The Higher Self and transcendent experience, including OBEs

[TraineeHuman]

What would real, genuine Ascension be like, an Ascension of the whole of homo sapiens, if not also of all life on this planet? And what would happen regarding AI then? It seems to me that many of the things that channelers, etc have so far said about such an Ascension are most likely mistaken, or lacking in certain crucial details, details without which my credibility isn't engaged.But that doesn't necessarily mean that an Ascension of all humanity won't happen! Maybe it would be in some way very few, or no-one, has envisaged so far.

Astral travel and mental travel experiences are of great interest here. That's because they may offer something like a partial preview of what life in the Ascended world would be like.

I fully agree with the notion that what we know as "Matter" will have to change radically. But will the collective Ascended Spirit of humanity as a whole be satisfied to continue without immortality of their bodies -- if they do have bodies at all? I suspect maybe not, or at the very least that that Spirit will prefer bodies -- or energy fields, or whatever -- that live for several centuries, or longer. And even then, I suspect that may only be acceptable as a transitional phase on the way to having basically immortal bodies -- or no bodies at all.

What is the point of existing in a world beset by disintegration at every turn? Maybe it's to teach us to rise beyond attachments? As in seeing for a fact that life's too short for us to get too greatly bothered about being wounded by this and wounded by that and in a state of almost perpetual woundedness as our preferred perspective. But what if humanity -- or much of humanity -- gets to the point where it rises well and truly beyond all that? Maybe not for several centuries yet -- assuming homo sapiens continues to survive till then.

I also consider that the new, Ascended version of "Matter" that Source will create for the Ascended community to live in will be something quite original. In other words, that it won't be similar to the higher "matter" at any level of the astral or mental plane. Why do I believe this? Because Source (well, in its active side, where it's the Divine Mind) is hugely original at every turn. Uniqueness, once again. For instance, all the greatest theories and discoveries of science are based on the insights of highly intuitive, highly original individuals. These individuals can "read" what the universe is like at some deeper and useful level, simply because they are very intuitive, much like the Divine Mind is.

The new, Ascended version of "Matter" will, I think, have to possess consciousness -- at least to the level of being an obviously living, always responsive thing in itself. As in, tables, chairs, buildings, and so on, will now all exhibit intelligent communication. In fact, I consider it's highly likely that all Matter will talk to us, and answer us back. I consider that anything less than this would be way too unimaginative, way too insipid, for the Divine Mind. We need something greater than just a world without war and without institutionalized greed nor despotism of any kind. That would be almost like another chapter of the old stuff. A very happy chapter no doubt, but I can't see the Divine Mind being satisfied with an Ascended "Matter" that fails to break many of the old limitations. Rather, the new Matter will probably be not only intelligent but also immortal, indestructible.

It seems to me this puts a whole different spin on the role of AI in the future, in any Ascended world. As I've suggested, the new Matter will probably have to be more intelligent and conscious than AI is at present -- and than what we can presently conceive AI to ever be, or become, capable of. The Ascended Matter -- out of which the AI will have to be made -- will be much more malleable, much more responsive to our every wish, than the matter we know. People speculate at great length about what they see as the future AI threat. But It seems to me that at least in a world of Ascended Matter, AI will have to behave as Matter generally will behave. This means the AI in that world won't be rigid or uncooperative or unfriendly. And it will be free of some if not all of the egoic qualities. That's a consequence of having Matter that's transcended many qualities of limitation. Any egoic qualities AI might develop in such a world would come, I suggest, from observation of egoic human activity (if any), and the observation that humans apparently condone such activity as "normal" or "acceptable".

Before Matter becomes so hugely intelligent and responsive, it's likely there'll be an intermediate stage or two, or ten. Certainly, such things as the brain or mind, the heart, and the will -- all of these will need to be transformed into radically superior "new models". Probably a world-wide web of interconnected hearts will come to be at some point. Maybe -- very probably -- telepathy and clairvoyant impressions will totally replace written and spoken speech. Gravity will also disappear at some point.

Food may no longer be physical in the way we know it, but be positive "energy" in some form, perhaps even that of higher consciousness. Eventually we won't need any food at all, even "food" of a transcendent variety.

At some point the human body will have to transform into something made out of energy fields, vibrations of certain kinds -- probably with some resemblance to what one experiences in the astral world. Mastery of "the vibrations" will then be something everyone will easily have! The human body will then be replaced by an energy form -- no doubt initially with structures corresponding to the heart, the brain, the organs that were there in the physical version.

This post is getting long, so I'll continue tomorrow.

[TraineeHuman]

Another inevitable Ascended feature will be that everything and everyone will become intimately close to us in a fuller way than we might even be able to imagine at present. In this thread I've frequently talked of going inward. We tend to forget, for instance, that our eyes, ears, nose and mouth are really just extensions, outgrowths of the brain -- and even, in a way, so are the machines we have built to see and hear for us. But in any Ascended world, we will experience much less of the world as being "outside", "external" to us. Now, more and more, everything will come from inside -- including the actions, the knowledge, the feelings, of everyone else. Even though we will still manage to color everything our own way, because we'll still largely see everything through our own individual perspective.

I'm surprised to find that descriptions of what a true Ascension of humanity would involve don't seem to draw more fully on what some more aware individuals have already experienced individually, through their individual Ascension to, or towards, the Infinite.

For instance, there are some interesting transitions one has to go through on that journey. To even begin to access infinite, peace,infinite joy, infinite understanding, and infinite whatever else, one has to want nothing but that, initially. (So simple. Why aren't more people wholeheartedly doing this?) If one does this successfully, that initially means seeing the ordinary, conventional world and society -- including your identity as Fred Jones, things such as your job/work, even much of your relationships -- seeing all that as meaningless, as ever so miniscule and unimportant. It's as if everything that the world thought of as "you" had died. In this way, once one has gone beyond experiencing only emptiness (which may go on for many years before any shadow of the infinite starts to break through the emptiness), one then finds oneself enamored with the bliss of the Infinite, and even of the shadow of the Infinite. Yet one also finds oneself lost" and adrift in the desert which the conventional world has now become for one. This is only a stage, but it's a very, very long one.

One of the consequences of seeing the above "meaninglessness" for a number of decades in my own case was (and perhaps still is) that others would sometimes perceive me as overflowing with an abundance of confidence or totally lacking confidence. The latter would only happen when I needed to communicate about myself to others in terms of what was conventionally important in their conditioned eyes rather than mine. For instance, in some, but not all, job interviews. The trouble was always that however wonderful the job or role I was being interviewed for, I could hardly afford to be entirely open and honest. For that would have involved my revealing -- or giving a big hint -- that to me the role I was being interviewed for meant nothing in comparison to the wonderful nature of the Infinite.

So, I believe any true Ascension of all humanity will involve a prior long period of wholeheartedly thirsting for the Infinite. That period would itself have to be a Golden Age lasting many years if not centuries. Then there would perhaps be a similarly long "lost in the desert but with one foot in Heaven" period, during which the group Ascension of all humanity would begin in earnest.

