Strange Computer Code Discovered Concealed In Superstring Equations (Do we live in a Matrix?)

[TargeT]

Yes, we've seen this topic floating around, but really, if you try to; you can pull together some nearly conclusive proof that we are in an artificial reality.

"Doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block code," first invented by Claude Shannon in the 1940's, has been discovered embedded WITHIN the equations of superstring theory!

Why does nature have this? What errors does it need to correct? What is an 'error' for nature? More importantly what is the explanation for this freakish discovery? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Joe Rogan & NASA Physicist: We're Living in the Matrix

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MOBT-TVAhM4

Joe Rogan, simulation theory, computer code, quantum physics, Duncan Trussell, Tom Campbell, Thomas Campbell, matrix, James Gates Jr., Neil DeGrasse Tyson, digital universe, multiverse, information, holographic universe, Chris Delamo

[Brakeman]

Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

[TargeT]

Posted by Brakeman (here)
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.

[Operator]

Computer code should reflect a model of real life in order to 'work' ...
So, perhaps not so surprising if it also works in the other direction

[sirdipswitch]

Y'all gonna laugh, when ya find out who we really are,

and the game we play with... ourselves. ccc.

[donk]

Cool thread, it is why I thought the StarGate Universe series was neat…the reality there is that the Atlanteans sent out a ship (the Destiny) a bazillion years ago whenever they existed to experience the universe, seeking out the meaning of the “background radiation” that seemed to be a pattern/intelligent design.

[Pam]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Brakeman (here)
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.

Thanks for this wonderful thread. I agree with your theory TargeT. I often wonder if the Parallel Universe concept is actually the same game but each parallel universe is the vantage point of each "splinter" of consciousness. Each would be separate and yet interactive at the same time. I find this info fascinating at the intellectual level but I also have this really strong intuitive feeling that we are in this matrix like game.

[Agape]

It's an interesting idea but I don't think it means exactly that we live in simulated reality unless we are able to reconstruct such a virtual reality by our means .

If you look closely to anything from abstract maths to physical laws , we are not creating these things, these 'matrix fractions' or 'pixels' , we are merely drafting them , rediscovering what's always been there, the way that energy is related to matter and what way are both of them related to us .
The 'laws' = 'the matrix' are holistic phenomenon ..in reality ..or 'in nature' if you wish , they don't exist as bunch of separate equations ,
in reality they are all one .

It's our mind ( thinking process ) at the moment that is fragmented and keeps breaking the 'reality matrix' to individual fractions for simplicity and to be able to solve 'individual laws' while at the same time,
any hidden law we establish here is an approximation .. and secondly, it's a law with both ends open . It means it contains two unknown values ( at least ) that are part of another equations and laws . And so forth.

They are approximations for the same reason perhaps , the same way as when you are trying to use the same ruler to take measure of size of rocks .
The ruler is 'constant approximation' . The nature contains some of the most complicated measures and relationships within itself in the meantime .

And where is the process all contained ? In us, definitely , we are running simulations in our 'brains' and all living intelligence works on simulating the surrounding environment all the time , if only to be able adjust to it .

What happens is that the surrounding reality sends us feedback to whatever simulation we run and keeps correcting our inaccuracy and discrepancies .
We have to interact with the 'reality matrix' via our consciousness and intelligence and through the same gate we receive feedback .

I'm surprised , sometimes .. when even some of those people like physicists or biologists etc . remain unaware of the fact that we keep merely discovering reality as it stands , we are not creating laws , chemical reactions that the Universe would not have created long before us . What a surprise we keep hitting the walls ?

[TargeT]

Posted by peterpam (here)
Thanks for this wonderful thread. I agree with your theory TargeT. I often wonder if the Parallel Universe concept is actually the same game but each parallel universe is the vantage point of each "splinter" of consciousness. Each would be separate and yet interactive at the same time. I find this info fascinating at the intellectual level but I also have this really strong intuitive feeling that we are in this matrix like game.

absolutely, we are all, with in our own perception based existence experiencing a unique "reality"; if you only count humans (I don't) that's at least 8 billion (rough guesstimate) separate "universes" based on the perception of each individual. I think the perception of a rock is another reality, and that of the individual elements that make it up (ad infinitude....) this is probably why the vegan approach both confuses and amuses me (though I try my best not to disturb the perception based reality of my fellow experiencers; sometimes its hard not to & probably by design, since we need to interact with each other for this game to work as intended).

