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    A photograph of Israeli residents of the town of Sderot leisurely watching the IDF’s aerial bombardments of the Gaza Strip went viral on social media over the weekend.

    The picture, which was snapped by Danish journalist Allan Sorensen and subsequently posted on his Twitter feed, shows Israelis relaxing on lawn chairs while in the background lights emanate from the heavily bombarded Gaza Strip.

    http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prote...s-viral-362474

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    I read through this thread late last night and decided to have a bit of a cogitate before I responded.

    First, the attack on Gaza by Israel has nothing to do with the 3 Israeli-Jewish youth nor the Israeli-Arab youth that were slaughtered. Those deplorable acts have been used as the justification for a political action. The Uncle of one of the murdered Israeli youth asked that no escalation of violence occur so the attack on Gaza is not “an eye for an eye justice” in at least his case (source). As a question, and I mean no disrespect to anyone with this, is there any evidence that the 3 youths were slaughtered by Hamas militants? It would not be the first time that rhetoric moved public debate and perception with little if any evidence. Again, I mean no disrespect and genuinely ask the question as I have not seen a report stating the evidence to support this position, only Bibi (Netanyahu) saying that it is fact (there may have been a report in Israeli that I am unfamiliar with).

    At the time of the murder of the Israeli-Jewish youth I thought that the timing was rather fortuitous for Bibi and his far-right coalition members. Now the dangers of the surrounding forces (with Abbas gaining credibility in the West and the Pope praying for peace between the Palestinian/Israeli factions) could be re-imagined and the “enemy within” rhetoric reinforced. Looking at the rise of ISIS and the continued destabilisation of the region, following the "coalition of lies" that led to the attack on Iraq, might assist others to bring into focus the regions tensions. Look at the situation in Syria and Eqypt. They are not stable regional leaders. Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has only just been elected in Egypt and the next year will tell us how he will progress in controlling fundamentalism and creating much needed economic reforms. Add to that the on-going negotiations between the US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China and Iran over the Iranian nuclear program. Remember Bibi’s declaration that the weakening of sanctions on Iran could lead to war? In addition, in a recent interview with CBS, Bibi linked the Iranian nuclear negotiations with Hamas and Gaza and declaring that Iran is a “terrorist empire”.

    To move forward in discussion it is important to remember that the people who are creating the situation in Palestine/Israel/Gaza are the extremists. It is not the moderates who argue that all of the land Israel occupies is theirs because God gave it to them under a covenant. It is not the moderates who argue that Israel should be destroyed. Ayelet Shaked is a member of the Israeli Parliament (the Knesset) and part of the ruling coalition (her party, Bait Yehudi [The Jewish Home], being a major coalition member and a far-right religious-Zionist party). To not discuss her views would be to ignore a large swathe of Israeli society that she and her opinions represent. It is appropriate, in my opinion anyway, to say that there are those who raise their voices against such views but not appropriate to say that a member of parliaments war mongering and calls for retribution against innocent youths (as occurred following her declaration which was soundly based in Deuteronomic teachings [20: 16-17]) should be ignored as extremist. That goes doubly when that member of parliament is a leading member of the ruling coalition.

    This is all about money, control and power. Place it in that context when looking at it. Yes, there is a religious element that is fundamental to understanding what is occurring in the region.

    We ignore it at our peril.

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    Quote Posted by Tesseract
    I see quite a few people using the strategy of making the imputation that, because of my condemnation, without caveat, of the state of Israel, my unapologetic destruction of Zionist apology, my arguments on the moral weakness of neutrality and giving credence to Israeli hasbara, that I am dissuading contributions. You need to understand that this intensity is the very nature of my opposition. Why shouldn’t I be mad at you all for trying to shut me, and anyone else with an incisive, but accurate comment, down? If I tell a lie, or make a mistake, by all means let me know. If you have a compelling argument against my own views, please make it. I have already invited this. But don’t put me on a guilt trip for standing up for, without any platitudinous ambiguity or assuagement (which we seem to be addicted to), a people in plight. You may be surprised to know that love and humanity is at the core of even the sharp end of the resistance effort.
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    Quote Posted by Tesseract (here)
    You see, I am not one of these effete neo-liberals who, as if they have been trained, repeat the typical politically correct narrative which benefits the status-quo. Such to the tune of ‘both sides need to refrain from violence’, ‘both sides are bad’, ‘we need to end the division’, and so on and so on, without ever committing themselves to supporting the resistance or condemning Zionism.