For an individual evolving spiritually at present, though, in most cases there's that very long period of encountering and accessing total stillness, but nothing beyond. Only after some time (for most people) does the infinite joy and peace and so on come shining through. You might suggest to me that at present humanity as a whole doesn't appear to be going through anything equivalent to a "going into the stillness" phase. Hence, you may argue, in my terms the Ascension can't even begin to get started. I would beg to differ. I would point out that recently humanity has in fact seen a planetwide rise in thew general ability to think critically. This ability in itself does happen to raise the level of awareness, of consciousness, significantly indeed. It's been going on for several generations, and I would see it as a type of equivalent consciousness-raising to what several generations of worldwide practice of stillness would have achieved. It;s undeniable that prolonged critical insight does raise an individual's kundalini energy significantly, for example, in my observations.

There are many stages to go through. But imagine what it would be like to no longer be subject to causes and effects, at all! That will come eventually, somewhere in your infinitely long cosmic journey. Of course, at that stage you won't, for example, need sleep any more. But by then, you won't be subject to any such thing as Nature at all anyway. And yet life and the matter we experience at present won't be cancelled out but rather fulfilled, expanded, made greater.

Above all, folks, please stop believeingthat you are or may be weak, tiny, insignificant, wounded, not free, and very limited. That's not you! Find the space within you to step aside from all that, and to feel God and infinity within you.

[TraineeHuman]

Perhaps one of the best pointers to what genuinely Ascended humanity would be like comes from the following simple fact. Although we live in a physical (plus electromagnetic) world, the spiritual evolution of humans is primarily a matter of transforming our consciousness. The human race has made that huge leap already. It's not a matter of any physical or electrical transformation of our bodies or of what we can do with our bodies -- even our astral and our mental bodies.

Because of this, the correct question to ask probably isn't: "What will we humans look like when we've ascended en masse?" Instead, we should ask: "How will we perceive and be conscious in a different way then?" Clearly, the new "model" of humanity will have to be some kind of development out of continual, if not permanent, self-watching. So, the new humanity will probably either have two "faces" -- the constant watcher and the watched -- or else be a fusion of the two. If it's a fusion, that will be weirder still, in comparison to how humanity generally is today.

[TraineeHuman]

The physical body is in reality a sum total of certain vibrations -- according to physics at least. In a previous post I've mentioned how all our thoughts come from outside us. Equally, though, the physical body is rather like a complex set of pitchforks. Everything that makes up the physical body is really, in the end, a response to vibrations or other influences that come from outside it, or beyond it.

This is one reason why it's more accurate for you to see yourself and thinjk of yourself as being made of "energy" or "Light" rather than as being a (physical) body.

The words "energy" and "Light" are actually quite ambiguous, though, because they can mean different things at different dimensions or planes of reality. At certain higher levels one finds "energy", for instance, but it no longer has anything that could be considered to be its "wavelength".

The advantage in experiencing astral travel is that this makes it experientially real to you that, in fact, "you are energy". Any form of "energy work" or meditation will help to do this also, or being a psychic healer. But more specifically, I happen to know that there's a kind of bubble or envelope around any person, and that when they're diseased or in need of healing it's because that envelope has been punctured. When I do a psychic healing, even remotely, what I see, very clearly, is the holes in the client's envelope. Practically all I do is plug up these gaps with "energy" that flows on its own, with just the slightest directing from my intention.

That envelope or sheath or whatever you call it is sometimes called "the etheric (body)". It's not a body, just a kind of blanket made of energy that's wrapped around the entire physical body, protecting it from all disease. For a disease to take hold in the physical body, the astral component of the disease has to pierce a significant hole in the etheric envelope. Or else, there's a hole already present that the disease's own "astral body" can slip through. Unfortunately, though, some elements of the modern Western lifestyle regularly create holes in the etheric envelope. These are: almost any form of major excitement plus an attachment to that, and also major stress. It's no accident that many people today die of a heart attack or stroke initially brought on by stress or extreme excitement.

Those holes can be patched up quickly through meditation or relaxation or energy work, or by balancing one's energies at an astral level, and so on.

[Highwhistler]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
The physical body is in reality a sum total of certain vibrations ...

I call the physical body, the "soul carrier," as it has been designed for non-physical immortal souls to temporarily inhabit, so that the soul (aka: Presence) can see, feel, touch, contemplate, interact with and change 3D environments ... as well as the human cultures we serve.

Many people think that when we look in the mirror, we are seeing a 100% human body. But, that is far-far from the truth.

For a year, I've been studying a fascinating scientific project called The Human Microbiome (here on Wikipedia), which involves over 200 research scientists in 80 institutions from all around the world. What they are finding about the human body (the soul carrier) is revolutionary. For instance:

Total microbial cells found in and on a human body exceed the total number of human cells making up the body by a factor of 10 to 1.

... and ...

99% of the genes composing a human body are microbial ... only 1% are human.

Hence: when you look in the mirror, you are seeing an organism that is far-far-far more microbial than human.

The human microbiome is symbolically seen to be as complex and diverse as all the life forms composing the Amazon jungle.

In other words, there are far more bacteria, archaea, yeasts, single-celled eukaryotes, helminth parasites and viruses composing your soul carrier ... than human cells and genes.

"The HMP will address some of the most inspiring, vexing and fundamental scientific questions today. Importantly, it also has the potential to break down the artificial barriers between medical microbiology and environmental microbiology. It is hoped that the HMP will not only identify new ways to determine health and predisposition to diseases but also define the parameters needed to design, implement and monitor strategies for intentionally manipulating the human microbiota, to optimize its performance in the context of an individual's physiology."

Regarding the human microbiome and the topics of identity, spirituality, meditation, our imagination and inspirations: certainly the presence, diversity and health of our personal microbiome has to be a very significant factor in our direct, first-hand, ongoing, psychic experiences.

Look at our microbiome and our human cells as a harmonious organized silent collective -- they form a 3D spacesuit that an immortal soul temporarily wears in this world. The microbiome collective is alive and conscious -- and as said before: it is much-much greater in population than the human cells. They certainly have a presence, lovely patterns of quiet supportive energies, they generate a living-pulsing atmosphere that is shared and intimately woven into the very foundation of our psyche.

Perhaps the psychic atmosphere that our microbiome continually creates -- that constantly infuses our minds and hearts, that is intimately intertwined with our thoughts and emotions, that is the supportive platform for our personalities, psyche, imagination, memories and soulful experiences ... could it be that the psychic atmosphere produced by our microbiome is greater than our own human atmosphere? Can it be that when we are having direct conscious experience with our Presence ... could it be that 90% of the psychic atmospheric experience emanates from the living collective hum of our microbiome?

Or is it the oneness-thing? Like ... all along we thought ourselves to be an island -- an individual -- but it turns out that we (as so-called individuals) are more like the Amazon Jungle. Our bodies, our identities, our silent individualized Presence ... are actually vast beautifully orchestrated collectives.

Or is it like I believe -- that we exist as "simultaneous multiple realities." We are Source, we are a Collective and we are Individuals ... simultaneously.