I'd take it further (and this is mostly evidence free intuition, which I'm not always the biggest fan of): Each of these separate experiences is "custom" designed for this expression of our consciousness (I'd say ego here, but I think that is just a tool, a set of programs to help re-enforce the "individual-ness" of our existence... we apparently need constant reminding of "me" for it to stay effective). We have a set of lessons or experiences that we go through to learn more about ourselves (why else would we desire to objectively experience our selves?) and every experience is entirely valid.

Now I am aware of the implications of this, does this mean that mass murder is valid? does this mean that child rape and sacrifice is valid?

What are this theories implications on morality?

Can you treat your self immorally?

Do we need these experiences so that we can reject them (as clearly the vast majority do)? (an experience not fully explored is an experience not fully understood).

Could this be the reason why the "Psychopaths/Sociopaths" exists? Who else would do these things we find distasteful & how would we define our boundaries and limits with out pushing past them to see where the edge is?

Another interesting thought: clearly we strive to do this (experience reality from a frame outside of our own), any game, but especially computer games are basically the exact same thing as I am talking about here... a simulated world that we go to to experience things that we couldn't experience in our original form, I assume this is why "gaming" is such a HUGE industry, it taps into a fundamental desire (and fractally it makes sense that we would create more simulations inside of a simulation that is fractal/holographic).

I like this idea because it gives me an anchor from which to alter my perception of events in my particular universe, and since perception IS the master of our reality, it seems that becoming flexible in your perception of events is a very empowering skill to have.

[TargeT]

Posted by Agape (here)
It's an interesting idea but I don't think it means exactly that we live in simulated reality unless we are able to reconstruct such a virtual reality by our means .

Well I'm not so much defining the nature of the simulation (matrix, virtual reality, what have you...), I'm not saying it's running on a computer somewhere (though I suppose that is possible? I guess it depends on how you define computer) I guess it's more of a realization that our reality has a very defined set of rules, and "computers" that we are used to function off these same rules. That means that there is a design, there are specific elements, there is a quantifiable framework and "rule" set out there and we mirror it with what we do on computers and simulations. Again, fractally this makes a lot of sense.

Posted by Agape (here)
If you look closely to anything from abstract maths to physical laws , we are not creating these things, these 'matrix fractions' or 'pixels' , we are merely drafting them , rediscovering what's always been there, the way that energy is related to matter and what way are both of them related to us .
The 'laws' = 'the matrix' are holistic phenomenon ..in reality ..or 'in nature' if you wish , they don't exist as bunch of separate equations ,
in reality they are all one .

But from the inside of a simulation, wouldn't these things "seem" holistic?

Posted by Agape (here)
And where is the process all contained ? In us, definitely , we are running simulations in our 'brains' and all living intelligence works on simulating the surrounding environment all the time , if only to be able adjust to it .

This is semantics really, and I don't mean to detract from your point (I agree with the concept of it) but I don't think the important stuff happens "inside our brains" I'm pretty convinced we are just an antenna for consciousness, much like an avatar in a game is the conduit of the player, and this appears to be corroborated in quite a few studies.

Posted by Agape (here)
I'm surprised , sometimes .. when even some of those people like physicists or biologists etc . remain unaware of the fact that we keep merely discovering reality as it stands , we are not creating laws , chemical reactions that the Universe would not have created long before us . What a surprise we keep hitting the walls ?

Yes, there is a problem when you become too focused on the details and exclude the rest of the system... Everything should be considered as a part of a system or "the" system/matrix/reality/nature what ever you choose to label it.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Nice thread, very cool and interesting stuff, reminds me very much of my iboga experience, I saw the individual particles that up my 3 d meat suit as grains of sand and could create and make myself fall apart, with a single thought, the fun part was, I fell apart in no particular order, but the recreating started in a very particular order ( from the inside out, structural integrity first, all the rest followed as it had something to hang on to, it IS supposed to be that way, it is the law, or the code if you will). Consequently, these days everything I see, read, hear cant hold a candle to that experience and what it taught me, deconstructing ones self to the core is a very valuable lesson.

Btw, Joe Rogan usually impresses me, he is a very smart dude, he gets it but is never afraid to call himself an insignificant idiot, this gives the man high value, him being a fighter and challenging himself every day to go face to face with his own possible physical destruction means a lot more to then the opinions of armchair theorists and know-it-alls. I consider him to be a deep soul diver who knows what tools to use to arrive at a destination with light speed and see for him self what's up. Experience beats bullsh!t every time.