    I put it to everyone who has viewed, thanked, or commented on this thread: which side are you on? Really, which side?

    I, if it is not obvious, am on the side of the Palestinians, I always will be, and I will always be against the state of Israel. You can not be with Israel, and with the Palestinians at the same time. Israel by definition is a Jewish state, and one which has a policy of ‘Palestinians out’ and ‘Jews in’.

    The position of not taking a side, and at the same time offering such bland (but possibly well meaning) statements as calling for unity, love and healing is in fact a moral failure, given the dynamic realities on the ground. These kinds of statements are like saying today ‘I am with the Ukrainian people’ – a completely meaningless, populist, cop-out, as it implies you are ‘with’ the fascists and the anti-fascists at the same time. The Israel-Palestine conflict is a litmus test. Just as Apartheid South Africa was a litmus test in the past. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people, in their liberal intellectualism, their quest to be seen on the intellectual moral high-ground, who are failing this litmus test.

    The morally righteous thing to do regarding this conflict is to support the side of the Palestinians. It's not complicated, get off the fence and support the Palestinians. Personally, I hope that the F-16s dropping the bombs get shot down and the destroyers off the coast plough into a mine field. And to that end I wish all players in the Palestinian resistance every success, and I will not shy from making blatant, unqualified, attacks on Zionism and those who support it.
    someone sent an important quote over on twitter I'm hit by Israel cyber trolls all the time, but very few understand...

    "Whosoever shows your fault is a friend, those that pay you lip service are your executioners..." Umar Ibn al-Khattab

    if Israel understood those who are hardest on them, are not anti-semitic and to be ignored, they are the ones who should be listened to the closest...

    israel has used nuclear weapons on Gaza, thermo nukes like those used in 9/11, most israelis know a retribution strike is coming on Tel-Aviv they have given permission with their actions.

    those who praise israel's greatness like John McCain are warmongers, that just want a reason to go to war... they are the executioners...

    the quote was sent to me by a Jewish Rabbi...






    are we all anti-semitic, or is Israel's leadership going against Jewish interest?


    insiders report King David speaking for Christians Condemns Israel's actions against his people the Palestinians...
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    Scotland offers help to the wounded Palestinians.

    SHAME ON EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Thank YOU Scotland!!!! #FreedomForPalestine #HelpIsOnTheWay pic.twitter.com/KRZJwszv4j


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    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...217736666.html

    Scotland, which is in the UK but has its own parliament separate to London's House of Commons, called on both sides to "de-escalate" the situation and offered to help treat civilians injured in the conflict.

    "Scotland stands ready to offer whatever assistance we can and it is in that spirit that we make this offer, to give specialist medical help to civilians caught up in the conflict should medical evacuation be possible," said External Affairs Minister Humza Yousaf.

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    Message from a 10 yr old Palestinian girl, ‘I’m still
    alive and I’m not dead, so don’t kill me, give me
    the chance to still alive. Bye.’

    Monday 14th July 2014 at 10:56 By david-icke




    This image struck such a chord that it had 36,000 likes on Facebook before, yes, Facebook took it down
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    5 hours until proposed ceasefire begins, it is going to be a painful night for Gaza...

    Net&Yahoo accepted, Hamas isn't happy with the agreement...

    it is confirmed to be unconfirmed the ceasefire is confirmed... mid East politics...

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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Message from a 10 yr old Palestinian girl, ‘I’m still
    alive and I’m not dead, so don’t kill me, give me
    the chance to still alive. Bye.'