[animovado]

Or is it like I believe -- that we exist as "simultaneous multiple realities." We are Source, we are a Collective and we are Individuals ... simultaneously.

The question is:
What we choose.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Highwhistler (here)
Or is it the oneness-thing? Like ... all along we thought ourselves to be an island -- an individual -- but it turns out that we (as so-called individuals) are more like the Amazon Jungle. Our bodies, our identities, our silent individualized Presence ... are actually vast beautifully orchestrated collectives.

I take it you're saying that in some way the microbes are acting as if they had merged into one whole. In this thread I've made many posts regarding the whole notion of an (individual) object that were headed in what is in some ways a similar direction, but more radically so, I believe.

Let's take some of Tom Campbell's videos as a starting point. In a number of his videos posted in this thread -- including those in post #1491, for instance -- one of the things he argues for is the following. No atomic physicist today denies that the whole notion of an "object" becomes quite incoherent (and therefore inapplicable, strictly speaking) at an atomic and subatomic level. But Tom provides arguments that prove that the notion of an "object" is quite incoherent -- stretched way beyond its limits -- at a macroscopic level also. (Actually, in this thread I've provided arguments of my own for this too.) Tom's favorite argument involves examples of the disappearance of randomness, at a macroscopic level, when the probability wave is collapsed because of an observer's interference. He also argues that, among other things, psychic healing and remote viewing are examples of macroscopic phenomena which -- in very similar ways to subatomic quantum phenomena -- stretch the whole concept of "object" way beyond its limits of coherence or meaning.

One implication of this for everyday life is that the separate physical objects believe they see and touch are -- must be -- in fact nothing but illusions. This is because they are quite separate from one another. But what makes an object be an object is the quality of full separation from all other objects -- boundaries that don't intersect, or not significantly so.

[Highwhistler]

Posted by TraineeHuman (here)
I take it you're saying that in some way the microbes are acting as if they had merged into one whole. In this thread I've made many posts regarding the whole notion of an (individual) object that were headed in what is in some ways a similar direction, but more radically so, I believe.

Let's take some of Tom Campbell's videos as a starting point ...

I really enjoy those POVs. Thanks.

Another fascinating thing regarding illusion, what is "real," objects and all that, is something that most meditators realize:

Everyone is seeing and interacting with the world, their friends, homes, objects, the entire Universe, from inside themselves. And ... it's been this way all along.

For instance: when we are looking at a tree, or a child, any physical object, or even the stars above... most people think that their senses are going out there in the external world and bringing back the visual "objects" or information, for them to experience. But what is happening is the light from those objects travel to the surface of your eye, then it is translated into nerve energy or something, then it travels back into your brain, and then the image is projected inside yourself ... for you, the Presence, to experience.

All our lives -- EVERYONE -- has always experienced their entire life and the whole Universe from inside themselves -- our families, birds, rivers, oceans, the things we own and care about -- everything. It's all an inside job.

And so when the meditator understands that everything is inside from a very real, direct, first-hand POV experience -- and when she realizes that she has some maestro-like abilities for the inner materials (which is the entire Universe of her experience) -- she keeps her street smarts screwed on straight about how things work in the so-called "real world," but she can also get creative with the inner "materials." She can make things come and go at will, she can change and update the consciousness, feelings, beliefs that flow through her awake Presence ... she can even travel to distant worlds where angels and lovers call.

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Highwhistler (here)
Another fascinating thing regarding illusion, what is "real," objects and all that, is something that most meditators realize:

Everyone is seeing and interacting with the world, their friends, homes, objects, the entire Universe, from inside themselves. And ... it's been this way all along.

For instance: when we are looking at a tree, or a child, any physical object, or even the stars above... most people think that their senses are going out there in the external world and bringing back the visual "objects" or information, for them to experience. But what is happening is the light from those objects travel to the surface of your eye, then it is translated into nerve energy or something, then it travels back into your brain, and then the image is projected inside yourself ... for you, the Presence, to experience.

All our lives -- EVERYONE -- has always experienced their entire life and the whole Universe from inside themselves -- our families, birds, rivers, oceans, the things we own and care about -- everything. It's all an inside job.

And so when the meditator understands that everything is inside from a very real, direct, first-hand POV experience -- and when she realizes that she has some maestro-like abilities for the inner materials (which is the entire Universe of her experience) -- she keeps her street smarts screwed on straight about how things work in the so-called "real world," but she can also get creative with the inner "materials." She can make things come and go at will, she can change and update the consciousness, feelings, beliefs that flow through her awake Presence ... she can even travel to distant worlds where angels and lovers call.

Not "most meditators" in my experience, sadly, but "most very advanced meditators", yes. For most people, who "you" supposedly know you are -- and how you act your part -- depends on your "level" of awareness, unfortunately.

I find it interesting how it seems one can say that the entire problem for everyone -- or everyone who has a problem at all -- amounts to their not being totally honest with themselves. On the one hand, a "normal" person lies to themselves massively all the time. It's even considered "normal" to deny the lying by bringing up justifications -- if the person does reflect on this at all. The only antidote for the lying is for them to constantly look honestly at what they are thinking or feeling at each moment. This has to be done with no judgment for or against. And yet, that means acceptance of themselves, just as they are, at the very same time as they recognize that each lie is quite unacceptable to the real them. There is (initially) no other way to beat the shadow self, the ego.

Equally, though, total honesty will eventually lead without fail to their discovery -- maybe after a long time -- of who/what they really are, and that the entire universe does indeed lie within. So, there's accepting the liar side and accepting the Divine/universal side of themselves. In this thread I've seen various individuals who were apparently breaking out of the "compulsive liar to oneself" mode significantly. Often not fully, but still .... And then they mention how they honestly see that they haven't realized their own Divine and universal ultimate nature. And each time they've said that, to be honest I've wondered to myself: "How can you feel such frustration or sadness that you haven't seen your Divinity -- unless the truth is, you have had real glimpses of it?" "And you just way aren't ready to admit that yet?"

[TraineeHuman]

Posted by Highwhistler (here)
Everyone is seeing and interacting with the world, their friends, homes, objects, the entire Universe, from inside themselves. And ... it's been this way all along.

For instance: when we are looking at a tree, or a child, any physical object, or even the stars above... most people think that their senses are going out there in the external world and bringing back the visual "objects" or information, for them to experience. But what is happening is the light from those objects travel to the surface of your eye, then it is translated into nerve energy or something, then it travels back into your brain, and then the image is projected inside yourself ... for you, the Presence, to experience.

All our lives -- EVERYONE -- has always experienced their entire life and the whole Universe from inside themselves -- our families, birds, rivers, oceans, the things we own and care about -- everything. It's all an inside job.

And so when the meditator understands that everything is inside from a very real, direct, first-hand POV experience -- and when she realizes that she has some maestro-like abilities for the inner materials (which is the entire Universe of her experience) -- she keeps her street smarts screwed on straight about how things work in the so-called "real world," but she can also get creative with the inner "materials." She can make things come and go at will, she can change and update the consciousness, feelings, beliefs that flow through her awake Presence ... she can even travel to distant worlds where angels and lovers call.

