Don't mention Dr. Judy Wood

[jerry]

Posted by AndrewJohnson (here)
I've written a lot about Architects and Engineers for 911 Lies.

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...=340&Itemid=60

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...=329&Itemid=60

Matt Naus's experience.

http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...=367&Itemid=60

Richard Gage is, indeed a liar (when it comes to 911 evidence) - listen to this clip



Then look at this image http://www.checktheevidence.com/imag...eque%20etc.jpg



Is it any wonder people don't know this when somehow, Gage manages to do 30-date tours in the US and Canada

from 2008 to 2012 AE911Truth income was $1.365 million!!! I think it's time for a tax audit...Just a thought, you know...

http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_01...990_201212.pdf

You have to approach the topic with KID GLOVES while Judy has all the stuff , its not something most of the public will give a second look at before dismissing it, Gage has it straight and anyone who will try to discredit this man is most likely a shill and has an agenda like all the others who don't buy this was an inside job

[jerry]

"Is it any wonder people don't know this when somehow, Gage manages to do 30-date tours in the US and Canada

from 2008 to 2012 AE911Truth income was $1.365 million!!! I think it's time for a tax audit...Just a thought, you know..."


This is laughable to anyone that has any "smidget" (as Obama would say) of what it cost to run the campaign Gage has run. Banners, Billboards, Books, Flyers ect, ect ,ect, its called expenses .I wouldn't be surprised to hear he's spent a lot of his own money .

[jerry]

How in the hell can you help a campaign by attacking one with the same objective at hand. And yes I get it, he took the stuff of Judy off his site ....start your own site and leave their work alone. He has made millions more awake and aware than she has. When you compare the 2 side by side, Gage makes sense to more people than Judy does, even though she may have it nailed. Anyway Gage doesn't give himself any time on the topic of the twin towers, his focus is building 7. ITS CONVINCING EVEN TO STUPID PEOPLE. BECAUSE people don't get space age weapons and the arm chair critics will dismiss it without a second look. So the point I want to make here is that any who are for adding the fringe in with the understandable, are most likely part of a campaign for the scoundrels and probably nothing more than paid shills.

[Oouthere]

Just a little evidence that at least one of Judy's "beamed" cars was moved to a different location which suggest only fire damage.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bjXMiyH4NkY

Richard Gage also withdrew his support of CIT concerning no plane impact of the Pentagon after further investigation. I think too often we veer from common sense and physical evidence and instead grasp at what we want to believe happened.

I still cannot fathom how people can believe no plane hit the Pentagon when there are pictures of aircraft debris inside and outside.



http://www.rense.com/general32/aedrive6.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general32/trou1moyenne.jpg
http://www.rense.com/general32/pentagonplanetire.jpg

And don't forget John Judge knew a flight attendant that was supposed to have been on the flight that impacted the Pentagon, but she missed the flight due to her father being ill. The flight attendant identified her best friend's severed arm by the bracelet.

John also mentions about a lady that could not talk after the impact, a piece of landing gear had partially sheered off the passenger side of her car.

And don't forget planes do burn.



And not all witnesses are right. April Gallop was seen leaving a set of normally locked double doors by SSgt Braman and at least another female I cannot currently identify, not through the impact hole as she claims. Besides, she can walk through fire? SSgt Braman had his lungs damaged from the jet fuel, complete opposite of what April claims. In her initial interview, she stated she did not remember how she got out of the building, only waking-up up at a hospital after finding her baby in the rubble. Memory loss is typical in a concussion of which she stated she received.

[AndrewJohnson]

Posted by spiritguide (here)
. Apparently you discount others knowledge of science as well. No problem, go for it. Just posted about previous articles on the different scientific perspectives on the subject for discernment.

Peace!

Oh - where do you get that idea from? Is pointing out that 2 + 2=4 "discounting someone else's knowledge" when they claim 2+2=5? Do I take it from your post that you are not willing to read my book and therefore make more statements based on assumptions rather than evidence and truth? If that is the case, just say "I am not going to read your book because I don't want to." Then at least we will all know where we stand - and that's fine. It would then just make it clearer that you are not actually making statements based on the truth, only on your assumptions of what it might or might not be.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by spiritguide (here)
Apparently you discount others knowledge of science as well.

Posted by AndrewJohnson (here)
It would then just make it clearer that you are not actually making statements based on the truth.

Seems that we've gotten distracted from the important topic by some more personal evaluations. Looking back on this thread, I can see where each of you might have good reason to figure that the other one "started it".

Nevermind who started it ... I'm hoping that I can end it ... here .

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Oouthere (here)
I still cannot fathom how people can believe no plane hit the Pentagon when there are pictures of aircraft debris inside and outside.

Judy Wood has not analyzed the Pentagon much, so far as I recall, so that's a bit off topic for this thread.

Also keep in mind that some of us are not claiming that no "flying airplane like object" hit the Pentagon ... just that it wasn't American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757-223, nor any similar such passenger jet.

[iceni tribe]

What we have here is nick-named the pit a massive amount of concrete went into the pit and the bedrock has been vitrified, in layman’s terms it means there was so much heat generated in this one spot the rock actually melted.

Dr. Christopher Busby is one of the preeminent experts on nuclear fallout and radiation.

