Ladies and Gentlemen, Please raise your glasses in honor of Bilderberg’s 60th Birthday.




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    William C. Van Duyn’s Opening Remarks Bilderberg Mtg. 2014Posted by admin@fritz on May 30th, 2014

    Fritz,
    This is a first step in my life. I know that my decision is right to send you my speech. I have this urge to open the whole system, and to show the openness. It will take some years to make the population understand…
    It is a premiere for you too. I wish you good luck and strength. You’re a man of courage.
    W.

    WILLIAM VAN DUYN’S OPENING REMARKS TO THE BILDERBERG MEETING 2014
    Ladies and gentlemen,
    Let me welcome you at the 60nd edition of the Bilderberg meeting here in Copenhagen..
    Since the creation of the Bilderberg meeting back in 1954, my father [William Gerrit Van Duyn], HRH Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld, Henry Kissinger, decided to organize an event to unite different entities from industry, politics and culture. After the fourth Meeting back in 1958, the Bilderberg members put together the conditions of the Treaty of Rome. It was finally signed and the European Community was born with 6 States members. Today the European Community contents 28 countries. And today the Bilderbergers advise 134 states members.

    Today, my speech will be officially published by our new enemy : the Media.
    Bilderberg isn´t a secret society, never was. Perhaps in the eyes of the population, but what we did is we kept our topics and decision to ourselves. We are not an evil. I do not have an all-seeing eye. My ancestors only made sure the Eye is on the [U.S.] dollar bill.

    Bilderberg is no conspiracy, but people and conspiracists with their infantile fantasies see it as such. None of you, and I don’t care how powerful you are, sit around the table in a dark room, holding hands, staring at a crystal ball, planning the world´s future.

    The exuberant myth created by conspiracy theorists, journalists, and media moguls has been fabricated about the image of the Bilderberg. But are they really the cause of our consequences? Didn’t we involve ourselves into this luxurious secretive, mystical image? Going back in time, I am today in conversation with a certain controversial researcher who studied the Illuminati for more than 2 decades [Fritz Springmeier]. I respect this gentleman for his courage and vision.
    I want to change history.

    I do believe that mankind has a right to their future. The population is frustrated, manipulated, and demoralized by their own leaders. They live in their own Cartesian fantasies with the hope God will sent a messiah to save their soul! God has other plans with humanity. He creates the balance between good and evil.

    Time changes: and I am glad to feel those changes. I feel a general awareness and singularities of awaken ones….People are beginning to ask me the good questions. Their main question is „what is right?” It´s a phenomenon of response and reaction to an overly felt perception that the entire world is doomed to catastrophe, poverty, injustice and misery.

    What makes the Bilderberg so strong?
    It is because of its perseverance. Members are coming and leaving, guests come and go but the system grows stronger and stronger. No president, no king, no dictator, nor prime minister dares to criticize my name nor the Bilderbergers, and they know they are the puppets of the powerful Illuminati working from behind the scenes.

    The general economy is collapsing. People are grasped by something they don’t always understand. But, it forces them to act in a blind way for their own interest.

    That’s what they are doing in major countries and certainly in the United States: the anthropic country! Hillary Clinton told me yesterday it´s like a streaming movement came upon America and washed its pride away. As people realise that their existence is threatened, they pray to God, blame their government, the Bilderbergers and the King of Satan called the Illuminati.

    At the recent Council on Foreign Relations speech in Brussels a few days ago, I warned that a “global population awareness,” was threatening a revolution towards their governments.

    You come from very different ideological, economic, cultural and political backgrounds. What unites us is that we are all determined to find the solution for humanity and its humankind.

    And those who work for their own greediness, success and hunger for fame, who have sold their nations like the Bushs, Mugabe, Orban, Al-Bashir, Kim Jong-Un, are traitors. Not only traitors of their people and their nations, but for humanity as a whole entity.

    The subject of this Bilderberg meeting is the One World Government..
    Seven years ago the economy of Europe almost collapsed. It wasn’t because of the Europe’s weak economy. It came right to us from the United States of America with their unstable banking system.