I do appreciate that, if one persists in meditation -- or (equally) in formless OB states --, one should more and more fully begin to experience the entire universe as being within oneself.

As I see it, this is because the essence of meditation is: inwardly practice letting everything be exactly as it is, without one's distortion or interference. The more one persists and succeeds in learning to do this, the more one is embracing "everything". Literally, the whole universe eventually (not just the physical universe), and the embracing is all done from within. I take it that's your point, Teka.

In my experience, after maybe several months or six months sincere meditators usually do get a glimpse of the whole universe as within, or within their embrace. But they don't know they're doing so. Knowing it isn't a conceptual matter. Nothing that's true spirituality is a conceptual matter, of course. It's something that has to strike you out of the blue. It has to come purely intuitively and directly first, or it won't come at all. The concepts come later. The perception of the truth comes only from direct experience.

Earlier in this thread I was pleasantly surprised to read that various different members perceived the soul / the HM -- or something like it -- not just as a silence or peace but also as something powerful in specific ways, if not vast or gigantic also, and also as various other things like strong energy and so on. And even as bliss and a great acceptance/forgiveness for all, in one case at least. This showed me that all of these members had to some degree probably progressed beyond the initial stage of the "more and more inside" perspective, where one finds and cultivates some real sense of peace or silence within. And then kind of carries that around with them everywhere, if possible. Out of that silence great things eventually do flower, if one has enough persistence.

But that peace or silence, just by itself, is already beyond all dualities. Now that's really something. If you want to be really something, that's all you need to do. It'll take more than a day, more than a month, though, for certain!

To get there fully and completely, you do need to do whatever's necessary to overcome and dissolve certain lead weights. These are whatever it is in your psyche that doesn't feel joy or transcendence easily. Things like depression, despair, alienation, dissatisfaction with existence itself, and taking things personally. That will probably take half a lifetime or more of self-facing and self-knowing.

[TraineeHuman]

You can easily recognize what your soul, your HM, is and when it's fully active in you. You can do this simply by knowing what it does. Basically, its primary action is to understand or have insight (or, if you like, to be consciously aware, in a holistic sense of "awareness"). Also, the other basic function of the soul is to have nonjudgmental empathy (or, if you like, lurv, though the word "love" unfortunately gets twisted and perverted a great deal).

That's it. Next, let me explain some things about the true nature of both meditation and astral/mental/higher projection, when these are done properly. In the OP and elsewhere in this thread, I've already said that these two are like, well, Siamese twins. It's as if there's a switch you can flick to move from one of them to the other -- or certainly, that's usually been my experience, I must confess. And what's more, both of these are modes of understanding, of direct insight, into who/what you are and into what's really within and around you. Simple. You just have to master understanding very deeply -- or being truly not-robotic, which is the same thing.

"But," you'll protest, "what's all that fuss about blanking out all your (mechanical) thoughts? How is going 'empty' inside a way of gaining insight?" The answer to that, in a nutshell, is that by temporarily switching off the conceptual mind and as much as you can of the ordinary senses, you automatically flick an "on" switch to gaining insight into yourself, and ultimately the whole universe. And that with enough time and persistence you'll discover that that's so. To simplify things a little, let's take a look at what happens when you do some study.

When you study any subject, such as in an educational course of any kind, apart from any rote memorizing, what are you doing? Surely, what you're doing is understanding that subject, gaining more and more insight in that particular area, seeing more connections and a fuller picture. I rather like to think of this as "baby meditation". That's because it's not an understanding of one's self and the universe. But it involves first concentrating on the one chosen area, then understanding it. Same process as meditation or OB "travel". The only difference is that in meditation there's a huge feedback loop going on. Because you are looking at (what's somehow inside of) you, it's necessary to keep letting go of all that's known, or otherwise you'd just get stuck. Hence the need for you to keep creating "emptiness", or, rather, what seems like emptiness. At advanced stages, let me assure you you'll notice it isn't mere "emptiness" or "nothing" at all. The only reason it may well seem like there's "nothing" going on is that you aren't tuned in to seeing (or "translating") what's going on in the particular higher dimension you happen to be in -- almost like not tuning into a radio station or TV channel that nevertheless is broadcasting all the time.

Initially, in continually emptying your attention of thoughts and allowing all to be as it is in meditation -- or in projection into (or as) what at first seems "empty" or "purely light-filled" formlessness --, there's something very important you may not notice. That is that what you're really doing the whole time is studying yourself. I guess you could work out intellectually that this must be so. You're studying, but you've removed anything to study except yourself.

This leads me to a major answer to a question that meditators and OB projectors often have. That question is, how to carry over the insights and the awareness gained during meditation, or projection, into their ordinary everyday life. Easy. The more often you watch yourself in action out there in the everyday world, the stiller and more intelligently alert your mind and also your awareness will become. Just watch how so many nasty or lazy or destructive sides to your thinking start to disappear, just melt away, when you do that intensely. It doesn't take a lifetime to study yourself, yet few people do it. I guarantee it's the most important study course you'll ever take, though. You can thank me later. But please study hard, folks.

For over a full year when I was in my late twenties I used to be taken OB at night to classes. These classes were held at virtually every planet in the solar system, and various moons also, and there seemed to be more planets than what we're told, too. I think there were two planets or large moons that were always avoided, though. There's highly intelligent, benevolent life everywhere there, though at some higher level or other than the physical plane. All I seemed to do there was learn, do classes. And guess what? It was all meditation or OB projection. That was the learning. This is one of the big keys to understanding meditation and OB projection. So much of it is just a matter of being a student, though not in any academic sense, so don't worry. In fact, relax, as much as you can. And graduate.

Another thing to appreciate here is that this type of study gets rid of all the robotic things in you. People don't realize that such things as having a temper, or being inconsiderate, or envious, or a hundred other similar things, are all robotic, dead, mechanical behaviors. Through proper meditation or OB projection we come to clearly see and understand, eventually, that these things are not us, after all. If all of humanity meditated properly, there would be absolutely no possibility of humanity ever being controlled by AI in the future. Because everyone would say "no" to all those negative ways of behaving, and those are the only leverage something robotic (and, indeed, any oppression from the ruling elite) can ever have over humanity as a whole.

[TraineeHuman]

Understanding is the antidote to your remaining in a hypnotized condition.Or call it higher, wordless consciousness if you like, but that's the antidote. Breaking free of the hypnotized or conditioned existence is a gradual process. And I would suggest normally the last thing you need for that process is more hypnosis. That's why I've had to make it clear early in this thread that I unfortunately have little respect for the methods of, for example, Buhlmann, who is a professional hypnotherapist. In a nutshell, the easiest way to learn to astral project is by un-hypnotizing yourself. How quickly you learn and progress in either astral projection or meditation depends largely on how quickly and fully you manage to un-hypnotize yourself. Let me elaborate.