[TargeT]

Posted by 778 neighbour of some guy (here)
Nice thread, very cool and interesting stuff, reminds me very much of my iboga experience, I saw the individual particles that up my 3 d meat suit as grains of sand and could create and make myself fall apart, with a single thought, the fun part was, I fell apart in no particular order, but the recreating started in a very particular order ( from the inside out, structural integrity first, all the rest followed as it had something to hang on to, it IS supposed to be that way, it is the law, or the code if you will). Consequently, these days everything I see, read, hear cant hold a candle to that experience and what it taught me, deconstructing ones self to the core is a very valuable lesson.

I've heard some great stuff about Iboga and would like to explore it, currently I am looking into the San Pedro cacti and traditions that surround it... if you have some time listen to this experience:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x-cZehoKj5w

Published on May 11, 2014

Aubrey Marcus is writer, entrepreneur, and adventurer. Some of his writings and experiences can be found on his website, WarriorPoet.us, as well as links to his latest venture, Onnit Labs

it literally brought me to tears when he talked about his experience with his dead relative (even the memory of it now gets me a little "misty"; and I'm the least emotional person I know).

Posted by 778 neighbour of some guy (here)
Btw, Joe Rogan usually impresses me, he is a very smart dude, he gets it but is never afraid to call himself an insignificant idiot, this gives the man high value, him being a fighter and challenging himself every day to go face to face with his own possible physical destruction means a lot more to then the opinions of armchair theorists and know-it-alls. I consider him to be a deep soul diver who knows what tools to use to arrive at a destination with light speed and see for him self what's up. Experience beats bullsh!t every time.

Oh yes, I've been listening to Joe's pod casts (most of them) for a while now(almost a year). I'm fortunate that I work an IT job and can have it running in the background and absorb the 3 hour blocks of fascinating conversation; Joe is an exemplary "human" though he still has a few failings (which I like even more! I'd not deify him, nor should anyone.. he's human and his perception is based on his environment; which makes his current mental state even more impressive(given his "Hollywood" environment)).



I would love to do a JRE-like podcast myself (I think I have a few skill sets that would naturally lend to the format), but then I'd also like to become a Shaman (which I also think I have a few beneficial skill sets) but I'm hesitant to take the responsibility of this type of teaching and educating. (which honestly, I also see as an indication that I probably should pursue something along those lines... I think I'm slowly psyching myself up for it).


Anyway, I highly suggest his podcasts, though I personally skip over quite a bit of the MMA stuff.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Joe is an exemplary "human" though he still has a few failings (which I like even more! I'd not deify him, nor should anyone.. he's human and his perception is based on his environment; which makes his current mental state even more impressive(given his "Hollywood" environment)).

Well his environment might even be helpful I think, he is very close to what NOT to become and that could be his whole purpose of being there in the first place "keep your enemies closer", his personal failings, everyone has them, but at least he has the nerve to doubt himself in public ( loud) and the sincerity and authenticity of that is something that cannot be denied and I like it, deifying is the last thing he wants or needs I think, that floatation tank must have taught him a great deal as well, literally losing all of ones senses, besides presence of consciousness is mind boggling and very confronting 'wtf is it that's in this tank???'.

I would love to do a JRE-like podcast myself (I think I have a few skill sets that would naturally lend to the format), but then I'd also like to become a Shaman (which I also think I have a few beneficial skill sets) but I'm hesitant to take the responsibility of this type of teaching and educating. (which honestly, I also see as an indication that I probably should pursue something along those lines... I think I'm slowly psyching myself up for it).

You can be who ever you want to be man, your audience has the same responsibility for discernment as everyone else has, they lend their own weight they want or want to see or hear to your message, you are just another voice, all you have to hang on to is your own personal integrity when you share whatever it is you wish to share, from then on its out of your hands. ( take a good look around on this forum for example, people will run off with a lot of crap just because it fits their current perspective, talk to them next year and you'll get a completely different answer, grin).

Anyway, I highly suggest his podcasts, though I personally skip over quite a bit of the MMA stuff.

His Rickson Gracie interview was quite good actually. I listen to them too sometimes, the man is OK and uses a lot of discernment, "Joe Rogan questions everything" is not a bad series at all for example, not what most people on this forum want to hear, but its not a bad thing at all to want tangible evidence and use common sense and logic to get it. The guy is living the dream, created his own world and explores everything else on his own terms and within his means of understanding, takes responsibility for it and shares his personal interests and questions publicly, that is something to be admired, and he's not being stuck up about it either.