    The bursting of the U.S. housing bubbles which peaked in 2006 caused the values of securities tied to U.S. real estate pricing to plummet, damaging financial institutions globally without mentioning the national debts. World economy crisis because of American housing? Because of their gluttony? Does the rest of the world economy need to rely on US economy?

    Another key is implemented in the United States: a universal principle of welfare on which the United States is based. But welfare does not mean a useless bum sitting on the couch, eating a pizza, slobbering the beer over himself, watching television, while he/she is waiting for an unemployment check to arrive.

    Please ask an average man the intention of the existence of humans, or of government? Would his/her answer be to provide for the general welfare of future generations of mankind? I don’t think so.

    People want a Nation, an Empire. Educate the people that is what they want: globalization. People believe that in order to have an Empire, you need money. But money is not a result of wealth. The economy is not based on money but on production and innovation. Money does not make the world go around. Money has no value. When families are harvesting their own vegetables and fruits in their garden they have more value and real money.

    Human Mind Control. Human Minds affect the planet. This is how it is measured. It means immortality for the Soul of humankind. We are able to enjoy the universal principles. It allows people to innovate, to believe, and to harmonize the relation between man and nature. Human are destroying their own life on purpose by their hunger for higher living standards. They are digging their own grave pushed by their own debts. If humanity doesn’t change its attitude, 35% of the population will be wiped out. They destroy their own creative power with no reason.

    Population blamed on the depression. But the 2008 depression was not an event that wiped out the world capitalists. It was meant to make the world population aware of their greediness and laziness in their life, to let them face the spectacle of poverty. They blame the banks, the governments, and all of us.

    Let’s give them what they want:
    Why don’t we give them the right of ruling the nature of economy, social welfare, the game of the wars and the innovation of the future…. The Greeks are blowing the European system with their unpayable debts. The French are voting the Front National to rescue the French patriotism. The Italians are Italians. I do not ask you to be too emotional, we’re not Spanish. I even don’t want to go the direction of Eastern Europe, Russia nor Asia.
    And then comes Brussels and the European Community. Let’s fire them all. Those horrible useless people, sitting in nice conference room, kick out Herman Van Rompuy (sorry Herman) but he is useless. Brussels the evil city of the world ruled by the Illuminati.
    Washington, those wet rags…fighting between dumb Republicans with their belief in guns and gospels against the stupid Democrats with their socialism ideology following the rules of Lenin. Ask a Republican redneck the difference between socialism and facism or the democrats about guns and gospel….. Does the government even know about the needs of its citizens? Do they know about the middle class and its poverty? Are they aware about the lack of education of its citizens? The truth behind the abomination of the health system? We need to resolve the American problem for its population. With a stronger America we will be able to influence the world economy in the right direction for humanitarian purposes. We will have a better understanding in the Asian Market. Guns, gospels, and socialism will not help them. Each single American has to do it by him/herself.

    Population will rule perfectly the world for the greater good of Humanity!

    I am talking about morality, and not scientific nor economic problems. Do people think about their future in 10 years? What kind of future will they have in 5 decades? Do they have a right to dream? Who are the bad guys here?

    I told myself all humanity must be saved. But is it really possible? The brutality in humanity only waits for the courageous and the sane human to perfect the concept of nations. I believe in the fraternity of Nations. But at the moment governments are ruling by their own personal political agendas manipulated by the interest of the industries either to solve the problems in their countries.

    It is the duty of the Illuminati to control every movement within any government, to provide security to its population, therefore we create the rules, we decide about nations policy. The Bilderberg needs to guide the economic factors in the right direction and build trust within the population!

    I refuse any secrecy of decisions made by us. Why should we continue to rule the system behind closed doors? Why wouldn’t we face the population with their own mirror and tell them: Hey! Wake up….
    Bilderberg Meeting is tool of the Illuminati. It runs because of the Illuminati. Bilderberg is the strongest and most powerful association, the perfect concept for sound economic security, by keeping the world order in shape, and the initiator of mankind in the age of reason.