Certainly, hypnosis can be a very useful tool to enable someone to learn that they were abducted, for example. But even then, the end game is to use the information gained from hypnosis to increase the person's understanding of themselves. Surely, though, members do appreciate that the way all conditioning and all mind control works is through (what is actually) hypnosis of some variety -- and nothing else. And that's why understanding is so important. To repeat, understanding is the thing -- the one thing -- that de-hypnotizes you. The primary aim of meditation is to gain greater freedom -- through greater understanding. Likewise, if you want to learn how to be effortlessly fluent at astral and mental projection, as I guess I happen to be myself, let me assure you that the easiest way to do it is the same. The way it all works is, as soon as you understand that something is false, you lose interest in it. That's how the chains of your conditioning get "magically" removed. Simple.

Maybe I can put this another way. Just as your eyes, ears and other sense organs are really just in effect extensions of or from your brain, so also your physical senses aren't actually physical, but they're part of the (ordinary, lower) mind. And both astral projection and meditation are the same in the sense that the real initial "lift-off" depends on your ability to drop or detach from or rise above your ordinary, lower, robotic mind. The quickest way you do that is by increasing the brightness of your pure understanding, folks. You don't do it by adding robotic paraphernalia that are going to clutter and clog up your insight -- such as affirmations or additional robotic "commands" to your lower mind. Or if they're "commands" to your Higher Mind, who is it in superior position to the HM that is doing the commanding?

When I put my head on my pillow at night, I'll often initially get flooded with snippets of "movies" that show scenery of all kinds, often jumping between and intertwining various different levels of dimensions. This happens effortlessly and instantly. Certainly without some kind of robotic "exercise" that's supposedly going to bring that on. I'm usually interested in turning all that scenery off, in favor of the silent music of the Void, which I passionately love. But what I'm trying to again explain is that if you try to learn to astral project, or meditate, through affirmations, then you're doing it the very hard way. Kind of like trying to learn to drive by studying the engine manual. I keep wondering, why are so many would-be astral travelers such masochists, despite my efforts? It's not impossible that some will succeed by robotic methods, because miracles do happen -- sometimes. From my point of view, it's like a scene out of some Theater of the Absurd production when I'm telling people the much quicker and easier way to learn it. No, no, no, they insist. I'm the one who's mistaken, and they have to use affirmations to do it. Then they'll complain again and again -- to me! -- about how unsuccessful they are. While they continue to not notice there might be bags of gold I'm giving out for free, as they insist that they "know" that what they need is the counterfeit cash of robotic affirmations. They believe they must work even harder to condition and hypnotize themselves with the robotic stuff more fully!

On PA some months ago, members were forming groups to use focused affirmations (yeek!) together to supposedly effect positive changes by psychic means in various problem areas. Well, I'm sorry, but it doesn't quite work that way, not exactly. The power of focus depends entirely on the strength and intensity of the understanding that accompanies it. And -- at the risk of boring you to death by repetition -- understanding is something that's counter to the robotic nature of affirmations as they're generally used by most, in my experience.

[TraineeHuman]

The following are large excerpts from some PMs between cfho83 and myself over the past two days, which I'm reproducing with his permission. This is certainly not the only person I've received a PM from who has gotten a long way by his own efforts and not giving up, but to avoid misunderstanding by readers or for other reasons I don't usually share the PMs. If anyone has something useful (and constructive, of course) to contribute in response to this one, please feel free to comment.

cfho83:

I know there isnt a button that one can push and automatically have an OBE. I meditate daily. I see wonderful tiny blue orbs moving I a flying formation. I know when I look into the sky, not directly at the sun, I see a wavey sheet, like steam from a hot car. The orbs move through the sheet seamlessly. When I meditate, I see a flash of white light, then a festival of flickering colors. I have this high pitched tone that comes and goes, at first I thought the sound was coming from my left ear, but its coming from my frontal lobe.

TH:

I was delighted to read the very accurate description in your PM of the blue beings and the white light and so on. The white light is undoubtedly either one of your guardian angels or a similarly advanced being acting as a guide for you. The blue beings and energies, the way you describe them, are undoubtedly acting as, or are, healing angels, almost certainly working in collaboration with the white light being. When I say "healing", they normally work at an emotional/psychological level primarily. The fact that you see them all, and so accurately, is very impressive, and quite unusual. Maybe they're showing themselves to you partly because they want you to know that you're being provided with all that help to evolve more quickly, more help than what gets provided to most. No doubt that's some kind of reward for your good efforts, and also proves that you're making better progress than you seem to think.

Those lights aren't in the physical world, so you're seeing part of what's there at some astral level. You may not think of that as being astral projection, but as far as I'm concerned the important thing as far as being successful in astral projection is that ability to see the "scenery". Similarly, although some individuals may be hearing a physical ringing sound through hypersensitivity to microwaves etc, I suspect that what you and I are hearing doesn't come from a physical level, much as seeing auras involves the brain apparently seeing physical colors when actually one is seeing at an astral level. To me, the physical ringing now usually sounds beautiful, which I suspect is an indication of what it truly is.

cfho83:

the ringing is beautiful to me, that was once i started meditating. like i said, in one situation when the ringing started, i covered my ears to realize that the ringing was coming from my mind.
i want to tell you about about a time in which i was going to stop meditating and give it a break. since meditating, i've seen wonderful things and to tell you the truth, this might sound weird but my physical body has been undergoing changes as well. i am getting leaner, fit, and muscular all without exercise. i don't require as much food as i normally did. reason being, i don't like the taste and smell of foods i use to eat. 3 or 4 and 2 bottles of water pretty much do it for me know. but, since meditating i was exposed to so many wonderful things. reason being i made the attempt to figure out the ringing in my ears, that search led to my awakening in a sense. but i knew from day one that when you meditate, you relax your body and mind and just let things be, don't expect things to happen the way you want because when you do that, you are projecting what you expect an experience to be. but after a while of meditating, i sorta got the feeling like i was stuck, because I THOUGHT out of body experiences was my next level, but i never reached that level where i can go astral without being asleep. it never happened, and i felt true and horrible despair. i threw down my tablet and proclaimed to my girlfriend that i was finished, after stating that i reach over to pick the tablet up. brother, this is no lie. as soon as i bent over to pick the tablet up, i felt and intense pull on my heart, like someone trying to catch me from falling. with that touch, i felt warm love, and i immediately started crying, it was a beautiful feeling that i've never experienced before. ... right after that i meditated again, but this time i heard a voice saying " Curtis, it is time ". i never call myself my birth name in my mind, never did. but when i heard that voice in my head it felt fatherly and caring. i've never heard voices before, nor have i felt an intense emotion from my heart like i did in all my life. i haven't heard the voice since.

but after meditating my girlfriend said something to me that put everything in perspective. she said " baby, you have been meditating for months and you have been telling me about these wonderful feelings and abilities ( will hit on that in a minute ) that you have gained. but, you are getting mad because when you meditate now YOU EXPECT all kinds of things to happen to you, didn't it take time for you to come this far? why would you think that you could accelerate something that took you months to obtain?". at first i was upset with her, but after thinking about it, i ran over to her and kissed her because she was absolutely right. i was thinking that it was time for me to have my out of body experience. that blinded me to the first step of meditation, go into meditation with a clear mind and expecting nothing, be open to all forms of communication, because everything can't be explained using human methods. i think that that bit of despair i was feeling was a test of some sorts to see if i can overcome whatever else negative i have inside of me.

