David Icke 2014

[Cardillac]

I find this very tragic and disturbing:

"The People’s Voice

Monday 23rd June 2014 at 11:09 By DAVID ICKE
TPV was created to give a platform to suppressed information that the mainstream media ignores or ridicules and in that sense it has been successful with more than 5,000 hours of such information broadcast from around the world 24 hours a day since November 2013.

Its major problems have come from not being able to attract advertising and sponsorship to pay ongoing running costs and because, in among the many thoroughly decent and committed people who have been involved, it has attracted some of the most poisonous, manipulating, me, me, me self-obsessives you could ever meet.

Certainly, I have rarely experienced so many such characters passing through one location. This has meant ongoing abuse from those who didn’t get what they thought TPV would give them and this has generated a lot of negativity and put off potential advertisers and sponsors.

It was not about how these people served the greater good, but how the greater good could serve them and when it didn’t they set out to trash it.

To set up forums to seek to destroy something created to alert people to the nightmare that is unfolding for everyone – the ISIS situation in the Middle East is the start of a whole new deeply disturbing stage – has to be, in my view, an extreme form of mental illness.

I agreed when the idea for TPV was mooted to give it my full-time commitment as an unpaid volunteer until February 2014. This I did at great cost to myself financially and in terms of my health and I returned home to continue my other work on March 1st as I always said that I would.

TPV has struggled on since then financially with stalwarts like Richie Allen, who is totally committed to its ethos, and I have supported when necessary from afar. But I have now been told by the TPV director, Sean Adl, and his marriage partner, that my input is no longer required and that I should not ‘interfere’ in what Sean Adl calls ‘his business’.

In fact, it is and has always been The People’s business and everyone else involved have been purely custodians. This ethos has now been lost, not least because of people brought in who are clueless both about the ethos and the information that TPV was created to communicate.

I am also perturbed that a part-time bookkeeper that I brought in at the start because of her honestly and integrity has been fired in the last few days with a two-line email after the best part of a year of diligent work.

I will still be happy to appear on any show presented by Richie Allen, or outside contributors, because the information is what matters, lest anyone forget, but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer attached in any way to TPV which is very sad, but there we are.

The saddest thing that the TPV experience has shown me is that the number of people who are totally committed to making a difference and putting personal and petty desires and prejudices aside to that end are still tragically few.

Me, me, me is the disease that got humanity into this mess and it is certainly not going to get us out of it"

Larry

[sigma6]

What a shame... but then again, not surprising... It should be set up as a non profit corporation, and all expenses could be re-couped if done properly... At least that is what I am now working on... with my "corporation"

This has just made me think of something... Not understanding fundamental principles of trust interpretation ... does in fact create a kind of "Babylon Syndrome" almost inevitably...

And as I have stated ... Publicly accredited courses in private trust law were removed from the public school system in the late 60s... It's like a lost Jedi philosophy... just a crazy thought this post has made me think...

[Selene]

How very sad for David. It must be an immense personal disappointment.

But it’s clear from his comments that there were – not surprisingly – a number of different perspectives driving the venture. This is normal. And as long as everyone makes money, everyone is happy, no one disagrees and conflicting agendas are irrelevant. We’re all successful zillionaires, the universe loves us, who cares? But when/if the rubber meets the road.... everybody becomes potential roadkill.

And TV media stardom – aaaaach. David has very little personal ego; he has great difficulty fathoming the ego needs of Hollywood star wannabes attracted to the bright lights of an on-camera role. Any station, anywhere.

Ah, well. I hope the venture survives in some form. We need it and others in the long run. At minimum its survival would prompt others to start other cable/online TV stations. Some might work, and that fact would drive the start-up costs down for others by increasing venture capital interest in start-ups of this kind.

We’ll see.

Cheers,

Selene

[Lifebringer]

Posted by Selene (here)
How very sad for David. It must be an immense personal disappointment.

But it’s clear from his comments that there were – not surprisingly – a number of different perspectives driving the venture. This is normal. And as long as everyone makes money, everyone is happy, no one disagrees and conflicting agendas are irrelevant. We’re all successful zillionaires, the universe loves us, who cares? But when/if the rubber meets the road.... everybody becomes potential roadkill.

And TV media stardom – aaaaach. David has very little personal ego; he has great difficulty fathoming the ego needs of Hollywood star wannabes attracted to the bright lights of an on-camera role. Any station, anywhere.

Ah, well. I hope the venture survives in some form. We need it and others in the long run. At minimum its survival would prompt others to start other cable/online TV stations. Some might work, and that fact would drive the start-up costs down for others by increasing venture capital interest in start-ups of this kind.

We’ll see.

Cheers,

Selene

If only the partners would have "left ego out of it" and saw the greater good. But alas, some who contributed to TPV were not able to overcome their ego, or greed or financial opportunistic demon. I think most investors would at least give some program, show, or interest at least 2-4 years before showing profit. The Shark tank is a prime example. They want to own parts of everyone and everything and really not lose much in controlling interest.

The greater good demands that we make whatever necessary changes with or without our Government, church, or political party say. What we have in common is humanity as OUR family here on the blue ball of forever, Earth/Giya. God's blessed incubator for our souls, until birth/evolving/waking up.
Earth= School of Life on all levels, colors and persuasions. Who will be graduating?
I know I strive to do so, every day. It's sometimes disheartening to see and hear all the chaotic activity on tv, but I use it as a prayer mission for those who are lost, murdered, in car accidents and sick. Like a second skin.

Steven Greer's ego got in the way at times, but now he'll be more focused to the mission at hand, as he gets closer to the Creator and stands by his wife as she recovers.

[Azt]

It should be set up as a non profit corporation

Can only do that in England if your non profit corporation do NOT criticize politicians or the Royalty so David could NOT do it that way otherwise would make non-sense to set up the channel in the first place if it was obligated to support the status quo.