    I want this Bilderberg to be the first meeting in a new direction providing openness to the population in regard and respect for the future generations.

    Next year positive results will show to the world that we aren’t evil, but we help humanity because humanity isn’t able to rescue itself.

    Positive Diversity is the only hallmark of progress with an insurance policy for the population.
    [END OF SPEECH as it was sent to me.]

    Note: After I posted this, I discovered that some corrections had been made and sent to me. Mr. Van Duyn realized that it was the 60th not 62nd meeting. He had been thinking of something else when he first wrote the number down. It was late in the evening when I got home & posted this, & I didn’t realize some corrections had been sent to me. When I did see it, that was a big enough change to warrant me correcting it immediately.


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    BILDERBERG 2014 FINAL OFFICIAL GUEST LIST & AGENDAPosted by admin@fritz on May 29th, 2014

    BILDERBERG MEETING 2014 FINAL OFFICIAL LISTS OF TOPICS & GUESTS

    Fritz, May I kindly ask not to publish those below information before May 29th 15:00 CET
    I [Etienne Davignon] am with my team in Copenhagen to finalize the last preparations.
    The steering committee will stay at the Kokkedal Castle.
    The guests will stay at the Marriott Hotel and the Radisson Blue.

    ORDER OF EVENTS
    May 28th
    -Welcoming the first guests

    May 29th
    -opening of the annual Bilderberg Meeting with the speech of William Van Duyn
    - Speech of Henry de Castries about last year’s evolution, problems and changes.
    - all day meeting and lobbying
    - Evening Grand Dinner Event

    May 30th
    - Debating the topics of the Bilderberg agenda.

    May 31th
    -finalizing the agreements for next year’s agenda.
    - general focus on the topics results

    June 1th
    - William will have a breakfast meeting with the leaders of the European Community
    - Afternoon conference with the bank sector regarding the banking politics
    - In the evening the traditional Bilderberg Ballroom event.

    June 2nd
    - William has a One 2 One breakfast with Hillary Clinton followed by a brainstorming meeting with additional guests.
    - Henry de Castries, Hillary Clinton, Herman Van Rompuy and William will discuss the future relations between EU and US
    June 3th –The steering committee will release a résumé about the Bilderberg 2014.

    Steering committee
    Henri de Castries, Chairman and CEO, AXA Group
    Etienne Davignon , Belgian Minister of State
    William Cornelis Van Duyn, Philanthropist
    Herman Van Rompuy, President of the European Community
    Christine Lagarde, MD of the International Monetary Fund
    Peter Carrington , former British Foreign Secretary
    George Osborne, Chancellor of the Exchequer

    OFFICIAL 2014 BILDERBERG GUEST LIST
    Paul M. Achleitner, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
    Josef Ackermann, Chairman of the Board, Zurich Insurance Group Ltd
    Marcus Agius, Former Chairman, Barclays plc
    Helen Alexander, Chairman, UBM plc
    Roger C. Altman, Executive Chairman, Evercore Partners
    Matti Apunen, Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
    Susan Athey, Professor of Economics, Stanford Graduate School of Business
    Aslı Aydıntaşbaş, Columnist, Milliyet Newspaper
    Ali Babacan, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs
    Ed Balls, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
    Francisco Pinto Balsemão, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA
    Nicolas Barré, Managing Editor, Les Echos
    José Manuel Barroso, President, European Commission
    Nicolas Baverez, Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    Olivier de Bavinchove, Commander, Eurocorps
    John Bell, Regius Professor of Medicine, University of Oxford
    Franco Bernabè, Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia S.p.A.
    Jeff Bezos, Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
    Carl Bildt, Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs
    Anders Borg, Swedish Minister for Finance
    Jean François van Boxmeer, CEO, Heineken
    Svein Richard Brandtzæg, President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
    Oscar Bronner, Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt
    Peter Carrington, Former Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings
    Juan Luis Cebrián, Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
    Edmund Clark, President and CEO, TD Bank Group
    Kenneth Clarke, Cabinet Minister
    Bjarne Corydon, Danish Minister of Finance
    Sherard Cowper-Coles, Business Development Director, International, BAE Systems plc
    Enrico Cucchiani, CEO, Intesa Sanpaolo SpA
    Ian Davis, Senior Partner Emeritus, McKinsey & Company
    Robbert H. Dijkgraaf, Director and Leon Levy Professor, Institute for Advanced Study
    Haluk Dinçer, President, Retail and Insurance Group, Sabancı Holding A.S.
    Robert Dudley, Group Chief Executive, BP plc
    Nicholas N. Eberstadt, Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy, American Enterprise Institute
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    "When the blood in your veins returns to the sea, and the earth in your bones returns to the ground, perhaps then you will remember that this land does not belong to you, it is you who belongs to this land.”