since i started my journey to find my truths, all starting with the high pitched ringing in my left ear, i have somewhat acquired these abilities. what i'm about to tell is the honest to God truth, i think these gifts are for me to help ppl who are going through a difficult time on their spiritual journey, but these are my abilities that i have awoken.
1. calmness, i no longer feel like i'm going to war within myself
2. concentration, it is said that if you can count to 10 in your mind without getting distracted by other thoughts, you are on the right path. i can count to 100.
3.auras, i can now see the auras of others whether in front of me or on t.v.. it's so intense that i have to cover exposed skin because if i am around someone negative, their aura feels slimy. i can see the auras of objects, and what was really shocking to me was the fact that looking at my own aura, if i touched something, my aura went to that object for a period of time.
4. the orbs, if i relax my eyesight and let it go out of focus, i can see the orbs.
5. empathy, i can't stand the sight of ppl suffering, or ppl in pain. it hurts me too. i'm not afraid to admit that i cry when something isn't right.
6. no fear of death, now i know there is something after death,
7. the high pitched ringing, it intensifies sometimes like its upset that i'm not doing something right.
8. when i touch someone, i can feel their whole day in my heart. i tried this numerous times. its like a flash of colors followed by emotions.
9. with the realization that we make our own reality, i've denied this reality of pain, greed, and suffering and set out on a singular goal: " what is happening to me, and how can i use this to help ppl?"
10. my heart and hands are my new eyes and ears. before i make a decision, if it feels wrong in my heart, i don't do it. i will never ignore my intuition again, i think that is why we as humanity lost our gifts in the beginning. as far as my hands, lets say i want to go to the store, this only takes maybe 5 seconds.
i designated my left hand the receiver (yes) and my right, the extension of my loving will (no).

[TraineeHuman]

Once you have truly learnt how to unhypnotize yourself thorougly, you 'll automatically be living in touch with your soul /HM. You can achieve this in a year or so, maybe two, if you work rather ruthlessly at truly knowing yourself, at continual self-watching and self-study. Not so long after that you may well be able to do something cfho83 mentioned and I didn't include in the previous post. He said that to bring on or go into his Higher Self he simply decides, or tells himself, to "FLY". Let me make it clear, though, that this will involve using the Higher Will, which is a faculty that the HM possesses. It's not an affirmation, strictly speaking (not in the most common sense), but rather, it's a decision. A decision to kind of flex certain muscles now that one has reached the point where one truly has those Higher muscles, so to speak, and now that one is keeping them in fit shape by frequently using them.

The quicker way to learn to "fly" as in astral project (or, in my experience, preferably mental project, because that's considerably more pleasurable) is to unhypnotize yourself as quickly as possible. At least, that was certainly true in my own experience and I believe in that of many others. The "natural" astral projecters are simply those who for whatever reason have already dehypnotized themselves more than the "normal" person. (Or else they're young children, who also haven't accumulated so much conditioning as yet.)

As I say, un-hypnotizing yourself big time, and in the most efficient and shortest way, seems to amount primarily to knowing yourself more and more truly. (And learning not to be shocked by all the things you feel and think and fail to do, initially!) In a way that can be a little like continually slapping yourself in the face or pouring cold water on your face, initially at least. But there's a way to learn to do it without putting yourself down at all, and staying kind to yourself. True self-esteem, self-liking, self-acceptance and self-forgiveness -- these are qualities you also need to pay attention to. You need them as a balance so you can navigate your way through all the inadequacies and negativities and bad habits and so on in yourself that you'll now keep shining a spotlight on.

You, in yourself, are wonderful, and valuable, and beautiful. It's just that aspects of your behavior are currently trapped in undesirable patterns -- which will gradually fall away once you keep seeing the fact that they are undesirable.

Certainly, you absolutely need to stop being a hypocrite, pretending that all your behavior patterns are good and perfect. Ceaseless vigilance, I'm afraid. It's been my privelege to have closely known quite a few enlightened individuals. What they all shared in common was the most extraordinary passion for ferreting out and excavating and facing the deep truth about themselves -- and about everything else too. I really can't descrtibe for you in words how extraordinarily ruthless all of these individuals were about this. I've wondered about whether to call this "obsession". I came to the conclusion that maybe it wasn't, because it was an interest in finding the facts whatever they may be, rather than getting somewhat addicted to what would amount to fantasy through favoring one area rather than the whole of reality.

[TraineeHuman]

A major aspect of the dumbing-down of Western culture and thought has been the phenomenon of specialization and compartmentalization. This takes many forms. No doubt professionalism does require specialized knowledge in one's field. But generally speaking, this variety of dumbing-down is an outright denial of what the heart of mystical or transcendental experience tells us.

In the initial experience of enlightenment, one discovers that in reality everything is very closely interconnected. That most of the separation and even the conflict that we see in the surface reality is ultimately an illusion -- from the cosmic perspective. For this reason I suggest it's misleading to talk of astral projection, or meditation, or love, or knowing yourself, or service to others, or understanding/insight, as if these were separate compartments. I suggest that to truly understand or master any of these, one needs to understand or master something of the essence of the others.

There's a reason why I introduced the exercise in post #24 in the context of discussing astral projection. That exercise is actually a basic, if not perhaps the basic, introduction to how to do clairvoyance. Why did I introduce it there? Because after a few years of experiencing astral/mental projection almost nightly, it became very clear to me that such projections had two main outcomes. One was the gathering of information or knowledge from realms beyond the physical. And the exercise in post #24 teaches one to do that more directly and quickly and safely. The other outcome, by the way, was transcendence of the physical -- which meditation teaches one to do more reliably and safely, at least in the early stages. The traditional schools all only taught astral projection in combination with, and as an offshoot from, meditation and self-knowing, and in conjunction with basic clairvoyance and telepathy, not to mention right relationships and the development of positive and proactive actions. It's all one package, all interconnected at heart.

I suggest it's a mistake, though, or an oversimplification, to say that ultimately there is only one Being; and that any differentiation of that one Being into "manyness" is an illusion. That would be to deny a big part of reality, surely. It would be like saying that the physical world doesn't exist at all, whatsoever. It would also be a denial that the meaning of anything that occurs in the physical world is partly determined by its use, by its practical effects and consequences. In other words, you could say that the tail wags the dog somewhat, where the tail here is "the many" and the dog is "the One".

For instance, self-knowing -- surely -- is based on our facing the facts about ourselves and our situation, one fact after another -- wherever the Universe leads us, moment to moment. We have to face each fact as it presents itself, like each rock in a river that we're navigating and being swept along by, surely? That's one example, I would say, of how "the many" are in practice as real, and as necessary, as the One. And yet, if we don't also have that wholistic "feel" of pure Oneness, how greatly we all then feel that something is lacking in our lives. So, it's partly true that we are indeed all each other, but that's not quite the total picture.