    This image struck such a chord that it had 36,000 likes on Facebook before, yes, Facebook took it down
    Of course they did. The owners of Facebook are CIA warmongers.
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    Lets hope the ceasefire comes into place.......




    Fatal Edge: Over 180 Palestinians killed, thousands flee as Israel broadens bombing blitz



    Published on 14 Jul 2014


    There's no respite for the people of Gaza, in Israel's now week-long anti-terrorist
    operation. Thousands have fled - with the number of Palestinians killed reaching
    175, most of them civilian. The UN says 32 of them are children - and calls the
    situation in the region devastating and unpredictable. Harry Fear is in Gaza for RT,
    talking to some of the victims' relatives.

    RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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    Scary vid on link.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28302539
    Three men sitting on the steps of a building, spotted by an Israeli drone,
    seconds later blown apart , in the wrong place at the wrong time.....


    The BBC's Jeremy Bowen in Gaza: "Until a ceasefire comes, the people in most danger here are civilians"



    Egypt has proposed a ceasefire to end a week of cross-border fire between the Gaza Strip and Israel.






    The initiative, announced by the foreign ministry, urges a ceasefire starting on Tuesday morning
    followed by a series of meetings in Cairo with high-level delegations from both sides.

    It comes ahead of an urgent meeting of Arab League foreign ministers in Cairo.

    Hamas, the faction that controls Gaza, confirmed that truce efforts were under way but said no
    deal had yet been done. Israeli officials said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's security cabinet
    would convene on Tuesday to discuss the proposal.

    A senior Israeli official told the BBC that Hamas was "much weaker" after air strikes destroyed
    many of its rockets and manufacturing facilities.

    Palestinian officials say at least 175 people in Gaza have been killed by Israeli air strikes since the
    offensive began last Tuesday.

    Israel says nearly 1,000 rockets have been fired from Gaza in that time.

    Thousands of people have fled their homes in northern Gaza after an Israeli warning and Israel has
    also massed thousands of troops on the border, amid speculation of a possible ground invasion.

    Ismail Haniyeh, a Hamas leader in Gaza, said in a speech broadcast on al-Jazeera that Hamas was
    not only seeking an end to the fighting but also an easing of the Israeli blockade that has crippled life in Gaza.

    "The problem is the reality of Gaza, the siege, the starving, the bombing. The siege must stop and
    people in Gaza need to live in dignity," he said.

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    vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28302539

    The Gaza Strip's troubled history - in 80 seconds

    Israel imposed a blockade on Gaza when Hamas - which is designated a terrorist group by Israel,
    the US and other countries - took over in 2007.

    Israel is demanding an end to rocket attacks on its towns and cities from Gaza.

    Egyptian state media has reported that US Secretary of State John Kerry will be in Cairo on Tuesday to try
    to help broker a truce, but the US has not confirmed this.

    Middle East peace envoy Tony Blair welcomed the Egyptian proposal and praised the "leadership Egypt has
    shown in doing so".

    "Such a ceasefire can halt the tragic loss of life, stop the rockets on Israel - and open up the possibility of
    a genuine change in Gaza," he said.




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    The BBC's Orla Guerin in Cairo says Egypt has been accused of failing to play its usual role of mediator
    between Israel and Hamas.

    After a week of bloodshed, it has now at least produced a blueprint for a deal, she adds.

    In 2012 Egypt's then-President Mohammed Morsi brokered a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, using
    the influence his Muslim Brotherhood held with the Palestinian group.

    The current outbreak of violence followed the killing of three Israeli teenagers in June and the suspected
    revenge killing of a Palestinian teenager in Jerusalem.

    Israeli officials said on Monday that three arrested Israeli Jews had confessed to the murder of the
    Palestinian, Mohammed Abu Khdair.

    The three, whose names have not been released, have been remanded in custody.

    The UN estimates that 77% of those killed in Gaza have been civilians.

    However Israel disputes the figures, saying they are based on Hamas sources and are not objective.

    A military spokesman told the BBC that Israel had aborted some attacks for fear of killing civilians.

