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    Did you succeed in getting to the moon? I have not really succeeded - each time as the moon looms up in my line of vision, I get a terrible surge of fear & dread. . . & back to the body I go. Once I asked my higher self to be taken there to meet "a kindly teacher", & ended up travelling with 2 of my cats. I encountered a little balding man, who told me to make an appointment with his secretary, which I did, but was not able to keep it. We were in a rather boring, grey building with steep stairs. I have no idea whether this was on the moon or not.

    Is there something that stops us from investigating the moon? Has anyone else succeeded? Apparently there are some who have succeeded in going deep into the very body of the sun - something I would not even think of trying. Hope I'm not derailing the thread with this interjection!
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    oh If I could physically go there for a day , explore the pyramids , the crystal city , craters , domes ... magical ... it is my personal OBE vacation destination , which I will try again tonight to visit ... somebody distract the guards ...

    This is very interesting to me.

    I had this dream 8-10-2010
    It was about going to the domed structures on the dark side of the moon.

    Quote I was on the moon, in one of the domed structures in one of the craters on the darkside of the moon. There were houses all lined up on an avenue, not a street per se. The sky was blue and had clouds in it, I remarked about that saying how wierd it was to see a blue sky while on the moon. Everyone I knew in real life was there, and many many more that I didn't.

    There was a tour going on, with an invitation being made by the beings who lived on the moon to stay there. The kindness on the faces of the tour guides was only skin deep, and I know their intentions were malevolant. I didn't know what they wanted to do with all of us, but I knew it was bad. I tried to tell friends and family we had to run, these beings have bad intentions. But even though everyone agreed, they seemed to be mind controlled and wouldn't leave. I ended up leaving everyone I knew and running for my life from these beings. The dream had the over all taste in my mind, that the old twilight zone episode " how to serve man" had. Where aliens land with the guise of being kind but really wanna eat everybody.

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    Of course. Mind control is present in any contactee case from what I gather and have been told from my own contacts. So you have valid statements there. Character assassination is definietly a game the intelligence agencies play. I deal with these groups on a daily basis...

    But...... How could they force him to take a photograph of a dinosaur book and say he went back in time... Seriously? The only path of thought from that I see is, Meier is corrupted too and falsified evidence. Such is the conclusion of such to me. He's been caught red handed too many times.

    I do believe some of his material at least is immersive and well written. But I have a hard time taking it seriously when some things in his case were so ridiculously hoaxed....
    Meier did not have the resources a lot of folks think he did. In the case of the letter I responded to you with, the intelligence worker stated that they would simply take the film Meier would deposit at the Photo-mat and take what they considered to be extroidinary and many times substitute a picture for a fake. This fake would be inserted into the pictures to be returned to Meier. This fake that would be hard for Meier to initially recognize, but would be easy to point out at a later date by professional debunkers once he included it in his pictorial contact biography.

    According to Randolph Winters, Meier was also attacked by ET types who had their own agendas in terms of controlling our planet and our information. These folks were called the Befath, and or the Giza Intelligence.

    Apparently it is not easy being a contactee, and I for one would turn the job down if offered it.

    All that being said, Meier has some amazing material to offer, and if an intelligent person were to take the time to take in the information, I think they would find the adventure worth while.

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    People wanting to create an image of themselves , self-projection of any sort .. is never honest at the end .
    If you encounter an elephant , and lets say it's quite rare to encounter elephants on earth nowadays .. two , three or ten times even ...

    do you call yourself 'Elephant Contactee' ?

    Will you start claiming that you understand all that elephants do and told you and call yourself 'their ambassador' .
    Well, if you do , it's your story, entirely your problem . The Elephants may be bit wiser than you are , they realise they can't live like you and you can't live like them ,
    even that much is my speculation..

    But here you have this beautiful human ability to create stories . And vent his/hers subconscious mind .. in volumes and volumes of science fiction ..
    I've read somewhere that Isaac Assimov was considered man with the highest IQ of his time .. not the one measurable in tests , the one approved by fellow humans ...

    I believe in ET-Human Contact but not in 'contactees by profession' . I believe Billy Meier had ET contact but from there ... and to asses the whole matter correctly,
    the whole intelligence - political game would have to stop throwing false mirrors here and allow a space for scientific assessment and investigation.