Apologies for dragging your thread of topic.

Aubrey did Ibogaine too btw, it can be intense but the lesson is worth it, if you can make sure you are not surrounded by people puking it will make the experience easier, ghehehe.

[johnf]

Anything that is created, that is as complex and as dynamic as the multiverse would need
something analogous to error trapping code, self monitoring loops, as well as security protocols, fire walls etc.
All living things have these things in some form or another.

Artificial, or natural might be arbitrary divisions.
But it certainly does seem to be created, self referencing, self organizing.
Another arbitrary division might be is it a trap or a ride?
Seeing it as a ride makes things simpler to most, but irregardless of the filter the multiverse is what we are doing.

John

[Brakeman]

This code is mirrored through nature.

Cells in the body have a code in which they "self destruct" to balance their environment.

Apoptosis.

60 billion cells in your body undergo apoptosis daily.

DNA is the conduit.

And a physical, measurable manifestation of the governing codes and equations that dictate the flesh of the universe.

[Agape]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Well I'm not so much defining the nature of the simulation (matrix, virtual reality, what have you...), I'm not saying it's running on a computer somewhere (though I suppose that is possible? I guess it depends on how you define computer) I guess it's more of a realization that our reality has a very defined set of rules, and "computers" that we are used to function off these same rules. That means that there is a design, there are specific elements, there is a quantifiable framework and "rule" set out there and we mirror it with what we do on computers and simulations. Again, fractally this makes a lot of sense.

Actually, yes , the way I see it also supports the idea that there is an intelligent design to the Universe ..however and especially in the case of the bigger, physical Universe - or Multiverse - the design is big enough for us to ever encompass fully and secondly - and this may not sound like a good news - it's a moving design .
It keeps reorganising itself , restructuring indefinitely in ways that leave many layers of itself in chaotic state which is basically also free state , permitting possibilities .

There is ( or should I say may be ) basic grid , like a crystalline or fractal structure to the way Universes are formed but at the same time ..there is vast amount of 'poorly organised' energy and matter that is 'free' to great deal and can become part of the design yet, in future .
I don't think it's easy to answer whether the Universe is Perfect because it may be perfect from its own inherent viewpoint and IF the extreme of the 'matrix theory' would be correct , by knowing its laws we would be able ( or are able ) to manipulate all sort of nature of physical reality
however , the question begs , would no one, even hypothetically , done so before this moment ?
Would they (not) keep record of what they've done or would they consider such knowledge too risky and if so , why at all ?

And unless .. the Universe IS conscious from deep within as some people suggest , as sort of 'Universal computer' able to correct its mistakes .. for here, again, we stand on the edge of presumption that even 'perfect computer' has number of glitches ,
unless the Universe is super-conscious in such manner .. what could allow us to think that we could , even potentially , reach a level of such super-intelligence,
one that created us in the first place ..

But from the inside of a simulation, wouldn't these things "seem" holistic?

Indeed . The reality of most intelligent life is that the sense of reality we experience while being 'part of the larger whole' makes us somehow 'peer shaped' , even if holistic .
I am more in favour of open systems and relativity , in this part of theoretical physics because what I saw and tried for concepts thought before through various cosmological systems , concepts to do with 'perfectly structured' Universe and perfectly cyclical space-time ended up usually ( over thousands of years of humanistic debate ) as either unprovable or close systems that could not make it further .

This is semantics really, and I don't mean to detract from your point (I agree with the concept of it) but I don't think the important stuff happens "inside our brains" I'm pretty convinced we are just an antenna for consciousness, much like an avatar in a game is the conduit of the player, and this appears to be corroborated in quite a few studies.

That may be also very correct but ..the point I was trying to make is that we actually simulate the quality of physical laws in learning process, as other kinds of intelligent organisms all do .

I don't mean only the brain as piece of computer or 'antenna' for higher consciousness , I am quite certain that complex and complicated mathematical processes are actually taking place in our 'brain and body system' and the 'extension' of our 'peer shaped' physical structure itself serves as antenna or antennas , as one of its functions, extensions of the neocortex supplying it with information and allowing it to learn by experiment .