Dr. Chris Busby is director of the independent environmental consultancy, Green Audit. He has a first-class Honours degree in Chemistry from London University and a PhD in chemical physics from the University of Kent. He is Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk and a member of the UK Department of Health Committee Examining Radiation Risk for Internal Emitters (CERRIE).
Chris also sits on the UK Ministry of Defence Depleted Uranium Oversight Board and is National Speaker on Science and Technology for the Green Party of England and Wales. Chris is a fellow of the University of Liverpool in the Faculty of Medicine. He is also scientific advisor of the Low Level Radiation Campaign which he helped to set up in 1995.

Here is a snip from a translated radio interview with host Jim Fetzer and Leuren Moret who is an independent geoscientist and Dr Busby, the whole interview can be read at the link below the interview is titled, New Bombs and War Crimes in Fallujah and what is being discussed is a new weapon.

Dr. Busby: Well, that is an interesting question there and it has to do with this story of tritium in the water in the basement of the Twin Towers. Now if you look at tritium in the Twin Towers, there is a proper, peer reviewed scientific paper by a number of quite eminent chemical analysts who measured the concentration of the element tritium, which is a form of radioactive hydrogen [used in nuclear weapons and produced in some nuclear reactions] in the basement waters of the Twin Towers, and they concluded that the amount of tritium there was absolutely impossible – it could not have got there except as a consequence of some “unusual happening”.

http://www.veteranst...es-in-fallujah/

9.11.10 by Claire Calladine, 9/11 Health Now- Brian Cosmello was the quintessential All-American--former U of PA fullback with an economics degree and a hot job on Wall St. Then 9/11 struck: A bystander caught in the dust cloud during the building collapse, Cosmello survived only to return to his job two blocks from Ground Zero for the next seven months. Eight years later at the age of 31, Cosmello was diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia his doctors attribute directly to 9/11 toxins...

Snip from article

Mind swirling from the diagnosis, Cosmello began fielding questions from the doctors: What is your profession? “Finance and investments.” Has this always been your profession? “Yes.” Where did you practice? “For the past seven years in Charlotte NC; before that, two years in the New York-New Jersey area.” Have you ever been exposed to radiation of any sort? “Excuse me?” Did your profession have you handling certain types of equipment or machinery that may have inadvertently exposed you to radiation or chemicals of any sort? “No. What? No!”


http://www.911health...Responders.html

lots more articles here

http://www.911health...thnow/Home.html

[Hervé]

Posted by iceni tribe (here)




What we have here is nick-named the pit a massive amount of concrete went into the pit and the bedrock has been vitrified, in layman’s terms it means there was so much heat generated in this one spot the rock actually melted.

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Honestly I don't see vitrified rocks.

What I see are differentially eroded bedrock layers to a high polished sheen, either via water or ice (presumably both).

[iceni tribe]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by iceni tribe (here)
i stopped listening to the Judy and Andrew show when they repeatedly deny the 3 months of heat in the pile

If you stop listening to everyone who, in your view, gets something clearly wrong ... you must be living a quiet life . We all get stuff wrong, in the light of our own hindsight or others insight ... and most of us (at least myself) do so rather frequently.

Hello Paul
Funnily enough I don’t have a quiet life, but that’s immaterial, I read and enjoyed Judy’s book and have even defended some of the points she makes, but when she is trying to sell the “hot things glow but not everything that glows is hot” line ,I don’t buy it for one second ,firstly the fire burnt until the 19th of December 2001 when New York governor George Pataki finally announces that the fires have been extinguished under the pile, this blaze represents the longest commercial building fire in American history.

Charlie Vitchers , who was in charge of the clean-up operation states

hoses melted and there was a lot of damage to tires, some of them melted just from being to close. I mean, the bottom of your shoes would melt on some of the steel. Some of that was so hot you could feel the hair on the back of your neck start to burn when you walk by. There were cherry red pieces of steel sticking out of the ground.it was almost like being in a steel manufacturing company, you just couldn’t physically go near that stuff.
Every time a grappler grabbed a piece of steel and shook it out, it would just fan the fire, like a fan in the fireplace all of a sudden there’d be smoke billowing out.
The Army Corps of Engineers eventually supplied us with infrared aerial shots where the heat was.it was like looking at the blob. The fire was moving under the pile. One day it would be hot here, it would be 1,400 degrees, and the next day it would be 2,000 degrees and then five days later it wouldn’t register over 600 degrees.

Bobby Gray crane operator at Ground Zero

depending on which way the wind was blowing, the grapplers would sometimes disappear. The smoke was that bad. The fire department was just constantly spraying water on the pile, hoping it would seep through to where the main heat was. I remember pulling columns up that were cherry red. Especially at night, that was incredible to see. A 30 foot column carried high above the ground would be cherry red. It wasn’t in molten stage, but it was certainly too hot to put on a truck because the truck beds are all wood. We’d have to leave it on the side to cool. Sometimes the fire trucks would come along and hose them down.

These are but just two eye witnesses who were there and report intense heat in the pile; I have many many more at hand, which makes me raise an eyebrow to Judy and Andrews’s denial of heat in the pile.
I also wonder where Judy’s research would have taken her if Andrew Johnson hadn’t introduced her to John Hutchinson as claimed in her earlier interviews.