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    Thank you Houman for posting Fritz Springmeier's updates here.

    A very well thought about new approach of 'openness' towards the masses, a bone that is being thrown for a public 'consumption', and a very calculated one

    A speech full of love for humanity:)

    This brings some thoughts to my mind about quantum physics, energetic games and about the antimatter particle Positron. I'll try to weave it all together.

    Someone else's game is someone else's game, the necessity to participate in a creation, shall it not suit the desires of the intended participants, can not exist unless the dog is running to fetch and invest themselves in believing they are only dogs and not gods. The others indeed think they are gods.
    Games are a shared common, conscious or unconscious mutual energetic cooperation where each of the participants understands their role and play it faithfully.. Games indeed have their purpose, But if for example something is suddenly changing in the equation, as trivial as the supposedly maturing of one of the participants, then the game is growing out of it's purpose. There will always be those who want to stay and play..

    From Wikipedia:

    Positron

    Quote "The positron is the antiparticle or the antimatter counterpart of the electron. The positron has an electric charge of +1e, a spin of ½, and has the same mass as an electron. When a low-energy positron collides with a low-energy electron, annihilation occurs, resulting in the production of two or more gamma ray photons .
    In 1928, Paul Dirac published a paper[2] proposing that electrons can have both a positive charge and negative energy. This paper introduced the Dirac equation, a unification of quantum mechanics. The paper did not explicitly predict a new particle, but did allow for electrons having either positive or negative energy as solutions. The positive-energy solution explained experimental results, but Dirac was puzzled by the equally valid negative-energy solution that the mathematical model allowed. Quantum mechanics did not allow the negative energy solution to simply be ignored, as classical mechanics often did in such equations; the dual solution implied the possibility of an electron spontaneously jumping between positive and negative energy states.. This concept do explain the identical properties shared by all electrons, suggesting that "they are all the same electron" with a complex.."
    What is our world conists of, what are human beings, what are all living beings and plants and Inanimate things and everything in between if not Atom particles?

    Important to note-

    Quote "Many of the results of quantum mechanics are not easily visualized in terms of classical mechanics"
    The meaning of that may be that if we change our thoughts and way of conduct from "classical" to "quantum" we can flee our way to a more desired counties of our own creation.

    In quantum, we can not simply ignor the negatively charged particles, we must acknowledge it. Experimentation shows that by watching the particles they behave differently then when they are not being watched, they are dynamically charged and constantly reacting, so do we. why then, if we are matured and growing out of this game, we continue and watch them and not step away?

    And this may cause a most frightening and unexpected alarm for those who continually seek to engage. They are basically dependent on our engaging with them. But you see, they know the physics and want to stay 'old school' and in control

    True, Sometimes there is no avoiding but palying back the words to the sender:(Van Duyn)
    "Some human are destroying their own life on purpose by their hunger for higher living standards. They are digging their own grave.."

    But it is mostly about acknowledging and then stepping out from giving them attention

    After all, what is a show without an audience?