    Israel says it is targeting Hamas militants and "terror sites", including the homes of senior operatives.

    In a statement, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) said: "We do not wish to harm civilians in Gaza, but
    these civilians must know that remaining in close proximity to Hamas terrorists and infrastructures is
    extremely unsafe."

    Are you in Israel or Gaza? What are your hopes for a ceasefire? You can email your experiences to
    haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk, using the subject line 'Israel Gaza'.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28302539
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    This is very interesting,

    I almost feel a bit sorry for the caller though who was in way out of his depth with George

    Quote George Galloway, the British Politician and Broadcaster, talks to a Jewish caller on his radio program. The caller, besides being totally ignorant to the history of how Palestinian land was occupied by the Jewish forces, displays a level of insanity that has to be heard to be believed. Galloway repeatedly asks him how Britain had the power to grant another country's land to a particular race of people, and the caller fails to understand the reasoning behind the question, and repeats irrelevant and illogical responses like a broken record. Galloway then proceeds to school him over the historical accuracy of his statements, and leaves the caller searching for words, and eventually deciding to leave the conversation to avoid further embarrassment.
    “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular.” (Carl Jung)

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    Quote I almost feel a bit sorry for the caller though who was in way out of his depth with George




    Quote George Galloway, the British Politician and Broadcaster, talks to a Jewish caller on his radio program. The caller, besides being totally ignorant to the history of how Palestinian land was occupied by the Jewish forces, displays a level of insanity that has to be heard to be believed. Galloway repeatedly asks him how Britain had the power to grant another country's land to a particular race of people, and the caller fails to understand the reasoning behind the question, and repeats irrelevant and illogical responses like a broken record. Galloway then proceeds to school him over the historical accuracy of his statements, and leaves the caller searching for words, and eventually deciding to leave the conversation to avoid further embarrassment.
    That was very good , I was bracing my ears. but George calmly explained
    the situation, I bet few not interested in the subject know Palestine was a
    province of the ottoman empire for centuries and after Gen Allenby drove
    the Ottoman/Imperial German army out of Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Iraq
    Lebanon and Arabia ( See Lawrence of Arabia ) The British and French
    divided up the provinces of the former Empire. Thus starting a hundred years of
    conflictin that area. Fuelled by oil and other interests, still going on today.


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    Professor Ellie Kedoure London School of
    Economics said the elites of the world
    thought World Jewry one of the great
    Occult powers of the world, and the French
    and others were commited to Zionism.

    They say it all quite calmly in this clip,
    and many would not take any notice.
    But what we have learn't from the
    the alternate media in the last few
    years it means a lot more to the 'Elites'
    who ran the world then and now.......

    Map of Ottoman Empire in 1914



    You can see on the map this is where the majority of the Middle East
    conflicts have taken place over the last century......
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    Hamas didn't agree...

    the bombing continues, the leader of Hamas skipped off to Qatar for safety


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    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
    The people of Israel awaken to the fact that they are used as pawns by their leaders and those who believe they in control as they attempt to steer towards Armageddon. The people of Israel say. enough is enough, NOT IN MY NAME.
    A young Israeli speaks out and says, enough. NOT IN MY NAME. Then is brutally punished by police then arrested. I hope he is fine and his efforts do not go unnoticed and more are brave enough to follow his example. In my eyes he is a hero. Be well laddy.

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    Article from the Palestine Solidarity Campaign website concerning the handing of an open letter to the BBC (see below the first article for a copy of the open letter) 'asking the BBC to improve their coverage of Palestine and Israel'.

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    Chomsky, Pilger and Loach call on BBC to reflect reality of Gaza’s occupation
    July 14, 2014

    Noam Chomsky, John Pilger and Ken Loach are among more than 40,000 signatories who have signed an open letter to the BBC calling on its journalists to reflect the reality of Gaza’s occupation while reporting on Israel’s current assault.

    MPs have also signed the letter which will be delivered to the BBC tomorrow (15th July) during a protest outside its Portland Place, London, headquarters.