But

I have now been told by the TPV director, Sean Adl, and his marriage partner, that my input is no longer required and that I should not ‘interfere’ in what Sean Adl calls ‘his business’.

David has very little personal ego

Not sure about that.

When someone points out names in an open/public letter and add a "his business" I feel that there is a lot of Me, me , me (EGO) in his statement / letter too.

As an initial supporter of this project , I have the right to say that David failed to build up this project after the money (mine included) that he collected (which is a fact) as
he was in charge of hiring and building his team from ground up.

[andrewgreen]

David has discredited the credibility of the TPV by saying how its currently not being run inline with its original ethos. Who knows if that's in the best interest of the people or not, it depends what the motives of Sean Adl are.

[seehas]

This is realy sad to hear i was a supporter of this project but maybe the problem is also that television is a part of the old paradigm, for the young generations its not that important anymore since they can get what they want out of the internet.

Ive allways thought it would be the best to have one medium that can feed all things that arent covered by the mainstream media but otherwise is this whole television concept a old paradigm.

Like many people i know they are interested if you serve then the information on a silver tablet and ask "where u got this from?" Humans are conditioned to get information served but most never learned how to research information on their own "how do i know what is trustworthy" had this coin of conversation and its realy sad to see how adult humans are so deeply conditioned.

[RunningDeer]

Off topic, but this just came out. David Icke is a guest on the Alex Jones show.
Feel free to delete, Cardillac, if inappropriate to post here.

David Icke: Resistance Is Victory

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=odJOtSL7eHk

David Icke Exposes Open Borders

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aUzeJRrdwCU

[Sean]

That's awful. I contributed financially to TPV,but, without David Icke, as far as I'm concerned there IS no TPV.

[RunningDeer]

I missed this first one, and there's a 4th video.

Powerful David Icke Interview
David Icke comes in @ 7:06

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=riB2ziIaPD0

David Icke: Beyond The Mad House

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R25ctwD1fis

[ExomatrixTV]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hQP__uvc2p0

[nancyb]

Cardillac, without any intent to discredit your post, could you please provide the source of it? I've searched everywhere and cannot find what appears to be a personal message from David Icke on this issue. I was searching it to possibly find more info, but to no avail. Thank you, Nancy B.

[cursichella1]

Posted by nancyb (here)
Cardillac, without any intent to discredit your post, could you please provide the source of it? I've searched everywhere and cannot find what appears to be a personal message from David Icke on this issue. I was searching it to possibly find more info, but to no avail. Thank you, Nancy B.

Here it is:
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/the-peoples-voice/

p.s. Am I the only one here thinking this sounds more like TPV is a victim of intentional sabotage versus just folks with ego problems? It's not as if it'd be the first time this has happened to a threatening startup - the difference being instead of anonymous trolls, it has live-ins. It's a shame, but hardly surprising. Great news that David has cut ties and is moving on.

[Mike Gorman]

I know the original intention was to present an alternative public media outlet for all of the 'alternative perspectives' - in fact by trying to emulate a fully operational T.V
station they were inviting financial disaster - it takes horrendous quantities of money to sustain T.V production, not to mention the skill sets needed -showbiz attracts Egos
as does any opportunity for performance in public. I think they should forget about T.V and embrace the online world - this is the present, the future everyone is online.
It would be far more relevant to current cultural activity AND so much cheaper to produce! A Daily online show syndicated throughout the world -hosted on YouTube, or indeed a dedicated server
on its own platform -online video is incredibly within reach technically. T.V is a diminishing medium. This would be far more effective, less liable to censorship (VPN tunneling, encryption) That is my take.

[mosquito]

I think you're right GalaxyHorse. And this was more or less what I thought when it started up, but I'm extremely good at seeing the downside in things, it's an unpleasant gift !

I hope David can move on from this and, as you suggest, contemplate a web-based "news" service. I'm sure Alex Jones could help him out with that one. Whatever the outcome, the fact remains that David's intentions were 100% honourable; he gave it his best, he made it come to life. Hats off to him for that.

[RunningDeer]

For those interested in subscribing, here's David Icke's YouTube Channel.

[nancyb]

Thank you Cardillac, I don't know how I missed this obvious post ! I need to improve my research skills, lol!!!

Thanks again,
Nancy B.

Oops, sorry. I just realized I need to thank Cursichella!

[AriG]

Running Deer,

Could you possibly consider starting a thread on this Alex/David interview, specifically this immigration issue/borders issue. Although I admire David greatly, I am not sure that I agree with him as to the motivation. Don't want to clog this thread with off topic posts! Thanks!

[RunningDeer]

Posted by AriG (here)
Running Deer,

Could you possibly consider starting a thread on this Alex/David interview, specifically this immigration issue/borders issue. Although I admire David greatly, I am not sure that I agree with him as to the motivation. Don't want to clog this thread with off topic posts! Thanks!

Could you possibly consider starting a thread on this Alex/David interview, specifically this immigration issue/borders issue.

No worries about clogging this thread, AriG. Those were the only ones to up load. Feel free to delete these videos and begin a thread. I would not be offended. (This applies to anyone, too.) To delete my posts just click on the black triangle to the bottom left by the thanks button.

If you need assistance on thread starters, this’ll help “How to post or start a new thread”. Alex Jones is a good place to begin. He has footage on immigration issue/borders issue. This is one of several "Alex Jones YouTube Channel".

[AriG]

Oh No! I didn't mean that you, Running Deer, were clogging the thread at all. I just have a bad habit of starting new dialogue where it doesn't belong. I greatly appreciate the videos and want to explore the immigration issue further.... I am so sorry if it appeared that was inferring that you were clogging. Not at all, imo.