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    From William Cornelis Van Duyn's facebook page
    https://www.facebook.com/william.van...f=ts&ref=br_tf

    Quote Dear followers,
    I do admit I had a double identity. This Identity protected me and gave me the chance to live a life till 2009. It made me feel "normal" like all of you. I could be someone defeatable, weak and certainly emotional. I learned, I listened to people like you, I helped them with jobs, I provided them legal assistances with my lawyers, I still finance "soup kitchen" for people in need in 5 different countries, I provide medication and free medical help in 3 other countries, I paid three surgeries for friends, I finance the school fees for the kids of my employees. Indeed, I lied, telling to nice people that my name was Serge de Block but I was able to help and to finance under a pseudoname several mentoring programs in different countries like Belgium, Hungary, Slovakia, Germany and many other countries. It does not matter under what name...
    Coming out as the one who leads the Illuminati by heritage isn't a Christmas gift! It takes a big part of your life away, it absorbes you!
    I took the courage in my hands and decide to fight for the benefit of humanity. I will turn this evil reputation to a positive opportunity for mankind. I get regularly threatened I recieved a lot of hurtful E-mails, and horrible phone calls.
    I take the chance with God Helps to give back what the old generation took away from you.
    I am not perfect but also I am not a bad person.
    Thank you for your consideration
    William.

    Dear William,

    Assuming that you are what you say you are, that you are sincere in turning the current situation into a positive one for mankind, that you have the not so positive elements in and out of your organization under control then I would write the following message to you:

    Lasting and sustainable positive changes require exiting the current paradigm based on economic slavery, asymmetric diffusion of information, and destruction of the ecosystem of this beautiful planet. There is no such thing as a “slight opening of Pandora’s box”, once it is open you must be prepared for everything to come out because everything will come out.
    What does it mean? Well, it means that, at the very least, your vision must include
    (1) moving from private central banks and a debt based monetary system to usury-free alternatives
    (2) lifting the seal on technologies (energy, healing, …) that could elevate mankind from the current paradigm
    Do not ask yourself ``How to increase the power of the Illuminati for the benefit of the population’’ but be prepared to lose that power and control. You must realize that no matter how good your intentions are, your successor and some of your "entourage" might not have the same.
    If you believe that mankind does not have the maturity to organize itself then turn your focus towards its spiritual, moral and intellectual elevation (a recalibration of the current goals of the media and the education system would certainly help).
    Be ambitious and bold in your vision. Imagine a world where mankind becomes ready to take its place in the universe amongst the stars, where advanced and clean technologies open its creative potential, where the purpose of each day, for its members, is turned towards learning, creation and spiritual elevation.

    Houman




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    I have not posted on this thread for a long time, probably since my translation of Malanga's TRIAD DYNAMIC COLOR FLASH TEST over a year ago. I tried the test several times but for some reason I could never bring it to completion so I eventually gave up. This was one potential solution which I seemed to have failed at.

    My father who had been a tremendous source of pain for me passed away weeks ago. We did not have a relationship. Initially I felt nothing, but after a few days I was barraged with countless painful memories which haunted me and I spent many tearful nights asking myself why I had to go through this when so many of my friends were daddy's little girls who received all the love and support a little girl could ask for. I've always hidden my wounds from my colleagues, but this time I couldn't. I'm shedding my skin before people who previously thought of me as being unshakeable and telling it like it is and this hurts as it makes me feel vulnerable. And I don't want sympathy nor pity but I'd like some understanding, which I've been getting. Thank you.

    Since I've seen my father in past life memories where he was even worse than in this particular life, I decided that although I've been forgiving him, I'd never want to be associated with him again. This prompted me to break any contracts and agreements I have with him. Soon I started breaking all contracts and agreements I may have with anyone who has ever hurt me. Every night upon going to my mostly troubled sleep I would recite something like this:

    "I now break any and all contracts and agreements I may have made at any point across space and time with any beings, carnate or discarnate, human, ETs, biological or otherwise, demons, entities, thought forms who have caused me pain and grief in this and all lifetimes. You are no longer permitted to cross my energy field to abduct me nor contact me nor interfere with my physical body, my mind, my thoughts, my emotions and my soul. You are also commanded to stay away from anyone who is near and dear to me as they are an extension of who I am. I forgive you for all the torment you've inflicted on me whether or not you understand what forgiveness is. I now reclaim autonomy and sovereignty."