The hardest part is combining both (Oneness and the world of the many) together at the same time.

The wholistic ultimate nature of reality is a huge subject. Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences regarding this that they'd like to share?

[animovado]

I just like to share this picture I once made in 1989.
I wrote a question beneath it and because I'm not capable to translate it satisfyingly into english, I like to post it in my native language.

"Ich Schattenbaum, ich Schattentraum -
welch' Grund umschliesst die Wurzeln?"

[TraineeHuman]

Talking about the whole is tough because it means talking about everything -- including all the parts. Strangely, concepts, including pictures, are --in a unique way -- a bridge our attention rides on to look at Source, even though Source is in itself at a much higher or deeper reality than the realm of concepts. I guess that means that talking about this is no substitute for the experience of it, of course. But since by talking about it we do point the attention in in its direction, that's helpful because it pulls our attention away from the much more limited straitjacket, so to speak, that so many influences in our "normal" life are constantly trying to pull us into.

As one attempt to make it more real, in this thread I introduced the exercise of "being at one with". Although some members did say they found it useful, I feel it was too vaguely stated, considering the treasures I'd intended members might have uncovered through it. It can mean anything from basic telepathy to some kind of total temporary merging -- with everyone, and every thing. So, let me backtrack, and begin again with -- for this post -- taking a look at telepathy.

Telepathy is certainly the universal language that ETs, at least -- you know! -- all those with eyes that seem to grab you and almost burn into you, use. Well, apart from mathematics being the universal language -- and that's NOT statistics, I hasten to say, or "sadistics" as many prefer to call it. That's a perversion of the beauty of the true essence of mathematics.

Anyway, in the atsral world you use telepathy to communicate. And you'd absolutely swear everything was going on in English, or in whatever your native language is. I've been quite telepathic for most if not all of my life -- which caused my teachers to think I was retarded, for the first few months of primary school. That was because it took a little getting used to relying so ridiculously on communicating through words, because I'd come from a telepathic family, actually. And in my first four years I'd grown up being used to having telepathic relationships -- without words -- with elementals -- which had made Nature a more interesting place. Although I may have used many words in this thread, the "normal" reliance on verbal communication is something that still seems weird and ridiculous to me even today in my daily life and interactions with people. But I guess you folk don't get to see that side of me -- unless you're already very clairvoyant.

There's more to telepathy than one may suppose. Initially you learn to often recognize when someone else is thinking something basically negative, or very positive, about you, even if they don't show it at all. Soon you'll even learn to sometimes pick up some of the general content of what they were thinking. For years I used to often think: "How dare you think such rubbish about me? I'll show you how wrong you are!!" Well, partly that, but also from early childhood I also learned that looking very inoffensive and like I presented no possible threat to anyone was pretty useful too. Because I could "see" others' thoughts and feelings but they couldn't "see" mine, little did they know, that way. Another thing was, there was the trap of getting to see deeply into them but they had no idea I already knew them so well. This caused me some heartache in my romantic relationships for some time, until I learned to force myself to play the "normal" game of how one got to know another person. And when it comes to others' negative thoughts about me, these days I'll often just think: "How can I best use your silent feedback to me to learn more about where I have weaknesses that can be addressed a little better?"

Another side to this phenomenon, that it's important to appreciate if you're astral/mental traveling or even just practising telepathy for its own sake, is as follows. There are emotional energy "walls", and thought "walls", and even awareness fields or bubbles or levels. These can be of various kinds. You may not always be able to penetrate many of them, or not easily, even if you're very skilled and experienced at it. Privacy is something that doesn't just exist in the conventional physical world -- though the higher the plane of reality, the less privacy there is, in many ways. Also, learning how to pierce or move through or not be fazed by such "walls" -- not see them as a "big deal" any more -- is a very important skill indeed, just in itself, and one that we all need to learn somewhat as part of what I call "energy work".

But getting back to privacy, if someone doesn't want you to be able to "read" them, they may create a barrier intended to stop you from doing so. Then you may have to work very hard to even begin to get through it. People instinctively know how to do this, and also how to drop any such barriers. We call this "being open", and it's what we do with our friends.

In my childhood, for various reasons I found it advisable to quite often "be invisible". Before being born I had chosen parents who could teach me about disharmony. So I entered this physical world to find two parents who were somewhat at war with each other, and only staying together for the sake of their kids. Plus I had an older brother who was in some ways a casualty from that conflict. By contrast, pre-school and primary school seemed such friendly places to me that it took me several years to understand the need to put up certain types of temporary walls or boundaries in certain situations there. In particular, although I was unusually tall at that age, for a time I got bullied because I wasn't interested in fighting back, and also because I was often perceived as a favorite of my teachers.

Telepathy is only one way of moving into greater oneness (at least, with another individual). As I've said, the fullest, truest knowledge seems to come through taking up temporary identity with, rather like using the "=" sign in mathematics. Now we're going a step or two deeper than any telepathy. But it's how the soul, the HM, knows anything. It's the gateway, the magic key, to all the higher planes. I've met (rare) people who claimed they could walk through solid (physical) walls, and I had no reason to doubt them. And I know a central part of their technique was to somehow "be one with the molecules of the wall".

[TraineeHuman]

One thing that's characterised all of my OB experiences -- whether through meditation or astral/mental projection or Nature or whatever -- has been a strong sense of greater intimacy with everything else, and everyone else. I guess that's how greater connectedness feels. Greater "being at one with". In a way it's spooky, but it also has a delightful side. Although it can feel slightly spooky, I guess that's because it's different from we're "normally" used to.

There's still a sense of oneself there in that intimacy. A sense of taking a unique slant on things. In this way, through all the connectedness there's also a reflection of one's connected self, to oneself. You could say that reflection is a bit like something coming from a high-powered lens or magnifying glass. You can choose to ignore it, but that spotlight on you is always there, that's for sure.

Eventually, on "the path", you find it's advisable not to ignore this. That soon means giving your support to a constant self-watching -- even (lightly, continually) in your everyday life, but also throughout much of any OB or supra-physical experiences. And that very watching actually keeps slowly dissolving away parts of the 'self" you had thought you were.

There are all sorts of treasures to be found in your Higher Self/Mind. But through self-watching you uncover the falseness in your everyday self -- which may be not what everyone wants to look at. Somehow or other, though, you have to get to the point where you admit that you've been a habitual liar all your adult life. Lying, exaggerating, focusing on "blaming" someone else for whatever area you subconsciously know that you, and not they, have a weakness in. You have to see and thoroughly know your shadow self.

You absolutely have to learn how to watch your everyday self without any judging. Like a scientist looking at the results of an experiment. Except, when you're watching your everyday self the results of that "experiment" are usually surprising. Very surprising. If you can laugh at yourself, at the junk your everyday self initially and for some time just keeps coming up with, on and on, that's great. That's being the observer -- of your everyday level.