    The letter reminds the BBC that Israel is bombing a refugee population which is being held under occupation and siege. It is a population which has no army, navy or air force with which to defend itself against the fourth largest military power in the world.

    Sarah Colborne, Director of Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which will be delivering the letter, said: “These are simple facts, none of which have been present in any of the BBC’s coverage so far of Israel’s assault on Gaza.

    “However, they are vital facts and their absence results in BBC coverage which is unbalanced and lacking in context. Their omission allows the BBC to present Israel’s assault as a retaliation to Palestinian rockets rather than as an enforcement of its occupation and siege.

    “Truly unbiased journalism would allow its consumers to consider both options instead of presenting them with just one viewpoint, as the BBC is doing.”

    Protests took place outside BBC studios in Nottingham and Manchester on 10th July, and in Bristol on 11th July, demanding balanced reporting from BBC journalists.

    Tuesday’s protest at Portland Place will call on the BBC to report the truth about Israel’s occupation and siege on Gaza, instead of concealing facts from its audiences. It will take place from 5.30pm to 7.30pm.

    PSC’s letter to the BBC can be viewed here: http://www.palestinecampaign.org/sign-open-letter-bbc/ It will be addressed to the BBC’s Director General, Lord Hall.

    The letter will remain on the website after Tuesday, allowing more people to sign. New signatures will be delivered to the BBC next week.

    (Source)

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    The open letter from the Palestine Solidarity Campaign mentioned in the above article.

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    Sign our open letter to the BBC
    July 9, 2014

    Please sign this open letter to the BBC. Ask your MP to sign it. Ask your friends to sign. Palestine Solidarity Campaign will be presenting this letter, with your signatures on it, to the Director General of the BBC, Lord Hall.

    Dear BBC

    Once again Gaza is under massive aerial bombardment from Israeli warplanes and drones, and, once again, the BBC’s reporting of these assaults is entirely devoid of context or background.

    We would like to remind the BBC that Gaza is under Israeli occupation and siege.

    We would like to remind you that Israel is bombing a refugee population – Palestinians who were made refugees when they were forced from their land in1948 in order to create Israel.

    We would like to remind you that Gaza has no army, air force, or navy, while Israel possess one of the strongest militaries in the world.

    When you portray Israel’s shelling of a civilian population as a ‘response’ or ‘retaliation’ to rocket strikes from Gaza, we would like to remind you that these events flow from the displacement of the overwhelming majority of the Palestinian people from their homes and communities, with millions now corralled as refugees in the Gaza Strip. That initial injustice was compounded and continues with the ongoing occupation and siege.

    When you portray the occupier as the victim, and the occupied as the aggressor, we would like to remind you that resistance to occupation is a right under international law. And we would like you to remember that Israel’s occupation, siege and collective punishment of Gaza is not.

    And, finally, we would like to remind BBC journalists, when interviewing Israel’s spokespeople over the coming days, to ask the one question they have all failed to ask: “If Israel ends its occupation of Palestinian land, and allows the people of Palestine to live in freedom from Israeli domination, would that bring peace?”

    (Source)

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    The IDF is to resume its attack on Gaza (ground forces had already gathered in preparation if required).

    Quote Hamas has fired 47 rockets since we suspended our strikes in Gaza at 9 am. As a result, we have resumed our operation against Hamas.
    Source: Twitter @IDFSpokesperson
    A Hamas spokesperson has been reported as saying that Hamas knew nothing about the Egyptian cease fire negotiations other than what was reported in the media. They did not agree to the terms of the cease fire because they were not party to the negotiations of the cease fire (source).

    Thought it was all a bit strange. The Israeli Security Cabinet decided to agree to the terms of the cease-fire just before its 9 am start. Then Ministers are quoted as saying that 'If Hamas continues to fire rockets after the ceasefire, Israel will retaliate forcefully' and that the 'Ceasefire decision gives Israel broad international legitimacy to continue the operation if Hamas doesn't stop shooting' (source).