    Of course, I don't know how valid it is to break a contract from one side only. If indeed this universe works by agreement, whether the agreement is reached by deceit, manipulation, ignorance, treachery or any other dubious ways, is it valid if it's broken by one side only? I have to believe so since my intent has never been, to my conscious awareness, to damage anyone. If I've ever unwittingly damaged anyone, I ask for forgiveness, whoever and wherever they may be, as I know there must have been times when I did not behave in the most ethical of ways. However, I've never intended any harm. Perhaps I unwittingly caused harm, but I've never been malicious person now nor in any other existence that I recall. Regardless of the malice that was done to me, I've never sought revenge.

    After these nightly recitations I felt somewhat more at peace. Some of my dreams have been unpleasant - nothing new there - but most of them seem to present some hints of resolutions, so I continued with the breaking of contracts and agreements on a nightly basis.

    On the night of May 31st - just a few days ago, I woke up after a few hours' sleep and in a semi-conscious state I recognized the presence which hadn't visited for a long time - The Dark Lord! His presence had seriously plagued me as a child and mostly through my teen years as he terrified me beyond anything I can describe. I would scream and desperately wanted to wake up but couldn't. I would plead to Yeshua for help and when he appeared, the dark lord would reluctantly go away. I wouldn't be able to go back to sleep after finally awaking and I'd be haunted by those nocturnal occurrences for days. This changed when at the age of 23 I had a dream that the dark one wanted audience with me. I met him in park where he was sitting at a picnic table on top of which was a very fancy silver tea set. The dark lord was sipping tea and asked me to sit with him. He looked old, fat, bald, tired, with a dandruff laden white mustache - quite pathetic! I asked him why he'd been persecuting me. He basically told me that he was just doing his job. After that dream he did not appear to torment me for a very long time and every aspect of my life improved. However, while my life started to blossom in many ways, other things occurred: ET abductions, deceit and betrayals, demonic and entity attacks, etc., many of which I've posted on this thread. The dark lord made the occasional appearance in the past couple of decades and was always terrifying but not quite as horrific as he had been in my teens and early twenties.

    So back to the night of May 31st - in my semi-conscious state I immediately recognized him. Even though he still looked sinister, he did not frighten me. He did not present himself in his usual bigger than life overpowering, evil presence. He was just an old familiar presence but this time he sported a derisive smile which felt somewhat uncomfortable but not at all frightening, not unlike the appearance of a number of people I've dealt with in my day to day reality. And then he said: "why haven't you broken your contracts with me?" and I thought: I have contracts with you?!? And if I do have contracts with you, then why would you remind me so that I can break them? So I verbally and audibly broke any agreements and contracts I may ever have made with him and much to my shock, I went back to sleep as if this were a perfectly normal occurrence.

    A few hours later I woke up and immediately remembered what had happened. Many, many things which were not apparent in the brief encounter came to mind. I remembered calling upon the dark lord and pleading for help when going through the most excruciatingly horrible times with my father. I was young, naïve and desperate and since calling upon the benevolent beings taught to me by my Catholic upbringing didn't help, I turned to the dark lord for help. I never promised him anything other than to acknowledge his existence and power. And I've always acknowledged his existence and power since my experiences showed me that this was so. And I don't know whether he actually helped in any way, but I understood that when you call upon someone for help, you immediately enter into a relationship with that person or being. And when entering a relationship, there are tacit agreements one makes without the exchange of any words which keep one indebted to that being on some level regardless of whether they deliver or not. And I wonder if I've called upon him in past lifetimes. I believe I must have even though I have no recollections of that!