    Same for many others.


    Human beings are the only species I know of who talk too much -- because they can't think properly -- , and with talking too much, much nonsense is free to come about as well .

    If you don't want to be 'mind controlled' , don't engage in mind controls . It's simple as that .
    Buddha called himself 'awakened' from the bardo of becoming ..
    becoming something, someone important, anyone with definitions at all . Not here to pass influence on others .. we all do , and there's no harm .

    In my opinion, by reading , listening, watching too many science fiction stories .. and versions of reality , people block themselves from communication and contact with ETs as well .


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    Of course. Mind control is present in any contactee case from what I gather and have been told from my own contacts. So you have valid statements there. Character assassination is definietly a game the intelligence agencies play. I deal with these groups on a daily basis...

    But...... How could they force him to take a photograph of a dinosaur book and say he went back in time... Seriously? The only path of thought from that I see is, Meier is corrupted too and falsified evidence. Such is the conclusion of such to me. He's been caught red handed too many times.

    I do believe some of his material at least is immersive and well written. But I have a hard time taking it seriously when some things in his case were so ridiculously hoaxed....
    Meier did not have the resources a lot of folks think he did. In the case of the letter I responded to you with, the intelligence worker stated that they would simply take the film Meier would deposit at the Photo-mat and take what they considered to be extroidinary and many times substitute a picture for a fake. This fake would be inserted into the pictures to be returned to Meier. This fake that would be hard for Meier to initially recognize, but would be easy to point out at a later date by professional debunkers once he included it in his pictorial contact biography.

    According to Randolph Winters, Meier was also attacked by ET types who had their own agendas in terms of controlling our planet and our information. These folks were called the Befath, and or the Giza Intelligence.

    Apparently it is not easy being a contactee, and I for one would turn the job down if offered it.

    All that being said, Meier has some amazing material to offer, and if an intelligent person were to take the time to take in the information, I think they would find the adventure worth while.
    What about the gun he was in a picture with? It was found to be a frankenstien concoction of many different toy guns at the time. And was hilariously tacky for an advanced race to use... I give every case the benefit of the doubt when looking into it. Meier's case wreaks of fabrication. With the epic amount of information though I'm sure some truths were woven into the disinformation mound...

    From simply examining the photos Meier would be able to identify the blond chick isn't Samjase, and the dinosaur pic isn't what he saw... I think it's quite firmly established at this point Meier fabricated evidence. And I have no doubt he was mind controlled...

    Quote Apparently it is not easy being a contactee, and I for one would turn the job down if offered it.
    It certainly hasn't been easy for me. So maybe you are wise to think that way. After how interesting ET contact is, I think I am fortunate to have ET contact but at the same time I would take it all away if it meant the US government would have never sabotaged me, damaged my brain/body etc and would leave me be to live my life purpose(which kind of opposes them naturally)..

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    Just researched if Meier said he was Jesus. Apparently that was made up. Although he is quoted as being: "the prophet of the New Age". Not exactly something that resonates with me as something ETs would want to create... At least the ETs you would want to hang out with...
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    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    Just researched if Meier said he was Jesus. Apparently that was made up. Although he is quoted as being: "the prophet of the New Age". Not exactly something that resonates with me as something ETs would want to create... At least the ETs you would want to hang out with...
    The Jesus thing is in my opinion, the absolute worst thing Meier did. I've read the books as published by Wendelle Stevens, and yes he does state that there was an incarnational relationship between himself and Jesus.

    This was the single most damning action Meier ever took, and I concede this.
    It was the single greatest reason I was at one point considering throwing his material to the wayside.

    But that being said, if you can get over it, and many understandably can not, I still consider his material worth while.

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    This topic would of course deserve whole another new thread .... but what I'm trying to allude to in the following likeness is not the ridicule ,
    it's the necessity of ridicule itself , the need to break bonds of this tightly controlled conformist human society,
    the reason itself why society looks upon 'ET Contact' as crazy simply because it does not fit in to their 'norms' and never will .

    It's this invisible ( yes always, strictly, invisible ) thread of humane wisdom .. humane because it's reach is beyond human intellect , ego, convictions and societal controls and paradigms ..
    this invisible thread that binds together past, presence and future of humanity .