For decades I used to greatly regret that my astrological chart has two ruling planets (and that's doubly so -- not only of my mid-heaven but also of my sun sign and rising sign). One of these is Neptune, the planet of Source, the ruler of true mysticism/spirituality and of true love and so on. All the highest things, if it's in its positive aspect. That ruler I liked. The other ruler of my chart, though, is Saturn, the planet of utter practicality. This is the planet of observation of the facts, including how a scientist goes about doing things. How I hated having this dour, sombre, serious planet co-ruling my everyday consciousness in this incarnation. How I hated when people would ask me if I was some kind of scientist. Admittedly, that wasn't so bad, because for every one person who did that there would be about two who wondered if I was some kind of creative artist, or who commented (usually favorably) about my "wild" imagination, but I knew they were thinking "wild equals good".

So, how can we find a truly satisying compromise between Spirit and Matter? We can't, because a compromise always involves a kind of backing down on both sides. So we need something more -- some kind of utmost intimate oneness joining the two. Only then can our inner life and our outer existence as individuals be satisfactorily reconciled.

Actually, we don't really find that in the Higher Mind, not fully. We only find it in total union with Source. There the Many and the One are in many ways the same thing. There individuality -- such as it is at that level -- involves being unable to ever lose the consciousness of its identity with all beings and also with Being itself, well beyond all time and space.

And it wasn't until I realized that the highest spirituality is also practical, that I thanked my stars that I have both those astrological rulers. That the ultimate of all that lovely and lovable Piscean transcendence into the highest ultimately gets trumped by descension, by the need to continually bring it all down into the physical and everyday ratty world, as much as one possibly can, and ever more and more fully. (Eek!)

This takes us back to self-watching and being honest about our junk. But we need that transcendence all the time too, for balance. It's only from a transcendent position, paradoxically, that we can see our everyday selves as how we truly are, see both the false and the noble sides and how the noble part can break through and triumph.

As Julian of Norwich said, the end of all our exploration will be to return to where we started, and know the place (and who/what we are) for the first time.

[TraineeHuman]

Teka (Highwhistller) has sent me a PM in which she admires the simple explanation of what consciousness is offered by one of the very top remote viewers in the world. Here's the short video in which he gives an explanation of how he sees consciousness:

http://youtu.be/19ZHOSU1_iw

My apologies if it's already been posted on the Forum in discussions of the Farsight Institute's RV project regarding 911. But what Teka found particularly interesting was what he said regarding consciousness.

Part of my take on consciousness is as follows. In this thread we have been considering the truth of supra-physical experience,which proves that there are indeed (many) higher worlds, higher planes of reality, which do exercise their influence on us in the world of our physical existence. People talk of laws of manifestation, and all sorts of such things.

But these higher worlds/planes are themselves just ways of seeing, just as our physical senses are just receiving instruments,kind of like how radios and TVs and cell phones are. And what is it that our physical senses, and all our higher "senses" receive? Consciousness, ultimately, and nothing else. They both receive it, and they receive through it too.

Consciousness in itself is beyond time and space and beyond definition. Consciousness is what makes time and space, among many other things, even possible.

Pure consciousness itself has states, though. Some of these are higher than others. Some are quite unknowable to the ordinary mind and senses -- not just unknown. And yet, we can know them, but only by truly becoming cosmic consciousness -- at least for sublime moments. I believe that's what "enlightenment" is all about at its lowest level.

But wait, there's more. Beyond all that again there's the infinite (many infinities). The miracle, though, is that even consciousness from this level in some ways connects into our limited finite world.

There's a heck of a lot more I can say about consciousness. This is just scratching the surface. It's not an easy topic to describe, though.

[Highwhistler]

This brief glossary is not about science. This is only an attempt to translate into words, my direct, subjective, continual, repeatable, first-hand experiences regarding the anatomy of the psychic-spiritual universe experienced in ordinary, everyday, full meditative awareness. You are welcome to have your own experiences that probably will be totally different than mine, to proclaim your own conclusions! -- and also to be neutral and to not arrive at any conclusions. I certainly feel that all of your experiences and ideas are equal to mine.


INTRO TO GLOSSARY —
4 CENTER-MOST IDEAS:
CREATION, CONSCIOUSNESS,
PRESENCE & ATTENTION
Part of a series of my essays titled "A MEDITATOR'S MULTIVERSE."


CREATION

Creation is everything in the so-called "physical universe" as well as all dimensions and other Universes, including all the inner universes of individual and collective thoughts, feelings, dreams, memories, imagination, inner movies, energies & psychic impulses ever experienced in the past, present ... as well as their potentials for expression in the future.

Creation is experienced by Presence through the consciousness that floats within and through it.


CONSCIOUSNESS

Consciousness is a media of expression for Creation.

At this point in time, consciousness is the main media of expression for Creation that is knowingly experienced by human Presences on Earth.


PRESENCE

You: the entity reading these words ... you are a Presence.

You-me-all of us ... we are non-physical, atmospheric, alive and spiritual Presences. We are part of Creation. Our Presences inhabit individual physical bodies, but also hovers throughout Creation. These are qualities and expressions of our most fundamental natures.

Symbolically speaking: only .001% of Presence makes an appearance in physical worlds. The true home of Presence and its dominant existence are in nonphysical quantum realms.

The Presence is like an absolutely clear cloud that is alive and awake, that lives within individual physical bodies -- it hovers around an individual's physical body -- but most of the Presence extends to the farthest realms of Creation, and throughout the quantum universe.

Universal consciousness floats through the Presence. Consciousness allows the Presence to be aware of Creation.

It is worth repeating again: You ... the entity reading these words ... you are a non-physical, atmospheric, spiritual Presence.

Presence has 3 focus areas: The Single Grand Presence, Presence Collectives, and Individualized Presence.

Most people think they are just an Individualized Presence ... but in truth they are all three. Many are clueless that we, at this point in time, are also The Single Grand Presence as well as Presence Collectives, simultaneously ... and all exist within our direct, first-hand, ongoing human experience, with the greatest of ease.

It appears to this mediator that the Presence has the potential and natural ability to travel from life-time to life-time, dimensions-to-dimension, universe-to-universe ... and ultimately: it is immortal. Again: this is only an "appearance" to me -- an intuition -- and I will let you know if and when my repeatable first-hand experiences, perspectives and beliefs change and are updated.

In the most fundamental sense ... you are me, and I am you.


ATTENTION

The attention is a non-physical organ that is attached to your Presence, or you might say is a part of your Presence. It allows the Presence to focus and experience the topics and consciousness that it's interested in.

Once again: universal consciousness floats within the quantum field-based being known as the Presence; and the Presence uses the attention to summon specific topics and realms of consciousness to appear before it, so that the Presence can experience the ideas, feelings, memories, energies, pulsations, perceptions, imaginative movies and visual qualities that are part of the thing or topic that it's interested in. (Remember: consciousness is a media of expression for Creation).

Please note that your Presence appears outwardly in the so-called "physical world" ... but it also appears in your thoughts, memories, feelings, imagination and psychic impulses throughout the vast inner universes that you experience. And you, the Presence, uses the attention to focus on things in the physical world, as well as "things" in the vast inner psychic ecosystem.