    So I asked him telepathically why he'd be willing to break the contracts with me and what I understood, even though this was not expressed in words, is that he's tired of the game. The game was fun for a long time but now he's tired of it? Did I get this right? I also understood that I'd always been a lost cause anyways since I always refused to join his side. is this my imagination or is the dark lord actually retiring from the game, and if so, why?

    Is it because any game becomes tiresome after a while?

    Was there an agreement that the game would last x number of eons and then it would have to end?

    Are enough people waking up and refusing to play the game they've been playing since its inception?

    Is the planet becoming less dense therefore allowing higher frequencies to enter it so that the darker frequencies lose their strength?

    Of course, even if the dark lord does not wish to command his troops anymore, this does not mean that we'll be experiencing universal love, peace, affinity and harmony any time soon.

    I understand that everyone on the planet has been implanted - some in more pernicious ways than others! So many humans carry implants of doing or receiving harm and those implants will continue to work, probably in full force for the time being.

    And then there are the implanters of the implanted who have been implanted themselves! And they will continue the implantation for the time being also, I imagine.

    However, I'm asking myself whether this could indeed be the beginning of the end of terror on planet earth. Of course, many will say that I'm just deluded and suffering from an over-active imagination.

    Meanwhile I'm still feeling weak, disheartened and disoriented over so many things in my life which confuse me and make me wonder why I don't have the type of life that so many people I know have. Why so many challenges and obstacles? I'm still overwhelmed by triggers and re-stimulations that come from I-don't-know-where and stop me from doing the things I want to do and being the person I want to be. And what to do and not do in order to overcome them? And I feel as much fear posting this as I've felt posting other experiences on this thread.

    I imagine some readers will think this post is totally out there and I'm completely out to lunch, but these things are very real to me. My reality has always been way out there and it doesn't seem to be changing, however, this last experience was definitely encouraging. I hope it's not just another form of deceit!

    In parting I will say that I feel no hatred - no resentment! And if I had an opportunity to seek revenge against those who have harmed me, I wouldn't. And I hope that no one reading this would seek revenge either.

    What I ask for is protection, love and blessings for each of us who cares for humanity and for protection, love and blessings for all the ones we care about.

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    Quote I imagine some readers will think this post is totally out there and I'm completely out to lunch, but these things are very real to me. My reality has always been way out there and it doesn't seem to be changing, however, this last experience was definitely encouraging. I hope it's not just another form of deceit!
    It strikes real close to home with me. I have been following your journey since you (or I, am I chicken or egg?) came around, thank you so much for sharing.

    The color thing looked so promising to me too...I would love to have the doc show me in person, but I had the same issues...either the translation or my reading comprehension or something ain't quite right about it to me either.

    The contract thing....jeez i was posting something similar as you were probably pushing submit.

    I don't have any answers for you for your excellent questions (only imput is maybe he wasn't really THE dark lord, just some miserable entity a little high on himself), but I am with you--I understand a tiny bit of what you feel, sending love your way...

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    Ya know, I was just thinking, my Avalon journey began here, on the thread that makes me believe in the fact that internet threads can carry an energetic charge. I know it, because the uneasily seen activity always ramped in my house whenever I read it there, and if I immersed myself too much in the material, all kinds of synchronicities increased in magnitude and quantity.

    Me, you, Ches (justone), wynderer, and a handful of others working out a lot of weird stuff…and I specifically remembering that you recognizing the charge and disengaging was a definite sign for me, and that’s when I think I went to the village on Eram’s (then wakytweaky) advice. The balance was great for me…I grew tremendously over that period, and glad to hear that you did too.



    Anyways, thinking on it…I am hoping this energetic shift we seem to be in the middle of is heading toward more peaceful waters in the immediate future…I kinda remember being bored (eons ago), I’d love to be able to appreciate that feeling for a little stretch…

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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
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    ... is that he's tired of the game. The game was fun for a long time but now he's tired of it?

    [...]
    Glad to learn that all sides have had enough of it!

    Glad to see you are back posting... how was lunch?

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