    How can anyone break a paradigm without actually, breaking some rules and laws ?

    No , you can't .

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/19/wo...html?hpt=hp_t4

    A 51-year-old male schoolgirl? Meet Tokyo's inspirational cross-dresser



    This is the person you want to contact when you come to earth, right

    The other people whom you want to contact are dancing around big telescope at Puerto Rico , Arecibo and call themselves 'SETI Contact Group' .

    They too claim to be 'contactees' though they insist on never seeing an alien , not even in their dreams ...

    I always wonder .. well ..

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    Quote Posted by Omniverse (here)
    Just researched if Meier said he was Jesus. Apparently that was made up. Although he is quoted as being: "the prophet of the New Age". Not exactly something that resonates with me as something ETs would want to create... At least the ETs you would want to hang out with...
    The ET's influence the spirit form that teaches all worlds spirit teaching , it has lived in the bodies of many personalities over many time epochs , they follow it and teach the person ancient wisdom , each prophet had the same message and mission ...They would call it an announcer of truth , mankind elevated it to god not matter what area it incarnated ...which is why they don't openly show themselves , they don't want to create another religion ...
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    Prophecies and predictions spot on for over 60 years is unmatched in our time ... I've waited five years for contact report 5 to be translated into English ... the amazing thing is this conversation came as symbols though telepathy in a single constant flow and he put it in language form in one setting with one arm ... they say he knows 3 million symbols , the language of the universe , symbols ... Our moon holds many secrets , no wonder we were warned off ... not even ET wants us snooping around up there ... The moon brought here by the tail of the destroyer comet 1.7 times the size of earth ...
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    [QUOTE=kirolak;855469][QUOTE=ghostrider;855345]Our little Moon doesn't even come from this UNIVERSE ... strange everything rotates except our Moon ... interesting our Moon pulled by our Sun , then pulled back by Earth creating a motion/force that stirs our oceans , which helps make air for sealife ... A cosmic engine that sustains life ... it's right there and we know so little about it ... every night we can see it , it has a pulling magical intrigue about it ... Does anyone get the idea that there is something important about our Moon we have yet to fully understand ??? A true anomaly , right next door , older than anything else around us ...exactly in the right spot to block out an object 93 million miles away ... oh If I could physically go there for a day , explore the pyramids , the crystal city , craters , domes ... magical ... it is my personal OBE vacation destination , which I will try again tonight to visit ... somebody distract the guards ...
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    Did you succeed in getting to the moon? I have not really succeeded - each time as the moon looms up in my line of vision, I get a terrible surge of fear & dread. . . & back to the body I go. Once I asked my higher self to be taken there to meet "a kindly teacher", & ended up travelling with 2 of my cats. I encountered a little balding man, who told me to make an appointment with his secretary, which I did, but was not able to keep it. We were in a rather boring, grey building with steep stairs. I have no idea whether this was on the moon or not.

    Is there something that stops us from investigating the moon? Has anyone else succeeded? Apparently there are some who have succeeded in going deep into the very body of the sun - something I would not even think of trying. Hope I'm not derailing the thread with this interjection!
    After several months of trying, I made it to the moon... I will not try again!! Here is a small chapter in The Book of Jacob, regarding my experiences projecting to the moon: Can't get to the moon...

    Quote Can’t Get to the Moon.

    Another experiment that was ongoing for several years, (and still is to an extent) is getting to the moon while out of body. I was able to travel vast distances with just a thought, so I decided that I would visit the moon and back, just to see if I could. I knew that there would be no way to verify this one, but verification was not an important factor in this experiment. I just wanted to see if I could. I tried dozens of times before I got there, but even then my vision was dark and muddy, and I could have been anywhere. Keep in mind that the ‘dozen’ times that I tried, were spontaneous experiences. I always keep journals and I always have several goals/experiments going on at one time. I often find myself completely uninterested in with my current goal (while out of body), and end up wasting my time putting my hands through walls and flying around and what not. Remember the average fully conscience OBE is only 30 seconds to a minute before it either ends, or phases into a more astral event. I thought that it would be best if I had several different experiments in mind so that I would have ‘options’ while out of body. And it is true! (At least for me.) Each time that I tried to get to the moon was a complete failure, even though I was having fairly good success with other experiments.
    My first opportunity to try came in the middle of a cluster event. A cluster event is a series of spontaneous OBE exits and re-entries. This repeats several times over five or six minutes. They are usually the most vivid and lucid OBE’s. It is like there is a tremendous amount of energy being released/discharged and re-entry is prohibited completely, and another immediate exit occurs. This creates, among other things, some pretty intense bi-location effects. Consider the following journal entry from March 29th 2007:

    March 29th 2007. Thursday.
    Afternoon nap around 1:00 or 1:30pm. Waking and drifting. Full energy body hum, no vibrations. The energy body sensations were not really that intense. Exit was fairly easy. (Roll out Method.) Recognizing that the OBE state was fairly ‘thin’, I knew that I had little time. I headed straight outside to get to one of my new goals. Getting to the moon! I noticed right away that there was way too much light. Too much… was trying to look up at the sky to locate the moon. Bad idea. From the front yard I noticed a light in the sky. A light in the N.W. sky and it was not the moon. Couldn’t get a good look at it because it relocated behind a bank of trees. As I was moving to get a better look, the ‘thin’ OBE state broke, and I was in my bed again, waking and drifting. Full energy body humming sensation was still rumbling. Exited again, roll out. Seemed to roll out right into the garage. Went through the garage door, and out into the street. I intended to locate the moon and instant-project there. I looked over and saw a copy of ME. It was looking up toward the N.W. I watched as this projected double dissipated right in front of me. And was back in my bed in an instant. Energy body sensations faded, and I reached for my journal.
    Note: I decided yesterday to add a new objective to my list of goals. Getting to the moon. I had heard about it and wanted to check it out.
    Note: I went outside to check to see where the moon is. It is a very nice day outside. I cannot see the moon, but there is a tall bank of trees obstructing the view of the N.W. sky. Do not see the moon anywhere.
    Note: Maybe multiple exits in a single session is not advisable. The OBE state seemed very delicate and the experience was very short. I also feel that I run the risk of forgetting the OBE if I don’t keep it short.
    Note: Some sort of strange bi-location/time-slip event.

    I did not get to the moon this time. It seems that I would have to come to terms with another aspect of the overall experience before I could be successful. It had to do with my fear of E.T.’s and U.F.O.’s. It seemed like the same powerful fear that I would experience in the early years. It was fear of the unknown coupled with awareness of the unknown. It was my first indication that if I was going to get to the moon, I was going to have to face some of my most primal fears. The moon was not in the sky, but there was a light that relocated itself behind a bank of trees when I noticed it. I tried hard not to think about it, but the reality of benevolent mentorship comes with the reality of E.T.’s. (Benevolent or not!) I did not want to revisit my abduction days, but I knew that the experience (at least this experiment) would not mature until I faced some of these basic fears. I was safe and back in my body for now.
    My next chance came on April 21st, not quite a month later. Another mid-day OBE that was crystal clear and lucid. I went out into the street, located the moon, charged up energy, focused all my thought and will, and, poof; NOTHING. Instant-projecting to far away locations is has been a very basic undertaking in many OBE’s. Not this one. I remember grinning and being quite tickled at the fact that something seemed to be stopping me from my ’moon-jump’ attempts. I sat Indian-style and hovered in the street with my eyes closed. I tried again. I remember feeling the same sensations that I had felt in the past when traveling long distances. Very amazing feeling. Everything went pitch black. I know that I had made it to the moon, but I had lost my vision. To make matters worse, I was suddenly hit with the strongest urge to get the hell out of there. It was sudden and intense! So, I got the hell out of there! There seems to be more to the moon than meets the eye, and I am wondering if I should continue with theses experiments. I certainly had other things that I could be doing.
    One of my final attempts to make it to the moon occurred on Sunday, May 6th 2007. After a fairly easy exit, I made it out into the dining room area before I remembered my goals/experiments. I was going to try to get to the moon again. That is where my memory of this event ends abruptly. I do not know how long it had been, but when I came to, I was sobbing from whatever had been occurring. I had a dreadful feeling about trying to get to the moon, and I had an overwhelming experience that I did not remember, but the message came through loud and clear. STAY AWAY FROM THE MOON! I wanted to remember what happened but, at the same time, I was terrified at what I thought probably happened. I do not know the details, but I feel strongly that there are intelligences that are not human that are protective of the moon! As absurd as it may sound, this is what I learned while I was out of my body! I decided that I had had enough of this particular experiment. I would still keep it on the ‘back burner’ but I will not actively pursue the moon experiments too much from here on.
    I was learning a lot. It seemed that I had opened up a can of worms. My OBE’s started becoming more ASTRAL than dense-astral, or, RTZ. The information fields that I was ‘surfing’ were not going to be kind to me. Some of the truths that we find are going to be dreadful. Much of the information is devastating, as I am becoming aware of different groups of multidimensional E.T.’s. This was not the answer that I was expecting to get. I was just trying to get to the moon for fun. Be careful what you ask for. (Or be prepared, whichever works best for you.)
    I still, have not tried to go back..