For example .. young toddler who learns to walk - pretty fast from the horizontal baby state he/she has been in for couple of months can not walk 'straight' , out of sudden ,
he has to learn how to calculate gravity , weight , velocity of motion and so on.
It's not only his own evolution either allowing or not to stand straight and walk ,
the ability has to be tested .. though he knows nothing yet of Newton or Einstein , he learns to calculate distance and when ball you throw at him reaches the aim and when does it come back and where if thrown at wall .

Even adult monkey hanging from tree branches is capable of simple calculation and has to master it well , pretty fast .. but newborn baby does not know . And if you bring him up in environment without any branches to hold on , an empty room for example , and return him back too late in his life he/she would have much less motor skills than his tree grown peers .

Similarly , a child put to water early can learn to swim fast .. without necessarily understanding laws of physics , simply by adopting them .. and using its own internal processing to calculate the power of wave .. versus motion, weight and so on.

Top gymnasts who perform complicated acrobatic feats or dancers who are trained in swirls and jumps have to learn a lot about torsion fields and have testable greater spatial intelligence than average populace ..while most of them did not study maths or physics .

Physicist and mathematicians .. from the other end .. are sometimes also great philosophers because all abstract laws seem to play multiple sense to our understanding of the whole .

I don't think I've explained myself quite well yet ..later times .

[truth4me]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Y'all gonna laugh, when ya find out who we really are,

and the game we play with... ourselves. ccc.

Well who are we for I really want to know.....

[TargeT]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Joe Rogan & NASA Physicist: We're Living in the Matrix

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MOBT-TVAhM4

Joe Rogan, simulation theory, computer code, quantum physics, Duncan Trussell, Tom Campbell, Thomas Campbell, matrix, James Gates Jr., Neil DeGrasse Tyson, digital universe, multiverse, information, holographic universe, Chris Delamo

I like this one a lot, succinct enough to share with others that aren't innately interested in this topic, testing on the wife now.... I'm already aligned with the concepts in this video so it's nice to see the reaction of those that aren't.

[T Smith]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Brakeman (here)
Consciousness requires a protocol to validate itself.

this whole Idea lines up with my own theory of "reality".

The quick and dirty of my theory is this:

Its BORING to be omnipotent/omniscient, so we created "world of warcraft", a simulation that we could input our consciousness that is so convincing that we forget ourselves and get to experience reality through a 5(ish) sense limited "physical" reality. We get to objectively experience our consciousness as it is splintered into 8 billion humans, countless planets and stars, rocks dirt etc...

and yes, we would require a protocol to run all of this.

What I'm interested in now is this: we seem to be showing this to be true, at least in our theoretical physics & theoretical math equations.

Methinks you're on to something.... Which reminds me of the B-poem from the little-known and unsung philosopher Dooharvey Cantsabody:

A bushel of oranges once said
How we wish we were dead!
Isn't there any more like us?
We're All There Is
Why even fuss?

So the oranges hemmed and hawed
And searched the trees
Prayed to God, got on their knees
Oh Lord, can't there be Something More?
Groves of oranges we implore!

Well... just one more orange?
We humbly peep
To throw upon our modest heap?

When no answer came from God Within
As they realized Yang was really Yin
They came upon the only cure
That which rendered infinity pure

Faith...we'll have in One More Orange
Faith...we'll have in Something More

Woe O Oranges!
Reality Be:
We're All There Is!
Faith, dear friends, is Something More!
Yin and Yang live next door

Ah! Then despite knowing the painful lore
Faith we'll have in one more orange!
Then we may fuss, then we may say
We're not All There Is!
There's Something More across the way!

And then to All's surprise
Amid the fuss of Something More
They came... upon... one...more....orange!
In spite of the painful lore!
(And Yin and Yang, who lived next door!)

Alas! There's one more orange upon our heap!
All There Is and Something More!
Yin and Yang live next door!

Faith restored!
Nary a ruse!
One More Orange!
We paid our dues!

And the bushel of oranges
Sang and danced
And came upon a new romance
Until one cleaver young orange declared
Why, nothing's changed!
We're still All There Is!
Just re-arranged!

Isn't there anymore like us?

Alas...We're All There Is...
Why even fuss?

Reality Be All There Is
Faith is Something More
And Yin and Yang, who live next door....

[guayabal]

I tend to think that chaos (randomness) is a lie, it is just not really possible, it doesn't exist. All information is just a reflection of how the universe is (highly and beautifully) ordered. We do not live in a simulation. The world simulation is just a trick to keep the lie alive, we live in the real thing.