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    So after a bit of an investigate it appears that a cease fire offer was made to Hamas #2 (Moussa Abu Marzouk) by Egyptian Intelligence in Cairo on Saturday (local Egypt time [source]). That offer was refused as there was no mention within it of the direction later talks would take (eg sanction restrictions, border crossing [source]). I've come across no indication that further talks were brokered. It appears from what I've read that Hamas were not party to the negotiations around the proposed cease fire (according to Sami Abu Zuhri at least [source]) and that the negotiations were between Egypt and Israel with the decision being handed to Hamas to agree to. It appears that people in Gaza were only aware of the proposed cease fire because of media reports as there had been no agreement entered into.
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    I was just off when I came across an article from the NY Times about the image used in this threads OP.

    The article can be read here:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/wo...row-seats.html

    In it the photographer/reporter expresses his surprise at the response the photo has garnered:

    Quote As his image reverberated around the social network, where it was shared more than 10,000 times, the reporter was surprised by the response. It was, he said in a telephone interview from Israel, “nothing new.” Similar scenes, of Israeli spectators gathered on the high ground above Gaza to view the destruction below, were documented in a Times of London article and a video report from Denmark’s TV2 during Operation Cast Lead in 2009.

    Explaining that he has also previously witnessed Palestinians cheering news of bombings that killed Israelis, Mr. Sørensen said that, in a war, “this is what happens.” Civilians and fighters on both sides, he said, “go through a process of dehumanizing the enemy.”

    ...

    Mr. Sørensen, who stressed that he has “a complete understanding of what the people of Sderot have been going through for 14 years,” attributed the particularly vitriolic response to his Twitter report to the climate in Israel since three young religious students were kidnapped and murdered in the occupied West Bank last month. The journalist called the “extreme incitement to violence from very right-wing Israeli groups unprecedented” in the many years he has been reporting from the region.

    The Israeli blogger David Sheen reported that a far-right rally in Jerusalem on Monday was marked by calls to kill Arabs and send Jews opposed to the bombardment to Gaza.
    The article is quite good and even manages to include a video from 2008 of then senator Obama standing in front of spent rocket casings and mentions his receiving an 'I Love Sderot' t-shirt from the towns residents.



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    I just watched this doc , gives you more of a feel of how todays crisis stems
    back a century to the imperial age. Not to long , but gives you more of a picture
    than the smaller vid above. At the end it speculates how the Arab provinces
    should have been divided up and the lady academic. ( it does not give her name)
    in this segment.

    It sounds very much like ISIS.......The Elites at work again ?







    Yesterday, June 29, 2014, ISIS announced that the Islamic caliphate is a reality,
    with ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi “the Caliph” and “leader for Muslims
    everywhere.” (Incredibly, the United States once had him in custody at a detention
    facility in Iraq, the now-closed Camp Bucca near Umm Qasr, but the Obama
    administration let him go in 2009.)

    http://cofda.wordpress.com/2014/06/3...-is-a-reality/

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    Lots of events change or can be altered in the vacuum of world events. Like at the
    end of WW1 the dividing up of the Ottoman empire. After WW2 the break up of
    the French and British mandates in the area and the recreation of Israel. Since
    then there has been constant wars between one state or another.

    Is this being set up for the battle of Armageddon on the plains of Meggido in
    Palestine ? There has been talk of rebuilding the Temple of Solomon.


    THIRD TEMPLE HAS BEGUN.. NOW BEING BUILT !


    IF this Caliphate did come about ,Israel would obviously be at threat
    and a Nuclear event which could trigger WW3 is very possible if these
    sanarios start to take place. It should not be difficult to stop because Russia,
    Iran and China back Syria and America and NATO are still technically
    backing the Bagdad regime.

    But maybe the real elites are letting this happen to full fill the prophecies
    of the Book of Revelations......Just speculating....

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    Billy, we need to know who that young man is so we can follow it up.

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    Examine all things and retain the good.

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    Sick of Mark Regev?

    You can follow Al Qassam Brigades on Twitter: @qassamfeed

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