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    http://news.discovery.com/space/astr...ked-130327.htm

    Quote Common sense suggests that these two tidal bulges would be perfectly aligned with each other, but in reality, the rotation of the two objects tend to drag the bulge along a little. The end result is the extra pull from the slightly off-set bulge acts like a bicycle brake on the moon slowing its rotation to such a degree that it now takes the same time for it to orbit the Earth once as it does to rotate on its axis once.

    Therefore, the moon does rotate, just once per orbit. Its a phenomenon known as 'synchronous rotation' and is commonly seen on other 'tidally-locked' moon systems in our solar system.
    http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/moon_spin.html


    apparently the moon does rotate
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    Jake I had pretty much the same event trying to visit the sun ... I won't do that again ... there are some things that must remain hands off , until humanity reaches another level of clarity ...
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    Quote Posted by thunder24 (here)
    http://news.discovery.com/space/astr...ked-130327.htm

    Quote Common sense suggests that these two tidal bulges would be perfectly aligned with each other, but in reality, the rotation of the two objects tend to drag the bulge along a little. The end result is the extra pull from the slightly off-set bulge acts like a bicycle brake on the moon slowing its rotation to such a degree that it now takes the same time for it to orbit the Earth once as it does to rotate on its axis once.

    Therefore, the moon does rotate, just once per orbit. Its a phenomenon known as 'synchronous rotation' and is commonly seen on other 'tidally-locked' moon systems in our solar system.
    http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/moon_spin.html


    apparently the moon does rotate
    Just enough to keep it facing the earth, as the earth moves in a rotating motion. The face of the moon is always the same face, from Earth... If the moon was not 'spinning' at all,, we would be able to see the back side of it as 'we' rotate around... But it always faces the earth,,,, some have called it 'tidally locked',,, yet it still does not spin independently unto itself. Every other celestial body spins... like a top.... Not so, with the moon.

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    Excellent point on the motives behind claiming to be the one and only truth. The red flag of vanity and usually deception.

    I had a question about how vague the alien is being when describing a man-made hole that all this stuff routinely flies through. Why is it just left open? When was it made if the human cultures were just starting out in that 'time/space-shifted' portion containing that solar system? I do find it interesting that the vastness of space is multiplied by the parallel dimensions and seems to coincide with some other accounts. Who knows if the accounts influenced eachother or not.

    I always thought of the moon to be purposefully planted seeing as it has such a profound effect on the way life grows here on earth. It's like a very complex life-fertilizer. Tidally locked by design to enable one side of the surface to be built upon (along with whatever is built inside of the moon) to avoid the advancement of telescope tech on earth. To say that it got here by accident and then fell into exact place by accident.... I don't know.

    About the wandering planet. Why would a culture with the technology to destroy the wanderer not do so?

    I do like the explanation of Venus. I guess what would be necessary to verify this claim is to find the earliest recognition of Venus on earth by whatever culture. If it predates 3500 years ago, then we know the claim is false. Unfortunately, the earliest we have is Innana. And the evidence is still very thin on why scholars think Innana is a representation of Venus (and not an actual creature).

    On a side note about you guys trying to get to the moon during an OBE.... amazing. I feel like I should learn what you guys are doing. I am really enjoying this whole forum.
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    Pluto and its moon both always show the same face to each other. It's not unusual.

    Oh and I don't believe a word of what Meier says and I certainly don't work for the government.

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    I wish NASA would come clean , show the clear photos... They say the truth shall set you free , then a lie will make you a prisoner ...
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